EP 300: Epic 300 with Cheston Davis and Jason Bairett from PhoneSkope

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Hey everybody, Jason Carter, Adam Bronson coming at you from southern Utah here in Cedar City. Bronson, we woke up to six inches of snow. How about that? Nice to finally shovel something. No, it's not nice to shovel. So, if you're going to grow something this year, you better shovel snow. Hey, I got out the skid steer. We're freaking cranking here at Epic. But anyway, pretty awesome. We're kind of cranking through some applications, doing a lot of strategies for people, and talking about states, species of all varieties. Big game, of course. We don't really care about small game, do we? Some states call a lion small game, and I kind of care that they're dead. You know what I mean? But anyway, it's been fun. It's a new year, new slates, new plants. You can officially forget it all. Over 2023. 2020, when was that? I'm not even thinking about it. New slate. We're all batting 1,000 again.

I had a lot of tags in 2023. It's not going to happen again, Bronson, one way or another. Does that mean? Fill them freezers. You're going to? Hashtag. Really? Fill them freezers. Yep. I can't wait to see that. Clean. I'll believe it when I see it. Protein. I'm going to fishize some small bucks and make them look big. Bronson, you wait. You're going to kill some stuff. I can't wait. Anyway. Mark this down. What podcast is this? Is this 300, 201? This is numero 300. This is 300. Okay. It's going to be easy to find. We have the man, the myth, the legend, freaking Cheston from Phone Scope on 300. Let's make this 301, Bronson. Let's do a good one. Hey, come on. No, I just 300 is an easy one to remember when we have to go back to Paul Carter's audio about him filling freezers, punching tags. Punching tags like it's my job. Unless it's a doe tag or a cow tag. I've never killed a female.

I don't know if I can do that. You probably won't be against it. If it's proper management, I'm fine with it, but I don't want to do it. We're going to hold you to the fire. You're going to shoot. We're going to talk you into shooting something. Hey, I killed a bite, though. Well, that was 194-inch. That's a pretty easy shoot. Plus or minus, you know. Yeah. Anyway, I can't believe here we got Cheston in the house. Cheston and Jason, Phone Scope. Welcome, fellas. I can't believe you're on podcast number 300. This better be a good podcast. You know, I feel pretty privileged. Not going to lie. Well. Just saying. 300, congrats to you guys. Well, we were going to do. Yeah, it's been a minute. We were going to dig up some. We did for 200, we did like 10 or 15, 200 mule deer interviews with guys that killed them. It's just kind of cool. Talked about stories of killing them, all that. 300.

We couldn't do 300-inch bulls. That's pretty anti-climatic. And then 300-inch deer, there was like two. Like one or three. Or two living people. Yeah. And we still should have them on the podcast. So we couldn't think of any other significant number that 300, you know. Kind of crazy. Deer. You know what? Caribou? That's not a very big caribou. 300. 300. I don't know what else would be. So there, it's kind of anti-climatic. Well, except for Cheston's here. Yeah. Yeah, we're here. We're going to talk on 300 for some. We'll have to do some kind of giveaway. New model 300. There we go. Something. Yep. The demo model. Yep. We're talking about. Well, we've seen. With new years, new plans, new products. Freaking Cheston, you've innovated the digiscoping world. Clear back when? When? 2010, 2011. Was there anybody doing it? Or were we all just? PVC. All made PVC stuff.

Adam and I, we were just holding our phones up and, you know, shaky footage and showing clients and ourselves and each other. And that's about what we did. Yeah. You know, you're dead on the money. And it's funny because I think back to those days. I remember calling Carter and I says, hey, I need a favor. My dad gave me so much money to start this company and I have none left. If I send you one of these, will you take some pictures, post on the internet and help me sell some? He's like. Start talking about it. Yeah. Tell me what it is. And I show him. He's like, yeah, I'll use that. I went over to his house. We played outside. Yeah, I'll use it. Played. Well, he acts like we played the sandbox. Yeah, we threw. We were the sandbox. In 2010, let's see, that would have been 35 years old. How about that? You're a grown man. How old were you, Justin? 25. I would have been, yeah, 25. Really?

Wow. Well. Plus or minus. Now I got to start doing some math. Doing math. Yeah. Well, just tell me. Without a calculator. Yeah. So 10 years. You're in the 80s, baby. No, I'm 35 right now. So 10 years old. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Jeez. 25 years old. 22 then. 22, 21. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're talking way long ago. 2010. I was thinking 10 years. 2010. So anyway, yeah. So 13, 14, 13 years ago. We started filming stuff.

The thing, phones have come so far. You can actually take professional photography. Did you have a flip phone there? Was it something you had? I wasn't at that meeting. Was it on a camera or was it on a? No, we had solid. We didn't have flips. It was an iPhone 4. Right when iPhone 4. Cheston, do you really remember that? How good is your memory? Do you remember? I do. It was a Sunday afternoon. It was a Sunday afternoon. Well, you lived down here then, right? Yeah. Yeah. I just lived down around the corner. I shouldn't be working on Sundays, but go ahead. We were. We were hanging out. You were playing. We were playing in the sandbox. Yeah, we were playing in the sandbox. Okay. And yeah, iPhone 4. Yeah. Wow. I know that because that was the only phone case I had. Probably had. So I know we didn't have anything else. Eight gig memory or something dumb. Yeah. 16. 16. Anyway. Yeah.

So we took. So we were taking. It made us to where you could actually grab video and photos and whatever of game. And it looked good. A steady. It actually looked good. It improved what you saw. A steady image. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It changed the world. It really was revolutionary. I mean, there's a few products in life that you can say this changed the hunting world. Well, it was one of. Onyx. Well, it was one of those that you. When you see it, you're like. Why didn't I do that? Yeah. Why didn't I do that? I always. How many people have told you that over the last 13 years? I've had a lot. And my response is as I shake their hand is I'm glad you didn't. I'm just being. I'm an honest guy. It's true. Because we were all fighting with it. We were all doing this thing, you know, that. It revolutionized the hunting world. It did. And everything, right? All aspects of life.

You know, being able to. Birding. Birding. I mean, Cheston's got a car with birding stuff on it. Cheston. How do you? The greenies are supporting Cheston. Birders. You know, recreation matter too. I know. Hey, at the end of the day, if they've got a dollar and they need something. You are. We're going to help them. You're there to serve. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to help them. It's awesome. You guys. And hey, you know, guys from Beaver County. You know, my roots are from Beaver County. We're pretty innovative guys. I'm the only one in this room that is not from Beaver County. Even Logan. Even Logan. I'm the only one. Minersville sandwiches and whatever else he innovates. Hey, let's even dial it down even closer. All of our roots come from Minersville. Yeah. Yeah. Let's even get. What's the population of Minersville? The promised land. 900-ish right now? Yeah. Yeah. 900.

Has it always been 900? Have you always said 900 for 25 years of your life? So there for a little while, I was saying it's about 1,000. And then people were yelling at me. They're like, it's not that big. And so I had to dial it back to 800. And then if y'all go to the county fairgrounds on July 4th or something, it's half probably. Yeah. I don't know. You know what I mean? When there's a mass exodus out of town. Well, I feel like I'm the third wheel or the fifth wheel in here with all you Beaver Countyites. I'm from San Juan County. Just hold on to your wallet. We got innovative. Trust me. I've got it right here. Oh, there's a new product. So, Cheston, here we are. 2024. We talked about the innovation here in the hunting world. You revolutionized phone scoping. Now, it's kind of, there's some other companies out doing that kind of thing. You know, that's a natural.

You got to expect that. And so you got to stay on top of your game. And I know you got some new products coming out. But it's pretty cool to know where you came from. And you're still here. Here we are. 2024. 2024, you and I and Adam now and Jason and Logan are all in a sandbox having a good time. That's right. You know what I mean? So, anyway, what, I don't want to say where's your future going because, dude, you never quit thinking. Your family, brother, dad, whoever, everybody's always thinking and doing. But new products and whatnot, I guess we'll kind of give you the mic for a minute. And you can kind of tell us kind of where you've been. But then, like, where are you going with all this? No. So, you know, one thing I love is I love hearing problems and how to solve them.

And so one thing we've heard over the years and another thing and another thing is how to make our product a little better. And so there's a lot of products that we've created and shelved because they may solve one problem but create another or create two problems. And so just because there's not something new always coming out doesn't mean we're not continuing to innovate. And we'll never release something if we don't believe that it's going to actually fill a void or create a solution. So what we've got here is our new Carbon Pro Series. And as you can see, I've got some carbon plates that you guys can go ahead and play with and you can feel how tough they are. Oh, yeah. We know that. First time you boys have ever seen those. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Yeah. The first fingerprints that have been on these. Yeah. Outside of the shop. Outside of the shop. Yep. Nope.

Logan's been bugging me a little bit to come over and do a podcast. And I says, listen, let's just wait. I've got a perfect time. Little did I know it was going to be 300. Yeah. Or I mean. We're launching the phone scope 300. Yeah. I mean. That's what we're launching. Yeah. Model 300. Model 300. Can we name it? The Epic Edition 300 Pro. Is it already named or can we name it? We like naming stuff after ourselves. You said something pro. What did you call it? It's the Carbon Pro Series. But I'm thinking this. So it's going to come out basically in a stealth black. So it's going to be a black aluminum frame with the black carbon fiber backbone. And then it's going to have black buttons. Fully blacked out. I think when you do a 300 Epic Edition one day, it's going to have a colored frame of your choice, whether it's tan or olive green. Cool.

So that's something we're going to play with down the road. And we'll launch when we see fit. And you can color carbon? Yeah. We can do different strands there. Or we can also do, through our Cerro Co. company, we can do the sponge. So you know how like on the rifle stocks, we'll do like the sponge Cerro Co. So we can do something along there and then have maybe the epic logo popping through. Do what you like, Carter. Yeah. You do you. I'll do me. That's right. Well, we don't want to get too colorful here. Well, I mean. I don't know who's going to go with pink and purple. I'll do rainbow. Orange and black. Carter likes. All colors are the rainbow. I like orange and black. Come on. I like. Orange and black is a good looking color on carbon. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. It is. So what we did is, yeah, you've got an aluminum frame. We've got basically shock absorbing corners.

And then one of the coolest things we've had everybody tell us is they hate the dirt getting in their power button. Or in their power cord where it plugs in. I agree. So we created a plug that basically plugs it off so nothing can get in there, including moisture. So that way when you're out in the moisture and you go to plug it in and it's like you've got to wait for it to dry out. Problem solved. Lightweight, but it's super thin, as you can tell. Yeah. So generally, that's the old phone scope case right there. And this is always, I mean, year round we're throwing these. I don't know. This is a giant. What do they call this? The plus? Pro Max. Pro Max. These are both the same phone. Feel the difference. That's the same phone. The same phone. You get that scale in here. Yeah. Anyway, the old one, I mean, it was awesome, right? And it did have, I always liked these little cushions. Yeah.

On the old one, I felt like it was indestructible. Yeah. It felt like it protected it. But it was giant in my pocket. Yeah. It was giant. And then this little one, I totally, I get it. I like it. Slim. And this is one you would have on your, a phone case on your phone year round, regardless if your phone's scope or not. I mean, you'd put this on your wife, kids, whatever. 100%. Yeah. That's the other thing. You don't, you don't have to take them on and off when you go to the mountain or something. Because if one felt bulkier and all that, you felt like, yeah, I don't want that 24-7 when it's not hunting season. Exactly. This one's just a phone case. Yeah. No. 100%. We've got a, in the very top, you'll see this cut out. So that's basically going to be an antenna amplifier to help your antenna basically get more signal. Does it work? Have you tried it? By covering that out, you mean?

I've got full bars here, but yes. Did you test it? Yes. So our first ones was basically that cut out. And so we basically, everything that we could possibly do. You know what? So listen. You know what? That would hurt yourself. Do you think really that that's a, what do you mean? He wouldn't do that. I have a Wilson antenna. You think it'd compete? We should have brought, we should have brought Gen 1. Gen 1 doesn't have that. Yeah. And then that's how we got there. And then walk out, just keep walking into the canyon. So this is what, that's what, let me look at it again. So this is. Exposes the top of your. It exposes the top so you can get better reception. Instead of. It's where the phone antenna is. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, basically, moral of the story is we've been working on this for well over a year. And making a lot of different tweaks and all the above.

And here we are, ready to hit the trade show circuit, show it off, and get a bunch out there. But one of the biggest things we get a lot of people telling us is they want to be able to use their MagSafe accessories in their truck. And I've never used one because I've ran a phone scope case since 2010, 2011. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, well, what is it? And the second I started learning about it, I was like, oh, I got to have this. This is cool. And so I've been running this phone, this exact frame, for probably since early spring. I bet this one's probably early spring. Okay. Okay.

Anyways, as you can see, so this is your truck mount right here. Sticks right on. Now, the cool part about this. So, folks, I mean, people that are just listening. So we've got basically you've, I don't know whose truck you tore this out of, but basically we've got a vent. He should look in his truck. We've got a vent, right? And this vent has a little attachment that basically has a magnetic accessory. Everybody's phone holder for your truck goes on. Keep it a little bit more up high level instead of down. Yeah. And you can use it for, somebody mentioned Onyx Maps, right? So if you're driving off-road. It also has a USB-C plug-in. It's made out of an aluminum block. It's got super strong magnets. So we were out in the desert hunting. What's that animal that I hate? I don't really care to hunt. Oh, deer.

Mulder? Mulder. And we were out chasing mule deer. So I'm in my general. I was like, let's see what it takes to pop this thing off. Well, I'm doing 65 on a two-tracker, and it's not coming off. Yeah. I'm like, okay, that's fast enough. The cool part is, as you can also tell when you tighten this down, hear that breakaway. That basically lets you know it's snug. It's got a self-absorbing, almost like a silicone gel at the back, so that way it's dampening itself, and it won't back off. So let's explain this again, like verbally, because people are in their vehicles. I'm like, oh, I'm going to go to the back. True. The name of it and all. This is an attachment. Basically, this goes in your heater vent, and it's a magnet attachment that you would slap your phone on. We're not talking about a case.

We're not talking about phone scope accessory, other than this is a magnet where you would attach your phone. The phone scope case would attach to this magnet, and you could plug in your charging cord into this magnet that's attached to your heater vent. And when you slap your phone on it, it's charging, just like the trucks are now made down low. Just so your phone's a little bit, not eye level, like I said, but slightly below in your panel heater vent. So it's a little bit more. You can glance at it without looking down. And you can adjust it. So this thing also has a little ball on it, so you can put it all around, adjust it around and whatnot. So you sell that, even though it doesn't have necessarily anything to do with phone scoping, but it's a phone case attachment adapter.

Yep, and it's one that we basically took some other ones that were on the market and made it better, made it stronger. It's built out of billet aluminum right there, as you can tell on the sides. It's got a lot of magnets in there, but it's the MagSafe magnet, so it's really strong. And that was the thing is, is you can buy, you know, some cheap ones that the phone will fall off when you hit a bump. This one's... You've done some testing. So this will replace, like, the cup phone. You know how they have the cups that hold your phone? I've got one right now, and I've just... You know, that way you can run your mapping. I don't want to give anybody any, you know, free shout-outs, but let's just say Onyx or FaceMaps or GoHunt or whatever. Anyway. Google Maps. Google Maps. Okay, there you go, Bronson. Something generic. Anyway, this is pretty awesome. I'm going to see this in Walmart. Huh?

I took my chances on it. I played the Walmart game before and fired them once. That's a whole other podcast. All right. Well, anyway, this is pretty crazy. This is pretty awesome, really. What did you call that? What do you call that? What did you call it? Just the vent. I think it's the vent pro or something. So it's all part of the Carbon Pro series. Yeah, and so the cool part is we've got a bundle that you can buy all the stuff we're going to talk about. So we've got this carbon fiber wallet, right? So it sticks right on the back of your phone because, and I thought I would never use it. I always have my ID. Do you trust it? Oh, yeah. I've been running. I ran this through Disneyland, through baseball games, Major League Baseball parks. No. Let me see your wallet here. Speaking of purchasing stuff, we did do a promo code for this podcast. I did just have it changed to Epic 300.

Oh, you did? I like it.

We like it. What does that go? We'll talk about the details at the end about whether that's kid only. Yeah, we'll go over that because the only way to get that is for listening here because there is no discount on this. Nobody can get it except for these guys right here's podcast. I like it. We've got a cool wallet, right? And the pre-sale right now does come with a free wallet. So $20 value comes free. And you, I run that. I use a traditional wallet. So right here, so when we're talking wallet, we're talking, what do they call it? It's not a real wallet, but it's a wallet. It's a Gen Z wallet. How about that? That's right.

Everybody looks over there. I never had one until we created this, and I was like, okay, I'm going to try it because I don't trust it. First thing I said. Yeah. And I will never live without it now. It's just a, yeah, it's a simple little. Carter looks like he has his library card from Moab Elementary in there. Every card you've ever had. You know what? It's a thick sucker. Okay, you give me a hard time, but I am going to show you guys something. Blue cards and stuff. I am going to show you my original Hunter Ed card. I heard that. Okay. My original. This was done in 1986, and that's the original paper. Was you born yet? No, I was two more years after you were born. Two more years. I wasn't even conceived. Mine was at 85, and it looks just like that. So, yeah, you've got some documents there that, like, you probably don't need to carry on your purse in 365. I'm just saying.

Hey, Colorado had me jumpy until I had this verified situation going on. Anyway, this is a nice little, like, most people have two or three cards in there. You drive your license. Two or three cards, a couple of hundreds. A couple of hundreds and whatever. And you know why I started using that type of a wallet? It's not an open wallet that goes in your back pocket. It's your front pocket. It was when I started hunting Mexico. I wanted everything in my front pocket. If I have to walk back to the States, I got everything. You can't lose stuff in your front pocket. They're usually a little deeper sometimes. Yeah, so ever since then, I've been running with my front pocket in one of these. But anyway, this has got a magnet inside this wallet. Let's call it a wallet. It's very thin, very slim. I would say that's probably five credit cards deep or ten. Seven. I probably do three.

There's three in there right now. There's three in it, but I mean the entire depth of it. Oh, yeah. Super thin. It's thin and it's barely bigger than your credit card. It doesn't have a lot of wasted space. Barely bigger than a credit card. You'd slap it in there. You could go out on the town, vacation, doing whatever you're doing, but then it also attaches to your phone. Yep. Yep. So this would be for when you're going on vacation. Don't need those documents. Yeah. You're just taking what you're needing. Yeah, just take what you need. You don't need your Hunter Ed card going to California. Carter went from his house. He can't even take your gun across the state. Carter went from his house to work today and he's got a blue card. Hey, I've got my blue card. What else do you want to know? There's some stuff in here. I could tell it's way thicker than it used to be.

I could take you to lunch. That's as big as my old, my traditional wallet. Well, anyway. But we got a Gen Z wallet here. That's funny. With the magnets. Right on the back of your phone case. It's awesome. It doesn't really add too much bulk. No, no bulk, smooth, easy, and you've always got it. Because you never lose your phone. And it's free with the package, so you don't want it and you like your original wallet, whatever. Have your leather wallet that sits in your back pocket. You know another thing about the back pocket wallet? It's free. It can cause a sciatic problem. It does. Well, and you get that weird white, you know, wallet square etched into your pants. It's, you know, like a Copenhagen ring except for a wallet ring. You get that. Yeah. So, you know, it makes it hard to run and gun.

You've got a wallet in your back pocket and you've just got a lot of truck time, glassing, stopping, glassing, stopping, glassing. Oh, yeah. It gets you. All right. What else we got? Next thing. So, got an awesome image on there. Replica. Bull near and dear to your heart. Yeah. Triple bull I arrowed last year, you know. Triple brow. Triple brow, yeah. Jeez. Anyways, cool part is this is basically a MagSafe compatible battery charger. So, you basically just click it on. You're watching. Charge it. Boom. Wow. So, roughly how many charges? So, right now, in my pack right now, I have a brick. A brick. I have a brick with a big old long cord, you know. Anyway, but like Bronson, Bronson asked how many charges. What do you? So, it depends on the size of your phone, right? The smaller phone. So, it's a 5,000. This is a max, yes. This is a 5,000 milliamp one. Oh, yeah. That's a terminal.

Yeah, it's a lowercase m, a big case a, whatever. Right? LH, yeah. Look at him. He's not all smart. A unit of measure that I don't use. Well, I look at it, and I'm like, I'm in Walmart. Make it easy for me. The guy's carrying a paper blue card from 1986, but he knows what a milliamp is. I need them to know that I am safe in the field. Oh, that's funny. So, 5,000 milliamps, but that, the size of your phone, but have you taken this out on a hunt where you haven't recharged that for how many times you get three or four charges? So, I would always just tell everybody to be safe. You're going to at least get one charge on it. Right. So, that way, and then it's got a USB-C charger to where you can just plug it in, recharge it back up. Recharge it, whatever. Yep. And then you're ready to go again. Zero to 100. What's that? Yeah. Zero to 100. Zero to 100. The current phones are pretty legit.

You get two free charges. You can usually go a full day using heavy, heavy mapping. Oh, yeah. You know, on a decent phone. Yeah. It depends on if you're in cell service and have to leave it on or turn an airplane mode. Like you, down in precarious places in Arizona. That was an airplane mode. How often would you have to recharge your phone? Oh, yeah. I had an airplane mode because I wasn't trying to keep... Bronson was disappointed. He didn't download any podcasts. He had... His XM radio went out. I get up in the morning. So, just a little deviation, Cheston. We get that. We were all over the place. But, yeah. That's all right. I went down there to hunt coos deer. And I woke up and started driving. It's like 6 in the morning. And I've got like a 10-hour drive. Yeah. My Series XM. I have... You know, it's out. And my daughter was in town for Christmas.

So, she's borrowing my truck to run around and visit friends and stuff. And she's like loving the XM and all that. And I'm like, yeah, it's nice. I really can't live without it. Next day, I get to drive down there. And it's gone. But I'm actually selling the truck this Saturday. So, he's okay. So, I knew sometime it's going to expire. But not the day I go down there. But when you're down in the middle of nowhere and you don't have cell service, you can't listen to any podcasts, you don't have any XM radio. Bowl games, football bowl games. You're by yourself. It's dark at 5.30. Dark at 5.30. And it's late at 7.30. You've got 14 hours of darkness. And he's sleeping outside just in the bed of the truck pretty soon. He comes back and he's like, I'm not doing it by myself anymore. And I want to only go where there's cell service. Well, plus or minus. Plus or minus.

I need to be better prepared. Podcasts and don't let my series. I would have paid for a full month for those four days. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So really what happened when he got back is he had to see therapist Paul. Right? Oh, which is Logan's dad. Yeah. You know, we were doing a therapist little. We did something once. We did. And we were having him talk to us about some therapy ideas and giving the epic listeners some ideas. It might be a good idea to give therapy ideas for hunting widows when we're gone in the fall. Good point. When they need, when they're shouldering the load, kids. We could tell our wives. Hey, when I'm gone, I want you to download the epic podcast. There's going to be a few things that you need to listen to. Four kids in diapers. Getting them all to, you know, a couple of letters to school every day. And how do you cope with your husband? How do you cope?

30 days at a time. Is he a bad guy or not? All right. Well, let's see. Okay. So therapist Paul, has he ever done any therapy on you, Logan? I think my whole life was therapy. And I just have become a mean to it at this point. You didn't know what he was trying to do. You didn't turn out weird, did you? Well, you tell me. I don't know. I think you're all right. But I'm nervous about a shrinks kid, you know. You got to be. We're dangerous. All right. So, Cheston, you've got some more problems. We're going to go to another one. We're going to go to the Nemo. The Nemo. Right? Okay. What's that? This clamps around your tripod. Oh, dude. Okay. Now watch. So when I'm videoing and I'm done, instead of having to put my phone in and out of my pocket, I just snap it right here. Onto the leg of your tripod. Yeah. So now it's no longer in my pocket. Another magnetic thing.

And then all of a sudden I'm right back out. Boom. Right back to there. Done. Wow. This is probably going to be one of the biggest game changers for us because what happens when we're all out and we harvest an amazing animal? We want everybody in the photo. But it's hard. Well. It's another self-timer. You know. That self-timer. So we just ordered. Something like that. Right? So we just ordered these manual little things. And I used. And we put a little plate. I used. That's fine. I used. It was awesome. Justin's already short-cutting us. So look. You put that on your tripod. And it'll pivot like the other one, right? It's got a ball. And then you hit self-timer. No. Then you buy our Bluetooth shutter button. You put it in your pocket. John does that. And then you just click. Look. John's a little. Is this in the Epic 300 package? Why not? Right? John's a little bit. He has that.

John has the shutter button. You can sit there and actually smile and push the button instead of run and. Make it chaos. Yeah. And then you miss one person. Yeah. And you got to keep doing it. Then you got the 10 shot first. So back in the day, PhoneScope made that shutter button. It had a little white. The white battery. A white shutter button stuff. And you're still doing all that. Oh, yeah. It's still one of our number one sellers. I mean, we sell a ton of them. A lot of people love them. Any more we keep talking about with John. We're talking about point and shoot cameras today as the advancements in phones in the last even five years in terms of quality of of photos that we get in for the magazine and all that cover shot. Like I'm I'm not. John doesn't want us to say that. Well, he doesn't want you to. You should only take cover shots with a Nikon or whatever. You know what I mean?

But I take incredible pictures of my phone. And I didn't pack a point and shoot. This year is the first year I've never packed one. You probably even edited some of your own photos.

I have limitations. But anyway, but that's awesome. Yeah. And you can call it the Nemo partially. It was it was it was it was spelt demo, but it looks like an I thought it was the Nemo. It was a demo. OK, but you put it on there. And what happened to Nemo? He got lost. Well, your phone doesn't get lost. Oh, man. Listen to him. Jeez. Give him a pen and paper. You bet. It's kind of like naming a buck. You name someone name something. Ralph, like, how do you name him? Ralph and he has 14 generations of stories to get to the name. Why he named the buck. That's right. This is pretty simple. You don't lose your phone. It's a it's the Nemo. That's pretty good. I like it. I like it. OK, then the then the cool part. So the way that it attaches. Right. So you'll take it and you'll slide it up and it'll just lock into place using that mag safe. OK. So that's like you can't be off centered.

When you say lock in, it finds the the centered portion, whatever. And wow, you feel there's a visible tangible feel. Yep. Now, the cool part is, is every phone has three lenses nowadays. Right. Yeah. Now, the bonus is if you want to video further away, we we let you pick which lens you want to use. Right. So right now I'm on the one X. If I want to go to the three X. Which one's which one's that on? So that's on the very bottom. So now if I want to go to the very top one and if I'm already on my spotter, all I do is this. Oh, there you go. And yeah, done. We're getting high tech your car. So when would you want to do that? But you can only swap cameras with your app. Right. With a phone scope app. Depends. Now, if you're videoing using the iPhone camera, you can manipulate it to where if you as long as you just click on the three X or the one X, then it'll let you it'll pick the lens

for you. Yeah. But if you want to take your photos. We've been using your app and then you pick. Yeah. If you want to use the our phone scope app, you just basically pick the lens and away you go. Okay. Now, when you want to use different lenses. So if it's low light outside, you always want to be on one X. So you've got a bigger sensor. I've been videoing stuff and I don't even know all this. I just throw it on and it works. And we've had how many podcasts on this? Well, I have the other app and you have, well, do you have three or two? I don't think you have two. I probably don't. I only have two. See, that's part of the problem. So I'm good. See, when I got the, is this a few? Never change. I think you called me and said, hey, which phone to get. And me and Adam started laughing. I says, get the one with two lenses because we didn't want to complicate it. Zip will buy your life.

You know, for a guy that carries paper blue cards. I'm safe. Yeah, just stick with the basics. I can prove that I'm safe. I can prove it. You don't even have to go log into my Utah BWR account. I can prove I'm safe. I got it right here. He keeps pulling his wallet out for everybody that can't see this. We've seen it 12 times now. It's awesome. You were 11 years old because I know your age. You were 11 or 10 when you passed that. Yeah. Okay. Shot 20 out of 20. How safe could you have been? Hey, listen to this. I was a 10-year-old with a gun. I shot 20 out of 20 with a 22. The Winchester pump. Open sight? Open sight. Okay. Open sight. How many people have done that? That means you're accurate. It doesn't mean you're safe. Okay. It shot where I wanted it to shoot. Okay. All right. Keep going. So this is pretty awesome, Cheston. Yeah. Yeah.

You've got to see some of this, and I'm sure you either have already or you're about to release some of these on your website. Like I said, you're going to be at, I know you'll be at Western Hunting and all that, but to see some of this, the way you pulled that up to go from lens two to one to two, it's simple. There's not going into the app and doing anything like that. You just want to immediately do it. You do it. Yeah. No, and that's one of the biggest things that a lot of people, so you mentioned, you know, we've got, you know, a competitor or two out there, but we hold the patent to adjustable lenses to where it's critical to use the right lens at the right time. Because if you don't, you're going to end up starting zooming in and totally get that black circle to where you can't zoom anymore. So there's no reason to buy, you know, a Porsche and only be able to drive 60. Makes sense.

If you want to go fast, you got to have both lenses and be able to really reach out there and touch some. So that's the key part, isn't it? It's just simple. I mean, it's just boom and boom, boom and boom. And it locks into place. Those magnets are freaking strong. I mean, it's just like your wallet slapping on there. You can feel it when it gets into the right spot. You like it? And so that piece is going to be an aluminum piece as well, the slider. So, I mean, it's basically going to be one of those, I mean, we wanted to call it like the guide or the outfitter kit, but at the end of the day, it's the pro kit, you know? There's more bills. For some people, like you say, there's stuff they're not going to use. It has everything. You've thought of a lot of stuff. And maybe that's why you say it's been, I don't know. It's been a long time coming. A little bit coming.

You've wanted to anticipate maybe the next couple of things or, you know, whatever. You've thought a lot about it. Yeah. And even leaving this piece on there, then we've also got that to where it'll still connect right to your tripod. Still got enough juice to go through. So you can leave your phone scope on it, still slap it to your tripod. Mm-hmm. What were you going to say? I was going to say, it won't charge through that, but it will go. You can even put it on your dash, you know, obviously it won't charge, but your wraps are all still there. So even with your phone scope adapter on there, and now it's a heavier phone altogether, it'll still hold it on your dash mount. Yep. There, yeah. Pretty crazy. And it's an individual magnet out here on its own, too. Oh, that one. That's why you're not going through the back. So that's why you're getting that solid connection. Yeah. Wow. Wow.

A lot of ingenuity, a lot of the work brains do. There's more coming, don't worry. Oh, yeah. This is just our first launch of the year. We're just getting started. I want to give you boys credit for inventing the magnet. That's what I mean. This stuff's crazy. You know. Next level. It's just something that we've had people ask for. And at the end of the day, that's one thing we're grateful for, is every person that supported us and helped us get to where we're at and given us feedback. At the end of the day, I love constructive criticism. Yeah, for sure. Not me. We don't, Bronson. We don't like constructive criticism. Well, it is a motivator. If there's validity to any of it, it'll motivate you to improve and fill it, in your case, a niche, a void, a gap, a barrier, whatever. And in our business, we have similar stuff.

Whether it's an error, a commission or omission, just you didn't do something that you maybe should have or you made an error on a drawing odd. Never happens. Never happens. But yeah, it's a motivator. Yeah. Step up your game. I really like the batteries. I'm telling you, you use a battery. Okay.

Nowadays, if you don't have your phone, or let's say your phone goes dead. No. You don't have mapping. You don't have GPS. You don't have a way to call home. You don't have a now app to work with your in-reach. In-reach is a pain. In-reach sucks. You just want to hit SOS and be done. Come get me. Just come get me. Come get me. I got a dead phone. I got a sliver of my finger, but come get me. Because you can't type without it, without using Earthmate or whatever. You can, but it takes 14 years. It does. You might bleed out before you do it. So anyway, I really like the battery thing because I'm always taking an extra battery because that's life and death. And then you got the cable that goes with it that's 14 feet long. And this is just you slap it on and go. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's super light. Yeah. It's awesome. Yeah. A lot of cool things. Any chance to get a mule deer on there?

Maybe the 300 Epic. Why your elk? Why not my deer? Let's search chief. Which one? Chief. Yeah, Carter. How do you pick? You can leave one out if you pick one. I've got a favorite. Really? You know, my favorite, I got the sheds to sit in my office. You do? Yeah. Brutus? Do you have them in your office? Why aren't they in my office? You haven't asked nicely. I tried to get those before. Have you really got them? The originals? I got a set of Repos. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're 220 inches. You can have them.

Yeah, but how many times did you drive past them and so did I? A lot. Yeah. On a daily basis. And Logan did too. I know. I know. You guys slept within. Oh, yeah. Logan was a baby. Five to eight miles. I might not have been around enough to remember this whole experience. Who remembers that? You weren't. What was that? Back in the Brutus days. I know. 2010.

2010. I don't know. That was back when you had to test a picture out. Logan was 10 years old. I was 10 years old. I was a man, yeah. I was a man. I had my hunter safety lined out. Did you have your blue card? My blue card is in my wallet. You got it. You had a wallet? There's no way he had a wallet at 10 years old. Hey, I've been stacking bills. He had a coin. He did one of those little rubber coin verses. Oh, yeah. That's what Logan had. It was awesome. I was putting away quarters like you wouldn't believe. Yeah. Anyway. Well. That's too funny. Good stuff. This is a heck of a kit. So, let's talk maybe about, I mean, we've talked about a lot of things. You want to land it out again and talk about this promo code and what we're going to offer? Maybe what's what you really want in the kit. Don't let us put words in your mouth. Just tell us what you're offering. That's what I mean. Yeah.

What your intent was here. Put the gun down then because you're telling us we have to offer something. Well, I was thinking I wanted to shut her back. Jason teed up the promo code. So, what are you going to buy with the promo code? What does that get discount on? So, it's going to be a store-wide promo code. And this would be Jason with Phone Scope, not Jason Carter. But it is the only active promo code for the Carbon Series. So, there you go. Website-wide, but the only one active. Today with us, but it's been January 2nd. Yesterday was basically the soft launch. Yeah. Yep. Okay. That's the hot item to be looking for right now. That's your new. And so, what does this kit include with this promo code? Is he doing a kit? We've said the word kit. And what are we buying? Oh, does the promo code go for any and all pieces? To the carbon stuff we've talked about today. Yep.

So, it's priced individually. It's probably all on the website. Oh, look it. I write down the website. Except the wallet. You got a case, a charging bundle, a mount bundle, a master bundle. So, your master bundle is everything we talked about. Okay. Everything we've showed you today. And then this. And the case. And then the phone case. Yep. So, that's going to be your master bundle right there. It's going to be your case, your tripod adapter. No shutter bundle. A battery bank. But we haven't got the Epic 300 bundle yet. Okay. Here we go. See? Because this was just magically created. So, who knows what's going to show up? What else is there to put? I mean, that's what it is. It's the. What do you call it? Pro what bundle? The Carbon Pro Series. Carbon Pro Series. Yep. So, everybody that's interested, go to phonescope.com. P-H-O-N-E-S-K-O-P-E. Justin, scope is not spelled S-K-O-P-E.

Why do we do that? Hey, is there an origin to that? Or did one of you spell it wrong to start with when you bought the domain and you had to stick with it? School and beaver. You know, yeah.

Actually, it's catchy and it's different. It is different. Is that basically, I mean, it is good. It was on purpose more just because I get trademarked. Yeah. And off. Yeah. Not a different word. A generic term. Yeah. Phone scope. I love teasing you about it. S-K-O-P-E. S-K-O-P-E.com makes you remember it. But we're going to stick with beaver education. You misspelled it wrong. Bought the domain. Paid way too much for it and you had to stick with it. That's a good story. We know. We know. We've seen. What do you got to say about beaver education? We've seen those graduates over there.

He's actually killing it. Just teasing you a little bit. Hey, and guess where all the phone scope ships out of? Beaver. Minersville, Utah. Minersville? Yep. Minersville? Minersville Post Office. Really? You want to? Hold on. Is there a rationale? Hold on. You know how they got the new building down there? You want the real story or the fake story? Yeah. Hold on. Let Jason tell the story why they got the new building. They got the new building. So we were back in early days. Early Hunt and Full days before it was named Hunt and Full. It was named Newsletter. Right? It was named Newsletter. And then Carter's Hunter Services? It was Carter's Hunter Services. And then you named the magazine. And then under the newsletter was Newsletter. And then we named Hunt and Full. I want to say it was 2003. Okay. But anyway, we ran all of our postage through Minersville. A town of 800 to 900 people.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Tiny. Tiny town. Yeah. But I mean, sales were off the roof. And they became the richest post office in the West. Well, it required lots and lots of business that required a bigger building and a new building. Right? 100%. No. He's telling the truth. Is it? You know how a lot of- It's a nice brick building. You know how a lot of federal buildings are named after past presidents? Is that named after you? Well, I mean, I don't know. No. No. No. Heck no. We wouldn't even want that. It was just more or less. It was just cool. You run it through your local venue. And we enjoyed a nice new little post office. It was awesome. Right? It still stands today. It's full brick. It's awesome. Yeah. Carter Federal Library. I think it's full brick. I haven't been through my- No, it's full brick. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's nice. So, now we're going to- Bronson. No. No, listen.

I'm not listening. It gets better. Listen to this, Bronson. So, that was a good explanation. Yeah. Good explanation, but- Now listen. So, he's telling 100% the truth. Okay. My in-laws live in Minersville. And my father-in-law calls me one day. He says, hey, I need you to start shipping some stuff through Minersville. I was like, okay. This is after, you mean you did everything through Beaver? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This was probably- Your shop is in Beaver. Yeah. Our shop's in Beaver. So, this was probably- You've been doing it all there, but he wanted you to move. And we're talking how many miles? Four miles ago? 10 miles? 15? Whatever it is? It's- Four or five years ago? How far is it, Logan? 17? 17? What's the drive? Yeah.

What's his rationale? Everybody's got a 22-250 in there. You're smashing dogs to and from school. Right, Logan? Yes. Wet in a line at Minersville. Drive by, look over where Brutus was harvested. Oh, geez. Let's give out a little bit of a rush. Hey, $250. So, what was his rationale for saying you need to ship some stuff out of that? Okay. So- Government thought there was not enough sales. I don't know. What? So, he says they're about to shut this post office down because- Come on. You guys left? You left them behind. I mean, that was a lot of years. So, guess what Big Brother Cheston does over here? You saved the day. So, got Carter's back from more ways than one. So, it's the Carter- You continued the legacy. That's right. It's the Carter-Davis Federal Post Office. They just don't know it. The government doesn't acknowledge that. But that's the name. Carter-Davis.

The Carter-Davis Federal Post Office. Which includes, when you shut that down, you take one or two jobs from Minersville that's a government job. Well, and now, what's your mail? You got to drive to Beaver? I mean, where's your mail? If it's closed- Just enough. Just do enough. Right, Cheston? You're not doing all of it. No. He's saying if it gets shut down- I'm saying if it got shut down, you get Minersville to drive to Beaver to get their mail? Milford or Beaver. Yeah. No, and that's how small towns are. Like, we've got each other's back. So, whatever we got to do, we'll help out. So, well, cool. How long ago has that been? Probably four or five years. At least you still do that until- Yep. Still help out. Yep. Probably just got- They look at sales. They look at sales. They're not looking at the little cameras of how many people are not walking in. No. It's receipts.

No, it's just receipts. Pretty funny. But, yeah. Wow. I'm proud of you. That's an untold story there. I'm proud of you. I didn't know. I actually didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't even think about it until I just put two and two together. We got to that. It's pretty funny. I'd never get his name on that post. You guys do what you need to do to keep your names on that post, okay? No. Well, now, you know, then you get periodical rate and life just changes. And so, now we're, you know, here, we don't have a choice. We don't. We buy stamps, Bronson. Well, we do a lot of postage, but our magazines get shipped from the printer. Yeah. So, they leave there. It takes too much time. It used to not. We freaking stapled them. Yeah. Kinko's. I mean, it was, you know, this child sweat labor laws, stuff like that.

Hey. You live in a farming community. Everybody believes in working at age two. And then you had kids drop them off at a federal building. That's a federal crime. Whatever, Bronson. Come on. Hey, I still have kids, so be careful. You're making me uncomfortable over here. Beaver County. We still just, Beaver County still believes in kids working. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the rest of the world can go ahead and coddle them until they're 25 years old. We don't. All right. Well, that's a lot to digest. A lot of cool stuff. Yeah. A lot of cool stuff. It's awesome. So, anyway, we got this Carbon Pro phone case. You can get it on phonescope.com like we talked about. You can use the promo code. Let's say it again. Epic 300. Epic 300, and you can get a discount, right? Yep. 10% off. It's the only discount code that will work for the new. The carbon. The carbon. Yep. So, it has to be carbon.

Use the epic promo code. Get 10% off of anything you buy under the carbon series. Could be bundles. Could be singles. Could be whatever. Yep. 100%. And you also, you're going to be at Western Hunter, right? So, we'll be at Dallas Safari Club. Right. This week. Yeah. We'll be at Reno. Well, our company's headed there. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll be there too. Sending the kids down there, it sounds like. Well, no. Well, no. They're, I don't know. Old guys. Right, if you want to be honest. Old guys can't go to three in a row out of four weeks and still function. So, that's why we're staying here. Well, we're putting out magazines. Yeah. We got other stuff to do. But, I mean, we're trying to be everywhere at once is what we're trying to do. So, you're going Dallas, Sheep Show. Sheep. We'll be in Colorado at the, what's the show in Colorado, Jason? Oh, ISE. ISE. Colorado Sports. Yes. We'll be there.

We'll be at SHOT. We will be out in Nashville. Sheep Show. Sheep Show. Sheep Show. Sheep Show. And then Western Hunting. Western Hunting. Jeez. And then we got some others lined up after that. But those are a lot of shows. Yeah. So, you guys, anybody who's listened to this and wants to come see it, you can see it all on your website. We're looking at it on the screen here. Yeah. So, it's not a lot to, there's nothing left to your imagination. You can see it all on your website right now. It got launched yesterday. But if you actually want to see with it, play with it, you're going to have it all. You probably have tripods and everything set up at your booth. Do you have inventory ready to go? Yeah, exactly. It's on the pre-order right now. It's pre-order. The problem is we're hand-making each one of them on a mill. So, it takes some time to make them. It's not like our injection molded.

That's when you started out in 2010 or whatever? It's 100%. So, that's why the whole pre-order is there. And so, it's going to take us some time to get caught up. But we'll get there. You'll get there. Well, I'm clicking. I don't know. What are you phone scoping this time? It's not. We need it in June, July. And that's why it's the prime time. Yeah. So, winter's the time to get it going, get it coming. Logan's going to want to phone scope some javelina in Arizona or something. Are you going down there? Oh, absolutely. You going hunting? That's some good memories. That was my first ever hunt, javelina in Arizona.

I'm just guessing, Logan. I'm not the word at all. Well, you were there when we went hunting javelina. So, that's what I thought you were referencing. I was. I think it snowed. It did. We had to leave early. It actually was terrible. Javelina and snow don't mix. They all huddle up and just sit there and you never see them. We did see one. Anyway. Well. All right. Cool. A lot to, you know, look forward to. Yeah. Appreciate you guys stopping by. Yeah. We appreciate it. I guess. A lot of work. I mean, you know what I like about you guys? You guys are hunters. You actually are out there doing it. And, Chester, when you say a lot of people are out there asking us to do stuff, a lot of it, I think you guys push yourselves to the next level, you know, just because your mind's always working that way. But, tell us maybe some of the hunts you went on recently and then what you're looking forward

to maybe. Each of you. If you got. Yeah. No. You know, last year I had a fun year. Had a Dutton elk tag. Harvested a sweet bull with my bow. He's going to be on the battery bank. Triple, triple brow. He's got a double third. Will you sign this one? Yeah, I will.

And, uh. Cost goes double. Killed a nice buck in Colorado. Had a good time out there. Awesome. Colorado's always a good time. I'm having a hard time drawing a Utah tag. So, I haven't hunted Utah for a while, but. Other than this bull, right? Yeah. Other than this. Other than elk in Utah. Yeah. Conservation. And then my dad drew a $5 expo tag this year for the Vernon. Wow. This last year. Yeah. Muzzy tags. We went out. He killed a nice buck. Nice. It was a grind. Yeah. It was a grind out there. I'm not going to lie. But we definitely put in the time and turned out some good bucks. Good. Oh, my God. And Jason killed a stud. Yeah. Utah archery buck. You got to be behind the glass for me for once. Really? Hey. Yeah. I don't know if I liked it or not, but it was pretty cool. Yeah. Pretty cool. I felt weird. Well, it's always nice.

If you're behind the glass, you get to eat treats, drink pops and stuff. Chill out. Listen to music. It's like playing chess. Like, okay, go over here. Hey, how come it's taking you that long to get there? Oh, yeah. Until you've done that. You go to your patch. You eat treats. Then you look back through your 12th. You're like, where's the buck? Yeah. It seemed like that happened with Pollock and Gary Cyrus. They were on the glassing side, and Bronson and his boy are committed. They're like, we just picked up the buck. He's like 800 yards away. I'm like, what do you mean? I thought he was about to kill him right here. So, yeah. So, Pollock hands the radio to Cyrus. Sid says, good luck. You talk to him. You tell him. But anyway, so, yeah. I think you came across the radio and said something like, how does that happen?

Well, in the moment, you can't be held accountable for anything you say or do. In the, you're about to kill something. So, how is Chesten on the glass? Yeah. He was better than I thought he'd be. I like it. Well, it's because I've yelled at him. I've never heard him there before. I've yelled at him so many times for, don't take your eyes off, don't breathe, don't drink, don't anything. Don't use the bathroom. No, no. Go in your pants. If I'm going to walk clear over there, you're going to make sure it's still there. And I've yelled at him a time or two because it says, how'd you miss me? He says, I just blinked. I promise, you know. And it's like. Oh, that's funny. I think anyone that says they haven't lost a deer in the glass hasn't been behind the glass. No. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. Yeah.

And so, anyway, then you ended up smashing the buck on this particular stock that Chesten was behind the glass on. Yep. And it technically wasn't me stalking the deer. He was stalking for a buddy, blew it out, and. Who was. Oh, whoa. I killed it. This is interesting. I like this. So, you guys are going to. Whoa. So, get this. This sounds like a soap opera. Okay. Somebody's mad right now. Real quick. This is going to be even funnier. Okay. So, there's Chesten. And then my two best hunting buddies is named Jason and Adam. Not me. Not you. But how funny is that? And I just put that together, too. That's interesting. So, you three are hunting together? Yes. Adam's putting a stalk on a buck. Okay. And you're flanking him on the side. Archery. Yeah. And I've got phone scope footage. I'm spotter number two. You're a spotter right here. Oh, no kidding. With an aeronaut. With an aeronaut.

And a pond bleep. And I'm just sitting there with a bag of treats and my 12s that I bought from you guys. You're not fully engaged. Because you're not the only spotter. You're one of two spotters. Chesten's got satellite radio going in the background. It's right. You hear air spots. He can't hear the radio. Exactly. Yeah. All the times I tell people, hike up to that tallest knob. Yeah. I had to be the guy to hike up to the tallest knob, right? Oh, brutal. So, you guys are watching. Adam stalks. Doesn't go right. It's pole hunting. Yep. Whatever happens. Doesn't go right. Oh, it's better. I got phone scope footage that buck bedded. And Adam right above it. And he's, I'm like signaling to him because he's so close. And he's like putting his binals up. I'm like, he's right there. And next thing you know, blows out. And I see this in the glass. You know, hands up.

And I'm like, oh, dude, Jason sees him. He's coming right for him. And you saw him. By the time he saw me again, I'm on a full sprint to get in front of these deer. With your bow. With my bow. It reminds me of your first TV series. Like when you're just full on running everywhere you went. And I was like. That was with John and his elk. Yeah. It's like the intro to the last of the Mohicans. Yeah. You know, that Indian that's running. Yes. Yes. It's running. He shoots some five point bull. Like the first four minutes. You're like, this is. That was John on Southwest Desert. Oh, yeah. There was. Yeah. There was also some. Anyway, keep going. We don't want to blow that one. No, it was. It was. There was. There's. Yeah, it was. It was intense. Coffee. Running. Coffee. Blood. Blood. I keep going, you guys. So you're running. So now. We've been watching these deer.

This was the fourth or fifth stock attempt. Yeah. So I knew they were going to go one of two places. At least you think you know. Yeah. So I literally run. Full sprint. He's actually trying to get my attention back on the hill. I found it afterwards. I was. Chest and Radom. Trying to get. Chest and Radom. Okay. And I literally went to where I thought they were going to go. Hit the deck. Ranged where I thought I was going to. He was going to come out at. Set my range finder on the ground. And both deer stepped out. No way. I drew back 61 yards. You'd already ranged it to 60 or something. Yep. It was. I ranged. The bush I ranged was 64. And you were a good friend and shot the small one. Just a saddle. Yep. Saddle. Where you thought that you're coming through. Wow. I did shoot the smaller deer. You did? But it was probably four or five years older. Oh. Wow. The other one was a baby giant.

Yeah. Heavy. Wide. Wide. Is baby giant alive? Yep. To my knowledge. Look at that buck. Oh. That's not it. Geez. There you go. What's the other sight? He is heavy. Geez. How wide is that three-by? He was 29. No kidding. Chest and we got 30. The other ones. There's chest and with the glasses. I like it. That's right. Yeah. The other buck's probably. Got at him. A solid 180. Just beautiful 440. But yeah. And I told him. I said. We've kind of let that buck live. Yeah. Well that deer's always going to be probably if he's that big as a three. Carter? So was it a perfect shot. 61. Would you shoot that deer this year? Well I mean yeah. Okay. Purest protein on the planet. Gonna fill freezers. Hashtag. I've never heard him talk about. Hashtag freezer buck. Freezers. It's going to be easy to find this episode. It's at 300. I made it. We're going to go back to this many times. Hey.

He's looking for a 300 pounder next year. That's what 300 represents. Spike elk. What's about 300 pounds? I've got new plans. New year. New plans. New meet. Well that's an awesome buck. Yeah. I smoke him. I can see him. I smoked him. I don't know if that's the entrance or exit right there. That's the exit. In front of the shoulder. Right in the shoulder. That's the exit. Smoked him and about 15 seconds after I pulled the trigger my phone rings and Cheston screaming. He's dead. He's dead. Yeah. Yeah. He ran 60 yards and tipped over. Wow. That's awesome. Well those are freaking fun hunts when you got tight buddies there. And it went to oh this went to crap. And then all of a sudden the deer's dead. Yeah. Second. Yeah. Scenario. It's the first time in my life I've ever had that circus type happen. I like our little computer system. Might be the one and only. Yeah. That's awesome.

Logan brought up your Instagram. I'm following you now. I'm going to freaking check it out. Yeah. It's pretty high tech here for you guys. I'm pretty impressed. For somebody from Beaver County running a phone to a big what? Flat. We just tell Logan and John. 60 incher? What is that? Yeah. I don't know. Big old TV. Yep. So it's nice. TV, computer. It is nice. The real reason we had to do that is so Carter and I from NISTIS can read it. The old guys. Well, we want to have like Zoom meetings and stuff like that and have a whole full on meeting, you know? Yeah. I like it. Looks good. Very impressed, boys. Well, that's an awesome story. So anything big planned for this year? Or is it going to have to rely on some draw stuff and things like that? Just going to rely on some draw. General stuff in Utah maybe? Hopefully an archery elk tag for me. Oh, you got a bunch of points, Jason?

Not a bunch, but enough for the unit I want. Start flirting with some damage. Yeah. To do damage. Well, good. Enough. Get chested behind the glass one more time. Oh, yeah. I will gladly. I'm looking forward to it. There's merit to being behind the glass. No. The pressure drops. Yeah. You get amped up, but it's really fun to be back there just playing chess. I prefer being behind the glass. Yeah. I do, too. I almost feel like the glasser plays a bigger part. Honestly, it does, you know? And when you're the shooter guy, there's just pressure. Like, if I let all these guys down or myself down or just the pressure. You know, there's a lot of pressure. There's also communication. We should have a whole podcast on radio communication and just communicating on a stock period and stocking. Signals or however people do it. Signals, whatever. You know?

A lot of people use radios, but it's legal in most states. So, anyway. Can you think of anything else we should talk about? No. No, you would be proud of my elk I killed last year, though. You always give me crap because it's easy to kill an elk because they scream where they're at. They're part of the country. They pee everywhere. They're yellow school buses. And so, I spot and stocked with no cows with him. In August? No bugling. No. September 10th or 11th. It was a delayed rut. We all know what the rut was last year. I do not know what I'm watching right now. Logan's got Instagram going. Be careful what you're surfing. Logan, who do you follow? Surfing. That is one of my friends who's a model, but. Okay. Now, you're going to be in trouble because we haven't talked about your latest girlfriend. We're going to cut from about. Yeah, he's got the power to do that. Oh, yeah. Trust me.

None of this will see the light of day. We'll see. We'll see. It'll be fine. What's a good test for her? Yeah. What's a good test for her? No. Just all this. Oh, yeah. It is. Anyway. Anyway, spot and stock, 13 yards. Whoa. Wow. Was he bedded? No, he was feeding. Raking, feeding? Yeah, feeding. Great shot? Oh, yeah. He went 60 yards. There it is. Wow. That's your boy? Oh, you got the whole family. Yep. Your dad? Oh, geez. More than that. Fat eye guard. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He should see. I love those things. Yeah. He was a beast. So, was he feeding there? Feeding? Or what was he doing? The whole time? Single, solo. So, not moving. No. Stocking like a mule deer, basically. It was honestly beautiful because I had to worry about a ton of them. You see the two hands up. Stocking like a mule deer, basically. Let's rock. Yeah. It's awesome. Well, that's a great scenario.

So, I did think in the back of my head. I was like, well, this is one Carter can't take away from me. I hunted him like a mule deer. Baby, go give me some respect. Justin, I'm a nice guy. I'm not that hard on you. Yeah. When the mic's not off, it's all about deer. Nothing about elk. So, if you liken it to stocking a lone mule deer buck and that's how you kill it, he might respect you. I don't know. They're 4,000 pounds. It's a little different. See, here we go. And they're yellow. They're not gray. You know, all this stuff. They stand out like a sore thumb. They tear apart their bedroom. They're big. That's what it was. The kill zone's about 24 inches versus 12. They tear apart their bedroom. The funniest part was is Jason was actually with me. And we're like cutting over. And like, literally, we had no phones, no radios. There's no service where we were at.

And we're like cutting over this canyon. And we didn't know where the bull was at. We just knew he was feeding down. And I was like, okay, there's the bottom. He's going to be coming out. I got 60 yards. There's only one little teeny tree. And I'll decide here. Well, out of the corner of my eye, I see something on the same line I'm on. I'm like, oh, crap. He's going to walk right to me. And I could see him about 80 yards before he did. Because he's way behind me. I'm like 10 feet behind him. And I don't dare do a thing. And I'm just hoping he sees it. So, he comes. And he literally walks right past me. And I wait until he's kind of pointed away. And I draw. And I turn. And luckily, Jason knows what's going on. And he lets out a little teeny cow call. The second I knew he was turned. I don't even know if he let out a cow call. He let out some type of noise stop.

And he luckily was in the open. Turn and spun. Probably a butt grunt. Yeah. He was in the open? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was. Top pin low and let it rip. Well, I actually had the Garmin sight that year. Oh, yeah. And I was really nervous using that sight. Because I was just like, I don't know if this is going to be good. I'll tell you what. That saved my butt. Because that bull was so close. So, I wouldn't even have known what to use. Yeah. That's a top pin low. Yeah. Top pin low. That's right. Little bit low. Tell us a little bit about, just really briefly, like you had scoped vision and doing things like that with, you know, videoing through your rifle scope. You know, you'll actually like this story. And anybody else might like this, too. So, scope vision. Okay. I just cut you off. Don't go. It kind of drives me nuts. It's kind of. This is an irritating story.

We haven't even talked about this. I'm just throwing it out. No, no, no. I know. And you told me, like, hey, we'll spend 15 minutes and you can head home. Yeah, we're at 59 minutes. Yeah, sorry. Hopefully, you're home for dinner. We hijacked the whole story. But anyways, so we have scope vision. It's a rifle-oriented product. Well, Google, because it's rifle-oriented, did they, like, straight up shut down our whole website last year. The entire website. Because of why? Because we're selling rifles. Well, there's gun companies. I mean, I'm just trying to understand why that. It's good question. Is it because you're selling boring rifles? No. But I mean, Remington, Winchester, Brown. Because we're showing a picture of it on a rifle. One of our scope visions, a picture on a rifle. Oh. And we mentioned in the description rifles. You're videoing, killing stuff through a scope or whatever.

It's just because of who we are and they did not like it. The Dems got you. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was a crazy deal. It was a crazy 30-day fiasco there. I'll tell you what. Yeah. So what happened? So what happened? Shut down. It basically just blacklisted us, essentially, is the best way to put it. Still blacklisted to this day? No. No, not to this day. But we had to do a lot of changing and basically. Adjust your bridge. We had to rebuild our entire website. So we had to create a scopevision.com website. And then it redirects at the very end to pay through our shopping cart. And so it's not as easy to find anymore as it was before. And we can't advertise. We can't spend any AdWords. Yeah, you're scared of getting locked up again. We're scared of shutting down our entire operation. We can change up your ads with us. That's right. Do straight up paper.

We're going back to paper ads for you, boss. We do do paper ads with you. I know, but I'm saying for scope vision. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you do, but I mean. Print ads for scope vision only. They can't stop us, right? No, no. And so that's the power. Wait a think, Carter. Hey. They're not going to get us. Hey, that's the old blue card mentality right there. That's the old blue card. That's right. I'm saying here comes the wallet again. Here comes the wallet. Since you can't use technology and information to promote that company, we've got a paper magazine we'll put in at it. But you know, you've nailed it on the head. That's 100% it. Wow. There are certain things that's just crazy the world we live in. We have the same thing. We have the same thing. I think Logan's, you had to do some workarounds. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Any of our ads for our hunt giveaways are a really big deal to anybody that wants to advertise because not only do we advertise guns in those pictures and in those hunts. Some of the giveaways. Because some of our, you know, extra kits, our optics kit includes a gun or a bow oftentimes. And, yeah, so it takes a lot of work to get them up just so people can see them. So the ads will stay up. Yeah. Or the regular listing. Mm-hmm. Another reason we've got people like Logan and John and others. You've got to have a Gen Z to work on that. I don't even know. Are you Gen Z or what are you official? I am officially a Gen Z. That's why we call him that. Yeah. Juice Box or Gen Z? Because he drinks Capri Suns around here. He really does? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Juice Box and the Juice Boxes. Logan, you shouldn't do that. I'd be in front of you, too. Yeah. Capri Sun and Juice Box.

And then he called himself a man at 10 years old. Yeah. Well, I've been a man since birth. I just changed your name to Juice Box in my phone. And I don't think we gave you that. I think it was some of the ladies. That was Josh. Was it Josh or the ladies? That was Josh. Yeah. And the ladies got hold of it over here in the License Out Department. Well, we used to video these podcasts and Gen Z over here would have the videos right on himself.

Only sparingly.

Oh, that's funny. We love Tees and Juice Box. Well, he's a single guy. He had to increase his exposure rate. Yeah. That's right. Eligible hunting bachelor. That's right. Oh, that's funny. Oh, so anyway. That's a good time. Are you still a bachelor, boss? No. Well, no. I'm not on the market right now. Jeez. Wow. Who's the lucky gal? Who's the lucky gal? Jason, he can edit everything. Anything you ask him, won't make the final cut. We weren't even going to give him a hard time because we want this one to stick around. I know. But hey, that's all right. We've run a couple of them off.

All right. Well, cool stuff. So you're still doing the scope vision where you can have adapters for your rifle scopes. Yep. Still got it. A cool one we got out right now is Scope Micro. I don't know if we ever talked about it, but it basically lets you use your phone on a microscope. It's created a lens that just twists in in place of basically this adapter. Okay. And it's cool how many hunting camps. I was down in New Mexico a few years ago, and there's a doctor down there. That's what he does. He reads slides, and he's like, dude, I need this. And then he sends it to the next doctor for a second opinion? Yeah. Or that type of stuff? The doctor sent it to him for a second opinion. So he can read the slides. Yeah. What am I looking at here? What kind of cancer cells am I looking at? Yeah. Video because it's moving the organisms in the slides?

Well, so normally they'll just cut it out and actually overnight it to the actual sample. Yeah. Slide. Yeah. And with this now, they can do it and have results back. Real time. Save a day basically or overnight. Yeah. Yeah. So it's really big in the veterinarian world. So vets are really using it because now you can have like vet techs actually doing most of the vet's job. So now when he comes in, he's ready to rock. Yeah. He's diagnosing. Diagnosing. Yeah. So it's been a really cool, something way out of my element. You know what he's doing this, Carter? What next? What next? He's birding. He's doing doctors. He's messing. Saving animals. The doctor's industry. Killing animals. Medical. The medical devices. Saving stuff. Killing stuff. You know, a funny, I'll tell you guys a funny story since we've got a second. So I had my screensaver once. It was a picture of my wife and a big buck.

She killed me and her. And I was at a birding event. And I go to show. I didn't think. I mean, normally I'm on top of my game. And I go to open my phone. And the lady's like, whoa, whoa. Is that deer asleep? And I says, yeah. We're taking a picture. I'm trying to hurry and show her. And like halfway through the demonstration, she's like, how is that deer asleep? I says, did you hear what I just said for the last three minutes? Have you been dwelling on that picture? You know? Lost the cell. Yeah. Lost the cell. Do you think your birding people are the same people that have blocked you on Google? The Google searches? I don't know. It could have been a report of a bunch of people saying, hey, there's a gun I feel unsafe. I don't know. But at the end of the day, I'll buy by other. I just wonder which side birders are on. That's all.

You know, they're really good people from most of the shows that I see. And they care about the environment. Come from all walks of life. Yeah. But there's definitely some that have a different belief than others. And to each their own. I like birds. I like dead ones. You know? Bronson. When's the last time you went bird hunting? Dude, I've been with my kids. Chuck or quail, a few things. So we got a new little pup. Dog. Yeah. Turkeys. I'll blast the turkeys. I needed a bird dog. I love killing a turkey. Stupid. Stupid things. They'll school you over and over and over. And they got a peanut-sized brain. I can't handle the humiliations about a turkey. Exactly. I'll just be honest. So you bite three and a half and you reach out at 85 yards. You rock them at like 80 plus yards. All right. Well, I think I'm wallowed out. Yeah. This is a lot to take in, Chester. Wallowed out.

That's an elk terminology there. Yeah, exactly. I think you're kind of. Deer don't wallow. Yeah. He's coming around. Listen to this. Hey, elk make me tired. Deer, I'm rejuvenated. But they fill freezers with meat. Yeah, freezers. Elk do. Yeah, that's right. That's your team for the year. Purest protein on planet Earth. Freezers in plural. That's right. You know, not just one half a freezer. Hey, new year, new me. New slate. New you, Bronson. Huh? I can't wait to see it. New products. You are writing a lot of checks today that I want you to catch later on. Because you're, I don't, I know you well enough that I know it. I've done some weird stuff this last year and there's more coming. Weird stuff? You hunted a whitetail. A couple of them. I can't call that. A couple of them. I can't call that weird. Did you have to sit in the blind? Weird is when you say I'm going to.

Over and over and over. Weird is when you tell me I'm only hunting. I like it. I fell at home in a tree stand. Yeah, that's not weird. Well, weird is when you say I'm only hunting Africa this year. Okay. When you tell me that. I'm not doing that. Okay. That's weird. Although there's some cool stuff. No, I'm just saying you as a Western hunter and you tell me that, like, I'm not believing it. Just like I'm not going to believe you're hunting for meat this year for all this free thing. I don't believe it. We need some meat here at the office that's just, you know, stuff to snack on. I've already told you when we're already going to solve that problem. I've got kids leaving the house and I've got a meat problem. Cheston, we're old enough. We're getting to be empty nesters. Yeah. Kids leaving houses and your meat. It used to just, you know, even a teenage boy. One teenage boy. Yeah.

Can clean you out. Can take care of a couple deer. Four to five gallons of milk a week. And a half gallon, a half an elk a year. That goes and you're like, what are we doing with all this meat? We've got too much meat. So, anyway. Yeah. First world problems, I guess. I mean, hey. Life is good. We're going to start bringing. Life is good. I'm glad you're doing good, Cheston. Yeah, I appreciate it. Jason, what do you do at PhoneScope? I'm the general manager. Are you? Yep. You have to hang out with this guy, huh? When he shows up. Oh. I like it. Man. Truth. Back when you used to live here, like it was a little bit. Now you're up there, right? I think I saw him more when he lived here. Really? I think so. I get more done when I'm at my home office than I do in my normal office. Oh, here we go. I'll give it to him. He does. He works at two in the morning. Yeah. Yeah.

These guys will just pull me a million directions. Once in a while, you've got to set your alarm, Cheston, send out an email, and go back to sleep. Just so it keeps it real. I don't need to because I stay up. I mean, I operate pretty good on four or five hours of sleep still. But the older I'm getting, the more I can feel like, oh, that extra hour's feeling a little better. You'll get a few more hours. And then now, Bronson and I, we're going back the other way. We can't. You know how old people, they wake up. They go to bed. It's kind of early, but they wake up early. Oh, 3 and 3.30. We're turning into them. Oh, no. And I don't know where it's coming from. I don't know if you're like, there's no more growth in the body and mind. It's now deteriorating, so you just don't need as much sleep. I don't know what that phenomenon is called. I don't know. I know I need a nap here pretty quick.

We've been up since 3. Well. That's too funny. Dude, it's already 4.30 in Utah. Anyway, we're excited. We appreciate you guys coming out. Awesome products. Great products. A lot of fun. Thanks for taking time. I'm glad you came here. I don't know. It's different. When everybody jumps on your website, they're going to see it, but it's nice to see it here firsthand instead of talking to you conceptually over the phone. So it was kind of neat. You live a 45-minute drive away from us, so thanks for coming down. You bet. It's been awesome. Okay, everybody. Anybody that's interested, phonescope.com, P-H-O-N-E-S-K-O-P-E.com. Bronson, I guess we're going to go back to the desk. Carbon Pros and accessories. Use code EPIC300. EPIC300. EPIC300. Yep. On the carbon products. Get your stuff ordered. If you hunt in multiple states or want to expand your hunting portfolio, the EPIC Outdoor

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