EP 91: Giant Dall Sheep in Alaska with Adam Bronson and the Crew

which when you're in Alaska it's light at 4 30 5 o'clock you end up getting weather you get stuff out of your control it started crushing us with rain that night we backed out crossed the river got back to camp anything to do with western big game welcome to the epic outdoors podcast powered by under armor hey everybody jason carter epic outdoors crew we got adam jeff and john here yep that's right adam he's back from alaska we got jeffrey he's back from alaska so kind of excited to tease these guys a little bit see what they see what they what happened up there we know jeff basically drove from utah at least him and his family drove from utah took all their gear and everything they own including the kitchen sink probably and went up there and hit the hall road clear up there in alaska so and i flew up with two

bags under 50 pounds that's right dude we are like we are loading the trailer and i'm like like and and my dad's kind of like me like we're pack rats like if it's possible to take it we're gonna take we are loading it and i'm like i don't know how people do it with the backpack like they're like most people are going to dude we fill the trailer i'll talk about coming home because it was interesting because yeah you had to put a sheep cape horns everything cylindrical in there and long we'll talk about what the qu pack is capable of all right speaking of which is your qu pack in one piece right now it is well it was when i got home but thanks to delta airlines they don't handle stuff like i usually do we've got a few so jobs to do and it's being done as as the shoe cobblers right now that's right all right so anyway we uh before we get started we

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is that what you're getting out there it's it's pretty southern utah and northern arizona it's all it's people are turning back tags and 23 south archery elk i mean they'll never get them again 10 archery elk poncegon guys selling poncegon tags for 10 000 less than they paid now which gives you a very affordable 25 000 tag it's a very expensive 190 inch deer really and so anyway just a lot of it's just a different year it's kind of fun but having said that guys are doing very well on sheep up in alaska adam killed a freaking giant 170 inch it was pretty awesome i mean i would have been way happy with a whole lot less than that um it'd been quite a few years since i'd went up and killed my last one so it was just getting old man yeah i mean and uh like i told my wife i've got a great wife as do we all because they put up with what we love to do but we need to have that podcast

with the wives we do it's just scary because jason power women across the earth yeah well i have a great wife and she knows what i love to do and she's behind me 110 percent but when and jason's too but when we've hatched this idea a year ago and jason i've been too scared to go through with it my wife's like are you sure get jason and i i'm happy yes they say stuff like that and they're like okay we're just gonna go back to work basically we're gonna have we're gonna have male guests of our choosing yes believe in the same things we do yes the the the same hopes and dreams that we have but we don't want to see the other side we thought it would be cool light-hearted to have our wives on a podcast and let them just talk about the hunting widows or whatever just see where it goes but it's a slippery scary slope and we never dare go through what's the upside

there's i mean why do it we could talk about fun stuff it can go go through with something interesting that could otherwise cause maybe a divorce yeah so honey i love you someday down the road that's still in the queue for now we're talking about this so for now we're gonna spend uh college education money on doll sheep so go ahead so anyhow uh so a couple years ago i stone that we're gonna be doing next year i think we're getting smoked out right there it sounds like so that's another topic smoking people northern bc is terrible it's on fire but anyway long story short uh booked a hunt it got bumped up um you know through some circumstances uh i got bumped up a year early some people needed to switch jason harrison the q you super good guy i wasn't gonna say his name well he's an advertiser of ours

he's he's supported us from this from the get-go he's killed a ton of sheep he's he's killing everything that walks uh super good hunter and circumstances allowed where adam had a hunt book for next year and jason had one this year and they're like well didn't realize that he already had another trip planned to the yukon something had to give for him yeah and uh i was able to just move mine up a year and jason go the next year and uh all as well first hunt so back in alaska man you know wrangle mountains yeah um big genetics uh and the last few years this uh ultimate tuli outfitter has been producing some stompers two of the last i think three or four years they've killed the number one ram in north america not they're all just the same exact age as seven day eight year old ram's born whatever was in the water the right weather a light winter everything something you know i've i've

talked to him about that because you know sheep go through that and spurts even down here in the lower 48 look at the muddies yeah i mean there was 10 years ago they weren't killing a 170 but we predicted and the biologists were like we have an inordinate amount of young up and young up and three to five retarded amounts and then about 2013 we killed a couple and since then there's been a few giants giants every year yeah and a lot of 170s yeah all right we're digressing back to alaska progressing is what i like to say we're progressing so anyway it was it was just time to go back and uh went up there uh with really not a i mean i i'd kill the dollar sheep so i didn't you know it wasn't just i just need to kill one but at the same token i didn't same something white's coming yeah i want to kill a sheep of course you want to but i didn't have like a score in mind or

a 40 inches in mind or anything i could i told my guide uh jay stanford i said hey i can get there a whole lot of ways uh a big heavy double broomer that would be cool you find it and i'll justify it yeah well and he just and he said i like that let's just when we both see it and we know it we'll know it and i says that's exactly right that's it could be a wide flaring cool thing a lot of those guides like them big heavy broom yeah and if he's old they're they have one up there in their guide shed that i would shoot like that that's probably 34 to 5 but he's like 12 years old and just a stud i think your dad jason shot one like that he did with chris mccain you were with i was with him on the ball like that yeah i would shoot like he's just just an old he's probably lost six or eight inches on each tip

but anyway so um south southeast alaska has had a lot of rain since the first of august and you know when you go up there and plan and for that you have all your rain rain our our brown bear and may sucked yeah and so i was surprised when i got there that they said they said this is the wettest we can ever remember and i said really and they looked at me and says no really the wettest we haven't seen this much rain here specifically because part of the rain goes where these guys are at are in kind of the rain shadow of the chugach and the saint elias that's right out on the coast they're on the back side of it they're still in the mountains but yeah and you know they they say yeah we get 10 or 12 inches rain i'm like what 10 or 12 that's like cedar city yeah and we were in the desert and they

everything's green good antlers growth years and bad antlers yes and so anyway they're the rivers are swollen bottom line they couldn't get get me out really uh i was going to go hunt some of the upper glacier country they couldn't get me there they just said hey we you know it was fogged in we we tried to get us up there and i'm like they're like well we're not going to kill you getting in or that please don't let's just they said we can take you back to the lodge or we can put you on one of these lower ranges we'll just say dump us out so we hunted that first uh first day on a range we had first rent first sheep i saw was a double boomer after i'd said hey i can maybe shoot this like there's your double boomer and i'm like yeah it's like the first one i'm like yeah he looks good he's heavy but i'm like the stock appears impossible he was in a precarious spot but no he was a really

cool ram he was but just the first ram saw so we saw 14 rams the first day he was the only one that would have been legal by definition but we ended up getting moved that day was a beautiful day the only day we lived out of our rain gear and we got moved up to the higher country and and uh it looks like you're on the face of mars there you're like what can these sheep eat and every once in a while you see a pocket of green in a little basin and like all right there's some sheep and uh second day we saw after we got moved there we saw a group of five rams two of which were legal and we we cat moused them for a while just i guess for lack of a better word trying to make sure they weren't we weren't walking away from something we shouldn't and we got close you know killing range of these 250 to 350 yards and took pictures of them one was a long kind of a flare and steer horn almost looking

ram but he was like nine and probably 39 or so long ram a little longer on one side the other one looked almost like a carbon copy of the ram that i'd already shot but probably an inch or two shorter and and and that was kind of where i left i said you know if i end up taking one of these rams like this home on day seven eight or nine or something i'll probably be happy but i says this day two and uh we we walked and uh you know so there's like three legal rams now so for guys who don't know tell us what a legal ram is so yeah to go to alaska uh and other places well it has to be you can meet three three criteria to be legal um it's got to be eight years or older and to to to judge that you got you to usually be within killing range you know let's say 500 yards and in with a really good no heat waves and count the rings you know count the lamb tips up and you've got to have eight visible

rings or greater to be legal or be full curl which um you know have the curl the horn go back and reach the tip bisect the base of the horn when viewed in a perfect circle so you gotta which is hard on a live animal you a lot of times you get the oblong angle and you get one angle and it looks like he's curling a quarter but it's not a full circle so the guides are very trained to not get not get ahead of themselves unless you see a no no doubter and then the third criteria is if they're double broomed or broken which means the full lamb tip is gone you've got you know which is let's say two to three inches two to four inches every ram grows a little bit more that first year but if that's gone past the lamb tip is all gone it's also legal so it has to meet that criteria so to be legal in alaska and uh and there are some some unique differences that archery areas and stuff i think

is less than most guys will kill a legal ram by definition so you're passing up three legal rams already the thing is you like you indicated earlier you end up getting weather you get stuff out of your control and generally you're talking about a 10-day hunt and we knew and we knew they're expensive we knew that too as we're watching these rams they were there these two were pretty one of them is the next rest of your yeah and we knew there was bad weather i mean we're we're getting spit on the whole day and it's not about you know if you're going to get moved to a different part they got to come get you you know and if if it if they can't come get you either so you're burning days just sitting in a huge valley that you've hunted out for two three days and and you know some of that glacier stuff glacier country it it's up up and over stuff is significant because you're going up

and over and you're walking ice fields for miles and you gotta have crampons and all that it gets semi-technical you can't just it's not sunny northwest territories in a lot of this parts where you just keep walking valleys and up and over the next it's part of it is all right we've hunted this out and uh you're you get up in the fog with you know it's 6500 or something like that going over to the next and you're in a fog bank on an ice field you have no bearing where you're at you don't even know what direction you're walking you can follow gps but it's just it's it's easier said than done to just hike to the next basin and hunt it out so anyway the we got wind through guides the couple couple of the other hunters in the with the outfitter killed opening day couldn't get to where they saw a big ram yeah they killed opening day the ram you're going to feed but i actually didn't

even know that yet um but but they'd killed and they said hey we got to go up near you where you guys are to pick some people up maybe we'll move you that drainage because such and such killed a ram you know within a mile of their where we let them go and they didn't even touch the whole rest of the drainage and i'd been to that drainage before and it's it's a you can hunt it for four days it's giant yeah i mean it's 10 or 12 miles long sheep on both sides so we knew it was basically barely touched and we're like all right if if you can get us do that otherwise we'll hike down there spend all day if we can if we can navigate the ice fields and all that turns out they could get into us they moved us down there which means in alaska you're done hunting that day um they moved us in the morning because they had a window you can't hunt till 3 a.m the next day which isn't a bad thing

it ended up being a a terrible rain day luckily they moved us when they did because if they didn't we would have been socked up on the ice um but anyway when we got down there yeah they had a beautiful 40 40 and a half inch ram 100 from california killed just a beautiful it's a mid to upper 160s just i saw that i'm like yeah that i would shoot that yeah like that yeah and they killed it but but they had seen a ram um opening day that that was big but it was on the other side of the valley across the raging river they couldn't go after it but so they're like oh i put that in the back pocket they kept going hunting winter up in the next basin killed their sheep and now we're getting flown out and he had a picture and it took me about 0.2468 seconds to say that's that's a ram that's a ram that's a shooter and my guy too like all in so anyway they got flown out we got dropped

off in there and uh we pretty much had tunnel vision that night you know we it was most of the day was in the tent tunnel vision meaning you only had about a four inch view through the tent window that's right a couple a couple meanings yes a literal you could not see but then b that's the only ram we need to find before we even start hunting and uh so with the commotion yeah he was he was dropping us off and you know they'd kill the ram in there and shot a couple times i don't remember but the ram was way high in the we call it the goat cliffs yeah they he had a little ram well probably a three-quarter curl with him way high on the mountain so when he dropped you off was it did you have to cross the river that they didn't or he dropped you off on the other side no we were on the wrong side still and we're just banking that the river water would come down

at some point but you know we had six or seven days and uh you know a big valley to hunt if we couldn't go that way red rock rifle just let her rip yeah it was like a mile and a half across the river but yeah i mean yeah you couldn't have done that but overall um that night just before dark it kind of lit up and we glassed we didn't still didn't know 100 it was the ram but it was right where don the other guy that was with the first hunter said that's the mountain he's on and but they were 400 yards up in the nasty steep we just call it the goat cliffs because goats are notorious for just climbing where come get me if you can because i know you can't basically yeah and uh you're gonna be nothing you're gonna do that night so the next morning we we you know got up we saw him and spent all day working our way up there got to the river it was pretty high but we were mainly just

watching the sheep making sure it's him and we realized this is him got a lot of live video of him um across the river that night it was sketchy but boulders coming down through next to you and things like that and got in close enough to realize just what we suspected this ram is pretty special he looked big um still had a really unique look that he comes out and comes forward out towards his nose before he starts coming up so it it's interesting once he's dead and in your hands you're like how did how did how do we not just yeah he's legal but when they carry themselves a different way these rams they're not you know they're they're not old enough to just push it up and start twisting back they're they're they're right about when they're you know seven eight being legal but they're magnums and so you know but and the shape of the horn too so then you can't tell if he's full

curl for fact yes and you're looking up yeah you're looking steep up and so it's just you never get it right and he's like just make sure if we ever get close i need to make sure and i'm just like if this thing is not legal b he's full curl yeah that says and we couldn't tell that until the next 170 inch that's not legal yeah there's problems with the that's right we trust me me at night i would talk to him i'm like would they take a boon and crockett ram from you and he's like probably oh yeah they'd make an example of you they would you wouldn't get to hunt they would love to when they get down i couldn't hunt i'd have to hunt puerto rico and mexico the rest of my life chipmunks maybe that's right with something that didn't burn powder that's right that's right slingshot only but anyway so eating and abetting it'd be bad that's right so all that day we watched him we realized

he's big he actually came down about half that distance it started crushing us with rain that night we backed out crossed the river got back to camp how far is he at that point like we were probably 900 or a thousand so do you think he can see you but he doesn't care oh no we were stealthy we were so overly cautious because we knew he'd been exposed to these other guys oh but they're green yeah so it doesn't matter far enough away he's not and we were very careful we'd all you know but yeah we didn't want him to see us because if you push him up higher and he goes over like we're like if we if we invest time in this and blow him once we're starting over at day five or six and who knows what else is yes yeah probably but we're kind of starting over so we were very you know this is our we would wait till they would bed head on the ground before we would

go through the open country stay in the brush and nasty and uh you know you couldn't kill him where he was so all that second day still the third day we wake up we start going up camp and he was finally out of the cliffs right where the talus met and i remember thinking here we're gonna kill him today because he's finally all right my basin's back to normal and i'm i'm just feeding and he fed and fed and fed and let us close the distance he fed like he hadn't fed as much and i thought he's up in those goat rocks yeah and that day he fed till 10 30 which when you're in alaska it's light at 4 30 five o'clock yeah and he crushed it till 10 10 30 which is that's a lot of crap you're used to hunting deer that's a lot that's like five or six hours of hard feeding and so when he bedded down we made

our move we were probably on that time that morning we got we got great views of him and we got out of sight popped up on the ridge that we thought would be straight across and they had moved in that two two and a half hours when we did our stock but we knew that they probably just rebedded right and so we just banked keep the gun on the pack he's gonna step out any moment there's a little crease you could tell 7500 yards went back in he's probably in there after two hours or so there's out feeds the little ramp so we're like all right they're in there but but we didn't see a big gram it was like till 5 15 four hours and we got pelded with rains because you're there you hiked up there you're sweating i just you know had my qu merino 250 210 top on and just threw the rain jacket over it thinking all right if it rains i'm good well then and i'm warm this is just oh yeah and after four

something hours we were visibly visibly just shaking so cold because it'd come in and rain you turn your back to it you know and all your stuff's in your pack but like your guns on your pack and you kind of need your extra clothes for some kind of a pack to lay on and you're resting heartbeat you're cold you're sitting there for three four hours not moving and it's not that cold but when you're a little bit damp and then you're just part of your laying there it's the hum it's humidity just slowly seeps it out of you it does and so you turn your back to it and then you turn your other back because it's coming different ways and anyway and and my guy he's he didn't put his coat on too and afterwards we talked about i'm like yeah i knew my my worn super down coats in my pack but if i get out there

and i start doing that that's when the ram's gonna come out then i have to shove it back in and same thing i'm thinking of all that and and really that would take me four minutes to get it out of my pack but i put it off for four hours and he tells me he's like well i just didn't get mine out of my pack because i didn't want you to feel bad that i was warm and you were freezing so he left his in his pack the whole time too and we're just froze but i'm like he took one for the team i says anyway so he finally fed out and uh he got the well he that morning he looked he says oh yeah we're killing he's full curl he's there he just said yep he's there he's barely legal 170 inch we got it more or less and ironically a couple of the other really big rams they've looked at for a day or two just like this they just have a they drop so low and they come out forward towards the nose

they just don't not arcing up they don't arc up quick yeah and it doesn't matter if he's six or seven and he's it doesn't matter if he's a 40 inch or seven eights no it doesn't matter they'll they'll take it from you so it doesn't matter a score they don't there's no boot and crock and i was joking take that long i said yeah they should have something like if he's 165 plus how could you take him he's got balls let him kill him you know maybe not that far well so anyway you couldn't make a mistake oh that's true all right so anyway so he fed out and i was and and when he fed out he wasn't in a great spot and i said i'm i whispered i said i'm so shivering i need to i'm gonna miss so i get down there and i start doing like burpees and leg squats and all that yeah like i'm 10 yards from on the back side of the hill while the ram's

up he's feeding but not in a great spot and i says just let me know if he's if he gets good do some push-ups yep do some something well then it was so i did that and i started getting warm but then what happens when you get a heartbeat and you try to and then i'm like now you're a little and i'm like oh you can see the heartbeat yeah you get it on the gun and i'm like oh that was probably a dumb move but i was literally shaking you know i needed some kind of heartbeat so i get on there steep uphill angle i had my binos on so i put my binos up perfectly under the butt of my gun so i wasn't touching it were you using this six hour rangefinder i had it but it was in my pack angle compensator or it wasn't that far it didn't matter no it was it was a good shot it was 500 yards and angle compensated to like 430 what did you use my guide had his he had a leica angle compensated yeah

but mine was in my pack and he had his there so i'm we took them both just because they don't weigh enough yeah but that's a significant difference oh 70 yards it it was that's a steep angle yeah it was it was you're yeah it was a it was enough you're gonna miss a 20 degree it was i don't know i'm not good at judging that but that's what rangefinder for right wow yeah that's right yeah so anyway and it was a little but but the grass was right in front of us at 300 to 350 and we just knew he's going to come down there the angle would would would get better distance would get shorter i just i thought that's where he's gonna come now all of a sudden he turns and he starts climbing in the rocks and he did it once and i like that i'm like i'm like what's he gonna do and pretty soon he goes up again he looked he says he's gonna climb i'm like yep all right i says i can

kill him so he started up higher and now he's probably 75 yards or 100 yards up in the cliffs not nasty cliffs yet now good trough to where if you shoot him you got to think about stuff like that because these guys have told me horror stories and of shooting rams that fall both cores pop up you get to a ram and you got two cores two bone cores and you got to go for 500 yards chinked off horn that's a seven-year-old now he's not full yes and the guy looks at you like how convenient he broke huh so you're supposed to be you know just things and you don't want to destroy your your sheep yeah and so he had a good trough as we call it you know a gravel trough that went all the way down which uh soft place to rest or to roll yeah because he's gonna roll it's so steep so anyway and the video's rolling it's a i might as well just tell the world right here and right now

i shot one right over his back what you didn't tell me that the video it is not live i don't know and i and i would thought i mean i was i was dead but i've showed john i showed chris you were gone the first day i swore i punched him because he kind of does this herky jerk thing like what was that and you know then he's out of the viewfinder right and so i didn't range find him i just said aim blow so i just pulled it and looks i knew he drove he ran 10 to 20 yards closer so i just aimed low boom and i could see it rocking my thought hit him again he staggers rolls down the mountain dead i figured i shot him both times until after we're done we're on the mountains like i'm sure you pulled it together what's that little black dot over the things back re-watch this and i'm like yeah that's a pretty good vapor trail the whole way to the sheep

and the dirt right on the right on his spine right over the top of him no so it happens i don't know how it did this next one just blew through his shoulder and just perfect just perfect and they were within six or seven seconds you'll probably hear them when we do the youtube video but i'm not that happy with that part of it the ram luckily had no idea we were there did not know what was even going on he turned and looked up the mountain you know like what was that sheep do usually you know and he was dead and then he rolled about two 250 yards down and he was a bloody he was a bloody mess we had a quart of water and a pack of 20 wet wipes and we used everything and got exactly half of them clean because that's the side that the picture needs to be taken from and i've got some unique pictures of a pink red sheep well on one side we know some guys that can fix those photos

yeah and it's true they're white you know it'll all come out in the tanning and bleaching process but we walked up to him we had uh you know high-fived and all that and we walked up to him and and it was just humbling because he just got bigger in the mat and i pull his you know he's mangled his heads under and i pulled him up and he's just and you're like oh my gosh 39 and 6 8 yeah 39 and 6 14 and a half bases just just perfect you know little he's broomed right to his lamb tip so he'd lost a little bit on each end but just perfectly that's a sheep i mean that is that's the dream that's the goal those sheep like that are that's like killing a net boone and crockett non-typical mule deer if not even better yeah it's uh they don't kill very many well and and the humbling part of it is yeah they

don't and of course you want one you can't make it happen you can't just make it happen and even if i had a bank account you look at people with banks account they just can't the thin horn sheep are the hardest thing to make happen if you want to buy a rocky and buy a desert and want a state tag you're going to kill a big ram it's going to happen or a dang nice ram yeah yeah i mean i'm not i mean you go buy a 170 inch dollar stone there's guys spend hundreds of thousands hundreds of thousands yeah hundreds and hundreds of thousands yeah and it may not happen some guys have even spent towards a million and several different hunts so very lucky very blessed uh appreciate both don martin jay stanford and ultimate tuli outfitters for all their help um circumstances allowed it had the water been lower and all that they might have killed that ram opening day with the other hunter oh that's true

it's not like you knew about the specific gram or had him named they they couldn't hardly do any flying that whole week it was crushing i mean it was not like they they'd found a couple pockets of sheep and the easier mountain range that rattled with random fog but this upper stuff was not it was uncharted and it's consistently good but just go hunt sheep and uh very blessed luckily lucky and happy to bring one home and uh i i don't know i'll probably hunt another doll at some point in my life i now will be even more just like let's just go hunt sheep and whatever trips the trigger literally because i i don't know i don't know when it'll be and i joke with my wife and again she's she's awesome she knows what this means to me but i said hey i still didn't break 40 so i've got to go back sometimes you know 40 is kind of the i don't know 200 inch of mule deer it's like even though but

really it's not yeah both my rams are over 39 and once you know 10 or 12 inches bigger than the other it's significant but but neither are 40 so there's always i've got a 14 and a half baser so i'm good now with that yes now i need a 40 i'll shoot one that just breaks 40 but anyway it was pretty awesome and uh it's awesome got home a little bit early and that always talked about that qu pack and packing out tell us about yeah come out in one took what i took yeah i took uh the icon pro 7200 which is usually the pack that i take when i guide sheep hunters if i'm on a unit handle some serious yeah if i'm on a unit that we're take that i know that we're probably going to need to stay overnight or two or it is a backpack hunt it's not usually full when i go but it's capable of filling up and when

you're up here just you and a guide in alaska and you have all your stuff and then you these alaska sheep are giant right here they're tanks and you get to take all the meat all the neck meat the ribcage everything up there to be legal and that's a that's a heavy load and i'm not saying i was as heavy as my guy jay jay he was freaking heavy like but he he's a young stud and and that's what i told myself he's the young one he can handle it but i'm like i'm like well i mean i've got all my stuff and my gun and a life-size cape because i wasn't sure i'm like i better skin him that way and then the head and so i'm i'm still heavy my toes are still numb on one foot so i don't know it's just from being pounded and uh which has happened before on sheep punts you just pound pound pound and strikes do a little nerve damage or whatever and then it comes back a week or two later

but but you know the pack worked great um it was it was awesome yeah like jason joked earlier it wasn't until i uh you know i forgot my qu gear bag that your pack zips up in um for the airlines i forgot that and so you're sending it through the conveyor belts and whatever thing with everything buckled and cinched as tight as it can be in a tight thing but it came back when my lumbar pack part was torn off by delta so that's the only thing that that needs to be done but it was it was great uh use their scarpa boots were awesome and lived in their rain gear lived in their new guide pro pants uh really like that i uh like the knee pad option because up there there everything you're on is rock they shed water and the other thing is i like his his base layers they they just don't stay we talked about i wore the same t-shirt merino t-shirt the whole hunt it's just

and i took two but like there's no need to change it no and then i had a you know another one over it and then at times a heavy one of my super down coat and rain gear sometimes but they're they're awesome great gear great i mean just trust it to it you won't go wrong um did end up standing in hill hillberg at co tent and uh same with my guide and you know they're they're tight and cozy those single mans there's no no way to put it um when we actually got moved to a different spot it was on a near a strip where they actually had a you know a bomb shelter tent that was nice because you can at least stand up to get dressed and and have some of your gear in there doesn't really get dry up there when it's raining because it's like the humidity's so high it's like always a little damp even when it's not you're just gonna learn how to be comfortable in your environment yeah and

have the gear merino is another thing about that when it's a little damp it still has warming properties you know it's it does so it was great red rock precision second shot at least first shot was somebody else's gun yeah or something maybe there was a gust i didn't account for i don't know but i blame it all on myself i should have killed him um maybe it was just that i was feeling a little anxiety that he was going to start to climb he was feeding it's not like he was alert but i airmelled it not much i mean it it probably missed him literally by an inch over his back yeah but um he came home with me and i'm it doesn't matter who cares he's dead he's awesome yep i was ready to spray bullets before he got away i need one like that i killed a doll and just like you said you gotta you gotta take it to the next level but you you can't it's just the right

situation i know yeah meaning you can't plan for a ram like that i know and especially most blue collar guys you just go hunt sheep and when something happens like that it's a total blessing because we can't go often enough or you're not you know you're not hunting with a special tag say you went 10 times in your if you really were addicted and you had the funds to do it and you went 10 times in your life it's 10 times to kill a monster i mean think about how many builder hunts we go on oh yeah how many tags we eat yeah is there enough can you do it enough can you make it happen i mean it's it's a it's a special commit to special special ram that makes that and of course what do they kill three a year that are like that four five maybe in north america good years yeah i mean it's in north america we're talking yeah yeah yeah that's right it's unbelievable that it's great how you know

anyway quite a quite an accomplishment and uh congratulations it's awesome i mean at least you killed one earlier this year i went on that brown bear hunt and i saw brown bodies but you're but that's a little bit it's a little bit different you're it's similar in that you're gonna want to want to kill a good foot type bear yeah and a brown bear is like you only really need one in your life yeah maybe two but you know what i mean if you if you shoot a eight and a half or nine footer you're gonna want to go shoot a big one again so you might as well just well and that's just wait that just one of those hunts that's just what happens when you got crushed with rain and you didn't have the option to move like you're pretty much stuck where you're at and yeah oh i know so anyway you spend just because my point i guess is it doesn't matter you spend the money you

go you spend all the airline all these other things doesn't just mean you're going to kill one no everything has to kind of align for you you know we talked a lot about the qu gear that i used on my sheep hunt and if you need to get a hold of them you can go to qu at kuiu qu.com or if you're in the field and something you know you're realizing your rain gear is a piece of crap and you want to upgrade and get something give them a call at 800-648-9717 they got a great staff there that can expedite something get it to you quick great gear just really essential stuff for mountain hunting no question about it you