EP 177: Brendan Burns of KUIU

our tree opener coming up it's a pretty versatile pattern obviously with a with a lighter nature and you learn what you can and can't get away with when you got a bow in your hands and you're just trying to sneak up on something on the ground anything to do with western big game welcome to the epic outdoors podcast powered by under armor hey everybody jason carter adam bronson chris peterson chris is at the keyboard makes us sound really good covers our uh covers our tracks but butts too yeah we ever played cover your assets it's a game game yeah no it's like a little bit of a card game and it's kind of fun anyway i've been playing that with the kids and wife digression trying to trying to get a little variety in my life other than just hunting so i play once in a while a card game with the kids and call it good i put it on the calendar too so we

all remember that i did something different than hunting gotcha all right well anyway it's august carter it's august what does that mean well it usually means stuff's gonna start dying in nevada august 10th archery opener coming up and they've had the archery animal pump a couple dive yeah we had one had a member send a great buck to us yesterday we're in the new qu pattern probably i don't know probably the first pattern i've seen i'm sure somebody's gonna correct me behind the first dead animal i've seen with that but there's but i think they had some prototypes last year seems like i saw schaefer kill the sheep with it but i'm talking yeah but he's in inside that's right you had he's had this for a year that's not even fair that's right him and burns could wear that they've had a pajama set for probably a year so we do need to let's call him let's find out

well yeah let's let's uh let's give him a holler and see what he has to say you know he's probably quarantined in bozeman he usually likes to go up north hunting sheep with him or somebody else and excuse you do you think they're making them go to california once in a while or just i'm gonna find out all right i'm calling all right mr bronson what's up man oh you know same old stuff how about you well i got jason and chris here doing a podcast we're just checking on you we were talking about first kill picks of the year starting to come in for the most part we had an antelope come in yesterday with the probably i know not it seems like the first kill pick with the valo he killed an archery not counting you and shafer valo sorry valo yeah yeah hard a let's keep it with a hard a that's okay yeah you gotta you gotta line him out burns all right yeah it's

all good that wasn't i didn't get that in the media kit so i didn't get that i didn't get the merriam-webster you know the phonetical pronunciation part of it so i apologize oh yeah probably a video video clip on it oh yeah yeah somewhere yeah actually the first uh was that shafer who killed something with it for you i know shafer wore it on his sheep hunts but i'm talking about non-insider we talked joke that you guys probably have had pajamas and briefs for a year now and that and valo you and shafer it's not fair because you guys are on the inside yeah that's right i'm talking a normal hunter yeah greg greg mikhail killed a bison with it and uh yeah we've had a bunch of stuff this spring obviously some uh my buddy will waldrip and matt forest how they killed three grizzly bears up in alaska they obviously not a lot of operators up there but they

they got a bunch of stuff done this spring and uh yeah i think justin had the actual first production uh production camo valo kill so gotcha well well how about we just want to fight this is the first antelope kill probably fall hunting season just call the first antelope with uh pine peak outfitters did a great job great buck you probably saw it on our instagram yesterday just kind of cool yeah i mean you're seeing it showing up and we will a lot more so yeah it's uh it's a pretty versatile pattern obviously with a with a lighter nature and a less contrast i think like this time of year i was going to see a ton of it so yeah actually uh greg mikhail's why i just got a picture of the day greg mikhail's wife just shot an absolute slob of a tall sheep up in the yukon to uh rub it to rub in the fact that none of us are out there yeah i was gonna ask you about that

like i know you've been up there a bunch i don't did you have anything planned this year or no for canada i i did i had a i had a hunt booked at uh in the yukon um and yeah it was just kind of a bummer i mean you start you start uh such a weird thing to have it like well you know we'll put it off a little while and we'll kind of see how it goes then it was kind of about for me it was about july 1st was kind of line in the sand time where it's like yeah kind of got a no and you know i mean i'm i can be pretty impulsive and i can be pretty react you know react pretty quickly to stuff but you you gotta have a little time to know when you're gonna when you're gonna go and and just kept headed further and further down that path and you know the um it's a real bummer for all those for all those outfitters but you know there's not really there's still not even a plan in place that

i can find that which you know it's it's it's kind of a bummer because it's like there's there's no plan to see those guys be able to operate it's not like if the number of cases hits this and if the u.s is doing this this will trigger this and this can open up it's just like hey we'll revisit in a month which isn't really a plan you know the month yeah a lot of guys live month to month and we're told that you try to get out from under that scenario right i mean that's what i was taught college but anyway no where are you at one thing before we called you you're are you in montana or do you gotta you don't have to go to california at all during this do you or i have not been to california since february and i honestly can't uh foresee with the travel stuff being in california in the next maybe for a long time so you know i've been i've got my obviously my office here and we're

on kind of uh like a lot of companies no no corporate travel just don't want to um and and you know what as the as the chief hunting officer and uh i don't really need to be down there that much anymore so uh it's been pretty good and i'm like you guys this is teaching in that time i want to spend that time scouting yeah well and this is i think teaching in your company but a lot of companies that are zooming and all the other things teaching them you probably i don't want to say waste that sounds like a harsh word and i'm not talking about qu specifically but we'll just talk about corporate america could be wasting a lot of freaking money flying people around to meetings all the time and i think it's probably going to change the way people do business a lot more like you can get a lot done sitting staring at each other on the computer hang up and go do and go and do

instead of fly in for the same meeting but anyway moving along with the more important stuff what what are you hearing so you heard from gregs why she killed a great obviously their residents up there you've got a big connection i know a lot of the guys have hunted like johnny and those guys jason and i were talking about today what a year can you imagine being a bc resident this year a sheep hunter bc resident and and would it be like it would be unbelievable i mean i mean i can't even imagine don't think don't you burns don't you foresee a free-for-all for the for the for the locals up there just being able to go and do and not have the competition of the outfitters and paid clients don't have the commercialization and you don't have to urgency of i better be kill this thing opening day before you know blah blah blah i mean it's just a it's interesting it's an

interesting yeah it's got to be it's uh and i don't have any super insight into who's going on i try not to ask because i don't want to know anybody if i know but uh yeah yeah i mean it's it's got to be a little bit terrifying for a lot of outfitters too just knowing that i think a lot of guys are in there watching their areas and and but uh no i mean i think a lot of the resident guys and especially guys that were normally guiding i think the bigger thing is like guys that were normally busy guiding are now um they're they're off for the fall they're hunting for themselves and so they get a chance to go in there and dig into where they've always wanted to hunt and this is the year they get one for themselves if they've got a little stash of cash that they can just survive you know if you can get

their money time of year it's a sad it's a sad deal as we've already talked about and covered but yeah that's a bummer i mean like guys like you you and me adam we uh you know i killed a doll obviously at ultimate truly last year and you were the year before so this is the first year in boy a long time in my life where like it doesn't matter what it like i'm not going to kill a sheep this year i mean i don't even have the option like i cannot go to alaska as you can and nwt yukon bc alberta all that stuff is closed down anything so yeah it's like unless some alternate tag phone call from a state comes it's not gonna happen yeah yeah i'll be picking up those nevada calls quickly oh yeah nevada arizona well anyway you guys are spoiled this is the first year i'm not gonna sheep hunt carter wow yeah where are we how far we come burns yeah i really would say

since about 2010 i would say this is the first year i won't be on a on a thin horn hunt uh or any kind of sheep hunt and you know even going with somebody else i mean obviously i'm not always hunting but even going with somebody else and yeah it's a real bummer for all those all those uh outfitters out there you know i actually just talked to glenda yesterday and you know they're they're basically just uh there's nothing they can do i mean it's it's it'd be one thing if it was in their control but it's totally like a lot of this stuff now you know like it's it's just a whole different world and it's totally out of their control you know it's uh being led by other stuff you know government out east and people were you know the outfitting is not really a huge priority how it affects people's livelihoods

it's giant to the people there but but to the population base of all of canada it's like a drop in the bucket you know what i mean it's not important it's quebec and montreal and we're in vancouver the population bases those are that's where decisions get made what what do you have on the schedule what do you have for hunts well i it's a pretty good year i mean obviously i i no one could have predicted our our current situation but i uh i finally cashed in my points in wyoming i've got a area seven tag uh for elk in wyoming which uh put those in my buddy aj kissle and i will be going out to uh out to wyoming and then after 29 years i finally drew a go tag in montana i think it's so uh i think it's for the last 10 years at least every year i've heard your gnashing of teeth every time the montana results come out it's been for about 10 years because you've had max points

which a lot of people do but it's still you applied before points even started like you just alluded and goats aren't sheep tags you've drawn until this spring you've drawn it drew a sheep i mean yeah until this spring i was 0 for 28 on between 1 and 4 and 1 and 8 odds yeah that's pretty bad luck yeah that's right people but you're gonna run into a guy when they see your picture with a dead billy and there's you're so lucky burns you know you're always drawing something and you have to just back him up a little bit say yeah burns is good at that yeah he'll square him up there's a guy from another i'm confident there's a guy that just moved here um you know we're we're local hunting company a competitor that uh first year in montana drew the exact same tag first year oh i think he's a resident one year if i'm 92 at the max so or is that early september what's your i mean i don't

know what else you got on your you got your unit sevens in september sometime for archery elk obviously but and then you're gonna wait a little bit on goat are you gonna go goat first i'm as soon as i find a billy that i'm after i'm gonna have scouting uh a few times not as much as i i would have liked so far but it's been really hot here and the other morning i was out i did a nine miler with my son the other morning and uh i mean they were bedded in the rocks in the shadows by 6 45 a.m so it's it's not a great time to see him right now but no i don't i don't really care about hair i'm looking for a great big billy if he's got more hair than a tennis ball that's fine with me like i want to get it done with my bow early and uh and enjoy yeah i've got a hunt that i've always wanted to do on this

one um i i'm gonna actually do it i'm gonna do one part of it next week and it's called the devil's backbone and it's a big it's about a 25 mile hike along this big ridge line and i'm gonna go look in all those bases see if i can find what i'm looking for and yeah we'll see so i'm i'm when the right goes in the right spot that's when i'm going down but i'm definitely not wait you know this this is the kind of country like every year guys wait like i'm gonna wait till they hair it up and not in montana no they didn't all of a sudden you're snowed out and you go in and have to slug nanny there's a reason some of those yeah there's a reason some of your units they they moved them from sept i drew we'll go in like 2003 i think the opener back there was like september 15th i don't know i went in the first part and now they're like they had a year or two that they had freak september

snows and so now it's like is it september five or one i september one yeah it's like september one with a rifle there's not even an archery hunt that's right it's september one with a rifle yep they're like we want you in and out we're done the research and rescue missions yeah we could call life what do you what do you guys got going what do you what do you have drawn that you're uh are you scouting sheep right now for hunters or we're getting ready been in nevada a bunch and it's been a hot miserable sucker but getting an inventory what's there carter's got 14 deer tags in about 14 states it feels like um but i've got a couple deer tags utah generals for archery deer that opens up a week from saturday so august 15th um we've got deer tag of course jason's got a couple of kids that they're hunting my boys first he's got a couple his kids one of them at least first time

can shoot a bow or hunt with a bow mine too and so you're showing them some bucks for seeing and they're like picking them out like that's one's for me that one's for and as if you can just pick a buck out like dad justin gets that one i get that one and sean can kill that one it's like just because you got them on camera or you glass them up pre-scouting doesn't mean they're dead that's right and i told my boy that i'm like you just you're gonna you're gonna find out what bow hunting's about because he thinks he wants to spot and stalk and you know and that's that's truthfully how you learn how to hunt but the bow in your hands as a young teenager or you that's how you learn how to hunt you really do it's how we learned how to hunt i mean not that you don't learn something on rifle hunts but man you you learn what you can and can't get away with when you got a bow in your

hands and you're just trying to sneak up on something on the ground it's it's absolutely that's the way you learn how to hunt so it's kind of that's pretty exciting having all those young guys yeah that is so it'll be fun we've got tags too and then uh you know a couple i i drew a goat tag i think i talked to you about it up in southeast alaska i've mentioned that on the podcast before and really excited about that yeah i'm jealous of that one i've been applying that one since uh about about 2003 or i don't know when they started that but yeah you should have hell yeah i mean those are literally the biggest goats in the world yeah that's a fact it is and uh you know i like i said a minute ago i i killed one in montana and just just kill the just kill the goat you know it was back when i was pouring rocks and didn't even i just did a shoulder mount you know goats if you kill a good

one kind of they lend themselves to a life size so i hope i just told myself if i ever hunt another goat i want to kill a big one and if conditions are right it may life size it so that's i'm looking forward to that i'm probably going to wait till end of september early october it's a little bit i'm really flexible um with when i go there but in and around some of my guiding and other hunts but got a utah there are some yeah there are some giants there i mean there are literally goats in that unit that are bigger than antelope that a lot of guys kill wow yeah there's some monsters wow and they're only spikes yeah not two yeah no yeah but so yeah we're kind of spread all over carter's kids got some an elk hunt in arizona and i got i got one for a family member here in utah that we're going to be a part of and we'll go to colorado deer that'll be a little bit later but

um in some regards making you know a little bit i mean i i don't want to poo poo a goat tag in alaska because it seems like it happens so long ago sometimes i honestly forget it was like december and in february you find out about it yeah i drew the first two tags i put in for this year and didn't draw hardly squat since so other than guaranteed draw stuff like colorado deer and things that you'd like hey i know i'm gonna get it so kind of a bit of everything a bunch of sheep i got i don't know 12 or so sheep hunters spread out and uh so i'll have a lot of fun on that so yeah but that's getting ready to kick off here in a few weeks too but speaking of sheep but i don't i know this is i don't want everybody listening to this to think hey this is old news or whatever but beings that we're in utah you were a part of a pretty cool project um with a

sheep transplant that uh you know for those of you that don't know in utah we have a have an island good size island in the middle of great salt lake that i've had california bighorn from uh camloops bc on them had them on there for 20 plus years and uh just due to the shrinking uh of the great salt lake in dry years you know there was land bridges that formed and likely had some rams that wandered off and came back or like i say rams probably rams but likely ran it off the mainland caught something brought it back anyway had a massive die-off on antelope island to the point that you know they they eliminated what was there and to start over and uh you uh you have some connections with the rocky boy reservation in montana and uh talk a little bit about that the transplant that you're able to do this last i guess we'll call it winter

it wasn't really spring january or something like that and we got sheep back on antelope island through some of the stuff you were working with with q and and the reservation the rocky boy yeah it was uh yeah it was a really cool project it was basically the first ever all company and customer funded privately done sheep transplant ever um yeah the indian reservation was over objective on their sheep numbers and i actually put the transplant together originally with uh north dakota and then we had a year where uh basically the helicopter couldn't get there in time to get to get them transplanted so it went an extra year and then obviously with the with the lamb recruitment of the next year and numbers increasing and we ended up with some extra sheep and in the meantime antelope island had died

off and jace taylor and i and travis jensen been talking back and forth you know for potentially down the road and we ended up with some basically some extra sheep so we took uh yeah 25 20 ewes and five rams to antelope island um they're obviously better far better genetics than what you guys have they're they're big rocky mountain bighorns totally you know disease free and uh yeah we put 25 back on antelope island they're doing well um right now like mostly ewes have had lambs and um it's been it was just an awesome project to put together you know that the the initiative's called conservation direct and it's basically just um direct company and customer funded um conservation projects you know there's a lot of things you can put your money into now and there's a lot of you know and some of

it some of it does a lot of good and some of it's kind of the same old stuff that's always been going on and we just i uh i just thought you know with our consumer direct brand and you know a couple times a year we want to get together and and with our our customers and as a company and actually make an impact and do something different so we we put 30 sheep in north dakota and two separate herds on uh lakes of cacawea on a uh reservation called the affiliates tribe so we took 30 there 25 or yeah 25 ewes and five rams to north dakota started two herds there and then took the 25 to uh antelope island so we put three new sheep herds on the planet that was uh again all 100 funded by kuyu and and and uh about 16 customers covered the foot of the whole bill plan the whole thing everything was uh it was an awesome project you can you can check it out on conservationdirect.com it's got

film all that stuff but it was really rewarding video really rewarding project yeah is it on your youtube i watched it when you put it is that you had a youtube video on kuyu's youtube channel about that it's pretty cool credits to the guys that funded it and it was it was awesome it was a well done video it's awesome yeah yeah it was it was a really fulfilling project you know it was one of those things where i i've always personally wanted to do one of those and it's like you know how hard is it to actually do a transplant and it seems daunting but kind of as we dive dove into it and i you know i worked on it for about a year and a half um and and um yeah it was just it was one of those things i mean there's a lot of testing and you know a few contracts here and there but at the end of the day like if you have a if you have an idea and and you've got a place that wants them and

you got a place that has excess sheep it wasn't that difficult it was just really cool to have the customer involved i said i made 16 phone calls raised over a hundred thousand dollars um we footed the entire bill everything disease testing transport everything that was like one we paid 100 of everything until they jumped out of the trailer which was uh yeah it was just it was cool to have our project it's not like oh we got together with a thousand different organizations and stuff no we we just did it and it was uh it was super rewarding and and now you guys have some tremendous genetics on antelope island um the tribe was able to get rid of excess sheep and there's two more sheep herds in north dakota with superior genetics to what they had and uh you know it was it's really one of those win win win win situations everybody uh it was a real plus for everybody so

can't uh yeah super just just an awesome thing to be a part of had 34 people show up to to help out we staffed the whole thing uh aside from obviously the biologists and everybody that was the professionals that were there um it was just it was just cool it's cool to put your hands on some you know i'd never touched a live one before um you know it was just it was just pretty cool to the you know collar and you know work on those sheep and get them ready to go and some of them i've been watching for a long time and uh yeah it was just it was a really cool project yeah it is well we appreciate it too as uh you know we'll see how big they go because carter and i are both in the rocky drawn utah and if they're giant we have to pick species in utah in the once a lifetime realm as residents so we both drawn deserts and so we're both in the rocky pool now and we did grab one we did grab one

really nice ram and actually doyle moss had sent me a picture of him he's got must have the deer hunter out there he's got some cameras out there and he was when we caught him in february he was uh i think 32 by 15 and a half as a three-year-old so um he'll be uh that's as big as a lot of rams get in parts of utah and wyoming that's right yeah he's big as a lot of guys maxed out he's maxed out for utah he's bigger than a lot of the you know middle fork salmon sheep that ever get killed in idaho places like that well congratulations good good work awesome yeah i would appreciate it awesome and uh what else anything else we got to cover i mean we just thought we'd call you kind of out of the blue we're all everybody's stir crazy we're just ready for the hunts i know carter and i were just like if once we get hunting we don't we don't watch the news and i mean when we're gone

a lot we're just it's it's the routine we look forward to the most but we're also out of touch the most with maybe some of the crazy crap so we can just go be in the hills and be in our camp trailer and hunt so how many i mean like how many cameras are you guys running right now to get like you every day you're out i assume like this rare office day uh well we had to scale back we switch like adam will go i'll go so we switch like you know every other day you know we each cover for each other today we're in the office together but nevada's uh now nevada's got trail camera law you got to pull them down by august 1st so both of us had to pull those down by last week for deer and sheep and so that frankly now we're still back to like some utah stuff manly yeah we're still i mean you still go out but it's just not as much for cameras and then is that affecting is that affecting

stuff quite a bit is that kind of a kind of a bit of a change mentally it's a huge change for guys like like even the outfitters too like it's it's something to know that deer watered last night or the night before whatever he's still in the area but if you go you go a week or a week without seeing a particular deer you know he's watering at night but you don't know that he's watered at night like that affects you mentally but if you know he watered two days ago or last night or the or three nights ago it keeps you going or your water goes dry and you know you're talking about some of these are little seeps and natural springs they're not all big where'd he move to like where is he miles or two miles or whatever and or whatever so yeah it's overall it will it's it saves some animals we like run it's

but it's but i like that the law like i like we don't mind it yeah i mean there's it's easier there's stuff living because of the law there's no question yeah there's a few deer that'll make it you know and so that's good that's awesome it'd be nice to feel like there's 250 buck out there 260 buck out there and in nevada rarely produces one of those but maybe that maybe they will maybe there'll be more of them get away you know what i mean yeah well it's like it's funny it's just you know we we just became legal to use them and uh yeah they're there it definitely takes them it's funny because i think everybody thinks they will help everything and you know like myself i got about six or seven of them which obviously isn't much and and i uh i'm incredible at taking pictures of cattle like i'm just i can't believe you're good i could run i could run some kind of a uh angus sales

ring with the photos yeah you got every angle hindquarter flanks front shoulders neck i mean you got i've never gotten a picture this is last year i i had a bunch of them we had a lot of water and stuff but i never got a single picture of bull elk on camera in a month yeah no and this has been unusually dry down here so it's a little feels a little bit they're more confined but some years like and that's what you know trail cameras on arizona strip or place like that when the monsoon rains start hitting it's all it's over for scouting like arizona's talked about it uh you know making them to where you can't use them and i mean that would dramatically if affect some of these drier it would it would change people's lives you know i mean deer coos deer mule deer elk i mean these guides are running lots and lots of cameras and hunters too and and it just it lets them know what's

in the area you know and it's yeah big help it's huge and especially in the area arid stuff i don't know what you guys got montana wise i just maybe it's not as effective i don't know yeah well and it's it seems like mountain states in general like you might even say colorado i i mean you know or wyoming i mean i can't put out salt or even bait yeah in colorado so you got water but there's a lot more water there than in nobada so you're not going to trail cam water so you're trail cam and trails right yeah so i don't know burns you guys use salt up there what's your law on that no can't do any of that stuff or anything you got a lot of water so yeah yeah yeah i don't think i'm gonna run them for i don't think i'm gonna run them for goats i think i'm just gonna run glass he's the first guy running cameras for goats a pinch point a three a three foot gap in the ledge that you might just

hope one walks by it'd be kind of cool you should take it on as a personal project yeah get a bit get a goat picture on there we'll publish it in the mag later this fall awesome take one take one on your trip throw it in a spot right some natural i'm looking i'm looking forward to it and yeah it was funny i took i took my son up the other day like i said we did a nine miler which you know when you're eight that's a that's a long that's a long walk he kind of hit the wall at the end and he was asleep in point zero seconds in the car but he he got it done so it was it was pretty pretty fun to uh take him up to saw his first goats live and so yeah it's a good time awesome yeah it's the overall good time and well you're you're not far off in a month or so away from hunting elk and goats both you'll kick off a couple big hunts right out of the gate so that's

awesome we just want to call and you get caught up on that and yeah maybe the state of the union address for qu how are you guys doing and and overall plant future plans and then your your personal job responsibility looks like adjusted slightly oh it's been good you know like uh you know being consumer direct i mean we're kind of built for this i mean people are at home using their computers um we do have a showroom which was shut down for a long time but um i think we launched um you know obviously the launch of velo was right in the middle of the covet thing i think we were probably the first brand to to really put out a big initiative right in the middle of it all and we just said hey we're just going to stick to our plan and do what we do and um and things have went really well with it obviously and um yeah i mean we're trying to keep everything normal um obviously there's there's a

lot of corporate stuff that has been affected by it but uh you know we got a really great team and um and a lot of us have been working remote for a long time so uh you don't be able to kind of help everybody else with the i don't know if you guys have been in zoom hell but there there are people that don't know how to have zoom meetings and so you got to kind of get them lined out that um this is a two-person yeah two-person i always i've told a couple people like hey man a two-person zoom meeting that's called a phone call just pick up the phone yeah or if you got an iphone you need to facetime me because you got to hold up something just facetime yeah something like that it's like times anyway well that's awesome well appreciate you spending a few minutes with us we may call you again in a month or so or if we're back and got a minute and get caught up on some good luck on

everything burns you got a lot going on you'll kill a giant bull for giant billy i'm sure you're what do you got after that you got just i think i think my odds are my odds on the uh on the elk and the billies are both uh 50 50 either will or i won't there you go and then you got montana generals after that i guess your elk that'll come at some point later in september yeah i'm gonna bounce back and forth between wyoming and montana they're they're actually not that far away the place that i'm looking at some new country that i'm gonna hunt so i'm gonna be bouncing back and forth and then in the middle uh and i have i'm going moose hunting the last five days of september with lance up there they uh they gotcha yeah so it'll be that'll be a cool hunt it's gonna be a real short hunt up north or the stuff down south cinder up north yeah yep he hopefully somebody's killed out

it's already scheduled so i'm showing up on around the 24th through the end of the month and it'll be uh it's actually a really cool moose hunt i'm looking forward to it because it's you know usually it's too hot i've killed six alaskan moose it's usually too hot it's always kind of like down to the last days where it's not that great and so this when i show up the last five days it's either going to be awesome or it'll be normal and we won't get like yeah it's it's just usually the last couple days when the weather cranks up the rut the rut really gets going good and we'll either get it done in five days every one and um but it's not you know a huge time commitment especially having these other tags so uh and that's about it for the fall i got a crazy basically through october 10th i'm pretty crazy and

after that i've kind of calmed down so might be a different winner for you too i mean we got the announcement the other day that the wild sheep foundation is postponed or canceled whatever the right word is the sheep show and they're working on the details of how that's going to look what that's going to look like they've promised they're going to try to be really uh you know i guess accommodating accommodating for you know exhibitors and you know attendees of course all that whatever that's going to look like but that may happen and i could see that happen with a lot of the shows so you may you may spend a lot of the winter in bozeman that's what i'm i might take up trapping yeah well all right yeah you guys have a good one you too man called well we'll get caught up again it's kind of a crazy during the fall we say we're going to call you in 30 days or 45 it may not

happen but we will talk about what you did and killed and all that here at some point later in the fall okay so if i don't pick up you'll know how it's going that's right that's right all right all right take it easy all right guys hey talk to you yeah have a good one yeah bye bye so anybody that's interested uh you can go to q you check up their new lineup the velo camouflage we appreciate brendan on the podcast what a great guy they've done good work they're in the hunting community so give back you can support them by supporting them you know you're supporting hunting we appreciate them go to q u.com k u i u.com you can check it out the velo ve ve excuse me v a l o camouflage and you can check it out and go from there we've got guys killing stuff using their camo it's obviously working antelope they're freaking hard to kill you don't stock up and yeah kill an antelope with a bow

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i've been finding nothing so far but i've got a couple cameras out been been working hard but good still nothing to write you excited huh good no well hopefully that changes i've got bucks for bucks for my kids that they'll be very happy with and they don't like me to say that because they think i'm holding out something big like what do you mean bucks for me i'm like well you know you've never killed the deer at the bow we got to just hunt every nice little buck i want a buck that dad would shoot he's like no i want the one you say you want i'm like oh yeah but i don't know if i can even kill that one because you know i've got a couple let's get started you know what we ought to just give him reality check and let's go get started i think opening day i'm just gonna go for it he's gonna it's gonna we're gonna have and i'm just gonna wait

till he says uncle because it's got it's coming when he says uncle we're gonna go shoot the bucks we're gonna go sip water in a boy and we're gonna wait we're gonna have treats and capri sun because they don't make noise in the can that's right you don't have a pop can open you just there you go anyway all right it's gonna be fun okay everybody appreciate you we appreciate q you thanks brendan for all you're doing for conservation hoping to see more we'll go from there