EP 172: Engagements, Trail Cameras, and Hunting Trucks

So, where I was, there was bucks with kickers, everything. Have you got a truck yet? No. I can only do so much in a Chevy Malibu, that's all we're saying. Biggest deer in my life in the Fort Torres. Anything to do with Western big game. Welcome to the Epic Outdoors podcast, powered by Under Armour. Hey everybody, Jason Carter and the Epic Outdoors crew. How are y'all? Good. Oh, yeah? How good? Got the whole crew here. High 80%, I'd say. What was that little 80%? Should have done that intro on Cinco de Mayo, Carter. What was that? Hey, I don't know. Dude, the monster's just now sinking in. Not supposed to drink these. Sean told me, my kid told me he's got some kind of little drink that he's mixing now. It's got him totally off the energy drinks. That sounds perfectly great. It's kind of like double the caffeine and CBD or whatever.

The tag was to get you to quit doing nicotine, right? You know, I mean, anyway. So, he's like, Dad, I got an energy packet that's got me off the energy drink. And I'm like, good job, son, good job. I mix it in water, and I take it with two no-dones. He's like, it fires me up. It's awesome. And I'm like, I wonder what's in the packet. I went somewhere else with an 18-year-old kid mixing drinks. Yeah. No, no, not this kid. No, no, no. Wyatt, no. So, anyway, I'd like to thank Under Armour for sponsoring this podcast. Appreciate them. They got some new clothes coming out. Looks like maybe mid-July is generally when they come out. Pretty quick. Yeah. All right. Well, it's been a while since we've met. I guess you guys, we've sold, what, four or five sets of optics today, and you guys think you can have the rest of the day off, and everybody's in the podcast room. Huh? It's better.

The dust is settling a little bit from the membership drive, from a lot of the draws. Arizona cards have been hit. There's a few people that are anxiously wondering what they drew, first or second choice, should know any day. But for all intents and purposes, the results are in. Yeah. And either you have tags or you don't. The large lady's warming up. Okay, okay. It's about over for draws. Is that what you're putting That's what I picked up. Is that what you put down? I get it now. I'm following it. You're a large lady. It's time to take the edge off a little bit, what I was saying. So, we did talk to the guy that won the Ackma hunt. He called when y'all were out at McDeath. That was just last week. Our 15 minutes we had. Jason gets after him. He says, hey, you got to be back here in 12 minutes.

And they look at themselves like, we're gonna get mocked for going to McDonald's today, because that's the only thing I get there back in 12 minutes. It's so funny, because Wyatt's so predictable. He knows where he's going, and one day in the last 326 days, he went to Mickey D's. He happened to tell us about it. So, you're gonna ride him for the next 340 days. It did happen to be a deadline day. There's gotta be somebody there that told me he was a good guy. I don't know why he would go to Mickey D's. It just happened to be a deadline day, and it was the place with a quick drive-through. There you go. The line was the shortest. I'm guilty of that, too. So, where did you guys go? We hit Subway. I think it was Subway today. Oh, there you go. Eat fresh. That's right. That's good. Anyway, he called, super excited, couldn't thank us enough. We had posted and emailed

our guys about the potential for getting your name in the hat. So, anyway, it's all about names in the hat. He bought a couple of tickets. One, super excited. We're way excited to see how he does. He'll be writing a story coming out in the Epic Outdoors magazine. So, the results are in. How does everybody look? How's your schedules look? You guys have been busy. You got a weird look on your face. What do you mean? Well, he only looked at me in life. Why have Devin been busy, Bronson? Well, I don't know. What do you mean? Well, Devin's run a small trap line of trail cams. That's right. Devin, let's just pose a few questions. What have you found? We are Stealth Cam dealers, by the way. It's that time of year, too. Those are flying out the door daily. Fusions. Whether it be Fusion cell phone cameras, or regular video or photo cameras, give us a call.

45 Pros even, a little cheaper one. That's right. 45 Max 2s, 45 Pros, lock boxes. 4K Maxes. 4K Max, Fusion, AT&T, Verizon. Gotta have service for those. All that. Fusions. Yeah, some people think that they make their own service, so they tap into a satellite system. They don't. They've got to have service. Well, Wi-Fi works. You think it'd work out in the hills? Yeah, check it first. Anyway, but I digress, but that was a quick plug for Stealth Cam. Back to you, Devin. What have you found is one of the most effective techniques when you've got a high-traffic area or an area where you know something important is going to happen? Well, you want to make sure you capture the moment. You got the Chris-ing and crossing going on. What's your set up look like? You're cameras on one tree kind of thing. That was me, yeah. Is that what? Friday. Two on one? Friday. Tell us about it.

So, what was it over a Salt Lake? I mean, what was this gathering that was going on? Just a little meadow. Just a little meadow. What did you call it? A grove of trees this time? Yeah, it looked like it. No, I asked my girlfriend to marry me and figured, you know, I knew where I was going to do it. I had it carved in a quakey tree. It's private property. It's legal. Part of it, right? Leave it alone, all you haters. You'd done just... It was totally legal. Part of it. You didn't finish the initials. No, I got thinking, I'm like, how cool would it be to have it on video, you know? So, I got cameras. I got those new... Well, I had some older G34s, and then the 45 Max. So, you did your own little test of all the different models. I set up six of them in 15 minutes. I wouldn't... I was kind of in a hurry. Yeah.

She was distracted. Settings maybe could have done slightly different. Trigger distance and all that. I put one on the crotch of a tree right by the tree, and it could about see up my nose is about all you could see. At least you could hear me. The end result, did you have some incredible pictures and video? A couple good pictures. Video was okay. You only need one or two. It's like a money shot with your buck. Yeah, you got us walking up, you see me on a knee, it worked out. Nice. Pretty impressive, boss. Was there some models that didn't work as well as others?

Well, but you're crisscrossing different distances. Well, they're pretty much all the same. I just didn't do the distance. The distance on video was not enough. You missed your ex, right? What? Oh, yeah, I set up a grant. Oh, I thought you meant his ex, Y. I put a log there. Whoa, whoa. I'm like, whoa. Sorry. Missed your ex? He's a proposal? That is true. I had a... My brothers helped me for a minute. They're like, you gotta go right here. And I said, well, put a stick right here. I was like 10 feet over. Oh, you were off center. Well, the tree said, marry me, question mark, and it had a heart. And she walks up, she's like, this is... Somebody carved a heart in this one, you know, so I had to run over there. Where? To the tree. I missed my tree. Show me the tree. I know, what are the odds? Really? That was my great grandpa. She had no idea, so it was cool.

But the video, you know, it worked good. That's awesome. Pretty impressive. Yeah, we're good. We got a picture of it on our Epic Optics page if you want to see what we're talking about. Yeah, I missed that. Awesome. Yeah, they can be used for a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff. Home security systems in a pinch around the house for kids or people in trouble. You know, you were wearing a sidearm. I'm just wondering if you used that to coerce or anything. He said it. Real man proposing camo and wearing a sidearm or something like that. I didn't even realize. I was a little nervous, you know. I made sure the ring was in this pocket, had the knife to carve the tree. Begs the question, if she had said no, what would have happened? Well, he had one in the pipe.

It's just, it all went well. It makes, I don't mean to tell my story, probably you or you either. Mine's boring. Mine's way boring. Compared to that, I had no doubt. Well, I've had a lot of alone time and years to think about it, I guess. Like, I love this spot, you know? Yeah, it was, I've known I was gonna do it right there since I was a kid, probably. So, that's awesome. Pretty awesome. So, how long ago did you carve in the tree, the merry-go-round? About a year, year and a half? It was like last June? Just the heart part, and not the initials?

The first time I was running cameras last year. You had the D in a heart or something like that. So, you knew, and you kind of knew maybe it would be her, right? Because you've been dating. Oh, yeah. I knew. It was a better banner. But you didn't do that until last week, the final initials. Yeah, the final initials. Sweet. Put the initials in there. Tell her to carve it in. Lock it in. There you go. Lock it in. If anything bad happens, I'm cutting it down. Bad windstorm come up, and it's gone. It's gone, and there's a new tree. A new heart. Yeah. Well, okay, let's see. What have you been up to?

Oh, geez. You been shoveling? Shoveling, yeah. Honeydeer, I guess. That's what you guys call it now. Wyatt's taken up what we call him a green thumb. He's been doing some gardening and stuff, some landscaping. Yeah, I don't know about gardening, but a little bit of landscaping. Really? What for? Oh, geez, I guess for an upcoming wedding, too. Really? Who's wedding? No, I also got engaged recently, too. Wow. There's something in the monster around here. About a week before, Devin.

Yeah. Geez, pretty amazing. So, we're teasing Wyatt because he's- You know what's interesting is they get solid jobs, and then the women come in and want to tie him down. I'm seeing a correlation there. No? She's got a pretty solid job too, so maybe I was looking at it. Maybe it's worked the other way around. Okay. All right. But the funny thing we're teasing Wyatt is yeah, he's, you know, with this COVID and stuff, he's got to do outdoor, well, maybe it's not just because of that, but doing the reception or whatever that can be. Be called now in the backyard. So, you got some landscaping in it. You're in love. Call it a protest. You can have more people there. I'm gonna come to protest the wedding. Bring a sign and I protest. I'll all be welcome. We're waiting for that line, speak now or forever hold your peace. We're gonna just... I don't think she's good for you. I'm here to protest.

We can bring in another 250 people. Here's a little gift in case you want to go ahead and go through with it. So, that's pretty awesome, you guys. Well, how did that go down? Tell us your little engagement. My little story? Yeah. So, I don't have any plugs for Stealth Cam, but I can plug Jason's wife's business. There you go. The science. So, anyways, I kind of had something planned up around her hometown, and then she ended up texting me the night before about 1130 at night saying, hey, we're loaded up and headed to Lake Powell. Big curveball. Yeah, which is her favorite place on earth. Really? Her favorite place on earth. Similar to Devin's Meadow. And it's hardly ever I'm awake at 1130 to see the text message. They're leaving that night?

Right. Or the next morning. Yeah, they just said, we're leaving the next morning, going to Powell. We just decided. Do you want to come? And you're like, well, this is kind of your birthday weekend. Yeah, yeah. So, birthday weekend. Did the father-in-law know that you were going to propose that weekend? He did not. No, no one had an idea. But you had asked him, right? Yeah, I had talked to him. Yeah, the weekend before, I'd already talked to him. I asked for permission. Skids were greased. He liked that, so it was all. He gave you the one eye. Did he lift one eyebrow? I'm like, listen here, son. It was a, I don't know. I was pretty nervous going into it, but it was actually pretty.

Pretty good talk. I mean, it was... Did you have your sidearm on? No. I went in unarmed. Archibald, that's pretty good. Snakes, lions, bears, you never know. Yeah. I went in unarmed anyway, but... So, then she texts me that night, tells me, you know, they're going to Powell the next morning. So, I know the ring's supposed to show up at the office the next morning, too. And it's the Arizona deadline, of course, too. So... And Jason and Adam, they take off to a shooting school. That's right. He leaves the office unmanned, basically. Just got me and... We had to do some brainstorming of the curveball at Lake Powell. Yeah, so there I am, like, we're pretty slammed. So, I tell her, like, I don't think I can make it over to Lake Powell and play it off, like, I don't think there's anything they can do.

And, Jason and Adam are gone. You know, just, office can't handle it without all of us gone, you know. They need somebody. Just like it needs me right now, and I'm in a podcast room. Somebody's gotta be here. Anyways, ended up talking to her. The ring showed up at the office, ended up kind of throwing a plan together with, you know, Jana and the girls here at the office a little bit, what to do, and headed over towards Lake Powell as I was calling her father and trying to get him to... Say, where are you guys going to be camped? How can I raid your camp, set up some signs? It was 40 mile an hour wind. We get any details? And yeah, it was just windy, windy, windy. And anyways, uh, as I get over there, I kind of, you know, six... I, of course. Before dark, he kind of figured the wind's gonna die down, and I end up sitting over there in my truck for about two hours, just nervous as can be. Well, Janet says all you did was pace the office. She's like, I've never seen Wyatt like this. I can say I haven't either.

Well, they're big moments, boys. Both of you. Both of you are a little bit out of your comfort zone for the last two, three weeks. Well, nobody should be comfortable asking women to marry him, because that means it's happened too many times. That's true. That's right. So, anyways, get over there, and finally, like, we've got about an hour before dark, and her dad texts me, and he's like, hey, I just sent her out on a boat ride. Like, now's your chance. It's white capping. And it's white capping. I'm like, they're not going to be gone long. And you're like, oh, jeez. So, I drive down in there and get everything kind of set up, get the signs, everything like that. These signs, it's not just a sign on a sheet of paper. This is, you're putting them into the sand, individual letters. Yeah. And I've got hearts. Big letters. She's a family there, a lot of family there.

So, I've got a limb kind of helping me, and we're just barely getting it all kind of situated and lined out, and they texted her like, the water's just nasty. We're coming back. Oh. So, you've got to spell it right now, because now you're going to misspell something. I'll misspell her name. Yeah, taping them together too, so the wind just doesn't blow them away. She's coming by, and I've got a dozen roses in my hand as she comes rolling up. The roses are just getting blown away. I'm surprised there was anything but not just stamps left. It was pretty bad. She got the picture, though. Yeah, she rolled up in the boat. She says, that was the scariest boat ride of my life. By the way, what's this sign? Yeah. What? What? Yeah, no, so it worked out. Pretty good.

And then everybody on the beach, everybody's cheering you on. Yeah, even the people from the rez next to us, they were clapping and yelling for us. I mean, there was a lot of people on the beach that day, and everyone was kind of sheltered. Probably because, yeah, they couldn't be on a boat. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you two guys are... You're destined to have a lot of interesting moments from now on. Didn't know how to say that. The large woman came out easy, but I couldn't know what to say right now. Oh. Awesome. So, but anyway, congratulations. Thank you. Both of you.

We like your gals, and it'll be fun, both of you talking before hunting. That's the other question. Yeah, they're talking before the bulk of the hunt. So, August-ish, I don't know when that is, date exact. Very soon. But that gets you going before, you know, you can't have an anniversary in the heart of... No. It's hunting season. No, it's just not going to happen. Didn't you do that, Jason? No, yours was the first week of August, wasn't it? Yeah, but I left August 10. I had August 10. Yeah, but that was a doll sheep hunt. That doesn't happen every year. In Alaska with no cell phone. Remember, this is 94.

I know. No cell phone, no in-reach, no nothing, and she couldn't believe that I left and never called her. For 10 days. Never called her. You got married and left. Yeah, I got married on the 2nd. I was hunting in the field on the 10th, so you gotta leave around the 8th or 7th. Anyway, she's like, and he never called me. He left me. He never called me. And I'm thinking, yeah, there's no phones. There's no landlines. So, anyway. It's like Wyatt was talking the other day of setting a precedence or something like that. What? It's a good precedence. Oh, yeah. What were you talking about, Wyatt? He just fall on the lead of Carter. No, don't do that. Do not do that. Wyatt's saying, you know, you never prepped me for... Anyway, did you end up... You ended up... Well, you were going to run trail cameras this last Saturday. What did you end up doing? I ended up up north, shopping for a suit. Yeah.

Because fitting. Wyatt's like, you never warned me, but she says I got to shop for a suit in the next 12 hours. Exactly. Was that...? I had no idea that all this stuff would come along. Pictures. I figured it could all be done on my terms and anything like that, but no, I got told what to do the other day. I'm like, do I give in? Like, does it set a precedence for the whole marriage? Yeah, Wyatt, and he asks in front of Janna. You know, Jason, I'm just wondering, do I give in or am I setting a precedence? I'm looking at Janna and I'm looking at Wyatt. How much do I get pushed back? When do you push back and when do you not? I don't know. I think you're doing good, Wyatt. Welcome to the rest of your life. You give in right now this early, I mean, is it like that forever? Let's talk about those things when Jana goes to lunch with the girls. She's not here now.

Why do we have to do it in front of her? Geez. Pretty fun. You'll do fine. I don't know, did you guys tell them that you had some hunts lined up before you guys got engaged, or are they helping you align your hunting schedule for this fall? I put Miranda through two seasons already, so she's sad. They've kind of known. She's solid. Both of them know. That's good. They know what they're getting. My wife didn't know. I mean, she asked if I was a hunter, and I casually just said... Your story is pretty funny. Yeah, we've already gone over that. I'm a hunter and a gatherer, possibly. I love to provide for my wife and kids. I'm a provider. I provide. Something like that. That's how it went. You know, when we talked about it, it was either August or next spring. Yeah, it's like... It's time. I tried to suggest that. Pretty much... It's not gonna work. Yeah.

No. It's either August. In other words, it's August. It's either August or next spring, and basically, she said, it's August. Yep. And you said, I get it. I get it. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. I know. I get it. Yes, ma'am. Good answer. Wow. Well, congratulations. Good luck. Want to wish you the best. Yep. Gonna be fun. Chris, where does that leave you? Where does that leave us? Oh, just listening.

The three Bachelors are normal. He hasn't said a word. No, Chris is silent. Chris is just working the keyboard. I got a lot of technical stuff over here, guys. I'm plugging and playing. I have a feeling Mackenzie's listening too, Chris. She's very interested in your response. Go ahead. Go ahead. I think there's some levels off here. You want to see? Just some volume. I don't know. Jason's track just got muted. Jason's gone. Can't blow any secrets. That's right. Oh, yeah, that's how he's gonna get out. Hey, guys, I can't... That's a good answer. I'd tell you, but I'd have to kill you. Can't reveal any cards at this point. Well... I can't diminish the surprise. That's right. Well, Chris, you did come out with a little YouTube video, your music video. Yeah. Yeah. Incorporated the love of your life in that thing. That's pretty impressive. Had fun. Yeah. Filmed that back in May.

Did ya? Yeah, finally. That's a quick turnaround, I think. Where can we go see that? On my YouTube channel. Your YouTube channel. Diehard Cowboy, the link's right there in the profile. Easy way to do it. Go check that out. Go check it out. Made the USA. Made a few honeys sad. Lost 10,000 female followers. But hey. Okay. All right, guys. Moving right along. We're a hunting business, let's talk about hunting. That's right. Well, we've talked enough about these three bachelors. We had to go in, we had to, this is the first unveiling. So, anyway, any of our listeners or members of the call, now you'll know that, give some, when you get these guys on the phone, give them some words of wisdom. Feel free. They're gonna need it. Most likely. So, what else we got to talk about? We got a new announcement from Swarovski. Yeah, we did. We'll talk about that.

We did. In fact, you guys, we were running, we were out scouting, John and Adam and I, for our hunt winter. We've got a mule deer hunt that we're going to put on in Nevada from back in the winter membership drive. By doing so, we missed the new announcement with Swarovski. You guys were on the horn with him. Tell us a little bit about it, Wyatt. Devin? So, they come out with a new pair of binoculars. It's supposed to be better than the ELs, I guess. I guess not necessarily better, but a step up from the ELs. I guess that's the only way to put it. ELs are amazing, but you're supposed to have a wider field of view. They're going to come in the 8, the 10, and 12 by 42 power. Binos. NL Pure, that's what they're calling them. Different shape to their body, supposed to be able to fit in your hands really well, so a guy can hold them real steady.

And they also have a headrest thing that can plug right in that's supposed to help with stabilization as well. Probably on the 12 power, I would say mostly. I mean, I can't imagine using stabilization with 8. I don't even use that thing on the BTX. I don't know. I think it'll be a personal preference, don't you guys? Yeah, definitely. You could put a rubber band all the way around. Yeah, just suck them to your head. But hey, we are taking pre-orders for those. Those will be be able to receive them and ship them by around the first of September, but we're taking pre-orders for them now. So, if you're interested in pricing and things like that, we're very aggressive on that. Matt, give us a call, 435-263-0777. It's exciting news. If you want to see a photo, there's a post on the Epic Optics page. It has a picture of those, so you can see them and check them out.

Basically, same body, 8x42s, 10x42s, 12x42s, same body, different powers. And then, I guess they have 20% more field of view, the color's better. They say it's off the charts. They say when you, remember how we had the SLCs, and then you go and look through the ELs, and there was a wow factor? Remember those back when the ELs first came out? They said that's what you feel like when you look through these. The NL Pures. We'll see. Pretty exciting. Yeah, kind of cool, super excited about it. Of course, we'll have some of the best pricing out there. We will. For sure. All right, so anyway, that happened. What else? What else we got going on?

Was there any good stories from setting cameras for the hunt winners yesterday? Anything we missed out on? Well, a lot of stories. Well, about a 4 a.m. cannonball run, smash and grab, that's bound to happen after you eat a sandwich, and you're not driving, so nobody's life depends upon you nodding off. Thankfully, Carter kept us alive. Yeah, woke you up a couple of times, John, drifted a couple of times. Yeah, a couple of times. It's all good. No, pretty uneventful day, other than just getting a lot done. I've been more nervous in your car before. You know, that was easy. Makes me feel good. Yeah, that was a good day. No problem. It was a good day. Yep. So, anyway, appreciate the tire company for those tires, John. They definitely kept us up on all four. They kept us out of the ditch. How about that? Grabbed. They grabbed just in time. Yeah, they did. There was a sharp core.

Sharp corner. John was... They grabbed just in time to turn us and keep us safe. John's clicking the seat belt just to... Yeah, anyway. Alright, so yeah, lots of fun, lots of change going on here. You know, one thing as we're getting prepped for the fall, one of the big purchases and things that goes through our mind, A, we're in the truck, what happens when you need it? You've got to load your truck with gear. Load your truck with anything and everything. But you also have to have a truck to put gear in. And that reminds me, Bronson, has Aaron bought a truck yet? No. And what we talked about on that podcast a month or two ago, three, whenever it's been, it was right when... Figuring he wouldn't have a truck until September 2nd when his first hunt is September 1st? Yeah. And it would probably be borrowing your truck?

Or borrowing your truck? Yeah, or my dad's, because dad has two. When you know dad's got a couple trucks, you're safe. You don't need to buy one. No. And lots everywhere, if you're noticing, are depleting. Okay, and if you listen to our podcast, did we not warn? We predicted it. We warned you. Yeah. We're very in tune with the vehicle market. Let's see if he's made any progress. Just a plan. The funny thing is, we've talked to other people. I mean, I think Kevin Call from Arizona, we all know Kevin Call, Hypo and Outfitters, he listened to that podcast. He happened to be shopping for a truck. And so, he reaches out, because he hears Aaron how methodical, I'm going to use that word, different from another word, methodical in his search. Discriminating. No. There's another word. I like that word. Yeah. Yeah.

So, anyway, he used all of Aaron's knowledge and went and he found one in New Mexico and bought it and returned and told us about it. He told us about it. Listen to the podcast. Found a steal of a deal on a 19 Duramax. Bought it. And tells Aaron about it. And it's basically the same truck Aaron's looking for. I mean... And Aaron continues to use the wife's car. Okay, let's call Aaron and see what the heck, what his plan is. He could scream these now. We've done this one too many times. Kind of like Jeff. Hello. Hey, I found a truck for you. It's a 1970s Highboy. You ready? Highboy?

He's got 35s? It's been four months, we're checking back. Have you got a truck yet? No. Have you got a plan? I don't. My plans have all gone through the window. They're all out. What, are they sold? Or what's the deal? Trucks are at a premium right now. Oh, there we go. With the shutdown, they're at a premium. So, yeah. So, when Adam and I on the last podcast talked about the possibility that the lots would be empty in July-ish, are you finding that to be true? Did you think we were crazy at that time? I didn't think you were crazy. I'd been hearing the same thing, but no, it's true. There are no more trucks to buy. They're not empty. No, because you can go out there and find one. Oh, you can find one with rubber floorboards. Yeah. Yeah, like a base model or something. Or they just, like I say, they're at a premium. Even the used ones now are fetching high dollars.

I really shot myself in the foot. Yeah, because there's no like, oh, can you work with me? Well, no, I can't, because I got four guys behind you that want the truck too. So, I really shot myself in the foot. Seems like we talked about all these problems. Seems like we talked about these. I did not. No, you did not. They went without saying that. You guys made me look like it was going to be my fault, because I was picky, and it had to have everything exactly right. Including being priced at $10.

10,000 below Boat Blue Book. No. And owned by a widow. Yeah, owned by a widow, garage. No, I'm not even being that picky. Driven four miles a month. So, now, what's your fault? Okay, it's not your fault you don't own a truck. So, now, let's move on. What's your contingency plan? What's in the crosshairs? Maybe our listeners can help you find some. Maybe Adam needs to buy a truck. Where are we at? No. Yeah, if Adam can find one down there, then yeah, we'd be fine. I got a power wagon right down here on the lawn still. Adam did buy a little Toyota. I know he's got three now, so I'm sitting pretty good. Here we go. There was the plan. There's the plan. He already knows the contingency plan. There's no urgency. If you want my help, you need to provide a vehicle. If you were riding the bus to work up there every day, I'll bet you'd get a truck found.

I probably would. Well, what do you narrowed it down to? You still back to diesel, Chevy, Duramax? Is that where we're settling on? I'm pretty hard on the diesel. Yeah, I am. We've already talked about the other guys that listened to the first podcast, went out and found the same truck you're looking for, and they didn't have a problem buying it. They just bought it. Hey, they're closer to New Mexico. He found his in New Mexico, by the way, and he's a lot closer than I am to New Mexico. So, he got the jump on me, I guess. And there was probably only one in the western U.S. It's not. I guess we're painting a picture that it's that bad. It's not that bad. If you have deep pockets, you can go buy a truck. He's just got to have a kill. It's everybody's fault but Aaron's. I'm totally with Aaron. I'm totally with eBay. It's part of my fault. KSL doesn't exist. Totally get it.

So, if you remember, my truck, I keep them for a long time, so I do kind of want to get something that I'm going to have for a while, unlike you two that trade them in like... Okay, you don't have to get angry. You don't have to get that person. One truck on my carter, I've lost track. What I think is hilarious is, Bronson, you look at the Chevy ZR2, Aaron looks into the Chevy ZR2, he realizes that's the most amazing little truck that's ever been built. You buy one. You love it. You continue to love it. You continue to own it. Aaron never buys one. Next step in life, I need a new big truck. Need a new big truck. We think about the power wagon. We see the power wagon. I've had a couple of them.

Aaron says they're the most amazing big truck ever built. In fact, Aaron thinks he would like to find one for himself. So, we each bought one. We each bought one, and Aaron continues to look for one. I still have no truck. Never buys one. Now, he's back to a Chevy diesel. Which we've never owned in our life. You or I. No, never owned it, and Aaron can't find one. And Kevin Call and everybody else who listened to the first podcast has already bought one, is enjoying it, and pre-scouting. And pre-scouting while I'm doing nothing. If you guys would run a truck before the tires ran out or an oil change before you got a new one, maybe you'd understand. Why the hell the personal attacks? That happened to one truck that just didn't fit us. We had sciatic nerve problems. Toyota coma? They didn't fit, guys. They didn't fit full grown men. That's all there is to it. It just didn't fit right.

Anyway. Well, we just wanted to call and get a report. I didn't know how close we were. I know it's a sensitive topic. It's a sensitive topic. I didn't know where all the hate's coming from. There's no hate. Do you got a receiver hitch on that Chevy Malibu to hold it side by side down? I guess I can do that. Get a four-wheeler rack on it. Obviously, that wasn't part of his contingency plan. I guess I'll just leave the side by side on the mountain, and then I can just drive down to it, I guess. Leave it chained to a tree. What are you going to tow the boat with? The Tahoe, wife's car. Is it four-wheel drive? She's been... Oh yeah, the Tahoe is good to go. That's a plan. So yeah, we always got that, and I can tow the side-by-side with it, and she can take the mail. So we're in contingency, but I'm trying to buy a truck. Don't trust me. I hunted out of a Ford Taurus for a couple years, so...

It can be done. It can be done. See? You're giving me hope. It didn't even leak, right? Rainstorms, you slept in, it was fine. Nobody even knew I was hunting. You've given me hope. You've just told everyone to look out for a Chevy Malibu now. We were always told they make new trucks every day, Aaron. They make new trucks every day. Just go buy one. They haven't for four months. It's like the first time in history. It is different time. Different times. Well, good luck. Now, let's say you did buy a truck. We were going to talk about some of the things that you put in your truck, you know, So, you know, the shovel, handyman jack, some of the different things, you know, the inverters, I don't know. What are some of the things that you put in your truck? I mean, you're one of those detailed guys. Those jumper packs have been nice. I've used them.

Oh, yeah, you've got to have a jumper pack, you've got to have some chains, tow rope. Aaron's big on the winch that he's got a front and a rear receiver hitch. He just keeps it in the bed of his truck, so you get stuck on the front, put it up there, pull it out. Mostly for other people. It's for other people, but yeah, that's good. Well, on that, where do you keep it? Like, it's a short bed truck. You know what I mean? If you're putting a four-wheeler in. When I go out for the weekend, I'll just put it in the receiver hitch in the front. When you're going out. No, I put it in the receiver hitch. In the front. Okay, yeah. All right. But it can go front or rear or anywhere. It's kind of nice. Yeah, it's kind of nice. Yep. You gotta have a firearm in there somewhere. Devin always packs a sidearm. Talked about his engagement picture. He's wearing QU packing heat, because he's on one knee.

I saw that, and he's packing heat. I saw that. Well, I think it was to force her to say yes. A little persuasion. Taking control of the situation. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, I guess. Command's authority. That's right, Seth. Starting this relationship off right. Well, we'll check back with you, but I can't promise when. It might be December, because we're gonna get busy in the fall, and if you don't have a truck then, there'll be nothing to report. But when you buy one, I'd love to hear about it. How good a deal. You stole it from somebody. You stole it from somebody. No, I didn't get a steal from anyone. Probably a little unsuspecting grandma out there that's gonna get taken advantage of here in about two weeks. Well, and I want a front bench, too. That's kind of a hard thing to find, a front bench. Well, it's got six seat belts, right?

That's what you're looking for. Yeah, it is, but that's... Every little layer, every layer though, you add them all up, and he's looking for a unicorn. That's what he's looking for. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, a lot leather. And you know, every one of them are charcoal, but you're gonna want tan, because it's gonna hide the two specks of dirt to get in it. No, I don't care. I don't care. It can be any color interior. I'm not that picky. I'm not. You would take a red interior. They don't make them, so I'm pretty safe there. Yeah, you're so dumb, Jason. They don't make those.

I've had red interiors. I hate them. Maybe not new age. Well, in 88 they did, but they haven't been used for a while. Which model and make in 88? Dad had a Z71. His Z71 had one. Red. There's nothing like a red interior that pisses you off. Red does it to you. It's either light or dark. Red has caused many Americans to be angry. I don't know if that's true. That's why they stopped making it, apparently. We're on the lookout down here, but in fact, if we see one, we're just gonna put five grand down and write your name on an IOU and hold it. Yeah, hold it for me. All right, sounds good. Just trust us. We'll do good things. Well, I apologize for all the listeners out there that have to go through this. Why do I hate? Geez.

You know, just give us a- I would like to collect a little bit of money from him, Adam, because we're going to find something and he's not going to want to make good on it. Yeah. Get a deposit of some sort. He's going to say, you know- It's not going to have the spot up there above your head that you put your sunglasses in right there. Right. That particular year, they reconfigured the interior. You're making me out of something that's not- No, that particular year, they reconfigured the interior and I don't have that little pop-down sunglass holder. A built-in garage door opener. I've got to use an external device that'll open the garage door. No, none of that matters. Like, I'm not that picky. You guys have got me pegged as something looking for a unicorn. Okay, he's not that picky, but I can't find one. Okay, in the western U.S., I cannot find one.

We could find one. It'll be a GMC. I'd buy it if it was a Chevy. Yeah, Chevy's look better. Tell me about the resale on GMC versus Chevy. What's the difference? It doesn't matter, does it? It doesn't matter. They're both good, and I'd take either one. GMC isn't as good looking. It just depends. Sierra versus Silverado, I don't know. Take your pick. Depends on the lock washers they used that year. It's got a red interior. All right, we'll leave you to it. Get back looking. Go to KSL.com. Have you looked at KSL today? Oh yeah. Have you? Yeah. Every day, he's got alerts on his phone, four times a day. But I've also got people in the industry that are looking, they're the one helping me out. Well, so you guys were looking for a boat in what year? Solved up. How long did it take to find a boat? And that's, I'll pipe up here. See? Part of that problem is, I've driven trucks my whole life.

You know what you're after in a truck. Boats aren't. You don't know what you're shopping. If you've never jumped into the boat world, you're in for an education. It's endless. Endless. Models makes... Floor plans. Years. And they don't... Anyway, they're endless. Engine drive combos. Yeah, trannies. Everything's different. Fuel tank capacities. Everything. Yep. Deck boats, regular boats, ski boats, wake boats. Glad that's over with. Yeah, that chapter's over.

28 months later, you guys are well. It wasn't that long, but it was a while. It was easy. It was too easy. How long ago did we buy boats? Two years. Two and a half? Two and a half? I wasn't looking right then, hard. I would say three months on the boat. Three months. We looked last year for three months hard, and then once you get to midsummer, you better give up, because everybody's got their boat midsummer, they're using it, and then they're gonna get rid of it in the fall. All you're gonna do is winterize it. That's right. Stop looking for two months, then the clock starts over. Yeah, that's what it is. These guys looked for two years, John. Oh yeah, two and a half years. No, we looked hard for three months. Congratulations. What grandma did you take that one from? Good family. Good family. Good family boat. Good situation.

Yep, perfect. Kids all hate us from that family. The parents didn't want to sell it. The kids were mad at the parents for selling it. Oh yeah, they were in trouble. Yeah. Yeah, they thought they were cleaning the boat out to go boating that day. They had the clits, cleaned it out, and then they found out they were selling it. They got so mad at the parents. They're over there. Wax on, wax off. All the Miyagi moves, they were doing them all. Day after day. And then they just said, hey, we put it on KSL and sold it in two hours. There's no backing out. We didn't exchange names. No. Yeah. So, Aaron, I'm gonna keep an eye out. I'm sure I'm gonna find what you're looking for.

Give me the year. Chevy, GMC, and Duramax, four-door shortbed. 18 or 19? 17 to 19? What years? White, gray, green. What color? Yeah, just light color. Either silver, white, just light color. What year? 18, 19. You'll find one. There's some out there right now. What's the problem? They're a little high priced. They're what? They're a little high priced. Buy 500 bucks? No, probably five to 10 grand, probably. Yeah, they've got you by the throat. Then the new ones, I'd really like a new one. Those new 2020s are awesome. If you know the 2021s are going to be amazing, too. Well, if you order one right now, it will come as a 2021. Because, mark my words, 2020, you're going to have a collector's item, because A, they didn't make that many. And if they're making them right now, you're getting a 2021 on the order.

So, 2020 is going to be hard. Aren't they going to do that trail boss in a three-quarter ton in about 2022? Something like that? Probably five. I haven't heard that. Well, something we talked about coming in 2022. I'm not going to wait for that, if you're getting to that. So, you say 18 or 19, but you would take a COVID-2020? Yes, COVID-2020. I would take the COVID-2020, but there's... I mean, you know, you got people that are infected with the virus working on the truck. You probably got a lot of lemons in 2020. I would think so. A lot of turnover in employees because you got to work your 40 and you got to get out for two weeks and then somebody in. Retrain them. Non-continuity on this truck. Retrain them. That's the truck I want to collect. That's the truck I want to collect.

Isn't there some draws coming out or something else that you talked about? No. We've already talked about that. The large ladies men piping up. Everybody's got their plan. Aaron, you got a plan? No, he's going up to Alaska, aren't you? You and some buddies? Caribou Moose? Yep, we got a trip planned. We've been in the Macon for about four years, so we're hoping that even goes through. Don't eat a truck for four years. Four years! I don't know what we're to say. We should talk about his gear list one of these days. It'd be interesting. 99% deep, not 98. Oh, man. You were really painting a bad picture of who I am.

Well, so that's going up there. Chris, you got some work to do on this one, buddy. Oh, I'm aware. I would say you're methodical. Yeah, that's a good word. And I like it. We've talked about that's a positive quality because, you know, when we want to buy tires, we've talked about it all before. We just call Aaron, find out what, he done the homework on it. Well, methodical is good. I just, I'm going to keep it for a while, so you just don't run out and buy one. And ah, that's six months, let's buy another one. Yeah, that's a good point. That happened once. And in Carter's defense, he's buying used trucks for five to ten thousand to use hard for a trail camera season and then getting rid of them. And that's different, yeah. Yeah, it's not like he's, you're giving him us kind of a both bad rap there. I did it once on a new truck. I put 220 miles on that last truck. 220,000. Yeah.

And it was at 260. It had 40 on when it got it. Perfect. Good. Well, and I think that's great, but if you go two or three years of your life without a vehicle, you know, Two extreme months! What's your enjoyment in life worth, Darren? Two extreme months. It might even cost you a deer or two. I just don't, I just can't even wrap my head around it. Can only do so much in a Chevy Malibu, that's all we're saying. That's it. Chris, or a Ford Taurus, Chris, or whatever that was. I killed my biggest deer in my life in the Ford Taurus. Did it go in the trunk? Front seat. There you go. I wasn't putting that thing in the trunk. He's gonna ride shotgun in the front seat of a Taurus. For a Taurus, I mean, did it make it home without a stop to the service station, or to the mechanic shop? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it ran good. Did it? It ran like a champ. It did? Oh, yeah.

Seems like you ran it off through the sagebrush out there. I did. I did. You were like, yeah, it was kind of wild. It was real wild. I think that was back when you were before Monster and when you were dating. Before texting Hart. That was before Monster. Yes, it was before Monster. Yeah, monsters save our lives. Well, sounds like you guys are about to wrap it up. See you later. So, when I say, no, closing comment, hey, Epic's got your trail cams and optics, but no trucks. No, I'm gonna lend you a truck. I'm gonna lend you a truck, Aaron. Yeah. I just want it back in the same or better condition. Oh, it'll be better. It'll be better. Lend them one of your hard...

Oh, I've got a Ford F-150 2000. Not that one. It's a tough truck, Aaron. It will not leave you stranded. I spent the day in it yesterday. It's a good truck. We only drifted a couple times. Got some new skins on it, and it saved our lives. Tire company hooked me up. It's pretty awesome. All right, guy. Have a great day. Good luck with KSL. Let us know how your shirt goes, all right? Sounds good, guys. We'll talk to you in September. All right. Okay. All right. Bye.

Come on. You're like, why the hate? We just called to mock you for 45 minutes. Yeah, that's a good point. You know what we should do? We should post that exact truck on KSL and see how long it takes him to call us. Oh, dumb. We should do that. Why? Hey, go down, just find one in a Walmart parking lot, take a couple pictures, don't show anything identifiable, no license plate, and just say, hey, COVID hit us hard, we got this thing 42.5. And we can use a number that he doesn't have. We'll plug it in. And we'll see if he even calls. And if he doesn't call, we'll know he saw it. We know that he's too picky. And we're gonna call him and say, why did you not call on that? And we could even say light interior, light use, non-smoker. Who's gonna field through all the calls until he calls? Text only. It's a lot of work, but it'd be worth it.

I want to sell this to somebody within Utah, only four, three, five numbers only. Some funny stuff. Well... What else? Chris, so what do you guys... Chris, what did you put in the Ford Taurus when you're out hunting, thinking you might get stuck? What are some of the things that you'd put in the car? Well... Kitty litter in the truck. Wait, wait, wait. I can answer this. I've changed it up a lot since then. He had a wire in the trunk to open to Jimmy the locks, because you locked the keys in it so many times. So, he went and got his own Slim Jim. I think I actually did that more when I had the Toyota, because I put it in the bed. But I had a... Don't put a spare key in the bed. I'm going to put a Slim Jim in the bed. Don't you have that in your truck right now? I got around the bed of my truck. A Slim Jim? A wire?

Just a wire in case I had to pop the door. What about a spare key? Have you ever thought of that? It's eight feet long and has a hook on it. It's not just a wire. Guys, they make spare key holders with magnets. And they're hidden. People find spare keys. People know how to key.

You'll never find it. But they don't look for wires. They look at a Slim Jim, A, you gotta know how to use it. B, you gotta know what it is. Yeah, it just looks like a big wire, and they're like, I don't know what that is. It's like a switch that you used to get spanked with. They ain't breaking in. Speaking of which, if there was more spankings nowadays, there'd be less looting. Let's be honest. Tell us we're wrong. So, let's finish about the gear in the Taurus. You said it's changed over the years. Well, from kitty litter to what? No, I was saying it got a lot better. It got a lot better when I got the trucks. When I started. Oh, I can imagine. I've been through three trucks since.

Yeah. But yeah. Oh, I always... What does better mean? I always said I could just more. I don't know. More cans of beans? You got the whole back seat, and it just feels like that's just a cargo. In a car, those are seats. People got to sit there. But in a truck, it's kind of like... You got saddles. You'll find something back there that... Bridals. Yeah. What bronze? You could live on for a week. Oh, I used to say... A couple MREs kicking around. I mean, who knows? I used to say I could live out of my truck for two weeks. Yeah. MREs, old ketchup packets. On the floor somewhere. What are those? Uncrustables? I had some of those in there for a while. That'll mold, Chris. According to Wyatt, they gotta be frozen or refrigerated. He is a connoisseur of uncrustables. My boy, too. My boy thinks you can't put them out of the freezer, and I'm like, come on.

I mean... It says it on the box. I know, but come on. Always keep frozen? Yeah, and I will say, at the office here, I put them in the fridge, and then back in the freezer after Wyatt told me, they weren't the same. This comes from a guy that can taste the difference in water. Yeah. Jana says arrowhead's the best by far. She doesn't even... Somebody else said that. I think that too. I said it too. Alright guys. We've got to talk about some form of hunting today. Well, Bronson? I mean, no. What are you going to do to augment your hunting schedule? That's a great question. That's a great question. There's not many options. Idaho sold out. I'm in for some dream tags in Nevada, some super tags in Wyoming. The rest of my year is contingent upon statewide raffle tags. You know what's getting down to the wire when Bronson says, how many more raffle tag drawings are there?

I was like, oh, I don't know. I don't play a lot of money, but you got to have a name in the hat. We say it, we preach it, but that is where I'm sitting. And what I've got is what I've got. Started off pretty good, drew a couple of tags way back in February, and it's been a dry spell. Well, and it has been dry. The last few months, it's been dry outside. Dry. Which has kind of matched what you're drawing. Unlike you, Carter, you've got a six pack of deer tags. Six deer tags, two antelope tags, and an elk tag. That's not even including my kids. I'm done. Tapped. Ow! I mean, you're gonna have venison bottles stacked into your house. I got kind of a random side note on this. It has to do with hunting. So, I compared photos from this year and last year at the same time. Where? And the deer are way worse this year as far as development. They look like they're two weeks behind.

And I don't know if anybody else is seeing that. On your trail cameras? Yeah. Last year, I had deer that were splitting four points, and this year, what looks like another mature deer isn't quite there yet. I'm just wondering if this dry... I don't know. Anybody else seeing that? I haven't been grinding deer yet. I have not found a buck on one of my hands. I found a stag and a bunch of does. Okay, okay. Things are looking rough in a couple places. Could be just the desert too, where I was. There was bucks with kickers, everything. Four points. Where? Where? Squeeze me. Up in the meadow. Oh, yeah. Magic meadow. Yeah, I was at 9,000 feet. Yeah, I mean, it's just a little different. Kickers? Prove it. Where are they? Kickers, yeah. He's trying to sign. Everybody expects me to be totally transparent. Wyatt does. And then Wyatt and Devin, when you talk to them, silence.

This is the family property. You know where we're talking. But I mean, he doesn't even hunt it every year. If you have a special deer once in a while, you maybe get a tag. I don't think I could hunt. I couldn't hunt this deer anyway. Totally makes sense. Family property, you can't hunt there, totally get it. Well, they lease it. He's not the one calling the shots. Oh, lease it out. I could hunt it. Yeah, I can hunt it, but... I like having auctions. Okay. All right. We'll see. Depends on his general season deer in Utah, if it's better. Wyatt, have you seen these bucks with cheaters? I've not seen any bucks with cheaters. Have you even heard about bucks with cheaters? I'd heard he saw some nice deer. I don't remember. I think he didn't mention cheaters. Did he? Yeah. It's not that big of a deer, I'm telling you. Wyatt, where are you sitting?

Mate, I'm sitting on a couple trips out, nothing to report. You guys are going to Alaska, too, and then you got a general deer tag. It's... Yeah, pretty bleak season. I'll probably end up taking some clients or something to fill the fall in. Getting married. Yeah, getting married, that kind of stuff. John, you've done pretty good. Done pretty good. In draws, you have. You've accumulated some stuff, you and kids and wife. Mexico elk. Mexico elk, and a bonus draw. Chris, remind me. I got a few. I got... Colorado deer, Utah deer. Yeah, that's pretty much it though. A couple Colorado deer. A couple? You can have more than one? I don't know, you said couple Colorado deer. No, I just meant a couple. A couple tags. Colorado deer, Utah deer. Oh, I also drew the Kansas. I don't know 100% what I'm gonna do on that.

Really? I didn't know you applied. Yeah. Yeah, I applied for the muzzleloader tag in Kansas. September? Early? But I don't know if that's gonna happen. See if that fits. I might end up going in later on the muzzle. Did you hit the mule deer stab with it? No. No. I want to kill a good white tail. Well, let's give a shout out to a couple of sponsors real fast before we wind up. Chris, I think you have a bit, you got an announcement. We're coming into the 4th of July weekend. Let's give something away. Let's, you know, do something optics-wise, things like that. You'll tee that up in a minute. Another one of our sponsors, MOA Rifles. Appreciate them and their support of us here at Epic Outdoors. Great shooting rifles. If you're looking for, whether it's a lightweight mountain rifle, you know, sheathen, or a rifle, or a rifle, or a rifle.

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You should have one on every door panel. They make an incredible sandwich, they gut stuff, they're awesome, we love them. All right, fellas. Chris, what are we going to do? What are we going to give away? Rolling into the 4th of July weekend. For the 4th of July weekend, we're going So, we're going to be giving away a brand new riflescope. This is a Zeiss Conquest V4 3-12x56 riflescope. It's going to come with the rings, and we're going to give that away. The deadline for entry is July 5th at 11.59pm, and we're doing that on Instagram. So, to enter, you're going to follow both accounts, epic underscore hunts and epic underscore optics, and then you're going to tag two friends in the comments, And that will get you entered to win this rifle scope. And we're gonna, like I said, do that. It's gonna close on the 5th, and we will draw shortly thereafter.

This isn't a chintzy scope. This is a V4 Conquest. Like I said, 3-12x56. It's almost taken off. This ain't in conjunction with Zeiss. We paid for this. Yeah. Like, we paid for it. Epic is giving this away. Go on there. Go on Instagram. It wasn't a promo scope. This is just go grab something off the shelf and do something fun for 4th of July weekend. Create a little buzz. That's right. And put it on someone's gun. And the rings, huh? Yeah, and the rings. I don't know whose idea it was to give away 700 or 800 bucks, but hey, here we go. Let's do this. The 5th, 11.59pm, Mountain Standard Time on the 5th.

Okay. All right. Anything else? We good? Everybody happy? You two newlyweds are happy? Newly engaged? Huh? I think so. Got the rings bought? Rings are bought. Are they paid for? They're all... That's a good question. Are they bought? It's one thing. Are they paid for? Yeah. Boom. These guys have got their ducks in a row. 45 years old, you'd think they would. All right, fellas, we all wish you the best of luck. Have a great Fourth of July. God bless America. Don't loot, don't riot, we'll see you on Monday.