EP 204: Wrapping Up Your Applications

What's on the front burner? Talking about kind of the exciting time of year. May, we've got results coming in, and we've also got the final applications being due. You have to be able to prove you can shoot three of five shots into a four-inch circle. Anything to do with Western Big Game.

Welcome to the Epic Outdoors podcast, powered by Under Armour. Hey everybody, Jason Carter, Adam Bronson, Chris Peterson. Of course, we've got the whole crew here. Josh, how you doing? Good. Wyatt, how you doing? Good. Good, Devin. Great. Great. Wow. Couldn't say good. We had three goods in a row or something. It's a Friday. So what can be bad about that? Friday. A bunch of deadlines do. Well, these guys are thinking yard work, Bronson. They're married now. What'd you do last night, Devin? I dug a trench. Broke a couple PVC pipes. I didn't know we're there. Hashtag dad life. Thought I hit a real important pipe, but it was a rock. Oh. Oh. Yeah. So you got the Christie's hot mix and the stuff coming back out tonight? That hot glue glue. I'm going to Home Depot tonight. All right. Well, good. Well, when you actually get an account there, then you know you've got a problem. Yeah.

Well, that's good. Hey, you're getting it done while it matters because come July and August, you don't want to be fixing sprinkler pipes. No. You want to be hunting and scouting. Well, before we get too deep, we want to thank Under Armour. We appreciate them and all their support here at Epic Outdoors. So thank you, Under Armour. They've got the great gear. Wyatt, you deal with a lot of their gear and kind of run a program or two with them, point man, head that up. What do you expect for when new gear are coming out? Yeah. They have a lot of new stuff coming out. We've seen some of the prototypes here at the office. Just kind of been browsing through them, looking at them. Looks like some lightweight pants, maybe some heat vents, a few things like that. So pretty cool changes there. You figure in July? Is that what you're figuring? That's kind of what they're saying, July.

So we do have those 40% off codes available on our website too. So there's a plug. EpicOutdoors.com. All right. EpicOutdoors.com. So we do have those percentage off cards. Is there any trick to those, Wyatt? You'll just find it right there on our homepage. It just takes a little bit of information. Name. Type it in, and they'll send you over to your email. Name an email, and they'll send it over to your email. It's kind of good for about anything on their website, isn't it? Yeah, it does. For the most part. Name, email, and all your applications and units where you've applied this year, and you should be good to go. Social security number, date of birth. User IDs, passwords. Throw it all in there. Phone location. Blood type.

No, we're all joking about that. Very painless. Name and an email, basically, right, Wyatt? Yep. 40% off up to $2,000. You'll just use that at checkout on the UA website. Don't get confused. This isn't something you're going to walk into a retail store and use. This is on UA.com. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. All right, so cranking. What's on the front burner? Front burner stuff, stuff that, I don't know, Bronson, Idaho sheep, goat, moose, that's due today. Yeah, we're talking about something that's not going to matter for this podcast. I know, but I'm still excited about it. Yeah, I think that's why we're talking about it is there's light. There's light at the end of the very small narrow tunnel. Well, we just finished our June mag covering California and Arizona. That's kind of a significant cover to have that over with. Yeah. For all of us.

I mean, it's writing, it's researching, it's calling biologists, it's checking stats. I mean, we all take part in that, and this first six months, it's a grind at times because it's coming out as fast. At the same time, you're fielding calls from members and servicing them like we like to do. You're getting a few draw results out. We're applying a lot of our license app people. But now a big dimension as far as the new state mags, that's on pause for a few months until we get points only and some other stuff. This is when our life begins. You know what I mean? I know Cinco de Mayo is a big day in Latin. Or is that just Mexico, Chris? Is that Cinco de Mayo just Mexico or is it all Latin America? Anyway. Well, I can be wrong. Uno de Mayo is a big one for Epic Outdoors. May 1st is always like it. April 30, May 1. That's right. I mean, we're frolicking around the office here.

We got May and June. We put them out back to back. So we got the May issue out. We just barely got a hard copy in. I don't know that I've seen mine in my mailbox. Have you, Bronson, yet? I didn't check my mail today. And then June, June you're going to have here in about a week and a half, which is what Bronson's talking about, that covers Arizona and California. So super exciting. The one thing that's not so exciting, Bronson, okay, we've done about, what, let's call 15, 18 years worth of magazines, okay, over the course of our history in the Epic Outdoor world. And so every one of these that comes and goes, let's call it May 1st, April 30th, every one of these that comes and goes, you know, reminds me how close we are to death. Don't say it. I thought I was going to say don't say a foot in the grave, but you did. I'm telling you, how many more of June ones do we have?

Or June magazines and May ones do we have? Wow. 20? You're a Debbie Downer today, aren't you? I don't know. I'm just saying each one that comes and goes, I'm like, hey, here's another one. Here's another one. Kind of like the wrap up of a hunting season. Here's another one. Here's another one. How many more do I have? It's on everybody's mind. I'm just going to say it out loud. Okay. But also on everybody's mind when hunting season ends is what I can't wait till next season. That's more of an upper instead of a, is this my last hunt I've ever been on in my life? Are you saying that about writing magazines? Can't wait. Yes. Well, I'm not. But, but. That's my point. Yeah. So. It's a grind here at the Epic Outdoor's office. Dozens more. How about that? Dozens more with an S. Anyway, kind of interesting as you get older. And I think that's what we've been talking about.

Kind of the little mantra in the office is, you know, be careful what you want because you only have so many left. Make the best of it and do what you want. Yeah. Don't let. Apply for what you want. Yeah. Don't let a hunting season get away from you for whatever reason because you're too conservative in the draws or not aggressive enough or don't plan well enough. And you just apply points only or for the only the very best of the best and you never get drawn. And just be involved and don't be, don't be afraid to midstream. Don't apply for points only when you're applying for sheep hunts. Yeah. Don't. Things like that. Don't do that. I think too is like if you want it, like make it happen. If you, I mean, if you want it, make it happen. Yeah. And change it up midstream.

I mean, for me, even this year, you know, some of the extreme, you know, dry weather we're having in states, which a lot of us here hunt, you know, Southern Nevada, Southern Utah, maybe Northern Arizona, where if you get a lot of deer points there, that drives, has been driving a lot of my application plans. The last couple of years. And it's, I'm kind of not planning on that this year, but with, for certain reasons, the drought being the biggest one in a couple of those with, or I'm top heavy on points. So shift it up, talk about other States, you know, we, you know, talk about Idaho. Some of us are going to go up there on the general, something different, maybe Wyoming's in my plans. I'm going to do some different things like that. I think this year, don't be afraid to, yeah, just alter it midstream and say, well, this is not working or I don't have anything.

And that stark realization can set in and you've got a few States left. Maybe we can run through kind of the next 30 days of what States you do still have an option to apply for. And a lot of results that are going to come out too. Yeah, I agree with that. So we got Arizona coming up and because we talked about Arizona in the June mag, and it's kind of, you talked about California quite a bit. And we've been discussing these right in the magazine. You know, it's been on our mind about everybody hauling water to some of these sheep guzzlers. And, and buck doe ratios, Josh, you dealt with a few of the biologists and whatnot. What are you, what are you hearing? Yeah, it's kind of, kind of mixed and it's several years compounded in some areas. You know, we think back to what 2018 was a pretty rough year around here, especially. And, and kind of in the West for drought type conditions.

And so really, if you have a bad year, like 2018, it takes you into now, you know, we, some of those bucks that should have been born that year. Maybe they're not there now. So there could be lower. And so as we continue to go that way, I think some of these agencies are trying to look ahead at some of that and say, hey, you know what, maybe we're not going to have as many bucks in future years. And so they're going to try and watch or decrease some permit numbers and that just to try and get ahead of it, which I think is, is awesome. And it sounded somewhat across the board. And same thing with, we had a lot of fires and different things that are going on. And, and then Bronson, we, we were down there on the Kaibab. I mean, there's things we're seeing like, you know, it's one thing I get excited about burns, but when you have no moisture following up a burn, it's still black.

Look at these burns around town. You got one out towards you. I've got one by where I live. There's not a, that didn't do one thing. And that burned like the 24th of July. I know it's the way it was on the Kaibab. And that went through a winter. I don't, I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of years that they burn in the, in summer and they start. Greening up. Greening up immediately because there's enough there. And there's, this has been eight, nine months for some of these that haven't, it looks black. So a little worrisome. And, you know, I think maybe all of us to some extent look and do different things. You know, when I say north, I just mean, it feels like the States, you know, Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado. Go north myself. They just aren't, they're not having, they have a grip in the middle of, I know you folks in Wyoming are saying, hey, it's dry up here too. Yes.

But what I mean is you didn't have a heavy winter and some of your summer range units aren't, just like high country of Colorado, aren't drought sensitive. Drought sensitive like the high desert areas of southern Utah, southern Nevada, northern Arizona. That's right. Which there's nothing over, you know, five, six thousand feet. That's right. It's burning up all year long. Having said that, we would take a tag in Arizona if we can get it. So it's not, yeah. Where? Yes, I would. A couple places. Are you going to put me on the spot? Because I'm going to put you on the spot. No. Well, I already told you. I'm probably putting in the points. I've already told you. You are not. You are not. You are not. Well, I won't, but.

But I'm not applying aggressively. I'm not. So, all right. So June 8th is our Arizona deadline. It is coming up, like you alluded to, Adam, talking about kind of the exciting time of year. May, we've got results coming in, and we've also got the final applications being due. So we're going to be applying for sheep, deer, and then we, you know, bison point. Are you going to put in for a designated cow bison? Probably not. I don't want somebody in my truck. Do you like people in your truck? No comment on that. You knew that was coming. Speaking of trucks, Wyatt, you're looking for a new truck, aren't you? Yeah, I've been looking for a little runaround truck. Today, it's an F-150. I didn't even know where that was coming from. Well, Carter's been running a couple of them, so we've got a guy thinking a little bit. I have a Toyota in my backyard. Yeah. Yeah. Try to sell that on this podcast.

It's in the backyard for a reason. I thought, when I heard Wyatt talking, I thought he was going to sell his Tundra for an F-150, and I'm like, wow. Wow. He's read some forum about that year of Tundra must be the worst one ever made if he's doing that. But this is for a secondary runaround, scouting, don't rack up the miles as much on your other truck. To avoid a side-by-side, more or less. I don't like the thought of a side-by-side. Really? Yeah. There's a lot of dust in the side-by-side. Dust, yeah. I just feel dirty. I've got a truck like that for a while. I've got millennials at Bronson. They're weak. I might be, but I like comfort. It's okay. AC, radio. It's not just any radio. They're saying AM. He's on satellite radio. Serious? I'm sure you guys are on serious as well. Is it the dust or is it the sun? Just put some sunglasses on. Look at everything. Just put some sunglasses on.

It's the wind. It's the dry wind. It's the dry wind. Goggles or sunglasses. I choose not to. Goggles. Some people wear masks. I don't.

Well. All right. Speaking of, didn't you tell me? A fun fact about Wyatt. Yeah. No kidding. I've never seen him wear a pair of sunglasses. Have you ever worn sunglasses a day in your life? I have at Lake Powell or fishing. I did in Montana when I was fishing, but normally every day. Are those those? No. I don't wear sunglasses. How do you do that? How is that possible? There could be a foot of snow, sun. I love sunglasses. And it just, I don't know how you do it. I don't know. I guess I just never did as a kid or growing up. And being a guide, you know, you need sunglasses because you don't want to be looking into somebody's eyes all the time. You know what I mean? It's nice to have sunglasses. They can't figure you out. If you're lying, they can't tell, which you most always are. You know what I mean? In the field. In the field. It's different in the field. Yeah.

I just, I guess I didn't. That's a fun fact. Didn't have them growing up. What's interesting though, his tent, you can't see. It's not legal in Utah. The level of tent that he has in his truck. That might be part of it. That's part of it. And I hate it. You do? You don't like it that dark? Let's strip that tent. I can't see stuff near as good out of it. Let's strip that tent. I feel like it's getting dark. Especially probably at dusk. You have to roll the window down and be cold. If it's getting dark in your eyes, if you roll the window down. Your shooting light's different when you're riding in that truck. It looks different than when it's in reality. It does. Most definitely. Yeah. It looks good for the truck. Like, aesthetically pleasing, I guess is what you call it or whatever. Is that why you got it? Or did you have it put on? I did have it put on, yeah.

One of my brothers, or not one of my brothers, my college friend's brothers, had a little tent shop and asked me if he could do my truck. And I said, yeah, sure. For all you listening, Wyatt's looking for a little runaround. If you got one, he's buying. F-150, year 2000, right? 99 to 2003. Is that what you're running? Yeah. Well, I mean, that's what I ran. Before you know it, Carter will be trying to sell you one, and it'll be the best truck he's ever owned. I've upgraded a little. Yeah, you've sold everyone else in this office a truck. But me. Waiting for you to find one. Hey. Hey. Let's go to my driveway. I got something for you. Speaking of the designated cow bison in Arizona, let's talk really briefly about what? About what? This. The bison? We initially called it the slave labor hunt. Oh, okay. But it's not. We're maybe going to be there.

Let's talk about the Grand Canyon National Park bison hunt. The butcher and pack hunt. Okay. Slave labor for the park service. Got to put one of them old gals or guys in your truck. Don't you guys. And they got to tell you what you can and can't shoot. And what you can and can't keep. And for some reason, they want you to shoot moms. And then they're just going to watch you, probably just quarter it and pack it up yourself. And then they get to decide if you were a good boy or not and if you get to keep it or not. Is that what we're hearing? Give me the gist of it. Yeah. Give me the gist of it. Yeah, pretty much. Sounds like here coming up pretty quick. What is it, Monday? What's the deadline? May 3rd. What we're talking about is you can apply to be a shooter on a national park. Mercenary. A mercenary on a national park. No, it's a steward. It's a bison steward. Oh, wow. Is what you are.

I wonder how long and how much money it costs to come up with that word. I'm sure they probably paid somebody to have a big count. They had a company to come up for it. Run by a supervisor. Just like they. It's just a democratic process. Yeah. It's actually free. You can go and apply. It opens up May 3rd at 11.59 p.m. They're not going to charge you a tag fee? You've got to do a background. The only thing is they do charge a $65 background fee to make sure you can. On a gun and all that. You can legally be down there to do that. It's only like a one-day or two-day application. Yeah, May 3rd through May 4th. If you stole a sucker when you were in kindergarten. You're out. You never know. You're out. Might not be. You have to be 18 years old. Basically, they're going to run the draw through Arizona's system. That's comforting. Yeah. So, that two days may turn into 10. Carter, keep talking.

All you're doing right now is for people in Arizona to listen, you're not going to draw crap this year. Just keep talking. Points don't. I think it's a good idea. They're not going to use bison points. I think that's a natural for the park service to do that. I applaud them for using Arizona Game Fish. Okay. But, I mean, first and second choice? Point system? It is a little unclear as far as how many people. It sounds like they're going to limit it down to 25. And then you may have to go for an in-person interview or something. I don't know. You have to be able to prove you can shoot three of five shots into a four-inch circle. Got to be compatible with the parking. At 100 yards. Because they're going to be on your hunt with you. And then they've got three or four windows in the fall that you have to commit to be available. Yeah, and you can't choose. They're going to.

September and October. Yeah, basically. Windows? Five days from September to the end of October. So, right during prime lethal removal season, I guess, when we don't have anything else going on. Well, somebody did some e-scouting, Wyatt. You did some e-scouting. Yeah, I did. What did you find? I found a herd of bison. Right near the main entrance of the park, if any of you guys want to. Wasn't it an open flat? Google Earth, right? Wide open flat. Google Earth, yep. What I think is funny. From 2000 and probably 15. You can't use anything motorized. You can't use a horse. I mean, this is your own person and your friends packing this thing out, right? Right. No horses, no oxen. You've got your own food, your own lodging. They have a campground, it sounds like. You and whatever buddies you call upon, I guess. Three to five of them. Yeah. You'll see how good a friend you have.

Well, we'll give everybody here a website to go to. You can read more about it. There's a big Q&A session on there. A little bit unknown. It's not. It's been in the works for a while. Yeah. You know, they've had struggles, which I find it ironic. Like here, the most prolific big game animal in North America over time, right? In history. Okay. Yes. It's brought near the brink of extinction. But it's funny how parks. And we've got to kill them when they come out of the park because we've got too many. We've got to kill them out of the park here. Capitol Reef in Utah, if the Henrys wander over there, they want them hazed and bring the helicopters and get them out of here. And they're the most native North American big game animal that we have. It's like, I know when they get places they're not hunted, they have a tendency to take up shop. But it's just ironic.

It's usually some feral animal that we're wanting to try to get rid of. And here we are. The icon of the American West. Wild cattle. Yeah, the icon of American West. And they're not wanted anywhere. No. They're hard on stuff, Bronson. Well, they are. But, I mean. They're hard on the flowers. You can't make a park and then say, hey, yeah, we love the animals. And then, like, hey, we've got to. They probably smash the door in. We've got to get rid of these things. Somebody got between a bull and a cow during breeding season. That Google Earth image, there's four or five trucks parked there. Cars right next to them. Yeah, and you see people get thrown in the air by a bull, you know. They're liable. They're trying to feed it a saltine cracker thinking that they're tame. Okay, so anyway. So, yeah. Non-lead. Yeah, non-lead. Non-lead ammo. We've got some condors down there off the rim.

So you're going to have to use non-lead. And so those will be there. So what you want to do is. 30 caliber. Right. Shoot a four-inch group. Yeah, Archibald, you're out. Remember, you had a 7 mag you thought you might use. I'll lend you mine for money. I'm not going. Why? I'm not going. You're going? Well, I would go with you if you drew. I would try. Just not for me. No, I don't want that. It's just the dates. Just hearing about. If you could choose your dates, that's something to think about. And if you could shoot a bull and keep it. Yeah, choose your bison. Shoot a bull and keep it. And choose your bison. Now you're not choosing, right? They're choosing. And you're limited to one a day or whatever, you know. One period, right? One period. Yeah. One period. And you're going to have to go. What are you going to do for the rest of the five days?

You're going to go home and go back to home. No, you can't. What? You have to stay. You have to stay. You have to stay. You have to stay. You return. What you do is you return at the end of that five-day window or stay there or whatever. You go back to. Because what you're going to be able to. You're going to bring a group, a couple people down to help pack it out. You're not going to be driving to it, taking a horse to it or anything. You're going to be packing it out, taking it to. It sounds like a reefer truck. Something like that. They're going to want the hooves and dewclaws. They're going to want everything. Well, I don't know. You know, I think they'll probably want to feed the condors. So it'll be good to leave some stuff. Might need to feed them some. Send you in there. Comfort bullets. You're going to take everything, the head, cape, any meat and that stuff.

They'll keep it in the reefer. You'll return at the end of the five days. You may or may not get your bison back even. It's just you'll be able to get a bison back, a piece as to one, whatever you want. It's a little bit unknown. A little bit of hide to make some moccasins or something. The vagueness of this is just unbelievable. Yeah, and you're going to have a park service employee with you the whole time. And then I would imagine they're probably going to advise you to shoot a cow. You know, if they're trying to do some population control, you don't shoot bulls for population control. So that's probably what it's going to be. And it is. It's not a hunt. It's a lethal removal. They're pretty adamant about saying that. It's not a hunt. So what's the difference? Don't you need to hunt to legally remove one? Don't you need to hunt them? It may. Might even have some protesters show up.

Yeah, I'm out. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying. Well, anyway, let's give a website. So the website is go on, like I said, May 3rd at 11.59 p.m. It opens up, and that'll be at www.azbisonstewards.com. You've got 24 hours. I don't know. There's some people that are super. So almost midnight on the 3rd until midnight on the 4th, roughly? Yeah. Or is that? Yep. I mean, 11.59. Yeah. There's some people that are super excited about it. I think it's cool. So it's just some time to go down there and shoot a bison, probably get some good meat out of it. But it's also right in the middle of a lot of other great hunting plans, and that's what maybe my problem is. That you're in charge of, right? Yep. That you get to choose what to kill. And I'd say that's probably the most important. It's not going to be a hunt. Don't think that it's going to be, if this is your once-in-a-lifetime chance to go have

a once-in-a-lifetime hunt. It's going to be, drive down, shoot that buffalo, and then start working. This isn't going to be the experience. The only thing cool about it is killing something in a national park. Kind of cool. I mean, legally. Literally. Literally. In front of a parkie. Yeah. I say, watch me. Caca! Hold my Nalgene. How's that feeling? Will you hold my extra bullets? I might get excited here. Start laying in one. Remember when you had to teach me what Nalgene was? Yeah, Nalgene bottles. I thought it was some special water filter thing. I didn't know what Nalgene was. I thought it was like a chemical.

This comes from a guy that had a 40-text limit on a 15-day hunt in Alaska. This comes from a guy that only drinks one kind of bottle of water, though. Archie's one of the most interesting humans I've ever met. Chilled to 32.1. Yeah. When the ice crystals form, the grid gets so big. When the ice crystals start forming in the fridge, I mean, it's like a kid in a candy store with a shopping spree. Go for it. Who else tells their newlywed? You know, honey, I'm going to text you. Don't text me back. That counts against the 40. I want to have the whole experience up here in Alaska. It's really important to me. But if I don't hear from you, I know you're good.

So he goes. Let's finish this. There was also some problems. Has the story ever been told? No, let's tell this. I think we did on your moose hunt. Did we tell the story? I can't remember. Okay, these two get married roughly a week before in August. Two days apart. But a month later, they both take off to the Great White North, okay, and on their moose hunt. And both of them have in-reaches, right? Some people text their wives. Some don't. But one of you is on AT&T. Who's that? That's me. And you're with Verizon? Verizon, yeah. Okay. And there was, and it was a fairly widespread glitch in AT&T's connection. I don't remember the detail. Through in-reach at the time. About day two of our hunt. In-reach and AT&T had a clash, right? They had a spat. So Wyatt, nightly, maybe three, four times a day, because it's boring. How are you, honey? I love you. Yeah, quick chat, text to your wife.

But what plan did you have, Wyatt? Unlimited? Unlimited, yeah. I'd check in with the guys at the office, check in with the wife. How much did that cost? It cost like 60-something bucks a month. A month, okay. And you're up there for two weeks. What was the hunt cost, do you think, roughly? I mean, something like this would be 10 to 20 grand, roughly. Yeah, $20,000 moose hunt, yeah. Okay, okay. And so what was your plan? Archibald, what was your text plan? It wasn't the unlimited. Okay, okay, okay. And you're on AT&T. So they had that superimposed upon you unbeknownst to you. And that's not your fault. That's not my fault. But you're texting away once a day. My problem was, I'm like 40 texts. That's two a day. That's plenty. And I'm not a texter. You guys know. Yeah. Is that incoming or outgoing, or just your? Total. So that's why, hence the instruction to the wine.

I'm going to text you and let you know I'm okay, but don't text me back. Oh, yeah. It'll take away against the 40. Off the 40. Yeah, like, we can't just small talk. It's just, hey, I'm good. This is what happened today. Check in, you know. All is well. And so she texted me back once or twice, and then she never responded again. Then things went dark. Like you asked her, which you thought everything was fine. When she doesn't reply, she's happy. That's what you think. After five days of no reply, I said, hey, are you there? Like, reply if you're getting these. Nothing. And Wyatt, in the meantime, starts getting texts from his wife that's getting texts from Devin. Devin's wife. Saying, will you have Devin check in with me and text me? Ten days in. Yeah, this is like the day we're leaving. Like, I've been texting my wife, telling her what's going on. Yeah, Devin killed a moose today.

I had to text you, didn't she? She ended up at the end. I can't remember if she texted my wife and said, you know, please have Devin text me or how that worked out. But anyways, we're back, and we're almost, we're trying to leave. We're in camp. Coming back to Utah. Kind of on standby, waiting for the weather to clear to leave. I get a text like, hey, please have Devin text Miranda. And I'm like, Devin, have you texted Miranda today? Yeah, every day. Once a day. She says. That was like a highlight of my day, sitting there. I'm like, well, it's time to send a text. One. So funny. She says she hasn't heard from him this entire time. And I'm like, I know he's Dexter. I'm a witness. I screenshot it. So I'm going to ask what everybody's wondering. Are you still married? Yeah. So I was just going to say, did you go as a witness to court?

I was screenshot saving things just in case we go to court. So if you guys got divorced, would she want the inReach or would you get it?

Okay. All right. She's a tough gal. Let's move on. She's good. I think it's hilarious. So moving forward, at what point, we all, it gets about July or August. Move it to the unlimited plan. All right. Moving along to the next day. Pay the extra 20. We're going to. We're going to. We could pull it out of a paycheck if we do.

So anyway. All right. So, yeah, we did talk about California. That's coming up. It'll be due June 2nd. It'll be a few guys doing that. We've got some results coming out for Colorado Bronson. We're going to have some more results, I should say. May 24th, 28th, we're going to have elk, deer. Colorado. Antelope. Moose. Pretty exciting. One thing we also have, Bronson, is Nevada, May 10. That's a biggie. This is on the front burner. This is the front burner. The only thing on the real front burner by the time you get this podcast is Nevada. Yeah, because we're not going to do that. Because everything else is due. Grand Canyon National Park Bison. There we go. That's off the table. A lot of results, too, next month. That's kind of the more exciting part of May. Okay.

So, the good thing about Nevada, even if you applied back in March or whenever they opened it up, you can go back in and amend your applications. Love that about Nevada. Love that about Wyoming. Doesn't even charge you anything. You don't have to withdraw it and reapply it. That's right. Go change your order.

Call it a day. Confirm it. Confirm it. Log out. Right up until the night of the 10th. You're good to go. And Nevada's really fast. They've moved their application. It used to be due mid-April. So, they've moved it now to early May so that they have permit numbers and things like that. You can actually go look at some of those online if you want to alter your applications because of that. Change it. They close the draw. They run it within about two weeks. It's a quick turnaround. We're going to know. You may even do it. At the latest, the 26th, but we're hearing rumblings. They like to throw wild cards. They are a gambling state. They like to throw surprises. Lucky sevens. Well, they like to do this midnight madness. Yes. And the word on the street is that may happen a little earlier than normal. We'll see. So, we're pretty excited. Listen for details. We'll definitely announce that.

Carter might even be here to take your calls up until midnight that night. I'm going to sleep in that morning so I can stay up. Dude, last night, 8.30, I'm laying in bed, man. I don't know. Okay. Well. Is that bad? That's a big front burner one. That's what married guys do, Devin. I know. They have unlimited text plans and they lay in bed early. 8.30.

All right. Anyway, so we're super excited about Nevada. It's pretty awesome. New Mexico results are out. By the way, if you drew something and you need help, give us a holler. We have a member experience here in the office. We can give you a list of members who've hunted it in the past. We can also help you out ourselves. We've hunted all these states. We've been fairly extensive in a lot of them. All right. So, anyway, we do have Washington coming out May 26. We talked about that as well as Wyoming. We've got deer and antelope. June 1st. We're pretty excited about it. That's right. But then you've got Idaho. What? Maybe I already covered that. But 5th. Yeah, Idaho June 5th. Deer elk and antelope. Those are kind of the last resort ones when you know Utah, you know Nevada, you know Colorado results all coming out. Plus, you've got sheep results for Idaho, Montana coming out in May.

I mean, May is giant for results. It's big, and maybe we can let Archibald talk a little bit about, you know, since he's a primary contact for a lot of our outfitter here about openings and things like that, but with regarding the guaranteed tags. But both him and everybody can help find you an outfitter if you need to draw. And more than any other, Devin, maybe just talk about that. More than anything else, we're seeing things book crazy fast. I mean, COVID with the worldwide restrictions, we've said it many times, the western lower 48 has just been crushed. And good luck finding an opening and don't drag your feet when you draw a tag. Yes. Yeah, and I see it happen all the time. I had somebody that drew Arizona call me today. What? For elk? Yeah. That's been like two, three months. Yeah. And so, I mean, and even though they're draw tags, there's places that will fill up, you know. Yeah.

Nevada elk, Nevada deer, anywhere, you know. So, yeah. If we help you find an outfitter, call them right away. That'd be my advice. Yeah. If you're thinking about it, don't think about it too long because depending on the tag you've drawn, some outfitter, some places there's only a couple outfitters that work it. And they book a guy or two each and like, well, the best thing we can do is have you on call the last few days of the hunt. Yep. You know, that's as good as you're going to do. Yeah. Yeah. There's guys like that in Colorado, Wyoming that, yeah, you've got to be on it right away. Kansas. Yeah, some of those, like if you don't even have them booked before the draw deadline comes, you're not going to get booked. So, don't waste time. It's the way you get the best dates, the best guides. We've, you know, kind of got a unique perspective.

Most of us here at Epic Outdoors, even though guiding is something we do on the side, it's not our primary job. Like our main job here at Epic Outdoors is we've all done it and we've all have that perspective and can visit with you about what you're looking for. Everybody's perspective is different. Some of them are physically limited. Some want horseback hunts. Some don't. Some units you have great ability to hunt in the wilderness and non-wilderness. And people want different experiences out of the very same units sometimes that you draw. So, give us a call. We don't take our outfitter recommendations lightly. Our reputations, we hang it on these guys that, you know, outfitting businesses that we hand out. And there's still guaranteed tags out there. There's hunts out there. Yeah.

And it's only going to get worse, though, after the end of May when all these states crush their draw results and those that aren't left with anything, the panic even goes up higher. So, if you're looking for something now, better get it secured because in a month from now, things get really scarce. I like it. What else is on the front burner? I don't know. Can't think of anything. What else should we talk about? Well, let's talk about some of the new arrivals that we're going to be having here in the office. We've announced that. Oh, I thought you were going to announce one of these guys is having a baby or something. I don't know. Dadlikes. No. Hashtag dadlikes. No. I just need to get the lawn fixed. Okay. Okay. No, but new arrivals in the firm. I have no announcements. In the form of optics. We've announced the EO range TAs months ago.

Then we've got initial big shipment and then just been a little bit slow getting them out. But we have a bunch in stock. So, give us a call. If you're looking for them, we've got great pricing, great piece of glass, great features, the Bluetooth compatibility to them. A lot coming in. By the time you listen to this, the first of this next week, they're going to be moving like crazy. So, don't waste time. If you want to get your hands on them, this is a binder that you're going to want to take to the range and play with. This isn't something you get the day before your hunt. And go use, I guess you can use the basic range feature just to get yardage. But if you want to work with your gun, your load, your programmability, you're going to do a bit of time. So, don't waste time. Yeah. Products getting scarce. It takes time to get this stuff in with just the backlog from COVID last year.

We're getting caught up on our NLs, too. Got a lot of guys that got on the preorder list. We're getting a lot of those guys taken care of. You know, all reports are June we should have everybody taken care of. So, anyway, if you're looking for a new pair of binos, the best on the market, those NLs are coming up, you know, where guys are going to be able to get those fairly regular. Kind of excited about that. Also got a lot of Vortex stuff in. A lot of Zeiss as well. We just, things are starting to come in. We are pretty proactive here. Ordering stuff in advance. Kind of figuring out what people like and what we're going to need to have available and in stock. And it's coming. Everything's been coming. We've had a lot of boxes showing up day by day. And a lot shipped out as well. So, anybody that's interested, give us a holler. We can definitely get you, you know, on the list.

We can get stuff ordered for you if you don't have it. There's a good chance we'll have a lot of stuff. So, got the new NL studs as well. You know, that'll attach to the NL binocular pretty easy. It's pretty awesome. And then it attaches to the SLC post that goes into the tripod head. So, anyway, a lot going on. What else, Chris? You're getting close. Month. We've got a month from you, Bachelor. Month and a half. Oh. It's getting close. You got any updates? Not really. He seems very calm about this whole process. Yeah, just very calm. Well, it's been 14 years in the process. Had it pretty much planned. He's been able to plan for it for a while. Yeah.

No surprises there. All right, Chris. Well, good. He's pretty quiet. All right. I can't think of anything else, Bronson, unless you're something. Kind of been staring at the cover of this May mag. I mean, that's one of the best covers I've seen. It's old school. Just awesome. Yeah. It is pretty awesome. Bill Knisley smashed a giant up there in Idaho. Just 250-something inches broken, 270s put together. Just an awesome story to it. A lot of you probably heard that story on our 200-inch podcast. Yeah, we did. We called his guide on that. We did. Yep. Ben Hepworth up there, he found it and guided him. Yeah. So I don't know what that was. That was on our 200th podcast. Yeah, that was. Guys can go up there and listen to it out there on the website. Of course, you can download it as well. Pretty awesome. Congratulations to Bill Knisley. He didn't even know he was going on the cover.

So it's pretty fun. Yeah. Pretty fun. Yeah. All right. So, yeah, we did put out that May issue. That's kind of, you covered Wyoming deer and antelope as well as Idaho elk deer and antelope, Iowa, Washington sheep, goat, moose. That's what we covered in the May issue and that stuff's due coming up right now. So, anyway, we're super excited. Like Adam said, go north, my friend. He'll be applying. I'll be applying Wyoming deer and antelope as well as Idaho deer, elk, and antelope. What? You had another deadline, an ultimatum with me about May 1st. Do you want to talk about that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot. I'm ready to be. I'm ready. I want my five binges because you're not going to hunt musloat in Colorado. Yep. I'm on the record, but that's my plan.

So I owe it to you? So if I don't? No. So if I don't, I owe you. All right. Okay. Deal. Okay. If I do, you owe me. If I don't, I owe you because I couldn't. You heard it here. I didn't dare do it. I want crisp ones. You know how they got the old kind and the newer kind? I like the crisp ones. I like those new crisp ones. They got the little blue line on them. Yeah. The other ones have got the line. You just got to put it up to the light and it's inside. But I mean, yeah, I want that. I want that. I like it. It's kind of purplish. I like if I ever get a Crips 20. I feel lucky, guys. Come on. Hamilton. You like crisp Hamilton? That's a Jackson. I know. Hamiltons are tens, but, you know, I didn't go as far as a 20. All right, everybody. So all right. There you had it. That's about all we got for you. Yeah, here at Epic Outdoors. So anyway, jump in, Bronson.

Give a couple shout-outs to a couple of our sponsors as well, Red Rock Precision. Been with us from the start. Great guys. Build great guns. Check them out at redrockprecision.com. Give Kurt and his crew a call. They can top it with a better optic of your preference or one that they suggest. They can build a lightweight mountain rifle, bench rifle, hybrid. They'll call it whatever you want. They can do anything. They are now working with the titanium and lightweight steel actions. Both got some new things in this June magazine. You can read a little bit about that regarding Red Rock Precision, some of their new lighterweight actions on that. Also want to give a shout-out to PhoneScope. It's getting to be that time of year here in the next couple of months at least as deer, elk, and whatever else starts putting on headgear.

And we reconvene here at the office on Mondays after the weekend, and everybody tries to say what they saw. It didn't happen if they didn't get on PhoneScope. That's right. If you didn't video it, it didn't happen. Get yours today. They got the new ones for the new iPhones. They're in stock as well. PhoneScope, P-H-O-N-E-S-K-O-P-E.com. Get it. Get it unordered. Get it ready. If you need a new piece of glass, you know, meaning a spotting scope or something like that, give us a call for that. And then you'll know what kind of, what size to get for that as well because they are objective or eyepiece specific to your optic that you're using. I got a new iPhone 12. I need to grab one. But anyway, he was right in the middle last time I hit him up of coming out with the new mold. So anyway, I also like to throw a shout-out to Hoyt. Hoyt Archery. Brownson's got his new bow. He's super excited.

Awesome. Shooting good. The rest of us are shooting our old bows. Some of us have new bows. That's cool. So anyway. I totally picked a color that had no idea about availability. It happened to be the first one that showed up. What I think is funny is, you know, I've got guns that are 10 years old and I don't think I need a new gun. But for some reason, I need a new bow. Everybody needs a new bow. Well, everybody. It feels like, though, in the bow world, archery, whether it be sights, whether it be bows, arrows, three to four years is like you might as well have been shooting cedar shafts four years ago. Look at what they're doing now. It feels like. It's different between wooden wagon wheels and rubber. You know what I mean? That's right. It feels like that much of a difference. But it's awesome. I've got the RX-5 decked out QU Verde. Maybe get Chris to do a picture of it on the ground.

Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Now it's just all up to me to get a tag.

I did have Bobby Fromm from San Diego, performance archery. Put that together. Shout-out to him. It's awesome. Super good. He happened to be coming out here on vacation and brought it to my house. Shot it yesterday. Tweaked a few things. Got the peep set right. Got a few little miters. You're going to be dangerous. You're going to be using it this year. You've got a lot of hunts lined up. Do I? You keep saying that. Bronce, you better be careful. Your schedule is already jammed. He's looking at it. And I've got to ask him, what do I have? Because I don't know what he's talking about. He's looking at a tag today. And today I hear, I need your blessing. For what? You need your wife's blessing. You've got like seven or eight things lined up. I'm nervous for you. You're going to be in Devin's boat. Bronson, you're going to need the unlimited text plan. I switch that July 1st every year.

All right. Maybe June. Another shout-out to Triple S Polaris here in Cedar City, Utah. 435865-0100. Colton Francis owns it, runs it, does a great job. Got an epic build coming. I've teased John. I'm like, are we going to have this for this hunting season? Because John, I have a feeling, he's tweaking colors. He wants the reds to match, the blacks to match. You know, because there's matte. There's gloss. There's variations. He's thinking of the photo shoots. And we're just thinking, let's just get something to use. There's A-arms that have paint on them. And that paint needs to match the back toe hitch. I don't know. I mean, it's a little everything. So anyway, but it is pretty awesome. Epic machines down there at Triple S Polaris. Four-wheelers, whatever Polaris makes, he sells them. Even those little three-wheelers that are freaking 80 mile an hour down the freeway. You know what I mean?

But the ones that you think. Street ones. Somebody's going to die in one of those. Yeah. Anyway, but you never hear of a death. I don't know. Who knows? Give them a call. 4-3-5-8-6-5-0-100. You never hear about them because. Because they don't make a lot. They don't know. There's not a lot of people in them. They don't know who to call with the wreckage. They don't know who to call. That's right. Who do we call? What's this? What is it? It's always. There's only three tires. Yeah. There's always some older fella in it, too. Like, they're just reliving their childhood or something. I don't know. Back to the three-wheeler days. Big wheels. We can't end this talking about death. You started with death. Good grief. Start with death. End with death. Three-wheelers. We could call John and ask him how his three-wheeler's doing. So John goes out and buys a three-wheeler. I don't know why.

Do you guys? Honda. Just because it runs forever. Nostalgia. Hard to find. Is that what it was? Yeah. Is that what it was? The old big red days. Yeah. When we were kids, we had a bunch of three-wheeler. I did, too, but I never want one. I did, too. I had my fill when I was a kid. We thought they were awesome. My grandpa brought a big red. Until you rolled them. We rolled them so many times. I don't know how we didn't get seriously maimed. They made a small fortune on replacing the handlebars. Tell me I'm wrong. Anyway, plastic and everything. Mono shocks. All right. Well, anyway. Well, good luck to everybody in the draw. It's a lot waiting on. Give us a call. Let us know what you draw. Give Devin or any of us a call if you're looking for an outfitter. We can get you in touch with somebody quick. It's going to happen fast here over the next two, three weeks.

Lives are going to change before our lives. Lots to happen. Don't text Devin. You probably won't text back. All right, everybody. All right.