EP 255: Hunting Updates & Adam's Return from Alaska Sheep Hunting

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What up, Bronson? I heard you can't do that, Rick. I left that in the last one. You did? I don't know if you saw it, I heard that. John did one one time and we just rolled with it. Whatever. Hey everybody, Jason Carter and the Epic Outdoors crew, minus Archibald. Who else isn't here? That's about it, right? That's it today. We give him a day off and the rest of us have to work. It is a Monday. Wyatt's here. That's surprising. Must not have been a concert this weekend. That's right, no concert. I haven't been to a concert in a few weekends. How's it feel? It feels good. Although you meet everybody you know at these concerts. Yeah, I did run into a lot of friends at the concert. Anyway. Well, it's kind of weird. These guys got video cameras all around in here and it's weird, Bronson. And then we find out we're on TikTok. Well, tell us about TikTok, John or Logan or whatever.

What's that all about? Oh, it looks like we've got a presence on TikTok now. Oh. Really? Yep. Yep. So if you're on TikTok, who's we? Who's we? Bronson watches TikTok once in a while. No, I don't. I look over the shoulder of my daughters or my wife, but I don't own the app or whatever. Hey, they say there's real hunters on TikTok. TikTok. Doing TikToks. What kind of hunters? I don't know. Dancing in the tree stands? I don't know what they're doing. So, Wyatt, you know a little bit about it, obviously. What is TikTok? I don't know. It's short videos is all I know of it. I don't have a TikTok. You can do anything you want, right? Logan doesn't have a headset on. I suppose it's got to be appropriate in some ways. Do we need Logan to tell us what TikTok is? Probably got some filters. What is it, John? How would you best describe it? I don't know. I don't have it.

So anybody over 30 doesn't have it. I don't have it. There's a lot of older people on there. I know that. Do you have TikTok? I had to hire somebody just so they had TikTok. You don't have the TikTok app? I have no TikTok app. Who wants China to have all their personal information? I guess we do. Yeah, epicoutdoors.com. We're just giving her away. Logan's giving all the Chinese everything we got. Right, Logan?

How many followers do we have on our TikTok? We're about 2,500. 2,500 followers in a matter of a week or two. Yeah, it's not too bad, I don't think. Who danced? Who danced? Probably Logan and John. Jangling. Did you guys dance together? We didn't dance. Do you ever dance? Jingling and jangling? Why would we want to be on TikTok then? Well, anyway, I guess the kids are on TikTok. Apparently, TikTok is the number two search engine in the world now. No kidding. Yeah, so you got Google and then TikTok. Well, we don't want to talk about it too much because if this isn't the new way to reach out to everybody, we don't want our competition to know. And we know our competition listens to every podcast, every single one. We know for a fact how y'all do it. All right, so anyway, Bronson, you smashed a freaking giant bodied doll sheep with the new Red Rock.

Tell us about the Red Rock and then tell us about the sheep. Well, it was the maiden voyage. Yeah. Shout out to Kurt and the guys at Red Rock Precision. I've said this before, but my brother and I had one built. We went in Habsies. Well, what happens when that happens? One of you gets the gun, right? Who got it? Who got it? Yeah. Aaron. Yeah. So, basically said. And that's not fair because he's the younger brother. Basically, younger brothers always get last. Don't they? They probably do over the years. Yeah. I don't know how the brother thing works. I never had one, but I'm just guessing. They probably do. But when you want it, then it's a pain. We live four hours apart and, I don't know, you're not going to ship it in the mail. Anyway, you just want it. And you want to use it. You want to shoot it. So, anyway, I basically said, hey, let's get another identical one built and let's split

the cost on that one and then we'll each have one. So, anyway, this was the maiden voyage for the 6.5 PRC version 2 for me to take. So, this one's quote mine. The other one was his. He's used it on some of his hunts already. But, anyway, took it up there. First broke it in on a caribou. My brother came up there with me. It's in a draw area up there. Got flown in, dropped off. Awesome country. Tons to glass. More country than you could see. And you could see further than you wanted to pack. Let's just put it that way. Or walk or whatever. Yeah, you could walk. You could walk, but you just didn't want to walk super heavy on the way back. So, you self-governed a little bit. But after a few days, we had the feeling of kind of what we're seeing there and found a really good bull and a group of bulls and decided to lay the hammer down on him. And that was a lot of fun.

That was the first, well, first animal I pulled the trigger on. I did shoot it a couple of times after we flew up there. Done a little gravel road just to make sure it was on after the air flights. But, anyway, had a great trip there. Brother went home after that, after we got back to civilization. And I had a couple of days to burn in between a doll sheep hunt. And then, yeah, went out for a doll sheep hunt. There had been four years since I'd been up to Alaska. And so, I guess, I don't know, they tell me that's when it's time to go back. Every four years you can go. Anyway. So, anyway, I was back for that. This time decided to do something totally different that I'd never done before. And that was be very last. Sheep season ends up there September 20th. So, we're basically hunting the 10th to the 20th. And that was different. A lot of daylights, a little bit shorter.

Didn't necessarily have worse weather. We had some bad weather periods. But I can't really say it was any worse than the August periods. Because I've had terrible then, too, sometimes. So, days were definitely shorter. It was definitely crisper and cooler. Leaves were beautiful. It was incredible from that standpoint. And, yeah, the rams were haired up. You talked about that. But they were, they look a lot different in, you know, well, I killed my ram the 19th. Let's put it that way. It was down to the wire. They look a lot different there than they do August 10th in Alaska. Or, you know, September 15th. Or, sorry, July 15th in Northwest Territories. We can get hunting a little short-haired summer ram. So, that was a cool addition. Killed a cool, wide, flaring set ram. And, anyway, one shot, 450 yards. Put him right down. Red Rock. Happy with that gun. It's a tack driver. And it's light.

I got kind of their sheep version of that. With a couple slight modifications, you know, stock-wise and things like that. I got it dipped in the Cuyu Verde. And shoots awesome. 65 PRC. 143 gain grain ELDX. That's awesome. Well, anyway, you're back. You're probably in sheep shape right now. Yeah. I came home when I am. But I'm going to get in mule deer shape, which means I'm going to probably get, you know, eat camp trailer food and fatten up a little bit. I don't know. I feel like I've gotten in shape. Yeah, you can't. But, yeah, you're right. It's different. A lot of freeze-dried in those three weeks. You're not sleeping on the ground. Yeah. Freeze-dried. A lot of freeze-dried. How many days total was your sheep? Well, I mean, we had one more day to hunt. I mean, we killed it on the 10th day. I mean, technically, we had the last day.

It would have been the 11th day if we had killed one there. But usually, you only hunt until probably half day or so of the last day because they've got to get you out of the field. You can't hunt until dark that day. So, anyway, killed it, you know, in the evening, 530 or something like that, on the 19th of September. It was late. There was no time to spare. And we had hunted a lot of country. We had moved a lot of different drainages, looking over a lot of rams, looking over for one that was old enough and big enough to, you know, get us excited, my guide and I. And we finally found one. We figured, well, he's a different ram than I have. He's long, big, wide set, 38-plus on both sides. Different look and ram than I've shot, for sure. And good mass. And I said, well, we've earned one this week, so plug your ears. Let's go. Shrimp dying.

We did mention on the podcast that you'd been inreaching us and that it was going to be a grinder. Yeah, it was. I just, it was a little different than the one in August. That one was, the first message you guys got was like, hey, I'm coming home, pretty much. Went good. We shot all the rams we saw, both of them. That's right. A little bit different than that one. But, hey, I got to see a lot more country that I hadn't seen before, parts of the area in the South Fitter Pacific area that I hadn't ever been before. Some of which you probably didn't care to see, but you were grinding to the very end. I had guys hitting me up like, do you realize Tuesday's the last day? Yeah, I do. Yeah. And he knows that, too. Trust me. I'm hearing from you. He knows the clock's ticking. It's hard. There's a lot of sheep hunters. A lot of these sheep hunts aren't necessarily successful.

You just can't get in a hurry. And sometimes you can't make it happen. You just got to keep grinding through stuff. And then this ram, actually, when we saw him a long ways away, was with another ram. We thought the other ram was the ram we were going there to maybe make legal and kill. But he was too young. He was long. An up-and-comer still. He wasn't over eight. He wasn't eight plus. And the other one I killed was. And he was kind of a low-set, wide ram. Not really a full curl. It was hard to judge. And, you know, it was always going to kind of look like that the way he was built. So that also made me – I would have felt really bad if I would have shot that other ram. And he was legal by length. But he ended up being seven. I wouldn't have felt good about it. Because he had – I think he had a lot to get really – He's got great potential. Yeah, give him two more years plus.

He'll be just awesome. He'll be, you know, 40 plus in a year or two. No question. He's a great ram. So anyway, ended good. But I was up there a while, guys. Thanks for holding down the fort here, whatever's transpiring. I just go to lunch today and it feels like I've missed the birth of children and a lot of other stuff. I don't know. I don't know. Hey, there's stuff going on. Who knows? Wyatt's probably got one on the way. Wyatt? Not that we're aware of. A lot of stuff died while I was gone. A lot of hunters having success out there. A lot of grind hunts. A lot of grinders. I heard it got really hot. I had a lot of rain. I had a lot of rain. Lived in rain gear. Went through all my gear. I did have a couple days back in Anchorage. I did some laundry. That saved me because I have to use it on one hunt. If I had to use the same stuff for another 10, 11 days, it would have been rough.

But anyway, it was a great experience up there. It always is something different. You've got to be prepared for a bit of everything. And glad I was able to bring a nice caribou and a ram home. And decked out from head to toe on QU gear, packs and boots. Rain gear too. Rain gear, chugach, rain gear, everything. You owe your life to QU. Yeah. I could say that, but I wouldn't want Burns to think that. No. You don't want Burns to think much. Because then he thinks he owns me. Yeah. He already thinks that. But then you've just insured that. Galvanized it. I've galvanized it. But QU makes awesome hunting gear. Gear, you know, from layering system to insulation to, yeah, you know, zip off long underwear. Those things are money because you need them in the mornings or to sleep in. And you've got to get them off quick when you start hiking. And you don't have to take everything off.

You just, you know, drop your pants slightly, zip them off, and put your pants back up, and you're good to go. You don't have to take your boots, gaiters, everything, boff, sock, and put everything back on again while you're freezing to death. So those few things like that are just awesome. Down, super down coats. Rain gear, of course. The pack was awesome. He uses 7800. Icom Pro. So anyway, got a lot of blood. Need to pressure wash it. How was that caribou getting at home?

It was a little, skull might have been a little ripe. I left it with an expediter there to get wrapped up and ready to fly home. And it was. When I got back, it was ready. But it was more than ready.

You had some critters in there? Yeah, it was. Put it this way. When things hit St. George, things were ready to be. Those guys were eager to see a smiling face at the under end of the oversized baggage door. Because they wanted that thing out of their possession. Are you eligible to fly again? Or did they kick you off forever? I don't know. I always thought those were in like, you know, a belly of the beast down there. And it's like zero degrees Celsius or something. I don't know. You'd think. I don't need it in the cabin. I don't need it where the biscuits and pop are. Where the critters still alive? Oh, yeah. They're tardy. They're hardy. Not much can live in the belly of a plane. Well. But anyway. When I cut it open at night in the gravel in front of my house, things were live and well. Things were moving. Okay. All right. Well, good enough. Made it all made at home. Good. All right.

Good trip. Wyatt, you've been out and about? Yeah. Took a few hunters. Finally got back. I was on the San Juan hunting elk here in Utah in the Ponce of Gaunt right before that. How awesome is that? Yeah. Wyatt, I'm sure he picks the top of the top for both deer and elk right there. He likes the top of the pile, whether he's applying or hunting.

Yeah. I've been a little fortunate that way, I guess. Or a little spoiled is what you'd call it, I guess. Yeah, it's nice. You'll learn to hunt those units year after year. Yeah. You guys did really well. It's a good elk year, huh? Yeah. Seems to be a really good elk year. Seen a lot of good bulls being killed in the state of Utah. Not only the state of Utah, Nevada, Arizona. It's crazy. Seems to be on fire. Really good. A lot of deer hunts coming up still, so I'm sure they'll trend the same way. Hopefully they trend the same way in my department, but who knows? Who knows? Josh, you've been out videoing Archibald. He had an Arizona elk. Yeah. Nevada deer. Yeah. Killed a good buck there in Nevada. I don't want to spoil anything with him. I'm sure he's going to want to share vast amounts of stories when he gets back. We'd get the truth, though, if you want to go ahead.

We better run. It was pretty quick. I mean, if we just want to boil it down. I don't think he wasted time. No. The only reason I went with him was to try and be on half of the stories that you hear that come out of his mouth. Oh, I know. Were you chased by a turkey? No. No, but I tell you what. Stuff happens to him? Stuff happens, yeah. No kidding. We pulled up there that night. Right. And you'll have to hear his story, too, but it was the weirdest thing. You remember the screecher story in the tree. We all kind of determined it was probably it. Oh, yeah. Some bird. Now, some kind. We're sitting there glassing. And it's as quiet as can be. There's not a soul in this valley. And we're sitting there. And we just found those bucks. And we were sitting there basically just watching them until dark to see if we could pick them up first thing in the morning kind of thing.

We're sitting there glassing. Just he and I standing there, not talking, nothing. Both of us just staring into the spotting scopes. And all of a sudden, we hear this. I'm like, what in the heck was that? And I look up, and there's this owl. And it just dive-bombed us. But you know how silent they are? The wings are all hairy, so they're quiet. And it came in. And then it went out and circled. And it turned. And it had its eyes on us the whole time. And its head was turning. And it comes back over. And it dive-bombs us again. And it comes back a third time. And it's just looking at us. And all of a sudden, it just makes this little sound. And it flies off. And he's like, that thing was looking into my soul. Kevin, come on. I don't know what it told him. Anyway, we got video of it. We actually videoed it. Because I was like, what the heck? This is the pterodactyl he was talking about.

But it was the creepiest thing. Because it comes in and just hovers and just stares us. Like, looks us right in the face. Their eyes aren't beady. They're giant. Yeah. They're like that big. And his head was just sitting there. They're yellow. Yeah. I hate an owl. So just things like that, I don't know. It's just stuff happens to him. How about his sleep habits?

We might have to let him defend himself on a few of these topics.

When it was in Arizona, it was hot. The best part was he tells me, he went down a night before and he told me, I'm going to go down and get us a good spot, lots of shade, all that kind of thing. Let's just say when Devin looks up at pinion trees and I look up at pinion trees, there's a height difference there. A tall pinion to Devin and a tall pinion to me. It's a five foot eight. There's a difference. A five foot eight tree is a tall one. Yeah. Yeah. We were camped in the shortest pinion and juniper trees I've ever seen in my life. Not a shade bush in sight. How much sunscreen did you go through all that? Not enough. And so we just, yeah, in the afternoons, honestly, you know, you kind of have that hour and a half a morning, hour and a half a night where the elk are bugling. And if they're not bugling, you couldn't glass them up. I mean, we left spotting scopes in the truck.

They couldn't even physically. There was no reason to use a spotting scope. There was maybe three places you could have glassed from. And it was kind of pointless to have me glass and him go hunt and get you back in time, you know, on something. So anyway, it was hot during the middle of the day. So we'd migrate to the higher country. It was about 15 degrees cooler up in the Ponderosas and take our cots up there and our blankies and pillows and have a night. Blankies. Stuffed animals. Eyewear. Some eyewear.

Awesome. Good stuff. Well, anyway, it sounds like you're right in the middle of the elk going crazy. Yeah. Huh? It was. Like even maybe the first day would have been the best day kind of thing. Oh, yeah. With these early monsoons. The moon was not quite full. And so we had some cooler temperatures, that kind of thing. The elk, they definitely, that night, it was a solid three hours of bugling. You know, it was kind of one of those, we got up there, it was like, well, four o'clock, they were going and had bulls come in, called some bulls in, got some good video of it, that kind of thing. Had a big bull come in, but he just couldn't get a shot. And then after that, it vastly changed for the rest of the days. I guess the next night we did have another bull come in, really, really close, 340, awesome bull.

And I mean, he came in from, you know, the wall away when he finally saw me there, but it was almost dark. He's a little picky. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he is. He didn't even draw back, I don't think, right, on that bull. No. No, he didn't. I mean, the big bull that he'd seen kind of sealed its fate. Warping right out of the gate. Yeah. Yeah. He was smitten right off the gate. Yeah. So anyway, it was awesome, though, on bulls every day. It was fun. Just lots of hiking and walking and walking and walking and walking, trying to catch elk, and you just can't do it. No, you can't catch them. Yeah, it's hard. Got to be in front of them. Yeah. No, it's been good, though. Pretty awesome. There's been a lot of big bulls and a few big bucks taken. It's been pretty legit. Like, Nevada's even killed a few good bucks, you know? Yeah. Wyoming high country. Oh, yeah. Wyoming high.

Wyatt, I mean, we hear of a few things that are alive, even. Like, it's a pretty good year up there, it seems like. Yeah. Don't you think? I would definitely agree with that. And these bulls, there's some great bucks being taken here in Utah, and then the bulls in Arizona, Bronson. We had a client kill of six-point. That's just to die for. Yeah. To die for in Arizona. Yeah. You've seen more about that in an upcoming issue, for sure. Yeah. It's a stud. Great bulls out of New Mexico, too. Had a, you know, first week archery hunters. Kill a couple of great bulls down there as well. First and second week, I guess. Wyatt's got a great, a big decision to make. He's going to have an antelope hunt and an elk hunt going on at the same time. In different states. What's going to give? The antelope hunt is probably the lowest priority right now. Right. But you'll kill a giant there, no doubt.

You're lucky that way. Hopefully you can fit them both in, though. And then the elk is only a five-day deal, right? Yeah, short, quick. Yep. Rifle elk. Those are over before they know it in New Mexico. But, hey, that's why they can generally have decent numbers of tags on a lot of their units. Right. Don't hunt them in the rut, either. Yeah, short seasons. Right. All right. Well, that's about it. Jason, John. I've been grinding on one or two specific bucks and just grinding. So, anyway, we'll see how they turn out. That glossed over it. We'll see how they turn out. You have been in the field, though. I'm in better shape than I want to be in. Let's put it that way. So, on the magazine front, I just wanted to mention that magazines for October, November should be in the mail today. Okay. The big thing is October 11th, if you're applying for Arizona Bison, it's time.

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I just wanted to jump on here real quick. Give kind of an update. We do have, you know, it's kind of a fun year. And already looking forward to next year.

Just going to say it. It's not even October. New plans. It's not even October. Hey, hey. Don't throw it in a towel yet. I'm not throwing it in a towel. Okay, good. Good. The big ones aren't playing fair. That's all I'm going to say. So. Yeah. Well, we've all got a lot left. It's kind of the time. October, early November. What I think is frustrating is sometimes I get glossed over by mule deer. And really, I should have been hunting elk. You see all these big bulls dying? Like, we knew this was a year for elk. Like, we knew this. You know what I mean? Just in our gut. You know? Just a feel for it. Yeah. What? Why? Why didn't we put more emphasis on that? And do it while it's doing and going. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, Devin's hunting. Well, with the brother. Yeah. He's doing it right. He's doing it right. So, it's probably. Giant bulls killed this year. You know, it's funny.

Devin and I were talking about it. It's pretty interesting. In Utah, you know, we've always had our rifle hunts during the rut in Utah. And I've never thought too much about it other than that's just what you do, you know? And we were down there just grinding in Arizona. And all of a sudden, you pull up Instagram. And it's just like, dead bull, dead bull, dead bull, dead bull. From Utah? Yeah. You're like, man, that's a kick in the gut when you're down there trying to get less than 60 yards because you can't even see that far. Guys are pulling up on a point. What? 800 yards. Knocking down 400. And the archers were struggling in Utah. And all of a sudden, the next day, there was dead bulls everywhere. How does that happen? Yeah. That was the worst archery hunt ever. The next day. Gunpowder and Lead. Yeah. Which will be interesting because they're. Play that song here, by the way.

Gunpowder and Lead by Miranda Lambert. Throw that on there. That's how it happens. Yeah. That'll be interesting to see. They're actually talking elk plan for the next seven years for Utah this year. That'll be coming up. So, it'll be interesting to see what they change. Change, if anything. Hunt structures or anything like that. I know that road elk hunt is what they're looking at pretty hard. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's crazy when you look at that. What are they looking at? Looking at doing away with it? Yeah. Oh, what you're talking about? Potentially, yeah. Altering the season? Yeah. What are they really? Give us in layman's terms. They have their committee. Well, they just. They have a committee that meets a bunch of different sportsmen, landowners, that kind of thing. And they have these committee meetings. They had eight or ten or twelve of them, whatever. And then they.

They made the formal recommendation. Recommend to the division. Yeah, they have. I don't think it's been all formalized. Yeah. Yeah. But they make a recommendation. They say, we've talked with all these people or whatever. And then they make a recommendation to the division. And then the division comes out with an actual physical recommendation that goes through the rack and the board. And I know adjusting rifle hunts out of rut. More archery stuff in rut. That kind of thing. That's going to be a big fight. Because you've got a lot of guys sitting on a lot of points. Well, and it was never intended to be. Speaking of San Juan Wyatt. Growing up over there. I remember the first time they had a hunt. They gave five tags. When you have a first hunt. Like, give five tags. Oh, let them hunt right in the rut. Let me make it be awesome. Give them. Throw them a bone. It never changed.

And that happened everywhere. Five tags grew to ten. Ten grew to fifteen. Then they said, okay, let's give five archery tags. But we've already got the rifle hunt right in the middle of the rut. So we've got to do archery before that. But it's kind of earlier than the rut. But that's the only place it can be. And then five more years later, let's add some muzzleloader hunters. That has to be after the rifle. And now, oh, we've got more bulls. We've got to kill more. But let's do some in November. And that's the way we got where we're at. And then the points become valuable. Because now I want my once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. I haven't had my turn. I've been saving. I haven't had my turn in the rut. Based on this season structure. Yeah. So that's how it happened is newly instituted limited entry units in Utah. Even a lot of them like Boulder Mountain, LaSalle, they were any bull hunts.

Yeah. They were any bull. Yep. And when they went spike only for general season and limit entry, it didn't take long for them to produce really big bulls. But you start giving the first hunts period in the rut. They didn't start with archery, muzzle, unrifle. They didn't start that way. They started with rifle tags in the rut. I was alive. I remember it. It wasn't that long ago. Yeah. It was like late 80s, early 90s. Ronson. We're old. Yeah, I know. That's 35 years ago. Okay. Hey. Okay. I was 14. Yeah. Old enough to hunt. Keep going. So anyway. So, yeah. Well, the reason I know is my aunt drew one of the first five tags on sandal in the first year they had it. So I just, I remember how it was. I remember you just went from nothing to here's a few tags in the rut. Might as well give it to them right in the rut. They didn't have archery, rifle, muzzle, all that.

The archery and muzzle got added later as they had to add more tags. They didn't want to just put them all in the rut, but they didn't at that point move, ship the rifle on out. It's been band-aided from the beginning. Yeah. It started, they took the nine days or 12 or whatever, and the peak of the rut rifle right out of the get-go from the start. That was carved out. Yeah. So it's just been, everything's been added to it, and you're left with what we got. And like you said, the only problem now is the investment. A lot of people have 20, 25 years into a system that they haven't cashed in on yet. And now they feel, you know, like they're going to get slighted. But I don't know, just going to maintain quality. Going to have to do something and give more opportunity because we're limited on the opportunity we can give

and have an inequality as the way it is right now with hunting every day in September. People say, well, look at Instagram. Utah's producing more than it's fair. It's working fine, everybody. Just keep going. So who knows? Who knows how it goes? Who knows? We've been talking about this for years, though. I mean, you know, it's needed to be addressed. That's our gut feel. So I guess that's happening. All right. Well, we got anything else? John? Let's do a shout-out to St. James Sporting Properties, great sponsor of ours, long-term sponsor. So if you're in the market for a ranch or a sporting property, check out their website. It's sjsportingproperties.com. A good dude actually put a client on an absolute giant off his own ranch. They just sold him the ranch up in Montana. Yeah, he killed a diet. He sent us a picture. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Like, anyway, he knows what he's doing.

He's on top of the game. One of the best in the industry. If you're looking to buy a ranch, sell a ranch, whatever. I want to sell my house through the guy. I mean, he's like, he's good at what he does. So, anyway, give him a holler. If you're wanting a ranch, sell a ranch, whatever. Want a good hunting property, hit him up. And also give a shout-out to Hoyt Bowhunting. We've all been shooting the new Hoyt RX-7s. We have. This is what they have now. Josh and Devin have been. I need to be. We still have the RX-5s. Phenomenal bows. But they're awesome. But you had your clients, one or two of them. At least one of them had a 7, didn't they? Yeah. One of the RX-7s. And he said, like, don't even just throw your other bow away. This one's unbelievable. Yes, he said it is unbelievable. It's hard to believe because mine's up pretty unbelievable. I don't want it.

It's amazing how fast he shot that, or how fast that arrow was flying at that buck. It was amazing. Couldn't even see it in the binoculars. It just. Jeez. One hole blew right through it. Awesome bows. I need to get shooting mine for Wisconsin Whitetail. Oh, yeah. Coming up.

Wyatt, you've got a lot coming up. I forgot about that. Busy month. Your next 30 days is busy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to do that next year, too. Yeah. What? Diversify? Yeah. Because his next 30 days look pretty light. My next 30 days look like a freaking grind. And I'm tired of it. All right. Well, is that all we got, John? Yeah. We good? Everybody's happy? Hopefully everybody. A mention of Montana points coming up at the end of the month there. Take it away, Wyatt. And I also have a Wyoming points application deadline come up end of October. Remember in Wyoming, if you applied for deer, elk, and antelope and were unsuccessful, they didn't give you a point. You've got to go buy them. It's dumb. I'm just going to say. No matter if you applied or not. It doesn't matter. You've got to go back and get it. It's crazy. Hopefully we've been saying that and preaching that over and over.

You've still got to go buy it for those three species. For the sheep and the moose, you have the option back when you applied to add it. And they took it from your refund. But they didn't do that on the deer, elk, and antelope. So go back and buy them before October, what, 31? I think it is. Or is it November 1? Anyway. End of October. How about I use that round number? Sometimes it's November 1 if it's a weekend. Or it's a Monday. That's right. That's right. All right. Well, sounds good. Hopefully everybody out there is doing well, having good success. Do we want to give away anything? October 31. Do we want to give away anything? Where's our giveaway pile? Yeah, I think we've got a pair of binals over there. We've got like two cases of original monsters, full sugar in there. Remember? The only person I know that drinks those. We're 25 and under because our metabolism changes.

Full sugar, full caffeine. But how are we going to give this away? Let's do the rate and review again. That worked really well last time. Yeah. Go ahead. And we've got a pair of Diamondback 10x42 binoculars here. Still a lot of time left in the season, and you need those in your life. So go ahead and go on and give us a review and a rating on our podcast, on whatever podcast platform you listen to. Go ahead and go give us a healthy rating that you approve of. Let us know how much you like it, and it helps boost us. And then to enter, you take a screenshot, DM it to us. Yep. Take a screenshot of your rating. Slide into Josh's DMs. No, not mine. Epic underscore hunt. Well, that's yours. Would be a better place to slide into. No, you're talking to Josh. If you want to flirt with him, go ahead. Do whatever. Not the only one that holds that account. I don't know. Logan? Logan, you're single.

Got any little TikTokers out there that want to hit up Logan? Why? Go ahead. All right. So anyway. Do that by. Let's just do it by Friday. Okay? Yeah. Give this sucker away on Friday. Sound good? Sounds good. By Friday, September 30th. All right. Go ahead and give us a rating and screenshot that. Show us your rating or your review of us and we'll get you in. Okay. DM it on Instagram. Make that clear. Yep. DM us on Instagram. Pretty easy. You don't even have to buy anything. Thanks to Vortex for helping out with that. Yeah. We appreciate you all. Appreciate Vortex. All right, everybody. Good luck out there in the field. We got a good grinder of October. October is the toughest month in the world to freaking kill stuff. October rhymes with grinding. It's tough. It's tough to kill stuff in October, especially milder. But, hey, got to give her a heck.

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