EP 259: New Blood and Upcoming Hunts!

Anything to do with Western big game.

Welcome to the Epic Outdoors podcast, powered by Under Armour. Hey everybody, Jason Carter, Adam Bronson, Wyatt Bowles, John Peterson. How are y'all doing today? Good, good. We're here. Couldn't be better. Bronson, first day in the office. What were you loaded with calls about? First day in the office since what? Last week? I don't know. First day in the office since before the last time. Since Tuesday. In a week. The last podcast? Probably, yeah. And? But I've been at this table just as much as y'all. Oh, that's not true. We did one without him, didn't we? I wasn't involved. No, we didn't. There was. I haven't missed anything. Did one in my sleep. I had a weird dream last night. I had a weird dream. But anyway, go ahead. You can't just say that. Are you going to get into that? Dude, I don't know.

Watch what you say. So what I was thinking about is I must have done a pot. Well, that just happened, Logan. I got you covered. But when their keyboard goes to Portuguese, how do you fix it? Just search keyboard in your settings and change it back to English. And you deleted some keyboards. I did. Yeah, you had a couple different languages. That's why we pay you the big bucks. And that's... I bring up a pet peeve that I have. Okay, go ahead. No one's the Siri or the person that's Siri or whatever other individual on your TV, phones, or all the things. There's dudes. There's ladies. Whatever. They have names. Okay.

I don't know what you're talking about. Why can't they just speak regular American English? News reporters. They're Australian or they're British and stuff. And it drives me crazy. It's the... Hey, they... I hate to say it, but it's this woke environment word. Give me one that's a... If you... Deep South Texan. Hey, if you have a little slant to your English, you're going to get hired. Give me a deep South Texan. Louisiana. Give me a Cajun. Somebody. I just want to know that's an American that's... This is going down a bad road. We're an equal opportunity employer. We are, but it just... If you're in Britain, you want somebody that talks like you. I'm in America. I want someone that talks like me. That's not too much to ask. You're going to get us in trouble with the HR department. There's only 300 million people here. Get one of them that sounds like me. Most of them aren't.

Most of them aren't from where you're from. I don't know about deep Cajun. I was in a hunting camp once with someone who was deep Cajun. I could not understand. Yeah, I was kind of joking, but at least I'd feel like he's an American. So I had a dream about a lion. Like an African lion? That was a pet lion. And it slept in Sean's room. That was the weirdest thing in the world. And then I'm like, man, he's going to smoke Sean. He's going to be hungry. And then I woke up. The lion was fine. We let him out the door because he needed to use the bathroom to go eat. What's that reality show about the husband and wife when they... I don't know. Oh. I don't know. Tiger King? Tiger King. Come on. There you go. Isn't that guy in jail? That guy's in jail. He's in jail. He's in jail because he... He tried to put out a hit on Carole Baskin. Yeah. Yeah. He'll get a guy. You tiger King.

I kind of was rooting him on. The lion King. That landed him in jail so don't do that. But anyway, so I'm thinking this thing... So we had a couple of horses and I'm like, this thing needs to eat. You know, it's going to smoke something. Whatever it's in its path. He went up to our favorite horse and started slapping it on the side. I get going. Just playing with it? Yeah, playing with it. I'm like, no. And then it went over and smoked the other horse and ate it. I don't know why. What does that mean? If you're interpreting dreams, what does that mean? I do know a guy that can interpret dreams for you. B.S. Who? The epic outdoor shrink. Who is that? My dad. Oh!

We have called Paul. What do you think he's doing today? I don't know. I'm a little scared to know what the dream means. I may not want to know. I'm scared of the invoice.

You want me to ask him? I'll bring it back to you next week. Yeah, bring it back to him. All right. Yeah, do a third party. Logan, while we're on that subject, we have never officially introduced Logan, a new voice on the podcast. Logan, just tell us a little bit about yourself. Well, my name's Logan Marshall. I'm from Minersville, Utah. Born and raised there my whole life. I've been hunting about as long as I've been born. I think my dad has pictures of me and three months old and a tree stand with him. Jeez. There you go. I didn't even know they had cameras back then. Wait, Logan. You're a millennial. Yeah, they had cameras back then. Am I a millennial? I don't know how that works. Or is it, what are all the gins? I'm pretty sure. Millennials and what's... Well, I consider Gen Z. Gen X. Gen X, Y, Z, Z, Z. I don't fit in very well with any of them. I don't know. I don't know. Keep going.

Anyway. Yeah, you're going to school? Yeah, going to school. Took this semester off. Took a job here at Epic. And I'm liking it. Doing some social media marketing stuff. It's amazing. We got a pretty brilliant, you know, hands-on computer, whatever. Helps John a ton with kind of the side of things that you and I don't like. Fix his keyboards. Your English and the Portuguese in about 50 seconds. Yeah, exactly. Got me a computer or whatever. Got it. Bazu. Bazu, you know, all I knew is it has a beefy fan. That's a big deal. Keeps it cool and rocking. But anyway, he comes from Minersville, Utah. Everybody Google Minersville, Utah. And that's where a lot of my family's from. Anyway, and I've known Paul, his dad, for freaking well over 20 years. And then Logan comes along. And, geez, Facebook wanted to hire you at some point, right?

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for their Facebook side. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so it wasn't Facebook itself? No, no. Zuckerberg? Or is he not even on the floor? I think he still owns it. He's still the king. He's not the king. Musk hasn't made an offer yet. I heard Musk was going to come up with his own phone. You want to delete the Twitter app? I'll make my own phone. I mean, could you imagine? He could do it. Anyway, keep going. After dealing with Facebook advertising the last few days, I think me and John are rooting for Musk to buy old Facebook. Yeah, that's true. So, anyway, I just thought, hey, Logan's got a knack for this kind of stuff. We ought to at least visit with him. So, here he is. We're going to give him a little bit of a hard time on this podcast because we pretty much give everybody a hard time. Except for Wyatt. We never give Wyatt a hard time. Huh, Wyatt?

That's true. I'm just too hard of a target. Wyatt paid his dues, I think. If you go back a year or two. He did. He paid his dues. Behind me. What happened a year or two ago? When they were all single, when you had the three single boys. It was some fair amount of teasing. I don't know if they've ever truly been single. I don't know if it was too harsh. I mean, I think it was spread out equally amongst him, Chris, and Devin, but whatever. If it was Wyatt, I publicly apologize. Well, thank you. If it was even upon you. Thank you. Accept it. I apologize. Will you accept mine? Yeah, accept it. Does that mean you've forgiven me? Yeah, it's all forgiven. I'm forgiven. We're on a new slate. We're drawing a line in the sand. We're starting to. Whoa, I like this. Hey. Okay. This is the stuff Dr. Phil tries to get people. It takes them a whole episode. We did it in three minutes. Yeah, exactly.

All right. Well, speaking of giving people a hard time, let's just call Pollock. So Pollock's on vacation in a foreign country, probably in the sand. Parts of his body are in the sand. Should we call him and just see if he answers? Just see if he answers. Ask him if he's going to get a general. I don't know. I don't know. Elk tag or deer tag or something. Can you imagine if he's on vacation and he's playing that game tomorrow? And his wife. I just got to give him a few work things over here. Yeah, exactly. Josh paints whatever picture he wants to paint. Hold on. Let's get him all. I don't know. Why don't you go to the gym and work out? Well, I got to do a little bit of work. Looking good, babe. Looking good.

I have no idea. He'll answer. No idea. Did you drive me? Huh? Yeah, I'm trying to. He may not have service. The country prefix. Yeah, I thought we'd get the out of country, the beep thing. He's probably lied to us and he's in the States. Just don't know. Laid up at the house. Hang with Utah, bros.

Nice. Should have left him a voice. Darn it. You should FaceTime him. Maybe. You know, because when you're on Wi-Fi. Yeah, but wouldn't it still ring if you're on Wi-Fi? No. If it's iPhone, iPhone. No, but if you do FaceTime, it'll ring. It should still ring. We'll do FaceTime calling. We'll do FaceTime calling. Audio, not video. Audio.

He's doing it right now. He's thinking, oh, something serious. This is round two. Jeez. My house is funny.

Must be in the pool. Cool. Yeah, I didn't have a waterproof case on the phone, so we left it at the. He's probably on to his 15th Bahama Mama drink that they have down there. All right. Well, anyway, we were going to give old Paul a guard. We can't be on vacation. I don't expect a little something. But anyway, there's a lot going on here, Bronson. First off, first off, let's talk about ourselves. John, talk about ourselves. Hi, Mimi. Well, we have just launched our winter membership drive, and so we're giving away about $160,000 worth of hunts. A little more than that. A little more than that. But some phenomenal hunts. We've got a stone sheep hunt, Alaska mountain goat hunt, Nevada elk hunt, Nevada mule deer hunt, and the Acoma Reservation elk hunt, and a Utah mule deer hunt, as well as an optics and weapons package. Weapons. Weapons. I love how you said that. Multiple weapons.

Let's talk about that. Guns and bows. Yeah. We should have found a multiple. So, anyway, if you join. I thought old Logan wanted a bow. Well, Logan, you could buy it. Oh, no. I was told I couldn't put it in. You're excluded. He's excluded. Were you actually looking into it? Well, I already bought a bow, so I guess I can't put it in. It'd be no use now, but I was thinking about it. You can get it and sell it, but hey. But if you join, you can get a free ticket into one of these drawings. Okay. Or you can go to our website. You can buy tickets, or you can refer a friend to get tickets. All up until February 28th, but hey, it is the season. Tomorrow's December. Yep. And if you want a gift or subscription, it's that time of year. A lot of people renew around the first of the year or buy memberships just because they get all the state issues

rather than do it later in the spring when you miss a few. But yeah, super good lineup. And in the December magazine, which is viewable online right now, John? Yeah, it should be in your mailbox. You can read up a little bit more detail. We'll mention it, but it'll be coming out. Paper one should be coming in your mailbox any day. Yeah. I like it. So if you buy it as a gift, we will make a gift certificate, mail it to you so you can wrap it and give it to somebody. Give it to your friend or your wife or whatever. Women like the subscriptions to our magazine. There's a lot of huntresses out there, lots and lots of them, boys. All right. Well, anyway, so what else? Bronson, you walked right into a firestorm of Idaho questions. Well, I came back thinking, all right, I'm going to start getting a lot done on the January magazine today

and returning calls from licensed application clients and going through the portfolio today. And I filled it. A lot of questions about two things. Two. What was the second thing? Well, Arizona, OTC, deer, archery only. A lot of people are thinking they're having to apply, buy something tomorrow. Hey, I didn't get my stuff to you, but you'll be applying me for that. It's not an application. Don't worry. Right. First come, first serve on what was over-the-counter type tags. There were over-the-counter general deer tags, archery in Arizona. Now they're allocating $2,890 to $2,890 based off of 10% of the past demand, past sales. And so, anyway, that's what we're allocated as non-residents, and they'll go on sale at midnight tonight, December 1st. So you only got about what? From the time you hear this, you got hours to make up your mind if you're going to do that.

But, again, this is nothing new. These are over-the-counter unlimited up until recently. So it's not like some brand-new thing that they're doing you've got to get on. There's no – I mean, just get a tag if you have room in your schedule throughout this next year to go hunt archery deer in Arizona. The other thing is the Idaho general deer and elk tags. Emphasis, again, on general season deer and elk tags. These are tags they used to go on sale in the summer. A lot of the deer would linger into August and September before they'd sell out, and they just kept going earlier and earlier and earlier. In the last couple years, they moved it to December 1. Well, they put caps on these general areas for us. Yes. Now they – instead of a 15,000 or 20,000 general deer cap statewide, they did it by unit. You can't just give unlimited tags and have a decent management program.

And at some point, there's just too many tags being issued. Or you've got the complaints of the residents and too much, you know, crowding issues and things like that. So tomorrow morning, they actually – 10 a.m. they go on sale, but you can start getting in the queue at 30 minutes before. 9.30. So it's 9.30. This is mountain time for all of you that may not – off the top of your head know Idaho's on mountain time. Yeah. So starting at 9.30, log into your account and bounce around. You might just add a hunting license to your cart. Don't check out, but just have that ready to go. You're going to need one anyway. You're going to need one anyway if you want to check out with your deer tag. And then at 10 o'clock, boom, you're going to start – you know, it's usually a countdown. What do you call it? Running man? Well, there's a running man. There's a running man on there. I mean –

They might mix it up this year. Maybe it's kind of a fun game. Not burning man. Running man. Right. That's right. So funny. I went and gave blood and talked to this gal. I was talking to me about burning man. And then it turns out relatives of mine go to a burning man. I didn't even know what happened. So anyway, kind of interesting. But hey, whatever. I just think of this little green man running along, and you're in your queue. I was 11,000. I was 11,000 last year. You've got to remember, there's thousands of these tags spread out over a bunch of different units for deer and elk. Some people ahead of you are looking for elk tags. Some are for deer tags in other units. If you see you're in the thousands, you've got nothing to do but sit there and watch it. But there's a lot of people this doesn't affect. These are just general deer tags and elk tags, you know, when we talk about Idaho.

And it was one of those things very few people did, but it is something that is kind of you can do to have just kind of have it on the back burner. Just a backup plan, right? And if you want to get rid of it, you can still do the controlled hunts for deer and elk next year up until June 5th deadline. If you draw one of those, you surrender the general, and you've got the control tag. If you want to turn it in, there's different timelines. You can turn it in for a 75% or 50% refund if you're like, I am not going to go use this, which I may or may not have done. And I actually even know people that have bought single-track motorcycles to go use on some of the trails in Idaho on general season deer tags. And then have never gone and hunted. Come on. I did hunt. I did hunt. I was loaded down. Can you believe people would go to that extent? Come on, Bronson.

Hey, how many miles does your TW200 have? 50. What did you buy it for? What do you mean? This exact thing we're talking about. I was, I just said, I know people. 50 miles? How many years have you owned the bike? Maybe. Well, I bought it a few years. Over one. Over a year. Yeah. 50 miles. Good job. There's a lot of places that single-track place is open in Idaho. Wyoming. In theory? Idaho. Cool places. Yeah. In theory? You've used them before, before we had the TW. I did. I had an air-cooled Honda bike that I loaded down with a rack and stuff. It was pretty awesome. It was awesome. I'm prepared, but I do not plan on being online tomorrow morning. You don't? Yeah. No. Well, the thing about it is. I'm resisting. What I'm resisting. Funding a state when you're not even going to go? No, no, no. I have nothing to do. I've done plenty of that.

But I know that you and Wyatt are going to be doing it, and I'm just going to just say, I'm not doing it just to get sucked in. You guys have sucked me into some things just for the sake of doing it. I had Clint call me and grind me out on which units and this and that, and I'm thinking, God, I'm starting to talk about it. I'm kind of getting excited about it. I know. I know. That's what I mean. And it's the first thing of the year, and a lot of us in this office, I think, still have Montana General Tanks. Come on. Really? You're going to bring that? I turned mine back for a refund because the writing was on the wall. And I know they have a late muzzleloader hunt that has not occurred yet, which some of us in this room could still go hunt. Waiting for those Saskatchewan giants. I don't know. Why do we have to rip up these scabs about funding states when we're not even showing up, Wyatt?

Exactly.

What I'm saying is you call something something or do it a new way, and all of a sudden there's demand. We've talked about this. We've fallen into the same trap. We had the option to go. You didn't even have the option. That's a good point. We bought that option, and we chose not to. You didn't even get the choice. I've made the commitment to myself going into next year. What? Going to do less? No. I didn't say that. No. But I'm going to be a little bit more. I'm not going to be as impulsive. Okay. Right. John. Come on. I don't know. You got talked into like muzzleloader hunting in Colorado. I did that. Adam will get excited about some antlerless point. You know? I'm like, really? How does this happen? No. I got talked in. It's one of the best back straps I've ever had. Antelope points in Colorado, though, by somebody. Okay. Well, that's another impulsive thing I did. You're welcome.

Anyway, the problem is we're trained. We are trained to get points or tags. And then all of a sudden, when there's a finite number of them, part of the kill is getting the tag. I have the option. Like Wyatt said, we have the option to go to Montana. Did you go? No. No. No. Not even really interested in going. Right? But I have the tag. And we have to do a harvest survey. For $650. I'm doing harvest surveys. I've never even. Yeah, I don't have to. I forgot I had tags for it. So, anyway. Whatever. So, anyway. But the deadline, reiterate that one. 930, you get in line. You can start logging in at 930 a.m. Mountain Time tomorrow. Tags will start being available at 10 a.m. This is for Idaho. Good stuff. Good stuff. Yep. As far as Arizona, like Adam said in the first of it, it's archery. Coos deer or mule deer. And there's quotas attached.

Basically kill quotas based off of, you know, the different units and whatnot. And when those are full, you'd pick a different unit to go to. So, anyway. There's options in August, December, January. Just depends on where you want to go or what have you. So, anyway. Bronson, are you going to be all right? You're choking. Choking on your tongue over there. I'm trying to do that very discreetly. You can't even hear me. I even. Oh, yeah. Couldn't hear you at all. I mean.

All right. We also are pretty excited about a few things. We've got the Utah board meeting coming up. It's going to make some major decisions on management here in the state of Utah. Of course, we'll be covering that probably, I'm guessing, February issue. Shouldn't change. Even though the application period is moving later this year. Their board meeting is the end of the week, I believe. Same with Arizona. The end of this week. So, we're, gosh, here it is. Office time. Honest. Tomorrow is December 1. Wow. We'll start playing Christmas music around the office or what? No. Huh? No, I'm not a fan. I'm all right. I came home. My lights were up. I don't know how they. I like it when they just magically come. They get put up somehow. What are they? Isn't it the magic? It's called the handyman. What was that joke? Something about the magic rug or something anyway. Magic table. The magic table.

Yeah. Tell us about that. Give us a little depth on that. Oh, it's so funny. This story about a guy, you know, just leaves his dishes on his table, leaves everything on this table, and he comes home at night, it's gone. Magically clean. Yeah. The dishes or the table and everything? Just the table's clean, got the dishes. The dishes are done. Yeah, done. He can't figure out how it's done, and, you know, starts telling his wife, he's like, this is my secret. You just put them here on this magic table, and they disappear, and they're gone. His wife didn't think that was very funny. It's like my favorite. Have you told that story to Carmen? I'm sure she's heard it.

My whole house is magical.

Can't find anything. Me too, Janet. The laundry room, the kitchen, the garage. It's like, you know how when your gear is wherever you put it, and you remember. I remember where I put this stuff, and I'm like, hey, you know, I'm looking for something, and it's like 14 hours later, finally I just have to ask Janet, and she'll be like, oh, yeah, it's over in this cubby and around this corner and on this little shelf somewhere, and I'm like, what? Well, if you clean up your stuff, you didn't know where it was. It's just an intense game of hide and seek. It is. Marriage. My married life has been. It's marriage. Let's see what you've got to look forward to, Logan. I'm excited. I can't.

So, anyway. Now they have those things for your keys and stuff like that. Like, he probably has a bunch. What's that? Air tags? Air tag. The tag. Yeah, but people get it. You'll have them on anything valuable that he has. People get stalkers off the air tags, right? They throw something in a bag and then follow you home and steal your stuff. Or do bad things. Yeah, that can happen. Do bad things. If you put them on stuff deliberately yourself that you want to keep track of, stalkers, I mean, doesn't come into play then. Yeah. So, have you ever tried to get a new iPhone? I mean, I just... Just saying my weekend was terrible. Logan, I needed you this weekend. You should have called me. It was unbelievable. Getting a new phone. I mean, I had one that blew up. Did it just... When you say blew up, what happened? Got hot, cold, hot, cold when you go to plug it in.

And you can tell it's a battery problem. Then pretty soon, I turned it off because the battery was blitzing in 30 minutes. And you need Onyx. Like, you need... You know what I mean? Or whatever. GPS. The GPS program of your choice. And so, I'm out in the hills and I'm like, okay, I got to turn it off because I need the Onyx. I need the point of my bike. Da-da-da-da-da. Which canyon? There's 14,000 canyons and you don't want to walk out in the dark that way. And so, anyway... It was getting taxed. Yeah, I was getting taxed. Turn it off, turn it on. I turned it on. Could not touch anything on the screen. It stayed on that screen that shows either you call for emergency or you turn it off. Stayed on there until it was dead. Never turned back on again. Plug it in. Doesn't hear nothing. See nothing. Nothing. Nothing. It's the most terrible thing in the world. What's the iCloud? Yeah, you do?

In fact, thanks. The orange and black is the hit. Yeah, I kind of thought you'd like it. I thought you'd like it. I kind of want it. It's impulsive. I know you want it. I had one like that, remember? Yeah, you did. It's just impulsive. I kind of want to grab it. Don't grab it. I won't. Keep your answer to yourself. I need a new one, too. So, anyway, yeah, to transfer that stuff over in 14 trips down there, the gals couldn't figure out how to get my text logs back. I mean, dude. We were using texting apps and all kinds of stuff. I'm telling you, it was terrible. It was the most terrible experience of my life. Photos. Figuring out the photos, the videos. You know, it's more than the extra iCloud that I buy. And, anyway. Well. I have 128. I'm glad you're. 120 gigs of text logs.

It's pretty hefty. Anyway, it's just. It was the most brutalist thing in the world. Who's that? That's spam. It's spam. Answer it up. See what they want. What I remember. 001. Start with 001. It's not Pollock. I don't know where he is. Probably. Probably. Recovering. So, anyway. So, that's. Anyway. It was a bad. It was tough. Yeah. Needless to say. But we're geared up. Everything's good. Hard to believe. I have since reset that iPhone. Dude, they're giving $800 to trade in. Because they need the chips. I bet Logan doesn't even know this. Logan, they need the chips. I traded mine in a few weeks ago. You did? What'd you get? I got like the 14 Pro. Yeah. See, I only got the 14. It's nice. I just got this text while we're talking. BSE. That's my point. It listens to you. How does this listen? Happy Holidays from Verizon. Upgrade and up and up. Up to 800.

Up the new iPhone 14 with a qualifying trading. It's like 5G unlimited plans. For limited time, you can. Come. There you go. There you go. That's amazing. That's what. That's wrong. But I've been getting these a lot. They are listening to you. But it's not from that number. You know how they send you for a different number? I've been getting these for a month, but I have no time during the hunts to stop. Well, on Saturday. Because I know the process you went through. It's never a five minutes and everything off your phone's on your new one. I was lost in the wilderness for two days. I in reached Jen and said, go buy the phone. Fast. And so it's sitting there for me to deal with tonight. It's Saturday night. And so I did it. And I ended up with whatever she found, which was a 14. Not the Pro. I think you want the Pro. It's got the better cameras. I like it. But I like mine.

Yeah, that one's good. So tell me what the difference is. I honestly don't know. That's what I figured. The 14 Pro. Three cameras versus two. It's the camera deal. One of them. Well, three cameras versus two. One of them is probably fake. Why is that so cool? What is yours, Carter? Bro. Mine's the regular 14. His is the one. Oh, actually, I do know the difference. I just remembered. So one of the. Oh, go ahead. Oh, so you got the fish eye, the super fish eye. Yeah. And the salmon. One's your zoom. One's your normal. And one's your fish eye. This one starts out at three times zoom. And so if you're zoomed in up to three, then it's like you're not zoomed in at all because it's a different lens. And then this one's your like fish eye wide angle. And then this one's just your normal. So they're making because of hunters, they're making a set aside camera for the fish eye. Wow. I don't know.

That's a large demographic. We have single handedly changed the iPhone world. Why didn't you tell me I needed that one when you didn't get it? Because it makes our animals look bigger. I don't want that. Well, I don't know. Bronson, I just think that the Pro sounds better. It's supposed to be better. Why didn't you get it? Because I sent Jenna down and I don't dare tell her that I'm disappointed that I only have the 14. Sorry to make you say that. All I said was if there's 500 gigs plus, get it. And she went down and got it. And she says, here you go. And I said, you're the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life. Smart man. But then transferring over was the most horrible thing. How did you transfer over? No big deal, Logan. You just did from the eye drop. You airdropped it all. My airdrop wouldn't see each other. They wouldn't see each other because this phone's kaput. I went down.

I did. I went down. Got a new battery. They even warrantied it because I just had a new battery done in September. Still not working? I don't care anymore. That phone's in the buildings. I reset it. I reset it. That phone's in South America. Somebody else is going to have that chip. It'll probably be somebody in Washington. Somebody in Washington. Probably be Pelosi's relative. Try the Samsung to iPhone transfer. Oh, yeah. You want to talk nightmare, guys. How about Wyatt even learning how to do the iPhone? And you don't think it's that big a deal, but I did the transfer years ago, and I was going to shoot myself. It was unbelievable. I was the last one before Wyatt. I remember some of you guys. I was the last one. And then I finally did. It's hard to go. That's why they make you do it. Don't they make you do it for 30 days? Give her 30 days. And you gave it.

And on about the 28th day, you finally pulled your head. Well, you wrapped your head around it and got figured out. Just talking about things late. Still not convinced that this is the way to go. Anyway. Well, so what do you mean? You said the other day you found, remember that whole picture thing? Let's talk about that, where you'd like touch the picture. It automatically outlined the deer and the hunter, put a black background in the background. Yeah, cropped it out. Cropped it out on its own. I don't know why you'd ever use that, but it was kind of okay. Well, think about that. You just touch it normally. It's kind of to make people not know that you shot it in a burn. So normally we make it. Normally John has to do all kinds of altering. Some kind of emoji deal looking thing. I don't know what it was. Look at this. Snow on the ground. Dude. Really? Oh, you touch it.

It was on Devin's white tail. So by the way, Devin. So he sent me these pictures of his white tail. Okay, touch it. This picture. Now hold it down. Touch it. Hold it down. Look at this. It gives a little highlight thing and allows you to copy Devin out of there. And then where? I did copy him out of there on a couple of these pictures. And it just. Look at that. Cut you right out. Hopefully the upgrade, it does a little bit better job on cutting out antlers. Like that. It was a nightmare if people are doing portrait mode. Yeah, the portrait mode. Because it didn't see little basal points, which are the most terrible points on the free. Take that off. Yeah, take that off. Hey, can you eliminate that just like all foreign languages off your phone? Portrait mode never to be an option? Because that would be good. Especially for. Logan has no answer.

He just figures it can be done because he loves Steve Jobs. I don't know. You just swipe over to regular camera mode. Yeah. See what I mean? I know. But man, sometimes you're at night. Logan's like, Jason, you could speak Portuguese if you want to. I don't want to. Well, then just swipe. Everything's a swipe. You're the swiping generation. Yeah, I am. Swipe or no swiping? Swipe left. Swipe right. I likey. I swipe right. Wait, if you like it, do you swipe left or right? Certain age. Yeah. Door of the expo. I'm not doing it. On the dating apps. Is there a swipe left or swipe right? It's swipe right if you like them. Swipe left if you don't like them. You are on the dating apps. Yep, yep. Wow. We're going to have to talk more about that. Oh, no. All right. But anyway, that's where we're at. We've got a lot of things going on this week. It kind of starts off the year here December 1st.

Bronson, we've also got Alaska coming up. People are, you know, considering that. Although we have talked about the sheep in Alaska is almost like the state of the mule deer herd. Really tough. It's been tough in lots of parts of the state. The draw units aren't even an exception to that. Some of the areas like the toke have really taken it on the chin, which were really popular draw units for a lot of years. They have a couple hard winters and really reduced the number of older rams there. Some of the units down in the 13s or 14s, not as bad. Those are still exceptionally good quality hunts if you were to draw them or some of the better goat units. But, yeah, deadline's the 15th of December. 15th, 5 p.m. You need a hunt agreement signed with the Alaska Guide Outfitter for goats and sheep if you're going to apply for them. So if you need a recommendation, feel free to give us a call.

We can give you our two cents on that.

Anyway, yeah. Pretty interesting stuff. Very soon. All right. Well, things are happening. I know Devin just smoked a whitetail. We're going to have to get that story out of him because it's just an awesome experience. John, you want to give us a little spiel about photos and stories, submissions? Yeah, now's the time. All the, well, a lot of, a good percentage of the hunts are wrapping up. And if you were successful, we'd love to see your photos. And if you killed something exceptional, maybe a story from you. So email those to photos at epicoutdoors.com. And make sure you include, you know, the hunter's name and the state. And if you know you're going to do it, but you don't have the full story together yet, and you'd want to just send us one or two photos right now, send this to us, say, hey, just harvested this animal wherever to let us know the state. And, hey, I intend to do a story.

Get that to us now so we kind of get that in the system. And then we'll check back with you in, you know, several weeks as we start approaching the state that we might cover that in. I guess most urgently, if you do have Arizona elk and antelope or moose, sheep, goat, bison, elk. For Wyoming. Yeah, in Wyoming, get that to us quick. Yeah, that's, yeah, real quick. You know, that's on the front burner. But if you want to get it off your mind, anything you harvested this last year, whether you just want to submit it for trophy room or story consideration, send it to us now. And then get working on the story in the meantime. Awesome. All right. Well, this is kind of a short podcast. We just want to basically talk about Idaho, Arizona, a few backstories on a few things to give people some grief. We've got a lot going on here at the Epic Outdoors office.

If you're interested in any applying in these states or whatnot, definitely give us a holler. Of course, we're membership-based. It's $150 a year. And you'll be able to, you know, get our publication, research publication in the critical times. Of course, time to apply in all the western states for big game species. And then we also have a service, a license application service, where we help guys apply. We actually apply them and choose units for them. It'll be as aggressive as you want it to be. You can be a part of it as much as you want to be. And, of course, we're here to help you draw and obtain tags, hunts, guided situations, whatever it may be, anything western big game. So I think that's about it, guys. Anything else you guys can think about? Yeah, just one more plug for Camo at the Holidays. No better gift than Camo at the Holidays.

So maybe jump on one of our partners, Under Armour or QU, and you order directly on their websites. If you want a coupon for a 40% off Under Armour, go to our website, epicoutdoors.com. And right at the top of the homepage is a link to a personal coupon for you for 40% off. Yeah, good stuff. All right, sounds good, everybody. Hope the holidays are good to you. I know there's a few guys wrapping up hunts. Wish you the best. Of course, we want to hear from you. And there's a lot of planning going on right now for next year. I don't know why. I just don't. I can't wait until December 2nd. Why? Because these little two things are over with. Well, yeah. And then on to the next stuff that's just awesome. But nothing's on December 2nd, so that's going to be a good day. There's got to be something. That's all I think. There's got to be something on. Well, there's on it. There's on it.

No deadlines. No deadlines, Wyatt. Can you think of anything? No deadline. Maybe not until the 15th. The 15th. Okay, so we've got 10 days, 14 days to frolic. Write a publication. No, nobody's frolicing.

Right. I call working on a task that you're intending to work on versus getting distracted on these deadline things. Yeah. So, yeah. Good stuff. Anyway. Good stuff. All right. Sounds good, everybody. We appreciate you. Yeah.