EP 315: From Boys to Men!

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Hey everybody, Jason Carter, Adam Bronson, John Peterson, and the crew. Everybody except Devin coming at you from southern Utah. It's kind of crazy. Here we are. We're sitting June 6th, boys. End of applications. Yeah, what date is it? It's like Christmas. I just slept last night, Wyatt. I slept really good. It was not a deadline this morning. No Arizona, no Idaho. Done. No nothing. Nothing. We're done until July 1 when you can put him for points somewhere. I'm excited. You guys excited, Wyatt? Oh, I'm stoked. I'm excited for Wyatt. I didn't know Wyatt knew how to clean. What do you mean? He's cleaning his desk. He had some spray out. Had to clean off the desk. It had been a minute. Carly would have never. Busy season. Wouldn't believe her eyes. I think that's why she doesn't come to the office because she's afraid of what his office looks like. That could be it. Well, she's embarrassed.

My wife's embarrassed to me. Becky's probably embarrassed to Adam. What about you guys? Don't assume that, Jason. I'm offended. I'm offended.

Anyway, so here we are in June. Everybody's getting ready to scout. What are you guys headed out this weekend? No. Cash. All right. Never mind. Starting off the season. Cash is actually locked and loaded. He's not scouting. No, I'm all in. You are headed for bear. I'm loaded for bear. Wow. Jason, I'm loaded for bear. It's funny. You know what loaded for bear means now? Oh, yeah. Did you know what it meant a month ago? I didn't. No, it was a few months ago. What was the other saying you didn't know? Another Gen Z thing. Well, I'm not Gen Z. Time out. Logan and I. What do you identify as? I can't remember what it's called, but it's like in between 97. He's a tweener. Tweener. Tweener. Do you know what your pronouns are? I'm Cash.

It says right here on my belt buckle. Right here on my belt buckle. My name's Cash. Cash, big money, live. No, yeah. Go on. Going to go up the idol and smash a bear in the face, hopefully. Not in the face. Really? No kidding. So when are you leaving? I'm going to smash one. Saturday. I'm going to drive up. Good. Me and Wyatt were giving him some advice this morning. Yeah. On what? When to shoot, when not shoot. Yeah. Apparently, cubs are not desirable. I told him if he sends us a picture of him holding it like a coyote. Like a one-hander. One-hander. Come on. We could call it cubbing. Yeah. There you go. You think you can pick it up with your one hand by the scruff of the neck. Probably don't shoot that one. There's a lot of people out there cubbing. That's true. What other advice did you guys give him? You talking boar and sow identification at 600 yards?

He says he thinks he's got it figured out. We did question him a little bit to see if he did know. Did you? He says he thinks he's got it pretty well dialed. I think. Watched a couple of YouTube videos. Sure. Time will tell. Yeah. If there was a cub that had only had milk on its lips, I guarantee my wife would eat it. What? What? I don't know. I'm just saying. We're going to have to dive into this. She doesn't need anything. I thought this was going to be a clean one pass-through deal. There's nothing bad. What do you call black bear veal? She likes the veal. She likes the veal. Oh, yeah. It's parasite-free. It's long enough to get stuff. The best meat ever. Probably is only half. From bears? Oh, from anything. We'd go by with the kids. Do you realize bears are disgusting? Yeah. We'd drive by a field with the kids. Like some places, they don't even want you to eat them. Baby sheep.

She does? Oh, yeah. Oh, baby sheep. Oh, geez. Well, what's that called? There is a parasite in their meat. I'm trying to remember what it's called. Trigonosis? Trigonosis. Trigonosis. Trigonosis. Trigonosis. Trigonosis. Trigonosis. Trigonosis. Trigonosis. Trigonosis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't want it. Yeah, pretty dangerous. I hunt bears. I eat bears way less frequently than I hunt them. Which is very rare. I don't usually concern myself. So either A, you're not successful, or B, you concentrate on areas you don't have to take out the bait. Bing, bing, bing, bing. We have a winner, I think. So, yeah, I'm not concerned with what could be passed from bear to me. No. I'm not going to eat bear jerky if you can avoid it. No. All right. So how long are you going for? It'll be five days. Yeah. Right on. That's all. Yeah, it'll be good. Draw some blood. Is somebody going to go with you maybe?

Were you thinking about it, Josh? Yeah. Yeah. What happened with that? Just not enough room. Yeah. Really? A little Chevy Colorados 2. Yeah. No room in the end. You're a big old boy. With all his gear and stuff, he didn't have room for me. Yeah, that's true. No, just didn't quite work out as far as like what we have going and whatever. Yeah, there's a lot going on. It would have been fun, though. I would have preferred it. Yeah. I'm jealous. Yeah. I didn't even hunt turkeys this year. It was just not.

They're not exciting. No, they're fun. But my boy's gone, so I don't know. I just wasn't into it. Early morning golf is taking preference is what you're saying. Well, that's always there. But, hey, you can tee off at 545 AM right now. It's pretty awesome.

Get a turkeys or Goblin. Get a cool nine. Get a cool nine in here. Be here by 8 o'clock. Just to hear stories from you guys from the night before. Wyatt, you told me you had a scare at your house this morning when you got up. Yeah, Case was sitting up in the crib. I wasn't used to that. He was about to jump out. Yeah. This kid's reaching up and standing. He learned how to walk. Well, it is between the time you see him last and this morning. He's standing up, not walking, but pulling himself up on things. He's standing up. Freaked him out. Yeah, come around that corner to grab him because he's usually laying there and crying. No, he was standing up. He's like, bring it. Full alert. Like a grown man. Anyway. Hey, Dad. Milestones. Morning. Yeah, milestones. Lots for breakfast.

It's awesome. It's good. It's coming. Well, Logan, we'll have you back next week, Cash. Yeah, you've been fishing, huh, Logan? I have been fishing. Yeah. The rest of us have been here working. It's getting hot. Yeah. One of us wasn't worried about the deadlines. Yeah. Yeah. He was quiet. You don't have to take that, Logan. I was out of service. I didn't even know about a deadline. Did you get applied in Arizona? After all. I did, yeah. Good. I did apply in Arizona. We hounded you pretty hard. We're just making sure. All we wanted to do was apply for a world-class deer hunt, and he wouldn't do it because he's waiting for a world-class deer hunt. I'm waiting for the perfect storm. The perfect moment. Okay. Yeah. This deer is going to be terrible. Are you going to be able to do it? No, I applied for some units that I'll have to get in a random draw. All right. Well, good.

I don't blame you on being protective. Arizona points are sacred. That's what I've grown up believing. You want to hit 20 plus, huh? Yeah. You just want to get to that, see that in your account. Just to feel good. Kind of like some bank account with a couple comments. You just want to see it. We can go back to the creamery and hold it over everybody's head. I've got more Arizona deer points than you. I'm the highest Arizona deer point holder in Beaver County. I eat the cheese per county creamery. I can't talk on this podcast without Josh coming in for Beaver County. You know the Arizona points I have? I could have killed a buck by now, but I got points. You want to bite a curd? Oh, man, you got 20 points. I'd like a little soft ice cream. Not the salsa ones. Those are a little spicy for me. But I got points. You hear that? Wow. Bullock's brutal. That was how you really feel.

Well, they don't hold that many points over a penguins. They can't count past five. That's true. Oh! Because there's no reason. We kill stuff before. Before they're five years old. Before they're five points. Getting kind of coming from someone. A little serious. My name is not. Jeez. Shots are fired. Well, what else is coming up? I guess what's on the truck cameras? Yeah, we got some of that, but we also have this little giveaway going. It's this little short giveaway, Bronson. You wanted to kick it off with what's going on Sunday, deadline of 1159. Well, partially due to the joyful attitude of all the deadlines being done this week, we just thought, hey, let's throw a little something together. We have, you know, as we all know, we've been talking about we're CVA dealers for muzzleloaders. We have a CVA, Acura, LRX. We had, you know, Hoyt Alpha X bow.

We thought, let's throw them in some kind of giveaway. So we sent it out on email and social media. If you went online and bought, we do have a membership drive. The deadline's coming up here June 24th. So we got less than three weeks away from that, giving away eight awesome hunts and gear package to go with it on top of that. But anyway, from whenever you send it out, John, that was maybe Tuesday until this Sunday, June 9th at 1159 p.m. If you're going to have to buy tickets online because we're not going to be here Fridays or, well, maybe Wednesday. Saturday. But buy it online. And it'll be date stamped the second you buy it. So you'll be entered to win Hoyt Alpha X bow or a CVA Acura LRX. It's only around this four or five days. Just a little A. It's just for fun. This isn't even something we published, like in the magazine. We came up with this on the fly.

These used to be called Bronson bundles, but I'm glad we just call them just fun giveaways now. Fun bundle. So anyway. And this is automatic. So you don't have to do anything extra. Yeah. You just purchase $125 of tickets or more, and you'll be entered in for a free bow or muzzleloader. Yep. And it's their choice of one or two, right? Yeah. Right. We thought about doing one or the other, and we thought, well, geez. Not everybody's into muzzleloaders. Not everybody's into bows. Whatever. Give you choice. And it's kind of fun to do. That's all. Just fun to do. And I'm staring at this bow's in my office, and I don't see any more. I know. It bothers you. Or muzzleloaders. I want them out of my office. In the box. N-I-B. Yeah, brand new. We also do have a Beaver County Bundle giveaway, too, though, going. We do. Are we giving a two-pack of truck cans away?

Don't call that the Beaver County Bundle. The reason why you need a two-pack is because one's going to be gone for sure. One's stolen before you walk back to your truck. You've got to have one to watch the other one. That's exactly right. Wyatt, have you set cameras up that way? I've set cameras in Beaver County. I'll tell you that. Is there a trick to catching a feller? I've never caught anyone stealing my cameras. No, but I've been very fortunate in not having a lot of cameras stolen. Yeah. And never to catch anybody doing it. I just went out. Are you even running cameras in the right places? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know. I just went out last week and put up one of those new 360 cameras, and my dad said, because you can't mount it to a tree. You can't lag-bolt it in like we usually do, so you just put it on a T-post. He said, aren't you worried this is going to get stolen?

I said, if somebody can steal this 360 cellular camera without getting caught, they deserve it. That's a dare. They'd have to low-crawl underneath the lens and get it. And dig out the T-post. Why are you telling them how to do it? I still don't think they can do it. Kind of like those shows where people rob the vault with all those lasers crisscrossing everywhere, and you tip-pull through it all. There is a way. Is it in Beaver County, Logan? I have no idea. Oh, it's going to be gone. Most of them are going to have to crawl. Most of them walk up to it and still have to reach up to take it off a T-post. Whoa. Why are we little now? Well, we would not. You would not be teasing about Beaver County if Logan wasn't in here. So not like you have a big beef with Beaver County. No, it's extreme.

No, we have. Now is a good time. If you want to buy a Zeiss product or an Epic Outdoors tripod or accessories, now is a good time because you'll get entered in for every $100 that you spend on either a Zeiss product at our store or a tripod or an accessory, and it adds up to $100. See, that's good penguins math. That's one entry that you get. And if you buy a Zeiss product for every $100 you spend, that's two entries. Double. Double the entries. So that's only going until Monday. What do you win? What do you win in this giveaway? So it goes until Monday, and you're going to win the Zeiss. It's their new DTI 3x35 thermal monocular. Which isn't legal everywhere. Just use it where it's legal. But it is in Beaver County. That's why it's the bundle. Okay. You can use it up to July 31st. That's true. Well, and if you win it and don't want to sell it. I mean, not a big deal.

People sell stuff every day. That's right. Yeah. Sell stuff every single day. But you can use, I mean, predator hunting, all kinds of stuff. Sell somebody in Texas. There's plenty of places to use it. Yeah. There's plenty of places to use it. A lot of the predators. Whatever. Zice worked on this with us. And Hunter from Beaver County helped us out. He knew it would be a big seller. Yeah, exactly. He knows what sells up there. So anyway. I mean, geez. Apparently, these thermals are big with bird owls. That's the only reason why I called it. These owl watchers at night? Apparently, thermal is big with them. I mean, I've been told, right, John? That's right. I use that. But I mean, the owlers love to go find owls at night because they're out. John, we're going right to the birding. How's it going?

So anyway. Okay, so are we finished up on that? Yeah, no. Just make sure if you're going to buy a Zice product, you might as well do it before Monday. Yes, do it before Monday. And if you're going to buy a tripod, do it before Monday. Yes, absolutely. And we're going to be gone until Monday. Yes. This is Monday, June 10th. So you need to have our online store fired up. Can they call in on Monday? Yes. Or is it Monday at midnight? What's the school? Yeah, it's Monday at midnight. 11-59. Our store is open 24-7. And when you purchase something on there, there is a time, date, and stamp. So it's Monday. Anytime on Monday. Yeah. All right. Not to single out the birders, the owlers that I've heard thermal is a big deal with, but I've heard the livestock industry, thermal is pretty good cash. Is that what you've heard as well? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it didn't work, but. Did you really do that?

Oh, we had guys with thermal out there too. They're not good for cattle? Yeah. They were missing 11 cows. They were. The one thing about thermals, if it's not in view and if it's in a different canyon, you're not going to see it. Not going to see it. You can't see through a mountain. And you found that out. Well, I didn't. They did. My family did. No, we had 12 head of heifers just up and disappear one day. And one overnight. Overnight. I mean, they checked them. I guess it was Saturday morning and Sunday morning they go up and check it and they're gone. I think. No, sorry. No sign of nothing. And yeah, they couldn't find them. Typically it takes about 30 minutes to find them if they do get out and they spend all day there and the next day and the next day. And then you were looking. We went to some extremes. I mean, one of you guys called in the Art Bell show at night about these.

He talks about alien objects, UFOs and stuff. I think it went to that point. They were convinced. I know. There was no tracks. Nobody stole them. There was no tracks. Well, I mean, we were. You checked. If they were stolen, someone is highly professional. And so anyway, I guess the day they found them, they must have been in a canyon. My dad and the group went in and won and they cut under them. They were coming back and they were right there by the gate. Ready to go. Like magically the aliens just dropped them off. Jason. Jason, didn't you get your taste of cowboying the other night? No, I didn't. You did. I think you did. No, you can't go away. Yes, this is a good segue. I did not know this. Cowboy Jason. Guess what your job was the other night at this. I videoed. Branding. Video? He got a documentary. He got his thumb stuck in the dally on the horn the one time.

Is it on your social media that we can watch this? No. I don't post anymore hardly. What were you doing? What was your job? Were you holding? Didn't have a job. Were you having the little. I ran the chute. A little bit on the chute. Judgeed everybody else. Cash, what's the little tool called that expands the rubber band? What's that little thing? Bander. Bander. Were you running the bander? Didn't run it. Did you run the bander? No. He was in there with his teeth. No. No. Old school. No. Rusty case knife. I want to make this a one pass.

Jana's not here, so we can't run a buyer. We're good. We'll talk about that in the future. What do you mean? Still a sensitive subject. Why? You always see you. My thumb still hurts. Let's see. Yeah.

It was a crap show. It was fun. It was a good time.

So long story short, it's hot in here. John, get on your phone and turn this down. All right. So long story short, you went and cowboyed it up for an evening. Yeah, you had to brand some calves. We branded them. Vaccinate them. It's so funny. Well, I mean, because the kids, you know, never branded, you know, and so then they kind of wanted to, you know, they're excited to do it, right? The thing doesn't seem hot at all. It's an electric brander. So you don't know that it's not like you put it in the fire so that mentally you don't know how hot this thing is. I get pretty fucking hot. You stick it on them. You know, smoke everywhere. Dogs yipping. This poor dog felt bad for this. You got triggered. Anyway. It was funny. Well. They had to take the dog out. Just normal cowboy stuff. Just normal stuff, you know. Did you have boots on? Did you wear something Western wear? Yeah. Yeah, I did.

Stuff I wear, checking truck hammers. Okay. I just want to see if you had a hat on or boots, I want a picture. Oh, no. Any of the family members that were there that had a picture? It was a good time. It was a good time. I gave you guys the unredacted version earlier. Yeah, but we haven't published that. So I wanted a few of the highlights. The record button wasn't even on. Okay. Well, anyway. It was fun. We were talking cowboy and I just say, this week you get a little taste. Everybody needs to do that. Anyway. Yeah. I had my fill. I used to milk cows when I was a kid.

I mean, dude. It was relentless. Jersey cow. They can produce some milk. And you're a kid. You go smelling like crap every day to school. Can't figure out why nobody sits by you. Can't figure out why you couldn't get a girlfriend. Exactly. Like you said, it does make you have some mitts. So, anyway. All right.

All right. We're moving on. Okay. So, Bronson, where are we at? So, all right. Let's talk about this epic hunt giveaway a little bit more. I don't want to beat it to death. At the end of the day, we've got this thing coming down to June 24th. We are giving away some world-class hunts. This is probably the best lineup we've ever had. It's pretty hot. Pretty stout. Absolutely. A lot of these hunts are for this year. We do have a couple of them. One's a doll sheep in Alaska Rango Mountains. That's in 2025. As well as a moose hunt in the Alaska Range in 2025. You know, I guess the muskox, you could go this fall or you could go next spring. The rest of them, we've got Nevada Unit 231 deer hunt. Acoma Reservation hunt in New Mexico for elk, which last year the guy killed a .380 bull that won the hunt from us. I think we should call that guy in. Yeah, we'll do it.

We've got a Colorado third season hunt this year. Alberta Trophy whitetail deer hunt in the peak of the rut, November 11 of 19. And a couple of New Mexico antelope hunts. So, anyway, six or so of them for this year. Two of them, the bigger ones, if you're concerned, your schedule's full. Give them a little time to plan. Yeah, and you don't have time to do anything. There's a couple for next year. Pretty awesome. It's fun to give these away, and it's fun to be affiliated with these guys. They're the best of the best. So, anyway, Scott, he won this last go-around, smashed a giant in 2023 there on the Acoma Reservation. We're having incredible moisture down there again this year. Let's just give him a call and visit with him for a minute if he answers.

Jason. Hey, what are you doing? I'm putting in food plots. Okay. All right. Have you got just a quick second? We got you on the podcast for just a quick second. Not a problem. All right. So, last time we talked to you, you had won an elk hunt there for the Acoma Reservation and just kind of wanted to get a feel for what you thought and how it went. It was awesome. From day one, getting there, from the facilities to the guides to the food, everything was top-notch. It was fantastic. Wow. Weather was a little warm, but I'm always one that likes to wait until the last day. Yeah. And we passed a tremendous amount of bulls. And I'd say anywhere from 340 up to 360. And I was shaking every single day. Those are great bulls to pass up. Yeah. Oh. Most guys don't do it. It was awesome. Yeah. Jeez. Yeah. Were you hunting with a rifle? What weapon? Yeah, I did. I tell you what, I did.

But I had so many archery opportunities. It was unbelievable. But they told me, Scott told me to bring a rifle. And I was glad I did because the last day he was about 280, 300 yards out. And we chased him. We chased him probably for three and a half hours. And you wouldn't believe the amount of six points that he turned upside down fighting. And it was unbelievable. Wow. And then we finally got on him and put him down. And it was a bull that Shane, my guide, had been looking for for about a month. Wow. It just showed up finally, huh? So he had him on camera from last year or just? He had him on camera from earlier in the year. He had a video. And Jason, I thought I sent that to you. You sent me the bull. But I didn't know this backstory. I haven't heard any. Yeah, I just got one photo. I haven't heard any of the backstory on this. We were kind of trying.

We were chasing two bulls all week, looking for two bulls specifically that he was looking for. I had another one that would probably go on in the 370 range that was probably 20 yards from me. I just couldn't get a shot at him with some cows and stuff in there. And we were chasing him for a while. And then all of a sudden, boom, this bull showed up. And he tipped. He was over 380. Wow. Smoked him. He's got everything. Giant fronts, giant backs, giant thirds. Yep. Just big swords, heavy. So you guys are welcome to draw my name again this year. You're disqualified. Imagine.

We've never had a back-to-packer. I know. Why not? Have a first. There's always a first. That's right. Pitchfork front end. Those are giant fronts, too, on him. Geez. Straight six. Oh, my 24. 380 plus. Yeah. 24? Yeah. Wow. So... And the mass was unbelievable. So this is the last day for three and a half hours you shagged him and finally made it. 15 minutes before sunset. Wow. Crazy. That's awesome. Yeah. All right. Well, that's awesome. And then... Yeah. So what do you... You're putting in food plots for big whitetail? Or what do you got going? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't have any whitetails around here at all. There's none.

Okay. What do you put them in for? Squirrel food? What are we doing? Do you need a guest? Do you need a guest? Because guys that say that usually have a few giants. That might work out. We can work something out. Yeah. We've got some pictures I can send you. We push about... We push anywhere from the 160s to 180s. Geez. Great book. Great book. Yeah. Yeah. Holy cow. I got a 201 that I've got. We got a farm out west of town here. But I did shoot a 201 on that a couple years back. Wow. Rare. Hardly anybody's killed a 200-incher. Yeah. That's unbelievable. We got a pretty good crop of guys around here that are doing some pretty good deer management. Are they? Yeah. Yeah. That'd be pretty addicting. I know it would be. Man. If you looked around that. How much ground have you got, just roughly?

Small compared to out west. But we got about 600 acres of farm out west of town where I'm at from Orinoco. And that's 220 of tillable. And the rest is all timber and big valley. Wow. That's a big deal. That's a big chunk for whitetail. Yeah. So do you like... And at the household here, I've got 27 acres of really prime stuff. Real close to residential. Wow. Wow. So have you... What do you like hunting the most? I mean, a whitetail your thing or coming out west? Coming out west. I love elk hunting. Just the next hunt. Yeah. So I'm going moose hunting this fall. So we'll see. Oh, that's awesome. And who knows what else I'm going to hunt when I draw a take from you. Yeah. Well, you got your name in the hat? What do you think? Well, I'm just making sure, you know. The optimism, man, is thick. I love it. You get a few more names in before June 24th. So anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Don't worry.

Megan's calling me all the time. Who is it? Wendy. Yeah, Wendy. Yeah. All right. Okay. All right. Well, that sounds good. We'll let you get back at it. Just wanted to hear how... All right, guys. I actually hadn't talked to you on the story, so it's awesome. I'm glad you had such a great time. Yeah. Well, thanks. I appreciate it. He's an awesome bull. Yep. Thanks, man. All right, guys. Have a great day. You too. Bye. Bye. That's awesome. Pretty awesome. Go 380 straight 6. We should call these guys more often. We have a lot of good stories like this. We just never... What would you say on this moose hunt in Alaska? I mean, you've been there. Yeah. Tell us just a little bit about... This isn't just checking a box. You're killing... Killing a bull. No. These guys want to specialize in killing any of the best bull or trophy moose.

I mean, they're talking big 60-plus inch bulls is kind of what they target. And you proved it. Yeah. Me and Devin both were able to kill bulls well over that. So, 60... Both of them were 65. So, giant bulls. It was awesome. Great accommodations. Just a great crew of people. They're just a riot to be with. I mean, just never a dull moment with the guys up there at Dillinger River. The hunt dates this year are September 10th. And that seems to be about perfect for when it turned on for Devin's hunt right there. It was September. I think he killed the 14th. And we just started seeing that rutting action get better every day after that. Yeah. This will be the 10th to the 20th of 2025. So, again, if you're... That is pretty close. So, I mean, that's partially why we did some of these early fall, like the sheep in August and all that.

We usually, on the June drives, we usually try to put them out a year so people... Too close. ...get in shape or whatever on a sheep hunt. Time off. Or their schedule. Exactly. So... And then sometimes these hunts are booked so far out. Most of the time they are. We're buying them... We book them a year or two in advance. Two or three maybe in advance. This one's the 10th to the 20th of September, which the 20th is as late there as you can hunt. Right, White? That's the end of the season there. So, it's the last 10 days. So, of 2025. So, I thought I'd ask you about that one because you've been there, done that. So, anyway, a couple awesome testimonials. Big moose. Big elk in New Mexico. Everything else is big, too. So, yeah. Get them in by June 24th. So, it's going to be great. Pretty awesome. All right. Well, what are we going to talk about next? I mean, we were going to call Devin.

I can't remember. Just because we've got to harass him when he's trying to have a day off and the rest of us are working our guts out. Here on a Thursday. I don't know. So, one of the other things that people have... That I've wondered is how you guys have changed your trail camera strategy with changes in laws and things like that. Well, part of it, I think, you know... They call them a trail cam season. Or the famous words are banned. But, yeah. But, anyway. More of a shortened season in most states except for Arizona. But, you know, I think you've got to run more cameras because you have a shorter amount of time. So, you can't afford to miss something. Yeah. But you don't have many checks before you've got to pull them all down. So, if you've got a spot that sometimes you're like, yeah, I throw a camera there. See if I get something. If I do, then you blitz it.

You don't really have time to think that way as much now. You know, a deer or an elk or something that comes in. You get rain patterns. You know, stuff stops sometimes for a week or ten days after you get some rain. And so, you don't know what between now and July 31st, which is, you know, in the case of, like, Utah, Nevada, that's when you're done. So, you do have to be prepared. I mean, you have to... There's no joke. You're ready to go. So, overdo it on a certain, you know, whether it be a, you know, saddle trail, any type of topographical feature. But if you're on water, a lot of times there's not just something tiny they drink out of. There's a 30 to 50 yards patch of water. And you've got to crisscross, you know, different angles. And, you know, there's a lot of times there's other people doing the same thing.

So, it's not like you've got a perfect tree to just do one on each fence post, look in each direction, and you've got it covered. You don't want to miss out. So, we've got a lot of cameras in stock. And I don't know if you want to list them or just tell everybody, hey, call us whether you want cellulers, whether you want SD card cameras. Give us a call. If you don't call us quick, it's going to be too late. You know, we do a big order once a year, really, you know, this time of year. Get rid of them. And not a lot of reason, you know, to sell them. Obviously, we will have some on stock afterwards for a lot of the whitetail folks that maybe, or other states that don't have trail camera seasons. Yeah, and I think part of that, too, is just getting on it early. Like, every time, I know, I get it. Right now, you can't tell what deer are.

Of course, we were looking at elk are pretty legit right now. Elk are legit. But deer, you're struggling to see what they are, obviously. But if you get going and you're kind of on top of it, just the rest of July when it really matters, you're on top of it. You're not thinking you're behind the eight ball. You let July 4th come and go. Pretty soon, you're the 10th before you get them out. Then there's no rotation. You just feel behind. You're mentally behind. Well, literally, if you get them out 4th of July, you have three weekends before you get them picked out. And let me throw a few scenarios out there at you that we all have run into this. You often don't know until your first check, oh, crap, I've got to change the setting. I've got to move the camera. You get cattle. You get wild horses bumping them, turning them upside down.

You think it's been out there for two or three weeks working. You go walk up there. It's face down in the dirt. Or you've got reeds or grass that was too much blowing fills up your card in three days. You've just got problems that you don't know. And if you say, all right, I'm going to put them out and just run them the last couple weeks when the bucks are developed or whatever, it doesn't work that way. So you've got to have them a little longer than you think to work out a few bugs. You always find more when you're just out. You find more while you're checking your cameras. Usually it's something else. Waters go dry. One of the best bucks you saw last year, you were checking cameras and saw him. Oh, yeah. Out of my pickup. Out of my window of the truck. Yeah, and I didn't get him on camera for a month. I saw him with my own eyes. I know. And it was a different year last year.

Because you were running cameras, you were forced to be out there. Yeah, and I had them in places that weren't – I put them in places that didn't have water. I'm just like, I've got to – I just – you know, little saddles or places I thought little patches of live trees. Maybe they bedseer once a week and they get them in there. Stuff like that. Because last year was a different year. It was a much bigger winter snow load-wise in Utah and even Nevada. And the water running off of these mountains ran forever. Clear out into the valleys forever. And so water was not that – it wasn't critical. Didn't you hit like a four-foot wash or something? Seems like there was something significant to that. Remember my palm on my hand because I had office hands? Remember I talked about that? Yeah. And I used a jack for like literally 32 seconds to jack up my truck. And you had four blisters.

And had a blister about that – no, about a silver dollar sized in my palm. I love this story. I mean – And so we just saw that truck where, Logan?

It is now for sale in Las Vegas somewhere. Very reasonably priced. It made me stop. It didn't even take off the Epic sticker. No, it's still on the tailgate. No, I didn't sell it to somebody in Las Vegas, but it's dang sure they're right now. And that truck went through a four or five-foot wash. You can attest to that truck's strength. It's still driving. It's an awesome truck. It is. Just the best truck you've ever owned? Yes, actually. Actually is. I mean, yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's hard to say because I love my big truck. You can't go without a big truck, tall on your boat or trailers around. You have to have them. But as far as scouting, there's no – it blows a Tacoma away. I mean – You had a Tacoma. I had a Tacoma. Yeah, for like 10 months. Yeah. It's done with it. Back problems. Yeah. Well, you did. Anyway, back to the Nevada thing.

Last year, because of the heavier snow load, water – and it didn't – this year we got – it's hotter. I think I saw something in Vegas the other day. It's the hottest maybe ever. You Vegas people don't blow me out of the water. But a guy told me this. How about that? So if this is wrong, I'm blaming him. He said it was like the earliest 110-degree day in – I don't know if it's ever, but in a long time. I just got back from there this morning, yesterday, going through the gorge and down through Muschise, 110. We have a big heat wave. We didn't get – you remember last June? It was barely – you used to wear in coats. It was cold. And so last year, nothing was working. You didn't. And so you – I got that deer that you talked about. I got him on camera for the first time like July 15th and got him for 10 days and had to pull the cameras down.

But I'd luckily seen a deer that was a four-point, you know, basically bulbed out four-point the end of June. Like, that's going to be a good-looking deer. I never saw him until, you know, on camera for a month later. So, anyway, this feels a little bit different year. We didn't have as much snow. I think, you know, the need to hit water. And it's projected. Isn't it why it projected to dry out? Yeah, projected to dry out, yes. Yeah. And we're traditionally in our tracks. Is that Farmer's Almanac or where are you guys looking? I don't know. I've been talking about the – just the no. I don't know, Jason. Did that come up around the branding barn the other night? No, these guys have been talking about it. These guys have been talking about it. I was just wondering where you're getting your info. Pollock. Are you getting your info from Beaver County? Powder Chase Logan? Yeah. Yeah.

It's national something. That's the Pollock prediction? Yeah. NOAA. NOAA website stuff that just does weather prediction things. What did it say? Like, what did it actually say this morning or when you looked at it last? What did it say for this Southwestern? Like, the El Nino stuff's over, basically. Yeah. Which means what? Because now we're going to be back into a dry pattern. For a couple years. At least this year. But then I thought – didn't you say something about some unusual? This week, yeah. Oh, one week. Never mind. Unusual what? Is this a big secret? Potential. Pop and drops. No, just potential for above normal moisture. Oh. Okay. Well, we are in our driest time of the year. It doesn't usually rain in the end of May and June. Anyway, so – well, anyway. So, back to that. Yeah. Call us if you're interested in trail cameras because we got them now. You're going to need them.

If you're, you know, want a great deal, we'll make a great deal. Get them shipped out. They're in stock. Go ahead. Oh, no. I was just kidding. It's a little tricky because that's why I've got to go this weekend. I think some of the high stuff just barely cleared off snow. Yeah. It's not – which is crazy because it's not green up there yet, and I doubt bulls, deer, whatever, are even up at some of that stuff just yet. But within two weeks, they will be. But you've got to get cameras up there ahead of them, per se, because you're going to be creeping into July 4th, and they'll only be there a month, and you've got to go get them down. So, yeah, you've got to – Kind of crazy. It creates a frenzy. Yeah, you have to time it. You've got to go all out. It's a blitz, basically. So, what I've done in some of those situations, too, which has actually made it better the

last couple years, and it's fortunate, but some of that high country has cell service, and so I've transitioned to cell cams on most of those higher ones up there because that way I can go put them up tomorrow, Saturday, and then I don't have to go back until August. First, yeah. And some of those, I mean, in Nevada, you've got to get them off sooner, but we're talking Utah here, so – Yeah. From all the – So, July 31st – So, we have the GMAX 32s. That includes – and these ones have the LCD viewing screen. So, we have a grundle of those because we like them ourselves. That's probably – we probably – Bronson, we have the most of those. Yeah. That's what's in my inventory. Really good standard SD card camera for video and photo. They have enough, like, 45 IR emitters at night. That's what I like. I look for a lot of emitters. I want that long flash.

Because we have those 20s that are great for coverage and just putting the camera up. There's only 60-foot covers, 60-foot at night. But, yeah, and it's about 25 for a good picture. You know, at nighttime, during the day, it's all – it's good. So, we have the 20 MPs, the two-packs. We don't have many of those left. No, not too many. Actually, we've kind of been a big seller. Yeah. So, anyway, and then we've got cellular cams. We've got the Deceptor No Glows. We've got the Revolver 360, which is the new one Logan was talking about. I mean, it's just a 360-degree camera. Pretty cool. I'm thinking I need a little float tube. Go out there in the middle. Put it in the middle of a pond. You'd have all the way around. Really? Plus, you wouldn't have Beaver County swimming out there scared of water. Hey, we can swim and get it. We can swim and get it. You think you would?

He's already dared somebody. He likes Lake Powell. He's already dared somebody to steal his Deceptor. Somebody's going to – whoever steals Logan's Deceptor and brings it into the office, we'll give you one.

If you can find it, get it without your photo going to his phone, we'll give you one. What do I get out of this deal? I get two weeks gap in deer footage. Nobody cares. Okay. Anyone who has a Deceptor set up in Beaver County is going to get it stolen. Sorry. They're stealing from each other. What comes around, goes around. We're going to get four cameras in our office next week. Anyway, then we've got some – None of these are Logans. We've got some flashbacks. It's new. It went back to the old white night flash. I actually like those. I mean, deer – Maybe start a slightly more, but, I mean, they are brighter. It's fast. It's – I haven't – I just got one set up last night, and it's a flash. Like, it's one of those things where you're like, wait, was that a flash? Like, it's so fast. You know, I don't know. I don't think it's going to – Oh.

I don't think it's going to mess with them too much. Logan's – what are you posting there? Logan's got one already. Should we post that as a hint as to where this camera might be? Yeah. That's the flashback location. That ain't – Anybody brings us a flashback, we'll give you – No, that's cool. No, no, no. Give you some free coverage on the podcast. How about that? Don't be stealing. I wouldn't be posting that. It's awesome to see all that. Color night photos. Yeah, that – The quality of the night photos really impressed me, even with that white flash. It was pretty awesome. A lot of people in Beaver County probably bathed in that trough. I know what the title of this podcast is going to be. Who hasn't? I'm sorry, Beaver County. Who hasn't? I'm just jumping on the back wagon. Those guys are no joke. I don't have anything against anybody there. Horse racing and hunting.

Those guys are no joke. That's all we got. It's an awesome county. But we also have some accessories, boxes, you know, bear boxes, solar packs, and external boosters for cellular cameras. I only got a few of those. So, anyway. All right. So, we've got that. And then also, what do we got? Guns and muzzle orders. Oh, yeah. Anybody besides tags. Of course, we'll help you find guided hunts and things like that that we normally do here at Epic Outdoors. What's the next draw we got to look forward to coming out? Results. Let's go through the last three or four of those that we got to look forward to. Is it going to be Wyoming probably on the 18th for antelope and deer? I think that's probably going to be – Is that the next one? The first one to come out at least hard. Oh, I guess Oregon, I guess. Oregon, right? Yeah, Oregon we still have coming out. 15th. At some point.

Maybe I'll give you a tag. Sometime soon. Did you apply? It says June 12th for Oregon. Wow. Wyoming, of course, is going to be June 18th for deer and antelope. I'm just – just bump the brakes. We got Arizona that's still going to come out sometime in July. Yeah, they just announced here's the time to update your card. That one was one that was super quick. I project Arizona's going to be quick. Before – yeah, well, they were on the elk and antelope. We'll just have to wait for them to send out the email to update your card. It says update your card and it'll happen the morning after that deadline. Idaho could surprise us by the end of the month. They did get their sheep out in about a week. Sheep, moose, and goat. Have you got your refund? Me neither. Wow, that was below the belt. No, I haven't got two of them. So, yeah, no. All right. Keep going.

We're talking about results, not refunds right now. We don't get refunds on the deer. They're usually hand in hand, but, hey, no problem. Anyway. Yeah, we still got Montana antelope floating around out there too. Did you apply for that, Jason? Waiting for that one to come back. And then, of course, Utah, you can still buy points for everything if you're still looking to apply and miss that deadline. Yeah, when's the deadline? Nevada, you can do that as well. Is that the 19th for Utah? Yeah. Is it the same for Nevada? From now to the 19th. And the 10th for Nevada. And the 10th for Nevada. To the 10th? Yeah. Yep. So, it's only open like a week in Nevada. Yeah, third of the 10th. And this is basically the second draw, which there's some marginal tags left over in Nevada. I'm just going to say that. But it allows you, if you miss the first draw, right, to go and apply for anything.

Apply for points for anything. Sheep, antelope, elk, everything's open, even if, you know, it's not just deer, but, you know, left over. And that's how Utah is too. You can apply for your points for anything. It's the antlerose application period, but you can apply for points for anything right now. And there's a few people that are grateful for that process. Yeah. That's the process. We've been dealing with them. I had a buddy from high school hit me up, 23-pointer here in Utah that missed it. Elk? Deer. Oh, geez. He needs to hire somebody like you, Wyatt. He missed the deadline. So, he got his point yesterday in Utah. I wouldn't call him a really good friend. Wow, Wyatt. Wyatt has a lot of friends. How does – was he mad that you let him miss that, or was he just – I can't believe I missed that. How long ago did you know about it? We didn't even talk about it until after the deadline.

Like, hey, did you end up putting in, getting to burn your points this year? And it's, oh, crap. He went quiet? Yeah. Jeez. Okay. Yeah. Well, he's grateful for that. He gets our text, right? Our text alerts. Well, he knows Wyatt F. Bowles. I mean, that's his alert. Blessing or a curse, you never know. That's a good point. All right. Well, I'll bet he doesn't forget again. No, he won't. The thing is, though, he's – I wonder why he didn't – he can draw a lot of tags with 23 deer points. Yeah. I mean, there's only a couple he can't draw in the state. Points are more important than tags, remember. Oh, boy. Right, Logan? Yep. Yeah, but he can tell everyone he's got 24 points now. He's got masks. At least I can count that high. Yep. Jeez.

Josh, you got to use your toes? All right, everybody. I don't have anything else. You guys got anything else for the four weeks? Cruising into the weekend, John. We're doing four-day work weeks now. You know, we're working four-tens, Monday through Thursday. If you want something, need to call in, do it Monday through Thursday here at Eric Outdoors. So, it's been a long time coming. Here we are, another summer. Another summer scouting upon us. Need to buy anything or even optics and all that. You can buy it online, and we'll process it Monday morning and get it in the mail. So, don't – if it's on your mind, get on there, jump on there, buy it, whether it be cameras, whether it be optics, whether it be ticket purchase, whether it be a membership, whatever. You get a ticket for referring somebody now. You want to refer somebody? You want to join now?

You get a ticket and order giveaways as well right now. Yeah. That's awesome. Next week could be a good week to probably buy some optics. Why's that? Could be a good week next week.

There's some exciting news coming. It's always a good week. We always got something exciting going on here at Epic. Yep. Right? Yep. So, if Devin gets back, who knows what we could be talking about. I want to call it, but I don't know what to ask. Well, there's nothing. I mean, he had an eye checkup. We've all – that's been well documented. We don't need to go into that. But the thing is, the prognosis is good. We're hearing.

But who knows? A lot can happen. I had one thing I was going to bring up in the bear discussion, but it wasn't confirmed, so I didn't bring it up. But I did look it up, and it's accurate. But recently, this was this year, in May 29th, published. So, family reunion. A guy shot a bear in Saskatchewan. Okay. Okay? Brought it back. The outfitter said, if you freeze it, then it's going to kill all the parasites, right? Yeah. He froze it for 45 days. Well, that's only a week ago, John. Yeah. Fed it to the family. Okay. This is last May 29th. This just came out. The story just came out. I heard it on the radio, and I just wanted to verify it was right. Anyway, six members of the family got the trichinosis from it. Two of them didn't even eat the meat. It was just grilled with it. Like they ate. They ate vegetables. They ate cauliflower cooked in the same pan. It was cooked on it.

And, yeah, they didn't notice that it wasn't fully cooked. If you freeze something for 45 days and it doesn't kill it, you should eat it. And then you take it to 300 degrees. Yeah. And it still gives you trichinosis or whatever. So they're saying especially meat from the northern latitudes has this strain that's developed to withstand cold temperatures. And the naysayers are going to say, well, how was it taken care of before? Did they freeze it? Hide on for 45 days. Yeah. Well, so the article is saying it can survive for over 110 days. Frozen. Frozen. So do it 111 days. Yeah. Freeze it 111 days and you'll be fine. Get a big freezer. If you do it long enough. I'll eat it next summer. If you do it long enough. Are you planning on eating yours? No. Have you looked at the rigs? Yeah. I don't think yet. Yeah, we're good. You're fine? All you have to have is pelt, head, skull, whatever.

A few other things, maybe. Yep. Scal bladders and stuff. Scal bladders and evidence of sex. Liver. Here's the skull bladder. Here's the evidence of sex. Here's the hide. Here's the skull. Liver spleen and the right lung.

And my forced use permit. There you go. There you go. All right. All right. Jeez. Are we done? Let's talk about real food. I mean, jeez. Real food? I mean, yeah. Not bear meat. All right. Go ahead. No, I don't. It changes to anything. It changes to object. I mean, I know a lot of people that love to make chili meat out of bears, and that's fine. But, I mean, yeah. People are fine. There's a lot of people. My guess is what happened, John, was when I used to work for the BLM, the Forest Service over here. So you've worked for the BLM, the Forest Service, and the Game and Fish? Oh, yeah. I have a problem. I can see where Wyatt's coming from. Every department. Yeah. Wyatt hates it. Yeah. You guys are right next to each other. Yep. So what were you about to say? Anyway, as I was working for them, what we would do, we'd have every now and then, you'd have, it was for the fire crew stuff.

And so there would be like barbecues while we're waiting for a fire just over here. And while we were sitting there waiting, we'd have these barbecues every now and then. Well, there was a lot of like tree hugger hippies also in that line of work sometimes, and they're like all vegetarians. So we'd always buy their grass or fake meat grass protein burgers or whatever. We'd always sit there and just rub burgers all over. You did? Oh, yeah. It just, you'd have drippings all over. We'd just drip meat juice all over. And they're like, these are the most amazing burgers I've ever had in my life. You know, you just get them at Walmart. You're welcome. They're 100% soy. You're welcome. That's got bear fat in it. Okay, well. Aren't you a jerk? I did. I can never make them this good at home.

Well, we have a. Whatever works. I do have time for a quick bear story. Yeah, yeah. A gamey bear story. I got one. So we were. Does that have to do with Wyatt? Clint Mecham. Clint Mecham. I don't know if you guys remember him. Oh, yeah. I met him. He's an awesome guy. Used to work for the division with him. He was just phenomenal. Lions and bear stuff. Anyway, always going out. Outing with him over by Alton on the Ponsagant. On years when there wasn't a lot of acorns, you'd have a lot of bear problems. It seems like acorns, bears would eat them and stuff a lot, so you wouldn't have any bear problems. But on the years where you wouldn't have acorns, we'd always have lots of bears getting into camps, cabins, all that kind of stuff. Well, they were having a scout camp over there one time, and they called and said, hey, we've had this bear that keeps coming into our camp.

So we went over there, and we went and set a trap. We'd seen this bear track, and it looked like a really small bear track. So we went over there and set a barrel trap to try and catch this thing. We went up from the camp a ways to hopefully not bring it in. Well, anyway, we set a camera up, and we went back the next morning. Whenever you set up a barrel, you have to check it every day. We went back the next morning to check the camera, and there was this giant bear. What? And you bait it up and make it all smelly and stuff. And there was this giant bear, five times the size of the bear that was actually in their camp. It was like, he was so big. Yeah, so big, like just his butt end was hanging out of the barrel. And he was getting stuff, and the door would try and close, but it wouldn't close on him because it wouldn't fit. Too fat. And we were like, oh, no. So what was it?

Did he have a back blade sticking out? Or did he actually get in there all the way? No, he didn't get in the barrel. No, he just backed out. He was still there when you pulled up. No, he was gone. We just had the trail camera pictures of him. Anyway, so now you know. We need a bigger barrel. It was like this scout camp. It was some kids, like they were, let's just say a lot of them, I think it was the first time they'd ever camped in their life. And the leaders, not far off. Let me show you some pictures of this bear that's been around here. It was like a ward from up north. And so anyway, we didn't dare tell them. We're like, oh, geez. But you guys, like, you guys got to be really careful with your food. We didn't tell them anything. We were just like, you guys got to be really careful. And anyway, the next day, we went back the next morning. No check to get no bear. And I left.

And I told them they'd cook breakfast and stuff. I said, you guys got to clean this stuff up. And I left. And at about 1.30, you get this frantic phone call. The bear's back at our camp. And we shot it. I'm like, oh, no. So I called Clint. We both took off to get over there. And I go over there. And it's this one-hander laying there in the dirt. Thank goodness. Well, what happened was they went on a hike. They didn't clean up their Dutch oven and stuff. They came back. And this little one-handed bear was up on top of the camp chef eating out of the Dutch oven. And they dumped it. So the one leader did have a .30-06 rifle in his Suburban. Isn't that against Boy Scout rule? I guess Boy Scouts, the Zwine-Normer, no more. So it doesn't matter. So he gets in his Suburban. And they didn't dare, like, get close to the bear.

So he gets in the Suburban and goes, like, driving at the bear to try and scare it off. And it just, like, looks up at him or whatever. So he just, like, leans out the window and blasts this thing right off the couch. Blows it right off the camp chef. Right off the camp chef. So we're sitting there. There's all these kids. And they literally, I mean, they were as great as they could be in the mountains. And Clint's, like, sitting there, like, all right, boys, you're going to help me skin it. We're going to skin it right here. We're going to take care of it. And we start skinning it. And then all of a sudden he's, like, any of you boys eat bear meat? The bishop's, like, no, no. We're done. We're done. Clint's, like, these boys need to eat bear meat. He's, like, cuts a backstrap off into little pieces and gives them a stick and tells them to start cooking this bear meat.

So they're cooking bear meat over a fire. And the bishop's just losing his mind because he's just, like, I know what's going to happen. We're going to go back. And one of them's going to get up in front of the whole crowd and tell their mom. But there was a bear in camp. And then we ate it. And then they're going to Google it. Like, John did. And we were, like, don't even sweat it. Don't even worry about it. That reminds me of the chicken story on my scout camp. Do you remember? I've said that on a scout camp. It's one of my favorite stories. I just don't remember it. I don't think you've told it. Okay. Well, say it. It reminds me of that. Like, you're worried about mothers. Yeah. That's all you're worried about. The boys, it's a memory for life. They're turning into men. Yes. Exactly. So, yeah. I was involved. Scout, master, assistant, whatever it was. Probably, I don't know, in my past.

Quite a while ago. But one of the merit badges they do is wilderness survival. All right? And you've got to go out, make a shelter, sleep in it for a night or two. I don't remember the details now. But you've also got to, you know, supposed to scavenge for food and whatever. Provide for yourself. Provide. But that's easier said than done. But then you have a contingency plan.

Yeah. So, we had, I think it was, I don't know, four or five chickens.

And, I mean, you can't have, this is summer, you can't have them rock a blue grouse because they're not in season. I mean, there's certain things, and if you don't catch fish, where we were was really not catching fish. So, really, there's not much, they can eat grass, but I mean, they may, you know, insects. But it's not, you're not, they're not, they're going to hate this. Squirrels, yeah. So, we're like, all right, we're going to have to turn them loose, you know. And if they don't find anything, we're going to come back and say, hey, we've got plan B for you. And so, yeah, we turned, we had a little talk to them and said, hey, this is educational. I mean, kind of, you're, we're going to turn these loose up here, and your job is to catch them. We're going to kill them, and you're going to cook, we're going to build a fire right there and cook them. And, I mean. That happened.

And we all, what happens, they're all hands, what have you also got to you? Usually, fry up with your chicken. You got eggs. You got eggs inside. No, then they, yeah, then they, so it was, it was quite, you know, eye-opening. A lot of these kids. How'd they kill them? Their chicken comes from a store. Most of these kids, it just comes at the store. Now they see how it's, you know, and then they go home, it's the most awesome thing. They tell, and then they tell their moms how they ran down chickens, caught them, killed them, plucked them. Wring their head. It's not like you have guns. No. They have rocks and sticks, but we told them this is, we just said it's, you know. You're rocking the crap out of your chicken. Well, we just said, this is not barbaric. This is fun. This is functional. You're starving. You got to kill something. You got to eat it. You got to know how to build a fire.

You got to cook it. Just like what you're talking about. They tell their moms, we get yelled at, of course, and so we didn't have a chicken chase next year. You were released. Huh? You were released from that calling. So, those of you that are looking, yeah, looking for a good, getting out of an elder's gorm or something calling that you don't want to. Have a chicken run. Kill something on a cookout.

I did that in Australia a bunch, but usually the Polynesians would do that. Would buy pigs and then they'd run a knife through it and would, you know, hung it up. It's good. You didn't care. You just wanted a meat feed when you're down there, but they're good at that. All right. All right. Well, is that good? All right. For boys to men. For boys to men, we labeled it right there. All right. That's the podcast name. It's better than anything with Beaver County in it. Right? I'm just saying. Better than drawn attention. We're not an anti-Beaver County. I know we'd probably listen. You wouldn't know it. Jason's from there. I am. I think they're awesome. Guys are legit. I don't want to hunt against them. No. For a different reason than Josh doesn't want to hunt against them. All right, everybody. Have a good weekend.

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