In this episode we are joined by Hunter Hansen with Zeiss Optics to announce their new products. We have been blown away by the quality and build of the newest SFL binoculars from Zeiss. They stand up to the very best in the optics industry, while maintaining affordability.

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Hey everybody. Jason Carter. Adam Bronson. Of course. We got John here. Josh Logan, and a guest, hunter Hansen from Zeiss. Welcome Hunter. Thanks. Happy to be here. Yeah, we’re happy to have you. Long old stroll from Beaver County. Huh? Josh. We, Josh, are we gonna crush the Beaver County guys today? We like Beaver County. Of course we do. ’cause they’re right here in the room. Ah,

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We love it up there.

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Josh. All sudden. Viking.

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The Viking Bold. The Viking doesn’t wanna start a brawl face to face. I’ve ran in,

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I’ve ran into several Beaver County people since Steve and they’ve, they’ve, and they’ve, it was funny because they kind of called me out and like, in fact, one of them, he was like, what’s it gonna take to get you to wear this Beaver County hat? He had like a account for like Beaver High School or whatever. And I said, get me one and I’ll wear it, or whatever. Anyway, he was talking about it. He is like, yeah, I just wish you wouldn’t say so much stuff about us. And I was like, he’s like, I know, I I wouldn’t if you didn’t gimme a reason. He’s like, I know.

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He’s like,

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It’s all true.

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It’s true. That’s they

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Embrace it.

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Did did he give you his name? Is he won’t. I’m going to say who he was. I won’t divulge. But anyway, that’s, and that’s knows my roots because that’s where my roots are

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From. Hear this

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Are from too. There’s some, some of the most hardcore hunter hunters live in Beaver County. Wouldn’t you say Hunter? Yeah. Pretty competitive. It is, isn’t it?

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It’s no joke. That’s what I mean.

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They take the hunting seriously

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And fishing on minville who limits first and how many you can do and then go throw ’em in the freezer.

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It’s the way it was. How many family fish did you catch you

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Possession to? I

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Got more, you

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Know what I Exactly. I’ve heard all the stories. There’s,

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There’s more stories than you’ve heard. I,

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I, yeah, I’ve, I know.

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Yeah. The last dime will be spent on hunting the last dime. Don’t you think Hunter? Like generally I think so. Is significant. Yep. And so, and they have the best gear, which we’re talking about Gear today. Perfect guy from Beaver County. That’s why we’re in business. That’s why we’re in business. That’s right. So, and so I, my point is they have their priorities straight anyway. All right. As we get cranking here, just wanna welcome you to the Epic Outdoors podcast talking everything Western big game. Bronson. We did a podcast yesterday. We covered Colorado on a few other things. We may even end up diving in on someone I don’t know who know. There’s questions every day. We’ve been field questions like crazy. But anyway, wanna show, wanna little throw a little shout out to Fierce. We appreciate them sponsoring this podcast. They’re the main title sponsor. Thank you. Fierce. We have a great relationship with them. We also sell their products as we do Zeiss and, and Hunter knows that work with him somewhat on a daily basis, especially Josh ’cause he’s kind of in charge of that division. But anyway, thanks to Fierce. They also use the Zeiss products in their long range rifle setups. Pretty much, I wanna say exclusive exclusively, but I don’t know if that’s true, but a significant portion.

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There’s, there’s a lot of fierce rifles that are in this office that are

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Topped with Oh, what do you mean? I

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Scope that I know of

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99%

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Of them probably

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Hudson, are you already, are you offended? What do you

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Mean? I’m the only one that’s killed something with the new V eight.

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Well,

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Come on.

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Some of us are still trying to kill stuff.

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That’s true. Just lucky enough that I had tags from 24 that rolled into 25 technically and Yeah, ORX

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And

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Yeah. Stuff like that.

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Anyway, yeah, so Fierce firearms. They do have a long range shooting school. You can see that they grace the back cover of the March issue of Epic Outdoors. So anyway, go to fierce firearms.com courses, ice. We’re talking about some new products today that technically aren’t out today, the buzz. So that’s why you’re gonna hear this.

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By the time you hear this, they’re out. That’s right. So,

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So

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Today’s April, they come out today, they come

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Out today. Today’s April 10th. I wish today was April 10th.

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Yeah, that means we’d have Colorado deadline over with and a bunch of other stuff. I know.

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Be working me deep in magazine stuff, but hey, whatever. For all information, go to zeiss.com/hunting and check out all their quality products. We, we sell ’em again, we sell ’em here at Epic Outdoors. And anything and everything to do with Zeiss, the optics are second to none. Some, some of the stuff, it’s unbelievable. I know the coatings and things like that, and we can get into that a little bit, but have the other brands reeling just a little bit. They know that that’s, that’s very, you know, kind of a treasured little company secret or whatever. But man, the brightness and clarity and things like that that it offers just incredible. So

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Yeah, last time, last time we had Hunter here, we were talking about that V eight riflescope and this Yeah. We didn’t even make it out the door before. Adam had got

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A couple ordered, two of them, two the other one’s in my safe for a gun that’s being built now. So I’ve, I buy ’em perfect so that I don’t have to hunt ’em when the gun shows up. I love

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It when Adam buys stuff. I just, I just love it. He goes into the shop and it’s like, Hey, you know, your money’s good here, boss.

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It’s just, it’s just, it’s just the, it has has everything That scope has everything and, and it’s better for my aging eyes. You know, I, I have noticed a little bit of difference in, you know, all glass too is

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You’re not an old man in

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I’m not, but I mean, it doesn’t matter that he, the old color wins a little bit, but, but I’ve noticed the, the better glass, especially in rifle scopes on vinyl too. The stuff that you, you use to acquire in very crunch time, killing something, either glassing something or killing something. Your eyes, I think just can make up for a lot more deficiencies in quality glass. When you’re younger, your eyes are younger. As I’ve gotten older, they don’t stuff that, that was, I thought fine is not as

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Fine, is not so

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Fine. I can’t get his scripts. And so that I

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Remember guiding awesome. You remember a guiding guy like back when I was a kid, just, I mean I was, you just find it. He’s right there. I was a jerk. He’s right in front of you. I was here. I remember a specific client, I mean just family friend, you know, kind of a wealthy guy, but he’s older, right. And I’m just a kid. I’m like, what do you mean you can’t see him? He goes, the sun’s in my eyes, you know? And I’m like, shoot him anyway. Like what are you gonna do? You know, shoot the three, it’s okay. Squint. You know, and so he, here you shoot him and he gives me the gun and I’m like, well, I’m not gonna shoot him, but I’m looking through it and I’m like, oh yeah, it was pretty rough.

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Yeah,

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There’s no tolerance for inadequacies, you know, you’re just like, gee, just look in the sun. Who cares? You know? But anyway, the older you get then you start realizing what them old boys will talk

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About. Well, and I also, I’ve shot a lot of the v sixes as well, and, and they don’t ha hadn’t had the illumination. So this is, this adds a higher end glass with illumination and other features with it. But love,

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That’s true. Yeah. The V ford line, I rarely

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Use that illumination, but there’s times, there’s, every once in a while you need something just shooting into a dark, dark north slope and low light evening black cross hair and black.

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Even Josh and Josh is like, well, you’re a decade younger than we are. Okay. Maybe not. Gosh. Josh was like, Josh took his gun and it was a, it had a red.in it illuminated and to s watch. And he was like, man, that one’s really nice. I think Josh would use this stuff even if he didn’t need it. Bright noon, Sunday daylight. He turn that elimination on.

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I actually, I, I, I have and haven’t like, especially with like my wife and kids, I always turn ’em on for them. Always sometimes.

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So you don’t have to see the cross hair.

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And so I’m just like, yeah, see the little red thing, put it on the deer, you know? Yeah. And it, so even yeah. During the day. But there’s,

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But I remember that deer particularly, you were like, it was an overcast, it was evening you had rolled in. You actually, this was a gift. You, this was a straight up this smashing, it was a smashing crap. Yeah,

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Exactly. Sometimes you have to take those. I spent a lot of lonely nights by myself in,

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I don’t even know if you got the 10 Northern Nevada right before Yeah,

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I know. I’d set my tent up and I almost thought I only have 30 minutes left. I, and I was like, I should go glass. Just, anyway, I ended up killing a

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Deer that night. Yeah. Then you just laid around and stoked the fire just to say you did it.

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I was, it was funny. I actually went back and looked at the timeline from when like, I actually took a picture and send it to my brother. Like, here’s where I’m camped. You know, like, and I took a picture of it when it was all set up and I left and it was 40 minutes later when I took a picture of that deer.

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So anyway, it was overcast dark. Yeah, dark body, dark, radical and silver. I remember that illuminated kind of

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Saved you. Oh yeah. And I thought, I, I don’t think I can make this shot. And I was like, I’ll come back in the morning and find him. I’m like, who knows where this deer could be in the morning. It was, you know, in Nov starting to be November when they’re gonna start moving. And so I was like, no. And I, I remembered, yeah, I’d have illumination on this scope. I’d never had illumination on a scope before. So it wasn’t something muscle memory that I turned to. And I was like, oh yeah, I turned it on. Oh, okay. Yeah, this deer’s dead shot toast. Wow. So, yeah. Anyway. Geez.

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Another example how technology is ruining the sport.

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Exactly. I apologize.

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I apologize. We got an old man in the hills that otherwise wouldn’t have been successful and that deer would’ve lived another day. I,

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I apologized to him, I thanked him and apologized and said that was too easy. I should’ve been able to do this.

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You feel guilty.

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I getting my pack. You’re getting a feed my family.

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I gotta tell the wife how I haven’t been successful yet so I can hang out in the hills for a while longer. Yeah,

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Exactly.

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Alright,

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So speaking of ioscope, the V six as of now can come capped windage.

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Oh, there you go. Nice too. No kidding. Yep. Nice. That’s awesome. That’s great. So you guys, speaking of innovation, you know, hunter, I guess I’ll put you on the spot just a little bit, but you were like, Jason, what’s it gonna take to have you have one of these parabios around your neck? And I’m like, it’s not for me, it’s not cost. It’s like I want some of the best glass possible. Yep. And this very well, maybe we had ’em side by side the other day. So I guess that’ll just Jim Field, we’re just going to dive right into what we’re really talking about. We’re not talking about rifle scopes, although, no, the rifle scopes to me is what it kind of set the stage for my affection for ze. It’s, there’s so many options. And so, and all the different radicals all and the craftsmanship, of course these long range guys, a lot of ’em are, are putting ’em on their long range guns and they’re extremely affordable. Okay. So, so there’s this balance. It’s, it’s some of the best optics there is and and quality product with price. Right. Right. Yep. Because it’s expensive nowadays. Right. And so anyway, then, so there must, and that brings us to the binocular,

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The

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Official unveiling. What do we have here?

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So here we’ve got the 50 millimeter objective line of binoculars and SSLs. We make ’em in the eights, tens and twelves. Okay. So they’re, the good thing about these fifties is they’re not typically like you would think of a 50 millimeter binocular. They’re as small and as light as a 42.

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Yeah. So

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They aren’t big bulky, that’s for sure.

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No, you really feel like you’re holding 42.

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I think about some of the first like 10 by fifties giant or twelves. Yeah.

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Are we talking like my favorite red fields that I have in my office? Yeah. I grew up on ’em.

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Uch, they were

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Home. Hey, they killed

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Many big bucks. The twelves, the twelves are coming in at 30.8 ounces. Oh really? I mean, you’re right there with that. Pretty much every four, two

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Of it. What’s the difference? We have a little cheat sheet. Yeah. Just because of the, it’s new and we’re looking at all the different parameters of the optic, but what’s the difference between the 10 and the 12? They,

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They’re the weight. The weight. You’re about four ounces I wanna say. Oh yeah, you’re right. Four

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Ounce inches wider.

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Yep. I think the eights are 30.2 and then the twelves are 30.8. So

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I don’t see a pair of eights here. And that’s like my favorite glass ever. Right. Bronson? Bronson, you’re into it. No, no. You’re

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Gonna be, I don’t own a pair of eights. No, you

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Need

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To

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No. Anybody out there eights or eights or no joke?

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Well if you hunt dark timber or white tails. Yeah. But I don’t do that a lot.

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Bugling bulls and, well, I do chasing,

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I stick with tens and call it a day.

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You’d be surprised at how far you can glass with eights and feel good about it. Yeah.

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If there’s certain units, but like as, as infrequently as we draw like a Boulder Mountain, Utah elk tag in this state, which is never Okay. I mean that’s a unit you might want. These are

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Extreme examples. I use mine on a regular basis. Okay. Not daily, but regular. Okay. Alright. So anyway, we’ve got the eights, tens, and twelves and the 10, the 10 power bino. The west was built on 10 power bins. That’s just kind of the way it is. Right? Right. That was around the neck, all around common chest bino. But then, you know, as people have, I don’t know, I didn’t, maybe it’s the product lineup too, but as higher power anos have been more and more clear, people have learned how to use ’em, long distance, glassing, tripod, glassing, all of that. Then we come in with the twelves, fifteens, things like that. Yep. So we have a 12 here, 12 by 50. Basically the same, all the same glass, co coatings, things like that. Technology and all of

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That. Yep. So we’ve had the SFL line for a few years now. Had ’em in the 30 40 and then now we’re just bumping up to 50. So forties are awesome. Phenomenal. But right now with the fifties for, you’re getting everything of a 50 millimeter in the weight and size of, of a pretty much 42. Wow.

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It’s awesome though. You

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Forget that they’re fifties in your hand. Yeah. You don’t

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Even think, you don’t even think about it.

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No, you don’t. They feel Yeah. Like the size of a 42.

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Yep. And I should

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Go over there and get my old fifties. ’cause I mean they, like you said, they were, they were a foot tall. I don’t know how tall, tall are these? It feels like they’re what, 6 7, 6

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0.3 inches. There

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You go. I mean, they were a foot tall, you know, and they felt like you were doing something, you

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Know? Yeah. You, you wore ’em around your neck and you didn’t, you didn’t have to work out. I didn’t even

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Have length caps. I didn’t have a length cap or nothing. I, I had a, you know, it was like a sunburn right there where

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In

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Around my strap, around my neck. So anyway,

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But so the other day we had the pleasure to go out and look through these. We went out and first we went and took care of business, getting a pastrami burger first, got our hands all greasy. Yeah. And then went

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Out, stuck our hands in some bowling balls. Yeah. Went

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And got put our, our

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Greasy myths all over, all over these for about an hour. We had a little field trip. And usually when something new like this comes, we, we generally almost, I don’t know if it’s a rule, an official rule or unofficial rule, but nobody talks. Nobody says anything. Go silent

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Until we’ve all Yep. Had a chance to, because

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I got a chance to look through ’em. We set ’em up out here for just a second, making sure everything was good to go. And, and John and Logan and I, Devin even snuck over and Devin’s got some magic eyes now and he even looked through ’em, but it was like, nobody say anything until we’re all magic

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Eyes. Oh yeah.

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He’s

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From the Lasik, LASIK,

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His, his eyelashes done or whatever.

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Okay.

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But,

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But we can crush him ’cause he’s not here. Yeah, exactly.

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That’s the rule.

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Okay. And so, no, we had LASIK and stuff and I mean he, you know how that process has been. Oh. But anyway, he went and even looked through him, but yeah, nobody said anything and, and we went out and just set ’em all up and we obviously the hills had ’em compare. Yeah. We went, we wanted to look at ’em out like we would be using them. And some of the words I heard was, whoa. Ooh. Ah, man. Did did you write those down? We didn’t. We tried to get some video of it, but needless to say, all of us was no joke. It was extremely impressive. Yeah.

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We worked. Yeah. There’s no question about that.

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And to be honest, I honestly was as shocked as you guys were. Yeah. Like when we had the pre-production pair. I mean, you guys got your pair before I did. Yeah. But really? Yeah. Worse before a

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Day’s the way it’s supposed to be.

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Do you wanna come look through ours? Finally,

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Hunter. Finally,

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Next time you’re, you wanna let, just give us a call and come down. We’ll schedule an appointment.

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I did. I came with that. We’ll

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Let you by lunch. How’d the bowling out? But yeah,

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You were wild. The same thing, huh? First

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Time. Yeah. Comparing them. I mean, we had the pre-production model, so we were comparing them to other things. But to say that these can compete with any binocular on the market.

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It’s accurate. It is. I was blown away. I’m not gonna lie, Chris. I

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Was blown away. Big field of view. I don’t, I mean, I’m not using technical terms, but Right. John, you kept

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Talking about that feature.

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Just felt like it almost, it feels like you’re looking at a little bit bigger screen. Yeah. You know, and I don’t know why. I am sure there’s a technical reason, but they’re just really easy to look through.

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Did you guys watch Devin when he was looking through when he was doing this little, what about the

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Ostrich? Well,

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He was kind of doing this. He was trying,

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Well he was testing the same thing John’s talking about, I think,

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What’s the terminology? You

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Don’t have? The black circles appear

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As as quick and easy as

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You move your

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Head. Well it was move, but like he says, when you move your head around, that image is solid versus the others. And it’s based off of eye relief and who knows. 14 other weird scientific variables. Yeah.

00:16:51:27 –> 00:17:01:06
We’ve all looked through binoculars where you move your head just a little bit and like one eye is totally black and you know, you gotta have your head right in the right spot. Well, yeah, Devon’s doing the ostrich thing and

00:17:01:25 –> 00:17:03:22
Probably it’s more,

00:17:04:07 –> 00:17:05:07
It, it was kind of an hemo.

00:17:05:11 –> 00:17:07:07
It’s his spirit animal. The bar now. Yeah.

00:17:07:22 –> 00:17:12:15
Oh that is, it was the bar now. He was doing that. Yes. And the eyes and everything. Yes. And,

00:17:12:20 –> 00:17:14:22
And then he was like, holy cow, this

00:17:14:22 –> 00:17:24:17
Is awesome. He was, no, he just, and he said it, and actually they were against the Ros and, and this outperformed that way. He, he said, there’s no movement. There’s like, these are, you know what I mean?

00:17:24:17 –> 00:17:31:13
Well if you look, I don’t mind the, the eye portion of this is, it’s big gigantic. Yeah, it’s giant. The eye

00:17:31:13 –> 00:17:32:22
Portion. Is that a, you’re talking

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About we’re getting technical. The diameter of the

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Yeah,

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Whatever. The lens’s closest to your eyelash. Yes. I couldn’t think of we making your eyes

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Hunter.

00:17:44:01 –> 00:17:44:13
Probably can clarify.

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We’re wrecking this podcast.

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No, it’s perfect. It’s perfect. Because that’s what everybody, nobody really understands Optics. Yeah. Super deep. Unless you go talk to some birders, right, John?

00:17:52:17 –> 00:17:53:13
Yeah. Oh

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Yeah. Is this when you guys shot the birds in front of

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The birders? Okay, I gotta tell this story. We,

00:18:00:06 –> 00:18:01:03
We gotta come back to what

00:18:01:03 –> 00:18:22:00
We’re talking about. Yes, we do. But we were at a birding convention and Hunter came along to help us out and to represent, you know, eyes we we’re talking to. He’s telling me we got this new gun set up, like we’re gonna die. This bird getting an outpost view. I I was killing some birds. Like it was awesome. And I was like, oh, oh, people are coming up. You know,

00:18:23:18 –> 00:18:26:15
Hey, don’t want to offend the birders. No,

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No.

00:18:27:16 –> 00:18:37:09
But, but it’s the, their demand for quality helps us as hunters. Yeah, absolutely. And these guys are looking at every little stitch on a feather or whatever. And so anyway, it’s, it’s called plumage.

00:18:37:09 –> 00:18:40:09
Yeah. Okay. Oh

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Really? How do you know?

00:18:41:27 –> 00:18:44:17
Just one of my ornithology class.

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Anyway. Pretty awesome. So

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Yeah, eye pieces. They’re, they’re big. That’s one of the first things that I noticed about ’em. And like the eye cups too.

00:18:53:08 –> 00:18:54:09
Not looking through a straw.

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Yeah, you’re not looking through a, so it’s a nice big eyepiece. You’re looking through on some previous models of Xi some of the eye cups felt like they were a little restricted. Like it kind of came in a little bit and cone shaped. Yep. These aren’t, they’re nice, they’re thin, they’re flat. Nice big. So when you just go to look through ’em, it’s amazing.

00:19:09:25 –> 00:19:13:23
Yep. Especially if you’re like me, I don’t like my cups out. I like ’em.

00:19:14:11 –> 00:19:15:25
Gives you a little more field of view.

00:19:16:10 –> 00:19:31:27
It does. I I’m just used to one dial, like there not, not this, you know, not that where you gotta put a raccoon, you know, impression around your eye to get down there and see it. But I like it a little bit. Maybe it, maybe it dampens the a coming in on the side just a little bit. Yeah.

00:19:32:02 –> 00:19:34:03
But I like a little, but I don’t like ’em all the way out.

00:19:34:10 –> 00:19:34:28
No, exactly.

00:19:35:10 –> 00:19:40:28
So I got this little fine, you know, anyway. Yeah. Just exactly where I like him match.

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But I tried that the other day. And even, even just like with whatever that quarter half turn that is to get it to where I like it, it’s, it didn’t change the, the, I’m not gonna define what we defined a minute ago, but

00:19:52:27 –> 00:19:55:18
I think the technical term was, it’s the picture. The big screen. Yeah,

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The big screen. That’s

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Right. The

00:19:57:18 –> 00:20:04:10
Big that was, that was one thing you said, hunter with eye relief with these is something that they were really, they were really focusing on. Yep.

00:20:04:28 –> 00:20:23:13
Yep. So the, the exit pupil, that’s one benefit that you get from the 50 millimeter. It’s, however the math that makes that up is, I think it’s pi times, it’s whatever, it’s some term, right? Yeah. But so over a 42 you get 42% more light transmission from

00:20:23:16 –> 00:20:32:11
A, just going to a 50. Yep. Oh, no kidding. Yep. Well that, and then that in turn relates to clarity, brightness, crispness, performance.

00:20:32:11 –> 00:20:38:10
Anytime. I feel like anytime you, the, the more light you can get coming through in the performance you get is a lot better.

00:20:38:18 –> 00:20:54:15
I was talking to Josh, I used these last weekend just out looking for deer, checking ’em out. And it was right at dark, I mean dark, dark. And I felt like my eyes were dilating when I was looking through these. Like I take ’em off and it felt like, it felt like I was looking through a thermal almost. Like when you pull your eyes off, you’re kinda like,

00:20:54:15 –> 00:20:56:12
Really? Who would know that? Josh?

00:20:57:18 –> 00:20:59:01
Yeah. The penguin people. Right.

00:20:59:11 –> 00:21:04:13
Exactly. Garfield, he was so grateful for January one, you didn’t have to hide it anymore.

00:21:07:10 –> 00:21:07:25
Oh geez.

00:21:10:17 –> 00:21:11:19
Good stuff. But

00:21:11:19 –> 00:21:41:18
Yeah, that’s one thing I, I feel like too that just, yeah. The eye relief on it and, and the magnification, you know, we were comparing it next to some other twelves and, and it actually, to me, you know, there’s always this gamble or this thing of, well do you, do you, whether you do field of view or magnification, that sort of thing. And you know, when I go to look through like a pair of twelves, fifteens, fourteens, eighteens, whatever it is, that’s what you’re wanting is the magnification. And I felt like it was more magnified, more so than any of the other twelves we were looking through, even though it’s not Yeah. But

00:21:41:27 –> 00:21:52:10
Because of that Yeah. Objective field view. Objective field of view. So yeah. I was impressive. Also, these twelves come with the tripod adapter. Yeah.

00:21:52:10 –> 00:21:52:17
Which

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Is huge. And so that’s, we’re talking, let’s just throw it out there. You’re talking 160 to 180 adapt depends on the brand you go with. Yep. Yep. And, and so unbelievable. And yet you’re right at a, at a know, regular advertised price of 1999 for the twelves. Yep. Is that right? I just

00:22:09:12 –> 00:22:11:00
18, well, 17. Nine. Nine for,

00:22:11:14 –> 00:22:27:22
For the eights. And then 17 nine. 17 9 9 for eights and tens I guess for both. And then 1999 for the twelves. But anyway, and the difference would be to me more or less the adapter tripod adapt. Not, I mean there’s not much there slush to, to go into the optic itself, so. Yep.

00:22:27:25 –> 00:22:31:05
And of course the tins, they are tripod adaptable. Yeah. Also,

00:22:31:15 –> 00:22:33:01
And eight probably are too. Correct. You’ve got your

00:22:33:01 –> 00:22:35:25
Own stud and adapter. You got those, we can sell ’em separately. So

00:22:35:25 –> 00:22:54:12
Yeah. That’s pretty rare to have. You know, the, the 15 h HDX has come with that as well. It’s pretty rare to have a binocular come with a naper. ’cause that’s always kind of the little bit of the thing. I got the buys. Okay, now I gotta figure out the adapter and what I adapter am I using or this, that and the other. And you don’t have to worry about any of that. Right. You open up the box and it’s there. Yep. And it’s, it could be up to a 200

00:22:54:18 –> 00:23:15:09
Value for what I’ve always liked about that the fifteens and now we have it with the twelves, is having that adapter in there with it. ’cause everybody’s wondering, do I go with the, you know, the rubber band method, you know, the old universal where you can throw anything on it or Yeah. Or buying it separate or which 1:00 AM I gonna buy? Things like that. Now you’re just gonna get it. You’re gonna throw a stud. It comes with a little stud.

00:23:15:12 –> 00:23:16:19
That one fits fifteens too.

00:23:16:28 –> 00:23:17:28
Yep. Same apple, same thing.

00:23:17:28 –> 00:23:18:12
That’s good to

00:23:18:12 –> 00:23:36:24
Know. We had ’em up there, threw ’em on the tripods against everything else. Of course we sell everything no matter what a guy wants. Right. And so any, anytime something new comes out, Josh, you’d thrown ’em up the day before and Josh is like, ah, yeah, yeah. Adam, buy, look through those. You gonna be slightly impressed. I was

00:23:36:24 –> 00:23:38:21
Trying, he was doing his best to stay

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Quiet, like you said. Yeah. And now you can outfit your whole family. That’s what I like about it being the affordability, having the best optic possible at, at you’re dang near a thousand bucks cheaper. Or if not a thousand dollars cheaper considering a, a competing brand and clarity. You know what I mean? So I would say you’re getting into that affordable range where everybody should have one. If you’re, I mean, if you’re looking to upgrade whatever, you know, optic you have, if you’re looking to upgrade, this is where you should look. Right?

00:24:09:01 –> 00:24:19:03
Yes. And it’s like when we talked probably about a year ago, we talked about price on these and I, we could have been a thousand dollars more, I think. Yeah. And sold these and it’s, it’s hard. Well, and

00:24:19:03 –> 00:24:31:10
I remember you guys asking us should we put the tripod adapter in there or not? Yeah. Like we were just, just in theory. Yep. If it was a perfect world, how would this look? Yep. Price wise and, and having the option of the adapter and things like that. Yep.

00:24:31:12 –> 00:24:35:22
So the price, don’t, don’t let it confuse you. These No, definitely compete with

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Anything. Well, exactly the

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Best of the best. Yep.

00:24:38:02 –> 00:25:09:01
And, and when you look at, the biggest thing for me is when you look at, you look at quality for that’s what, that’s what I’m gonna judge. I talked about it. My eyes are getting older. I, I need, I want the best because I feel like I need the best. And you definitely feel that you’re right there. Really. And so if you’re saving a grand or whatever, if that’s an just a bonus, I don’t look at it the other way around. Of course, everybody in their life phase of optics, evolution, you know, we can only kind of, we’ve all done it. We afford Jason you hunting with red fields. I had Bausch Lom or whatever we started with years ago.

00:25:09:01 –> 00:25:13:04
I got both. I got the Bausch LOM scope of Red Redfield. But I and you, you gradual and it was an unbeatable combination. That’s

00:25:13:04 –> 00:25:38:25
Right. You gradual actually go up to what you can afford or what you need. And also then evolved to how much you’re actually hunting. If you go hunting on a five day general deer hunt once a year or something, you know, maybe, maybe it’s not as critical. But when you hunt a lot or end up guiding or spend so much time behind the glass, you just, quality trumps everything. And then price is usually second. But then when price is actually a lot cheaper, it just makes it,

00:25:38:25 –> 00:25:44:28
It’s a no brainer. A no brainer. That’s right. I would say there’s no, I could, I don’t know that we could tell a difference. I’m just gonna say it. I think it’s

00:25:45:04 –> 00:25:45:22
Might be our

00:25:45:22 –> 00:25:49:12
50-year-old, the best glass of the best. It feels that way. And

00:25:49:21 –> 00:25:53:09
I just realized something, what, by the time this podcast releases, you’ll be 50,

00:25:54:03 –> 00:25:54:27
Happy birthday,

00:25:55:08 –> 00:25:59:15
10 by fifties. 12, 12 by fifties, 10 by 58 by 50 should be mine.

00:26:00:12 –> 00:26:05:01
That’s right. I mean, I thought that’s why you guys came out with these Exactly. 50 for the 50

00:26:05:01 –> 00:26:06:05
Year olds. Thanks Bronson.

00:26:07:01 –> 00:26:09:00
I just realized that John, you and I hit it last

00:26:09:00 –> 00:26:10:06
Year. Yeah, we hit it last year. Your turn.

00:26:11:26 –> 00:26:12:24
So I just,

00:26:13:02 –> 00:26:14:23
I’m letting the old man in. I

00:26:15:01 –> 00:26:15:15
Yeah, I,

00:26:15:23 –> 00:26:16:25
It’s fun being an old man.

00:26:17:14 –> 00:26:17:23
It’s,

00:26:17:28 –> 00:26:19:27
We get say what we want. We’re not liable for it.

00:26:20:05 –> 00:26:20:13
Yeah.

00:26:20:24 –> 00:26:23:04
Hey, we’re both hitting milestones. I’ll be 30 by the time you,

00:26:23:25 –> 00:26:25:22
Are you serious? 30.

00:26:26:19 –> 00:26:27:11
Geez. Logan,

00:26:27:11 –> 00:26:28:16
What are you, 24? I’ll

00:26:28:16 –> 00:26:29:11
Be turning 20 by the time

00:26:31:15 –> 00:26:35:21
I believe that Josh, you’re, you’re older than 40. You

00:26:35:21 –> 00:26:35:28
Just had a

00:26:36:22 –> 00:26:38:23
Decade difference. Three

00:26:39:10 –> 00:26:40:22
At 44. Yeah. I’m

00:26:40:22 –> 00:26:41:03
Not too far

00:26:41:03 –> 00:26:44:23
Behind you. No, that’s not a good round number for an objective. 44. No,

00:26:44:27 –> 00:26:45:04
No.

00:26:46:14 –> 00:27:17:23
So, alright. I, I am with Adam though, like looking through ’em. I, I couldn’t tell you what the difference was. No. You know, no. Like I said, there’s some field of view type things or that would you say, okay, this one’s got a bigger, bigger field of view, this one, but this one feels more magnified. And if I’m picking up a 12, and that’s what’s awesome about a 12 is if you, you can handhold these very easily, but yet if you want to put ’em on a tripod, you can get a long range glass out of them. Or just a regular handhold on the chest bin. No, it’s kind of doing two two for the price of one so thing. So

00:27:17:23 –> 00:27:19:05
Don’t need a extra large harness.

00:27:19:05 –> 00:27:22:19
Definitely. Definitely. Number one when it come to the ostrich movement.

00:27:23:02 –> 00:27:23:11
Yeah.

00:27:23:20 –> 00:27:23:29
Yeah.

00:27:24:24 –> 00:27:26:06
Or the barn. Barn.

00:27:26:12 –> 00:27:36:04
The barnell. Yeah, for sure. Like, I, I couldn’t tell the difference. And so if you’re really wanting the best glass out there at probably one of the best prices that I’ve ever seen with a 12 for the quality you’re getting your

00:27:36:25 –> 00:28:13:16
1999. It’s, it’s not even, we’re not even talking about member pricing or something like that. Yeah. 1999 for a, for an advertised price, it’s cheap as it gets for what it is. Yes, absolutely. No question about it. Well, 1999 includes the adapter, let’s call it 1800 plus the adapter 18 quarter. I mean, is there something cheaper that’s No, that’s that quality. No, there’s not No way simple. What I also like is if you ever been disappointed that you went a nickel Moore and spent just a little bit more to have the best of the best versus say going finding a $1,200 vinyl or 1500 vinyl Yeah. You would always spend the money. Yeah. When, when you have, if

00:28:13:16 –> 00:28:23:18
You’re looking to stretch it to Yeah. If you’re in that, you know, price mid to lower end optics category right now of what you’re using and thinking about stretching these, you’re not gonna a nickel,

00:28:23:18 –> 00:28:24:00
You’re

00:28:24:00 –> 00:28:25:27
Not gonna red it one bit. Absolutely

00:28:25:27 –> 00:28:52:23
Not. Versus versus now I’ve got this Bino that’s whatever, you know, not worth as much trying to sell a bino when you upgrade. Just go with this. So you, for a nickel Moore, you’ve got the best of the best. You’re not gonna need to upgrade. You can have for years and years and years to come. So, yep. Pretty awesome. Anything else you wanna talk about? I mean, obviously I, this stuff just doesn’t build itself. You guys are probably working on some other products out that’ll come out in six months from now or, or a year?

00:28:53:07 –> 00:28:53:13
Possibly.

00:28:53:25 –> 00:29:01:05
Possibly in a year. Yeah. Outside of that, that’s kind of where we are. But they’re always is the big one for, they’re always working on something. Yep. This

00:29:01:05 –> 00:29:08:00
Is huge. We knew you guys for us guys have been working on this for a couple years, been brewing. Yep. So it’s, it’s awesome. Yeah, we, we’ve

00:29:08:01 –> 00:29:13:11
Love, I think Josh signed an NDA when we were talking about this a while back, didn’t you? Some kind of a non-disclosure.

00:29:13:11 –> 00:29:13:24
Don’t recall,

00:29:13:24 –> 00:29:17:23
Don’t remember who said Signature was on it. There was one presented.

00:29:18:21 –> 00:29:22:29
But Hunter, if he squeals between now and the 10th, I’ll let you know. Okay. We’ll get him in court.

00:29:26:09 –> 00:30:21:06
Pretty fun. We appreciate being on the cutting edge of this kind of stuff. Yeah. We like the best of the best here at Epic Outdoors. Our guys. That’s what they want. They’re hunting the best animals. You’re spending money on tags, money on applications, nothing’s cheap anymore. The investment that goes into our pastime of hunting Western big game and everything that goes into it. All the years of planning and preparation and you know, all of our kids and everything that’s going into it. You know, this is just this and, and, and you’re looking through Binos. Binos are how you find the, and, and make good on those tags. It’s just a huge piece of equipment. Something that you have to have, something that you want the best of, the best that you can afford. And I would say this would fit the bill for all of our clients checks, all those boxes, if not their kids too. Yeah. I mean I, my kids I’ve outfitted them as ice. Yeah. Yep. And, and they’re gonna wanna upgrade speaking of upgrades. So anyway, anytime something new comes out, they’re chomping at the bit

00:30:21:12 –> 00:30:22:27
And they’re older and a little bit more wise,

00:30:22:27 –> 00:30:35:01
They’re gonna need to pick some more weeds. I know. I mean, they’re 24 years old. We’re gonna have to pick some weeds around the yard. They got professional jobs. But anyway, this will be right up there alley. So it’s awesome.

00:30:35:16 –> 00:30:40:07
Anything else we haven’t covered that you think’s noteworthy about these? I mean, other than what we’ve talked about, hunter,

00:30:40:17 –> 00:30:44:11
I think we pretty well covered it. I mean, you guys are pretty much like I am. Look through ’em and

00:30:45:00 –> 00:30:45:10
Let that

00:30:45:10 –> 00:30:46:13
Speak, let that speak. Yep.

00:30:46:18 –> 00:30:48:25
Yeah. What have you got for Hunts? Coming up,

00:30:49:02 –> 00:30:52:15
Going to Idaho next month up in the panhandle to hunt bears. Oh. Oh

00:30:52:18 –> 00:30:52:27
Geez.

00:30:53:06 –> 00:30:53:15
Yeah.

00:30:53:15 –> 00:31:02:29
Trying to get a Canadian crossover up there or what? Why you so far north itself? That’s, there’s bears in southern Idaho, but hey, you probably got a connection up there. Yep. That’s,

00:31:02:29 –> 00:31:04:28
That’s good. Just got invited, so that’s

00:31:04:28 –> 00:31:05:01
Great.

00:31:05:14 –> 00:31:05:29
That’s awesome.

00:31:06:00 –> 00:31:10:13
Jason and I went there years ago in one of your, one of your fa one of our, your fondest sons fondest Idaho

00:31:10:15 –> 00:31:11:13
Hunts ever right

00:31:11:22 –> 00:31:13:15
Up on the pack River country. Yeah,

00:31:13:28 –> 00:31:17:15
We were, we were in Packer Pack River. Yeah, Sandpoint.

00:31:17:21 –> 00:31:19:18
Yeah, we were young Bucks.

00:31:20:00 –> 00:31:22:05
Was it Sand Sandpoint Sandpoint. Yeah,

00:31:22:10 –> 00:31:24:18
Bon Ferry. Sandpoint Drew way up

00:31:24:18 –> 00:31:26:10
There. So we did a smash. We were

00:31:26:10 –> 00:31:30:04
Trying to get a Canadian crossover there, but it was a pure ciro. Well, I

00:31:30:04 –> 00:31:30:06
Mean,

00:31:30:23 –> 00:31:33:28
I say that, I say that Ines, everybody that we

00:31:34:04 –> 00:31:40:09
Trust me. Tangs Shiraz. Trust me. Those aren’t the char those aren’t terms, but, but they are for Adam. We’ve

00:31:40:09 –> 00:31:40:29
Been there though. Yeah.

00:31:41:10 –> 00:31:44:06
Anyway, drew it, that was back when they first

00:31:44:06 –> 00:31:45:03
2007.

00:31:45:03 –> 00:31:50:09
Yeah, they went to two week stratify. Two week seasons. And I’m like, well, nobody’s gonna apply for this November hunt. And

00:31:51:12 –> 00:31:56:28
You drew that on top of what, what else? We’ve said this 50,000 times on the park, the best deer tag of your life.

00:31:56:28 –> 00:31:58:09
Couldn’t get that moose killed fast enough.

00:31:58:09 –> 00:31:59:29
Couldn’t get it fast enough. Throw the truck and drive.

00:32:01:03 –> 00:32:06:22
And then I also realized not all 43 inches are created equal. This was just a, this was just a bull boy.

00:32:08:18 –> 00:32:10:25
It was heavy on our back. Your deer was almost as wide.

00:32:11:02 –> 00:32:11:11
Well,

00:32:12:28 –> 00:32:15:23
275 inch, 36 or

00:32:15:23 –> 00:32:23:13
Five. Hey, I’m on the board with a Shiraz best eat, best eaten thing on planet Earth until you killed your ORs. Yeah. How’s horse meat?

00:32:24:01 –> 00:32:25:06
It’s not horse. I mean,

00:32:25:15 –> 00:32:28:11
Oh, deer. Don’t know if the picture, they flatten their tails.

00:32:28:15 –> 00:32:31:13
Yeah, they all flies off each other here. These rib, they’re,

00:32:31:13 –> 00:32:34:09
They’re parked like this so they can fly, hit the flies off each other.

00:32:34:12 –> 00:32:39:29
You look at these rib mustangs out here with ribs, they, I guarantee they don’t taste taste like what I eating. No,

00:32:40:18 –> 00:32:44:22
We probably need to have, we probably need to bring a piece in and have John I’ll do it because John’s

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Probably

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No. Oh, France

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Wife,

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Wife would cook it up and eat it. For sure.

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You’ve

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Indulged in it. I don’t know if your wife would cook it.

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We need

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No, she wouldn’t cook. It let’s, she’s

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Meat

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Raw. Oh, whatever it is. They call it

00:32:57:16 –> 00:32:58:00
Blue, right?

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Oh yeah. Blue. A nice sear on it really quick and then

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Raw. I wouldn’t even say it’s a nice sear. It’s like a slightly just, if it’s warm inside, she’s disgusted. Yeah,

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Well,

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Yep, yep. No, and I’m, I’m a convert man. That’s as rare as you can go. Really? Oh, it’s so good. It’s, it’s so much better. Kinda

00:33:17:00 –> 00:33:18:21
Like the mar oysters we had the other day.

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Yeah, there you go. It’s like you’re eating shoe leather, you know, if you got a, a medium tank. Well, steak is like,

00:33:26:06 –> 00:34:17:10
I agree. Medium well, but anyway, here in America, we like to cook our food. Yep. All right. Well, any, anything else? We’re excited. I mean, this is awesome. Anytime there’s new SKUs, new products and, and, and not just, there’s some stuff I just hit delete, you know, but then this is the kind of stuff that really revolutionizes what people are doing and their buying preferences and whatnot because they, it should, it’s a compact vinyl that’s high, high magnification, best of the best coatings. Bright clarity offered in the eight, 10 and twelves. It’s just a no brainer comes with a, with a tripod adapter. I mean, on the twelves, like, and at a price point, everybody can afford that work that’s listening to this podcast. Yep. And, and should definitely consider it if you’re, if you’ve got also kids or a wife or anything like that and you’re upgraded. We sell a lot of binos that way

00:34:17:10 –> 00:34:23:18
Too. Well, how many we, you guys just kind of came out with that HDX Bino. We sold a pile of those

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And those were priced the same, like geez. Yeah. Pricing was incredible. Yeah.

00:34:27:16 –> 00:34:31:01
9 99 retail. Yeah. Incredibly tough to beat at that price point.

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Yeah,

00:34:31:10 –> 00:35:05:22
Exactly. If you’re in that, if you aren’t quite in this price point or you have Yeah, some, it’s more, I guess call ’em a more casual hunter. Newer, you don’t want ’em to drop a 2000 pair of binos off of a rock bench, but they can be okay with a thousand dollars. You can go with those. Because we’ve all been with kids. Oh man. We started with the terrors on those years ago. Right. The same reason they were awesome for Yeah. When they were little they thought, holy cow, they are for the money. They’re amazing. They really are. But they, they start getting, they start looking through other stuff that we have whatever in like, oh, mine, I want those.

00:35:06:16 –> 00:35:08:09
Get a job. That’s

00:35:08:09 –> 00:35:08:13
What

00:35:09:03 –> 00:35:25:18
Get a job, kids. That’s what I tell my kids. Well, I don’t have to, they work hard, so. Alright, well, I’m good. I feel good about it. I I’m excited about it. Appreciate you spending the time with us here today. Absolutely. Coming from Beaver County, dealing with a guy from Pengu, which is Yeah. Challenging at best. Do

00:35:25:18 –> 00:35:31:07
This is what, this is what Logan does. Dog’s dad does all the time. Try to help people get along, right? Yeah, that’s

00:35:31:07 –> 00:35:31:10
Right.

00:35:32:03 –> 00:35:59:28
Interesting. They diluted interesting that his dad went into mental health. There’s a lot of demand over there. People, people know. Never ending job right there. All right. Okay. Sounds good. Well, we appreciate it. Give us a call. Yeah, they’ll they’ll be in stock. Yeah, we’re gonna have ’em in stock call. Call us here at Epic Outdoors 4 3 5 2 6 3 0 7 7 7. You can email us as well and we’ll go from there. All right, fellas,

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