EP 228: John Bair and Hunt Expo 2022

and people just gotta come i mean they gotta come to the expo you know you've been on both sides of this tell us a little bit about the conservation side of it yeah when john says sold in a room it's over anything to do with western big game welcome to the epic outdoors podcast powered by under armor hey everybody jason carter adam bronson chris coming at you from southern utah chris is always at the keyboard makes me feel comfortable when you're there chris if you're not ever gonna be here let us know we probably just quit the podcast all together you know what i mean well we wouldn't even start one i mean that's comfortable is an understatement we wouldn't be doing we didn't even doing one hey bronson look around this little room here what's different chris has got wild kingdom in here he's uh he's uh

bought a new place so he sold his old place and in limbo all of his dead stuff showed up in here he's got a lot of awesome a lot of different species in here most of which are actually mulies mulies and i actually have a bedroom in the new house that's got elk and a few deer in there but yeah all the stuff that i was like wanted to put up and elk doesn't fit in here so be careful you know jason's wife janna i mean he starts surrounding himself with all his deer and all that and she made him take some home because i think the statement was if they're all around you your heart's going to be there and not at home yeah she well for the most part where your animals are is where your heart is and your heart should be home right so be careful careful chris mackenzie could see that hey here's you're surrounded by all these loving awesome mule deer that's that's where your heart is oh you

might want them home i still got a few at the house okay well these are the big ones though i'm just saying i i know your collection these are your best that's a good looking bear by the way bronson you remember oh yeah we were there yeah 10-4 freaking smashed it in montana dark chocolate that isn't a milk chocolate bear that's a dark chocolate yeah well what do you call it chris dark dark dark chocolate yeah what do you mean what would you call that i don't know it's got a little red tint i've just always called it chocolate i don't know yeah maybe a little cinnamon chocolate do you like dark chocolate they say it's actually healthy for you um it's growing on me is it i used to hate it when i was a kid but i mean you're becoming an adult boss there's a reason it's the last one in the in the bag those all get left true i was like 15 little candy bars of all dark chocolate at the end

yeah those ones i don't like milky way i'm not a fan you know i think anyway whatever whatever whatever well what are we going to talk about today here we are mid-january having we're having a little bit of snow today but it's been a long time since we've had some we sure need more but big flakes here and there yeah so big flakes well anyway so yeah well i guess it's just that application time frame and we've got the hunt expo coming up those are five dollar tags bronson you put in five bucks for anything and everything that you want to apply for and it's a separate draw basically here in the state of utah it doesn't take into your points in into account your points or anything else it's above and beyond yeah that's right and uh they do that before the regular draw deadline will come out for you or be deadline due for utah that's right that's a mouthful so in

other words if you drew a hunt expo tag boom you could pull your application utah and amend it and go about your merry way go hunt one of them and then you don't do points for that species in the regular draw but uh they are changing it last year you remember the expo got canceled so they waived the in person validation this year you've got to apply online uh not going to be any paper applications anymore when you get there that probably took too much time and hey it is the 21st century for heaven's sakes filling out a freaking legal hopefully there's some kiosks there yeah so got to do it online and you do have to validate in person or they will not be entered in the draw so if you're applying online if you remember doing it last year and you're doing it this year you you got to come to salt lake and

validate your application in person or they're not going to be entered in person do you remember us checking the draw results we've talked about this before bubble jet printers oh yeah on the division windows kiosks outside them not even kiosks so that was way before kiosk but you know on the window we'd everybody be standing in a group wondering who drew all right well anyway that's what they're doing in person forcing you to come be together at the expo which is good we're going to be there going to have a giant booth and we got the best of the best for the last couple years bronson because of covid people haven't been able to showcase these trophies we got multiple 250 inch plus deer it's disgusting yep that and for the first time ourselves going to be having a pile stacks upon stacks of optics there so plan on stopping by and seeing us making a great

deal with you take some optics home with you to prepare for this year's hunts piles yep you bet so all right well anyway let's uh you know speaking of the expo we got old john bear he's pretty famous here in utah he's one of the he's the auctioneer you guys hear his voice anywhere and everywhere when it has to do with hunting auctioning things like that and uh i don't know he doesn't run the place but it kind of feels like he does doesn't it well he likes to think he runs the place of course when you have a mic you could say what you want there's a mantle of authority that you feel like you you're in charge he's fun to visit with let's give him a holler and just see if he's ready to rock and roll here on february 10th hello hey well how are you you got your voice warmed up boss or what oh man i'm telling you

it's you don't need to warm it up this month if you uh doesn't get if you smoke if you smoked i wonder how deep you could go yeah how low could you go well you know when you live in casinos for a month during january doing all the shows you don't have to smoke everybody smokes around you so well i guess that's your therapy that keeps your voice in shape i thought they'd be i thought they'd be i don't yeah i don't think it's a positive i mean it's you know i didn't i kind of forgot smoking was a thing until you know you walk into the casino and yep there's guys smoking so and your clothes are like that for the whole trip whether they're clean or dirty they're already dirty yeah it's you know it's it's yeah you got to come home and haul everything to the cleaner well we we were trying to tell people

that you're pretty famous but nobody's believing us up there at the hunt expo yeah well no there's there's no fame here i'm just the nerd that gets beat up in the hallway at shot show by the epic cruise oh that did happen that did happen hey so tell us about some of these tag prices of course you're i was in reno and i was watching you in action carefully avoided eye contact in the auction so uh i don't i don't get called out i don't like it when you call him out no i don't but because i don't have a mic i can't fight back you're helpless he's got the mic he's got 1500 2 000 people you know he's got their attention you're just down there you're just down there trying to eat a creme brulee or whatever they've got you for dessert you know well there's only so many people you can make fun of and know that they're going to take it right bronson you can you can jab him a little yeah

bronson can take it i'm here to tell you though not everybody can you know some people just they lit you up oh yeah they don't like it you know some feel offended if you don't mention them and some feel offended if you do so you just kind of gotta ride the middle hey john i'm just telling i'm secure enough in myself as well as our relationship as hunters and gatherers in this industry you don't need to make me feel good on a mic you don't i'm just telling you you don't need to call me out anymore i'm not really known for making people feel good on the mic but you don't need to give me a shout out to think i gotta make sure adam knows i like him and i noticed him in the room don't you don't need to do that just go about your business but hey how about the freaking rocky tags in reno my gosh well you know uh for years it was uh you know if a tag sold high you knew somebody

had seen something and they were watching a deer an elk or sheep and i think this year there were some guys that just decided they wanted to go hunting and they didn't care how much it cost them and i don't know that all those had to do with a big animal i think you know i think the wyoming tag i mean you know 305 when it's normal yeah one or 125 or 130 even high years you know but yeah you're right pinned up we didn't get a see in person didn't get a sit down and people didn't get a drinking person and show how big of men and boys and women they were and in front of a john bear so they were ready to do it they were some penned up bidding excitement you know we had that room in reno stuffed with 2 000 people and you couldn't take their money fast enough i've never seen anything like it you know

i've been part of some pretty big auctions but that one that was pretty well that one was impressive were you able to retire off that one john no you know people always see up there you know you're where it talks you're selling tags for you know over a quarter million dollars and they think you're getting rich off of it no they pay me a couple hundred bucks to do the auction so i did not retire on it a couple hundred bucks well and all it does for us guys sitting down there so i guess we'll call us normal blokes we're sitting in the audience is you get your wife looking and say what are you doing wrong yeah right i mean you're not supposed to take your wife to those how come you can't buy one of this what are we what's going wrong yeah what's going on i'm like i thought i made a good choice yeah i thought i made a good choice you got a house do you like your house do you like

your car okay that's enough well you know we uh you get i don't know it's like you know that that's a whole other topic but you see guys that have worked hard their whole life they've been successful in business and they love to hunt they don't care how much it costs them and uh you know there's a lot of people that uh don't like that jealousy is an ugly thing and yet people wear it so proudly and the first thing i hear when i get home is you know how do you deal with all those rich jerks and that actually a lot of them are pretty good guys and uh you know most most of them work their guts out to get to this point in their life and it's i'd much rather them spend their money on hunting than anti-hunting or something else because there's a lot of people that make those donations to the anti-hunting groups and i love to see the money in the industry i love to see people spending it on

conservation and i'll never be able to buy one of those tags i mean i felt pretty important the day i dropped 1500 bucks for a parker antelope i was gonna say i was gonna say i knew you bought an antelope tag so you you you did qualify your statement good i did you know i did and i you know and now those tags that i felt you know i felt like i spent big on at 1500 bucks or like way more than that so but i'm you know well hey if if hunting is worth if those animals are worth something people are going to find a way to protect them and grow more of them so it's good so speaking of which you know you've been on both sides of this tell us a little bit about the conservation side of it you've seen how good the money's used and whatnot different projects and and and things and so kind of helps you rally behind it a little bit too oh yeah yeah you know and every time you know

you can get on facebook instagram whatever anytime the division of wildlife makes a decision that somebody doesn't like they'll say oh it's all about the money they just want more money so if somebody gets on their you know gets on the computer and looks and sees that the divisions cut 100 tags off their favorite unit they're not going to draw this oh it's all about the money well they just cut tags which cost them money so it's not all about the money you know on my on my days in the wildlife board a long time ago in the rack never at any time did we make a tag decision on whether to cut or add permits on money it just you know it just that's not how it works but when we sell these conservation permits you know i've had people say well why do we let people call in why do we have you know programs set up as some of the big ones where people can bid online that you know that doesn't

seem fair you should have to go to the event and bid in person and i think well i guess i can kind of see why they would want you there at the event it makes the event better but if we're going to sacrifice a few of these tags to the money gods i think we owe it to everybody involved to get maximum make money maximum dollars they're for to make money absolutely they're not yep and yeah we've all seen what some of these internet the last couple years i mean you could make an argument you don't even need to have a banquet and we want banquets because we like to sit around it was only about the tag you don't necessarily need yeah the last couple years have kind of taught us some of that some of that there's something about being in there and having high bidders looking at each other yeah for certain

tags i will i will say that the big sheep tags no question yeah you know when you got the montana tag and you got half the time the guys that are bidding on it are sitting in the room and they don't want their buddy to know they're bidding on it so they're they're bidding online they'll sit there with their hand down and they got their phone under the table and they're bidding online and they don't want their buddy three tables over to know that he's running them up we've been there so yeah so yeah but it's you know but it's you know you think about it uh how much money has those have those permits raised it's huge and that's why utah and i'll just pick on our home state here a little bit here in utah we do more habitat work more acres than the rest of the world combined and it's because we sell more tags

than the rest of the world and that's how we fund it uh you know i was talking to uh we had dinner the other night with some nice folks from i think it was south dakota and uh they said uh one of the dakotas and they said you know our governor wouldn't uh wouldn't sign the budget until they got a million dollars for habitat work because we just can't function without like a million dollars for habitat work and it was a huge thing a million dollars a lot of money but here in utah we have raised many many millions of dollars every year yeah for habitat work and if we go to the governor and say listen we've got a pro you know we need we need uh conservation help you know we've raised all this money well we've raised so much money we can leverage that now and say look we're we have the expo we have all this kind

of stuff we're doing all this economic development for the state of utah through hunting fishing in the outdoors you got to help us out well you can do that you know well and then the agencies blm uh which stands for the bureau of land management and and the forest service uh leverage their money too though you know you can make four million stretch to 10 or 12 million when you start getting agency money involved with pr funds and or agency funds so yeah great nice to be able to do some things it is absolutely you know and if you have if you have you know that that money in your coffers we raise it you know at the expo is through conservation permits uh you can get a lot of things done you can sit at the table with the big players like the bureau of land management the forest service the u.s fish and

wildlife all these and you can get a lot of things done and i mean if you go sit out at the table and start making demands and they say well what are you going to bring to the table or i got six bucks well you're not going to get very far right you know but it's you know is it a rich man's game no does it take some rich men willing to play the game for the rest of us to benefit yeah it does and i'm glad there's a lot of them that are willing to it does not hurt i don't think it hurts hey i'm applying for these five dollar tags you know what i mean yeah there's another pool of money too that get absolutely so you know and i'll and i'll tell you this you know and and for years there's always haters that you know get on their little soapbox we don't know where the money goes we don't know where the money goes look that is the biggest that is the biggest crock on the planet

conservation permit money and the expo permit money and people mix those up all the time there's the 200 expo permits and then there's you know a couple hundred however many i'm i don't know how many there are this year conservation permits they're very separate okay they're totally separate but that money is the most audited money on the planet every year you go through it goes through committees on how you can spend it it has to be kept in a separate account i mean it's it is the most looked at money on the planet it is well i remember when i was president utah finnaz there's a very there's a lot of checks and balances in there i would have to sign you know a habitat project transplant project as well as a dwr representative usually the director's office somebody in there it was uh and then you

know you go through i've sat through meeting after meeting where all the conservation groups all the dwr and habitat people in there and they allocate those funds and and then there's stuff that comes throughout the year but there's nothing that i could ever write a check for unless it was from the 10 that our organization got to keep for marketing it but the 90 is all there's such a so many statutes and rules of how to how it's spent checks and balances there yeah it's there's a lot of people that i guess just maybe not informed if they're making the statement they don't know where the money goes because there's reports out there ad nauseum you can read about how every dollar spent you know on that well let's be honest some people don't want to be informed because you can't get on facebook and

throw rocks if you really know what's going on you know let's talk about something positive let's do let's talk about something positive how'd you like shot show jason shot show was good the positive thing there was less people there the negative thing is a lot of those people that weren't there had covet well hey it was not you know what i love about we got to see we got to go into booths and talk to people that otherwise would be slam busy with a line of people waiting for them just you know rows and rows and rows of technology oh yeah you know are we talking about utah technology every kind of technology is a shot show and then you walk across the street and there's you know we had sci there we i gotta go to both of them and it's just yeah it's it's awesome but it is there's a lot of stuff there's a lot of stuff out there there's a lot of change and a lot of a lot of

smart dudes making cool products and it is it's awesome yeah we're staying a lot of good a lot of good second amendment uh supporting red-blooded hard-working americans that are very smart and have a lot of ingenuity and you know when it comes to the tactical stuff it's amazing what they're i can't believe how many gun manufacturers there are hundreds like and and how many that you don't even have ever heard of yeah and they're selling legit high numbers oh yeah they got it yeah it's it's impressive but you know so yeah we've got uh dallas far club was pretty good uh i don't get to see as much of that one because i just fly down there do the weatherby auction we run around see a few friends and we didn't make it to that when i heard it was off uh you know as far as attendance i yeah i thought where we

were coming off of a quiet year that they would be slammed but it was no question it was off i heard some of my buddies down there say it was great and some say it was a little slow but i and then reno sheep's week was i mean the auctions and that were insane the attendance might have been off just a little bit because of covid but all my buddies that were outfitters out there said they did good business we're real happy safari club i felt like was pretty good shot show was obviously the attendance was down a little bit but still a lot of fun what do you think the expo is going to be like moving to that one what's new or what do we think we expect there here here's my here's my prediction for the expo i like it i like it i think i think we're gonna blow the doors off with the do you i really do you feel it's brewing you feel the just the missing out and everybody's coming to play

and the fear of missing out you can only tolerate that so long and people have just got to come i mean they got to come to the expo i just talked to the guys and made sure i had the right number of vendors right now we are set up on the floor for 468 vendors and they are all sold out with a long waiting list so wow you know and uh we got here to you know you have an idea if that's up uh yeah i think it's up i think it it's up every you know they find ways every year to move things around and the building's only so big but yeah that that other wing keeps growing well we're gonna have to talk to spencer and tell him we need a bigger building so where are you gonna do that where's that i don't know i mean where do we build it cedar city i don't know yes bring it it but you know and so expo is gonna be awesome we got i'm i'm here to tell you i have never been

more excited about the expo and it all boils down to one thing what i get to be the emcee wednesday night and introduce the legendary diehard cowboy i love it i'm more excited about that than anything else so yeah we i think we're excited didn't we talk about that a few weeks ago chris and like a week and a half and chris has been keeping it quiet well it was a while back he he got the gig we'll call it that the is that the is that the official welcome back that is the official welcome party for everybody now you know and then we have uh there's a couple other concerts going on lanco is the big one on saturday night and i told him i says you know that i only have so much sway at the expo i'm just the monkey on the microphone when it all comes down to it but i told him you got to swap those concerts i want chris saturday night

yeah can open up for us i want chris saturday night and uh well i'm still working on it so chris you got to stay flexible yeah we'll we'll stay flexible for sure

well well other than that because that is a highlight and it's new for us and we know chris hey we can get his autograph any day at work but other people now we're going to get that chance i'm thinking i want it right now chris come here yeah i want one side my hat

side my hat he's good oh chris is awesome i'm so excited to you know to have him and his band there to play wednesday night then uh thursday night we're doing something a little different instead of having the welcome back uh party like we usually did then we're having more of a banquet type thing where people can come we've got a bunch of games we've got some stuff like that that people can buy tickets to uh just kind of a you know like a chapter style banquet but i don't believe we're going to have an auction there just a bunch of games kind of have a fun night have a good dinner friday night uh well friday during the day we have a pretty big auction yeah and uh sell a bunch of tags sell a bunch of cool stuff there my buddy barry's gonna come up and help me out with that auction uh and then friday night it gets pretty serious we have saturday yeah friday night is when

things start to get pretty serious i think we got about 50 big tags we're gonna sell in the auction friday night i expect you guys to be there with your hand in the air adam be there boss yeah you better find me find me and find me often i will i will you just you know and uh and then uh we have uh marcus latrell lone survivor is going to be our keynote there friday night friday night and uh yeah we're going to have the big auction so saturday night uh the auction's not quite as big maybe 30 items and 30 tags and then we're having the lanco concert after that so they got a speaker that night sometimes that's like a tba almost the last minute that's uh yeah i don't think um if there's a speaker saturday night i don't i don't think so and the governor's going to be there friday night for a few minutes too just to welcome adam there to make sure he knows he's appreciated hey i got a picture

of him last year in our booth uh before he was governor so it's kind of like you know he went to uh north sampie high school just up the road from where i went to high school in manti and that's our rival high school so me and him always throw a little shade back and forth about that he's a north sampie hawk you know hawk huh versus a templar versus a templar versus the templar samantha templars you know and then just down the road you got the gunnison bulldogs yeah there's a prison in gunnison now right oh yeah the gunnison prison i says you know they they build the prison in gunnison the warden and all the guards live in manti and north sampie make sure there's plenty of inmates

you laugh but that's true turf wars i love it yeah and then also saturday during the day we're doing the sheep camp drawing used to be the full curl society we've renamed that rebranded it sheep camp and we got geez we got more tags than we've ever given away people can come in by drawing tickets and we're going to send like i don't know nine ten eleven people i'm not sure how many i don't know 13 i don't know what it is is gonna send a bunch of them sheep hunting get them addicted yeah refuel the addiction they already have we'll see i know so yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be a similar format you guys sometimes usually still do an auction and a little bit of a program there it's you know i think this year didn't they like well i bought my tickets a month or two ago to that because you had to like pre-buy them and i

don't and there was a set number or something like 1250 or 1500 yeah i you know i'm never gonna and i don't know if that was just uh you know i think what they've done also is i think they have done uh away with the awards and stuff so let's come in get your tickets throw them in the bucket sit down yeah it's sometimes try to shorten it up a little bit because it's kind of that deal when we first started it there was like two or three hundred people in a room and now you know the fire marshals giving us the side eye like how many people you think you're gonna stuff in there you know and i think that's why they did the ticket sale thing but that's good too yeah we're there for one thing at that point and it's uh drum yell and scream or be mad at your buddy that won and then go back to the exhibit hall and uh that's yeah go back and hang out in the expo booth you know the

epic booth yes the epic well we'll have to have you come by the booth while we're up there and maybe with a hot mic or two ourselves sure sure so we can definitely do that but no it's i'm telling you the uh the expo last year you know we did the online auctions it goes okay uh you know things still sell pretty good but you can only act excited looking at a computer screen for so long oh yeah i watched y'all last year and you weren't having fun on any of the auctions all spring but i mean because yeah you're you're looking at yeah you and troy and you think you sell it and nope then the thing clicks and so then you're like oops sorry nope i didn't sell it that came in late it's like it took a minute you're not to get used to that john what i think john is not really in charge when he has to do one of those because the computer's in charge yeah you know you got a

computer programmer controlling your life and it's yeah and when john says technology yeah when john says sold in a room it's over all right yeah but everybody can see it there's no question as to you know who it's at who it is and all that and i mean let's be honest we're we're social creatures we like to get together it's fun it's fun to watch guys be excited it's fun to watch somebody come out of nowhere off in the back corner that nobody knew was gonna bid and just stir things up with a big bid it's just you know it's a lot of fun and i like to do that to john every once in a while well i know i know you're always the dark horse and then just you already let me let me tell your spotter hey i'm gonna when you when he says going twice i want you to bid i've done you know what let me just let me

just give you a little help here adam you're setting yourself up for heartache when you do that i've never lost a tag yet so that way doing it that way seeing now that you've told me that let me just tell you if you want to you want to know how to get the tag for the best deal possible you got to get in early and the second you see the other guy's hand in the air your hands got to be second behind you chop him off yeah you come over the top of him you hammer him you make him feel like it doesn't matter what i do adam is gonna get this tag especially quit especially if he's one of those guys that jumps it like you're asking for 2500 or five grand more and a guy jumps and jumps at 20k and then you hit him boom right after that and he's like all right i can't yeah he's like there's nothing i can do i'm just jumped it to his max right then yeah that's what usually that's yeah they do

they jump into their max and then it goes quiet for a minute and then they're upped and then that's it all i'm really doing by talking about this with you john is you're in your mind thinking all right i might have to light out and cut adam off but but i'm really trying to reverse psychology this thing when i do have a tag is you're in the mood now to not linger these on because adam thinks he can jump in late and so does everybody else i'm going to sell some of these quicker well one of these times i'm going to have you sell it quicker to me and i'm going to i'm going to win because sometimes i've lost them when you you and you let you're trying to be a good-hearted guy in the back room with the phone to his ear you know give him 14 hours to decide and i've lost yeah you can only uh you know once

in a while somebody gets one yanked out from under him but uh you know at some point you gotta move on so you're you're good at what you do we like it yeah i appreciate it it's uh it's a lot of fun jason's got his jangus is bringing his brink's truck up there so he he wants to he's i'm ready he's doing that i'm ready i got the black card do you pay with can you buy tags with bitcoin these days i don't know is that you know we're probably gonna have to move that direction one of these days yeah you are but the value of bitcoin goes up and down so fast by the time you buy the tag and by the time that you know the clerk gets over there to settle up with you you may not have enough money in your account you might need to owe more i don't know my kids telling me i'm missing out so i know it's crazy but all right well we're looking forward to it february 10th to the 13th we'll be there

up there in the well yeah we got like i said we got you know 400 and jesus gonna it may well be 500 vendors they'll probably find a way to fit them in there now we got stuff for kids we got stuff for the everybody in the family the taxidermy's second to none we got great entertainment the 200 permits i mean it and we haven't done it for a couple years it's time to party boys you gotta you gotta be there you just gotta be there well i see if they can get speaking of party see if they get some really awesome you're a you're a late 80s early 90s high school dude right i'm guessing your age basically but late 80s early 90s what are you mid 80s how freaking old do you guys think i am i think you're like my age i think you're like how old are you 90 did you graduate in like 90 to 92 i graduated in 1991 yeah you're a year older than me see all right very good so why don't you you yes i'm a

proud man tied templar i went to a mormon high school with a catholic mascot yes well i'm a bonicell buckaroo so how about that that's just i tell my wife that's just a more sophisticated cowboy because she was a canap cowboy so i try to have that argument with her but anyway why don't you know like the great relief pitchers in baseball when they're getting called from the bullpen out they have their song inner sandman or whatever we need you need one of those when you take the shelf from our era pick one pick one of your favorites we'll probably know it and we'll sing along but when you walk out to the mic you need a walk-up song you need like it's time he's taking the stage let's have it let's do that one that you choose yeah yours yeah don't but don't not are we talking like guns and roses some poison some yeah like that i don't want you to pick

something like hall and oats or something like that but you know no oreo speed no no no but uh let's let's have it man it's like the relief pitchers coming out there you know on the bottom of the ninth yankee stadium i mean they it's it's time to rock it gets a crowd into it i think it would be a nice touch just think about it might bring some cash at the table yeah i don't know hey how i don't know how big a thing are you up there i mean you you run the show they make it i just said i'm just the nerd that gets beat up in the hallway by the epic no you're not you're you're underselling yourself i think it'd be a good touch and i think it'd get get things in a frenzy up there so anyway you know janna did tell me though she goes you got to be careful like what you say to those guys what she says the first thing you do like jason bumps you a little bit in the hallway and you turn around

look at him and say you're going to need more guys she goes you got to be careful

that that reminds me of a story but i don't know if we got time for it but my wife's first my wife and i's first real date when we got married it was a group date i just can't remember what we were doing it was a big group five or six couples we got were you at least 16 oh yeah i was freaking i don't know yeah i was i didn't know her until i was 21 or two whatever i was so anyway so it was your first date yeah it was my first date outside of monticello so i was scared okay okay but uh she didn't know that two of the guys in the group i already knew them she didn't know that though she thought i'm a stranger we're strange everybody's strangers to me but i i'd been on a mission with with one of them and his brother i knew him well too i don't know if you know the yardlies from beaver ron richard but i do i know who they are yeah damn it was them and

they are like they're like john bear like they you can needle them you can never needle them enough because they're always going to get you back and so we were playing flag football on a date out in the park and an art and we started kind of trash talking and pushing and shoving and my wife didn't know we knew him and it reminded me what you said about janna you got to be careful talking trash these boys out in the hall but that was my wife she was petrified she's looking at her friends like my date's getting in a fight with these two dudes on the football field that he doesn't know and i i was friends with them she didn't know that but it was it was a classic so kind of remind me you're talking you can't start talking trash to jason the shot show because somebody walks by and they think that john bear's calling some guy out over there and pretty soon it's kind of was he's got like six

guys with him you know he's got josh standing in the back there josh is big enough to have grizzly bears with a bowie knife so you gotta be careful yeah yeah yeah so well i point take she's just she's very cautious she wants you to be you're you're being seen and watching all that and if you start trash talking you got you know lady walking by there and seeing what you're talking about we got to clarify it's janna waller and i've got a janna janna carter yeah well yeah that's right my point is he's keeping you in check he's she's just making sure that john you know keep up the persona big man's the black cat and i don't want to see you on the floor don't want to see you you know rumbling in the jungle i you know i don't blame her but if you know for worrying about me but you know if there's five or six of you guys and i got you know janna with me you're in trouble i'll just say that right

now you're in trouble so oh yeah she's a sweetheart but she can deal with whatever she needs to deal with pull out that big bear hunting pistol that's right she'll pull out that desert eagle and go to work all right guy anything else we need to talk about you know i don't think so just uh it's good to talk to you boys again it's always good to see you look forward to hanging out with you the show and uh it's gonna be awesome and you know it's it's time it's time to get out and have a good show and just move on so one last thing are you still out are you still hunting coyotes much in the winter are you too busy this time here to do that much uh no i still try i don't you know once in a while this time of year i get out and do a little night hunting during the week or something but yeah i still that's still my favorite thing gotcha it just seems i maybe see a little bit less of it

but it's probably because maybe you're just tired of social how many how many dead pictures can you post i mean you know there's only you know have you ever posted two or three pictures of the same dead dog a week apart no no no that's it happens all the time no we're not doing that one of the things on coyotes is they all look the same per se you can't do that with the deer even though some people do no you can't do that with the deer without the coyote i guess if you need people to think you're that cool that bad then yeah go ahead you better do it yeah but no well we're gonna end on a positive note but anyway you're still out hunting and killing that's awesome it's good man you know and uh that's one thing that hasn't changed through the pandemic is there's lots of free clean air that doesn't require

a mask while you're out on the mountain so i think we're gonna have to wear a mask up there at the expo that's another question i mean most of these shows you wear them for five minutes and then as long as you have a drink in your hand you're good uh well in reno when you were out in the casino they'd ask you to wear a mask but once you walked into the show hall or into the banquet hall we rented that space that was our space we didn't have to i never and i think it'll probably be maybe something similar to that maybe like where you apply for the permits the city and the county might want us to depending on which direction things are headed but i think once you get in the show hall that's our space we're gonna be fine all right okay well everybody i like it february 10th to the 13th salt

palace up there in salt lake city go to hunt expo.com you can get on there register for the five dollar tickets anything else uh that you want to do you can see the list of items on there to auction and uh we'll see you up there we're gonna have a big 20 by 50 booth with some of the best critters in there and the legendary john bear will be walking around don't forget the chris peterson concert wednesday night people it's worth the trip it's worth the trip so guys you guys do a fabulous job i love getting on talking to your great friends i appreciate you always reaching out and when i have questions about stuff you guys are always there so great job keep it up and i love what you're doing thanks john we appreciate you as well okay okay buddy we'll talk to you guys later you bet we'll see you talk to you later bye