In this episode our host, Jason Carter, sits down with Remi Warren to talk about his life in hunting. Remi, originally from Nevada, grew up hunting. It wasn’t long before he realized that hunting was the path he wanted to follow as a career. Remi started guiding and hunting for himself with a video camera. Remi moved on to working heavily within the hunting industry to become one of the most notable personalities in the segment. With shows on the outdoor channel and a large following, Remi is a very entertaining and worthwhile guest. Take a minute to learn from Remi Warren.

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Pick up my stuff and go figure it out.

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It’s rugged, nasty,

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Big mountain backpacking,

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Everything. Trips your triggered. Any kind of hunting. Try

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To stock in on a trophy meal, deer,

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Hey everybody. Jason Carter here at the Epic Outdoors Podcast. Just want to, it’s powered by Under Armour. Just wanna say thanks to Under Armour and all they do for the hunting community and the awesome clothing they produce and, and their partnership with the Epic Outdoors team and all we got going as well as these podcasts. Today’s special guest with Remy Warren, the awesome and legendary Remy.

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How’s it going? Good. Yeah, thanks. How

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Are you doing?

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Thanks. Good. Really good.

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Remy’s one of those guys. He’s been in the industry, I don’t know how many years, but many, many years. Experienced a lot of things. Guide, outfit or videographer, host. I mean, there’s nothing that Remy hasn’t done that I can even think of. So hunted a lot of different states, including Alaska, all across the west. I don’t know, have you been in Mexico or

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Any of this? Yeah, I’ve done little coo deer hunting in Mexico and little buffalo hunting down there as well. I found a place. Wow. It’s got some free range buffalo, but I haven’t hunted mule deer down there yet. Yeah. And I’m kind of a mule deer freak, you know? Not maybe to your extent, but yeah. That’s one, that’s one of the things on my list is like, I want to go to Mexico and hunt mule deer. Yeah. At least wants just to give it a, a

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Try. Well, you killed some giant mule deer. I mean, I remember back in the day I was seeing pictures of you with Big O deer and, and I remember a specific Montana deer. I never forget you. And, and same thing with Nevada. I know you’ve spent a lot of time in Nevada and just done an awesome job. So anyway, give us a little bit of your background, like how you came up through the ranks, you know, as a little kid, and then what’s brought you here to today?

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Yeah. I mean, pretty much got my start like a lot of hunters, you know, my dad took me out hunting and then I just, I’ve just been one of those people that has been obsessed about it since I was born. Yeah. There was never enough hunting for me. Yeah. So, anytime that I could get to go out, I would, whether I had got to go with someone or by myself. Yeah. It didn’t matter. Yeah. I just wanted be out there as long as I could. You know, even through high school, I think I missed the maximum number of days before they’d kicked me out just to go hunting. I mean, one year I drew like a sheep tag and a deer tag, and my parents were like, Hey, as long as you pass Yeah. You can go hunting as much as you’d like. Whatever.

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Just go.

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Yeah. And I was like, perfect. It, it ended up working out because that’s what I ended up doing, living. So you did pass? Yeah, I did. I got, I did graduate,

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But yeah. And, and then during college I ended up taking the fall semester off and taking, you know, class during the spring and summer. So I had six months to, to work as a guide. And during that, you know, obviously, you know, there were seasons where it, you know, what was I gonna do? You couldn’t get a regular job when you’re guiding because, you know, it’s pretty much you gotta be there when Yeah. That season’s open. So I started guiding in Montana and New Mexico and even did some stuff in South Dakota. And then that time before the guiding in that August season when I didn’t have school, I just went out. I would just go out, get a Nevada archery tag and pretty much hunt for 30 days out there and just, you know, every day. ’cause I, I wanted to learn those areas and I ended up, that’s kind of where I started to really chase bigger bucks. ’cause I, yeah. My thing was I’ll hunt one deer for three years if I have to. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, I wasn’t, I wasn’t that successful.

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You’re talking my

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Language. Yeah. You know, I mean that’s, that was kinda my thing is I I found a big buck that, you know, at the time would’ve been giant. Yeah. Yeah. Still was, was the biggest deer I ever saw. And I never ended up getting him. Wow. But I, I mean, I think I put hundreds of days in the field on that one buck, you know, and I ended up getting, you know, along the way. I got some, got a nice, you know, some nice deer. You killed some big deer. Right. Yeah. You know, some big deer along the way. Yeah. But, yeah. You know, so that’s kind of the mule deer thing. I, I mean, growing up in Nevada especially, it’s, that’s what you can get a tag for. And it, and that’s why archery too, because in Nevada it was hard. Hard about 30 days. Yeah. And it was hard. It’s August, it’s like great time to go camping. Yeah. And it’s hard to get tags in Nevada Yeah. If it wasn’t archery. So that’s really what kind of propelled me into the archery aspect

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Of things. Yeah. When that opens August 10th, that, you know, a lot of times there’s nothing else going on. Oh yeah. I mean, it’s just like you’re gonna hunt deer in Nevada. That’s what you start off with.

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Exactly. And it was perfect timing too. ’cause you could go, you know, then the season was August 1st to whenever, but as soon as September started through the end of November, I was guiding full on. So I’d spend that, my, I knew my time to hunt was August. Yeah. In Nevada archery. Absolutely. And then anything else along the way, you know, it was just weekend hunting in between guiding, but,

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And so after high school, what did you do right after? Just went right into guiding.

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Yep. I, I went right into guiding and then, you know, I, I started, I mean, I, I ran into a lot of, like, a lot of the things I did was just kind of pick up my stuff and go figure it out kind of stuff. Yeah. I’m the type of person that’s like, if you want to do something, my my idea was I can’t give myself any other options. Yeah. I just have to commit to it. So I loaded up my truck and went to Monta. I didn’t even have a guide job. I told my parents, I was like, I’m gonna start guiding. They’re like, okay, who are you gonna guide for? I’ll figure it out.

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I don’t, who are your clients? I don’t

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Know. Didn’t, I didn’t have a job. And I just started going up there and I was bow hunting. Yeah. And I was just like, I was, I figured the elk out and I was just hunting every day. And while I was out there, I kept cutting these guys off, or like beating these guys to the elk and Yeah. Ended up being an outfitter or a guide. He goes, Hey, I want you to meet someone. Okay. So I go and he brings you back to the outfitter. Alfred’s like, Hey, instead of working against us, you wanna work for us. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, sure. Cool. Whatever. What do I do? He is like, here, take these guys out. Perfect. And yeah. So, you know, it was just, I just figured, well, if I’m out there and I’m doing it, I’ll figure it

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Out. So did you work for this guy full-time right then? Or?

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Yep. I started working for that guy full-time and, you know, for, for quite a few years. And he, he ended up having a place in New Mexico as well that he operated. So I’d kind of chase the season around a little bit with them. Right. And then, and then I, I ran into some guys kind of the same deal out hunting. Ran into some guys that ran a magazine that’s no longer around, it’s called Real Hunting Magazine. Yeah. And then started doing stuff for them and doing a lot of writing and got a lot of experience. And I, my thought was, you know, here I’m, you know, 19, 20 year old guy Yeah. With, I thought, I gotta build a resume. Yeah. So I would do any, I mean, I would work for those guys 40 hours a week just to build a resume. Wow. You know what I mean? For nothing. You, for nothing. ’cause it’s like, that’s, that’s the way Yeah. That’s what

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You gotta do. You gotta break in

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Somehow. Yeah. So I figured by the time I was 23, I had a pretty good resume going of things that I’d done because I was willing to just get there and work hard and, and do what it took to, you know, like even when I was guiding, I wanted to be the best at that in that area. And I think my first year guide or my first couple years guiding in that area, I mean, I was just dead set. I mean, I went, it was your

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Hardcore. Oh, yeah. And I, I think when I looked, when we looked at the stats, my client, the people I guided, we shot more elk and deer than all the other guides in the area combined. Yeah.

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So they, they, the other guys didn’t really

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Like you. Really? Yeah. No. There was one other guy that like kept up and we worked together. Still

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This day. Yeah. Yeah. To this day. Oh, he’s the guy. He’s the guy that I ran into that we kept cutting off. Wow. And we still guide together, you know, it’s been going

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On. That’s great. So you still got 12 years or so, so you guided it in Montana, New Mexico, and, and then that’s continued to today or

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Now I just pretty much focus on Montana. Okay. ’cause I’ve got my own outfitting business there, but, okay. Yeah. It’s one of those deals we’re, we’re pretty much indefinitely hooked up. I

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Heard you have lots of openings. No, no,

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No. I, there’s no, you can’t. It’s,

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So do you guide in Nevada or anything like that back in your home state? No. Do you still live in Nevada?

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Yeah, I still live in Nevada, but my, my whole thing was, I, I kind of, I looked into it at first do Nevada, but I thought if I start guiding in Nevada, when am I gonna hunt for myself? Yeah. Because it was that August season. I would, you know, then I would have to, then I would be full-time guiding full-time, no hunting. And that just,

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So you, you wear a lot of different hats. I know you’ve done TV shows, multiple TV shows. You’re guiding, you’re hunting for yourself. You’re, I mean, you’re, you’re just all over the map. Like, tell me about a few of these different, you know, fun ventures you’ve been doing.

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Yeah. You know, like one of my favorite things to do is the solo hunter show. Yeah. Because that’s just, that’s the way I’ve always on it. That’s you. It’s me. It’s go out by myself and that camera just adds an element that makes it so freaking hard. Yeah. That I’ve become kind of addicted to it. Yeah. It’s like that

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Next. So you don’t have a videographer with you? No. It’s like you’re truly solo. Yeah.

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Truly solo. But I, you know, I’ve always been into filming, so I always thought, you know, it’d be cool to be a video guy and film people’s hunts. And I thought, well, I like that aspect, but I also like to hunt. Yeah. So, hey, why don’t I just do it all? Yeah. And that I think has been like one of the coolest challenges. But when I come back and look at the stuff that I’ve got, you know. Yeah. It’s, it’s not just about the hunting, it’s about cool video that I’ve got as well that I’ll have forever. Forever. Yeah. And that’s what I like. It’s like, and then the challenge of, you know, it’s really taught me a lot about the animals, because you have to be super patient. You can’t, I mean Yeah. Try to stock in on a trophy mul deer. Yeah. With a metal tripod. You have to set like you’re arm tree

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Hunting with a metal tripod dealing with

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GoPros Yeah. And all kinds of stuff. And it’s like the littlest things that I wouldn’t even think about before. It’s like I go to grab the camera tripod, my wrist release taps the tripod, tripod leg, and that deer’s gone. And like, I mean, there’s been times where I’ve had, there was one time where I had a 200 inch buck within range, but it just walked outta the camera and I let my bow down. Geez. Geez.

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That’s not me, buddy. Yeah. I was like, I’m putting the camera down. I don’t know.

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I shouldn’t have,

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Still dreading that moment. But, you know, it was a decision that I made because I was focused. If I, if I went out there with the idea that I’m just gonna shoot something, even if it wasn’t on the, then I wouldn’t have put the dedication into doing it. Right. Yeah. In the way that I saw. Wow. You know, and that’s just that extra element challenge. And

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That’s awesome, man. Yeah. Well, tell me about your own personal show. Like how, what, where, where the idea came up for all that. What it’s about? Yeah.

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The apex predator thing. I just thought I wanted to do something that, you know, my whole thought is as hunters, there’s a large group in the middle that might, that doesn’t hunt, but is they understand where hunting came from and kind of accept it. Yeah. And hunting’s gonna be, then they’re gonna be in our corner. They’re gonna be in our favor. ’cause they’re the decision makers, the people in the middle. I thought what would be a cool show, an idea of that I’ve had to kind of attract those people, but still showcase hunting and where hunting came from. Yep. And that apex predator idea kind of came up from that. It was like, let’s, you know, one, one day I was actually out hunting and I’m follow this area, this ridge where I, you know, go, it’s like, I’ve got my route and I know that I’m gonna run into the elk on this route.

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And there was fresh snow on the ground and there was wolf tracks. Every way that I do my route. I mean, I even like the same place that I cut across the hill, there’s no trail. And it’s like, they go, went the exact, and I was like, okay. They know what I know. We’re like doing something sim it’s a really weird, it’s like they know hunters are hunters, hunter, how to hunt. Hunters are hunters. It doesn’t matter if you are, you know, a mountain lion or a human. Like Yeah. There’s a lot of things that transpire in that primal Yes. Hunt. Absolutely. You know, to survive. And there’s, and there’s certain things that work and it’s like, okay, that works for them. They, they do it day in, day out, 365 days a year. And somehow I’ve figured out that same exact route. You know what I mean? Wow. And we both know that that’s a successful way to hunt that canyon. Right. So it’s like, okay, I wonder what other things do that. And in along doing that whole show, I was like, I learned a lot of stuff that I probably would’ve never even thought of. Yeah. You know, it was like the, the breath hold thing was one of the things that we did.

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And it was like, I watched that one

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That was, it was like, wow, that was a aha moment where you’re like, Hey, that’s pretty crazy that we can, everyone could do that.

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So dive into that a little bit.

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Yeah. So we just, essentially it was, you know, looking at the mammalian dive reflux, we’re mammals. So essentially we’re underwater animals just like dolphins and whales. And they have a reflex that allows them to hold their breath for long periods of time, but they have to go back up. It’s like pretty much every human can hold their breath for four to five minutes. Yeah. Without any effect. Yeah. But it’s just, we have our brain. I don’t brain think I can, our brain don you can, but your brain tells you you’re dying. You can’t Oh yeah. It’s, it’s like, it feels like

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You’re dying.

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Physically can, but physically, once you get over that mental aspect, you Yeah. You physically can. And

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So you’ve, you were able to get over that. Yeah.

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It was, and once you do, you’re like, whoa, this is really cool. You know? But Yeah. And, and I’ve always, I’ve always done like, liked spearfishing.

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Yeah. I watched the, and I watched the spearfishing episode. Like, was that just awesome?

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Yeah. That was awesome. And I, and you know, I’ve realized before I did that, that I was spearfishing wrong the whole time. Like, I was doing things that were super dangerous and probably would’ve gotten killed. Like killed. Like what? Well, just like letting my air out as I’m swimming to the top. Things like that. You know, it is like, never let your air out. But, you know, I could always dive pretty deep, but I didn’t know what I was doing. Yeah. I just, you know, just did it. Yeah. But now it’s like, you know, I try to go spearfishing, you know, at least once a year, if not more. Yeah. ’cause it’s just underwater bow hunting, you know? It’s cool. It’s

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Awesome. So, yeah, you get, I mean, like, like everything trips your trigger. It doesn’t matter if it’s any kind of hunting, all kind

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Of hunting. Oh yeah. Like, people are like, oh, you, you’re a bow hunter, you’re Muslim. I’m just a hunter. Yeah. Like, it doesn’t, like I will, if I’m in some place where it’s legal and there’s no weapons allowed, I, and I can go snare a rat, I’ll probably try to do it. You know, like I am just at my deepest core, a hunter. It doesn’t really matter Yeah. What

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It is.

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Wow. Whether it’s underwater or like, but I mean, yeah. Obviously there’s certain types of hunts that I enjoy more than others. Yeah. But yeah, it’s, you’re

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Like, my kids, they would kill and do anything. Yeah. It’s like snaring around. That’s hilarious. It’s

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Like rabbits. It’s like, if it’s out there and I can do it squirrels, I’m gonna try it.

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I remember one episode you were on stilts. Yeah. Walk. How, I mean, tell me about that one. I,

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That was, I just thought this would be funny and kind of ridiculous, but I kind of thought about it. I was like, one day I was just like, thinking about bow fishing. I was like, man, I wonder if I could walk out there on stilts and go bow fishing.

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So it was like a stork or whatever. Yeah, exactly. You were just out there.

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Yeah. And that was the dumbest, I was like, oh yeah, I’m gonna strap these stilts to my legs and go walk. It

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Didn’t look like it worked very good.

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No, it didn’t work at all. But I think that there wasn’t very much fish that that year. So I think I would try it again if there was, you know, a place where there’s more fish and Yeah. Different type of bottom. Yeah. But that was, that was kind of a pain.

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So you told me yesterday you were lucky in the Alaska draw. Yep.

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Yeah. I mean, most of my hunting comes off like, well, you know, I mean, the draws are a huge thing for me. Absolutely. I, I’ve been applying since, like, when I was 16 years old, I saw, like, I was into hunting. Yeah. So I thought I can either apply in all these states or get a truck. And I was like, I think I’ll just keep borrowing a vehicle and apply for Utah. You know what I mean? And now I’ve got, I don’t even know how many, I think 17 points in Utah built up. But it’s because I as a, you know, when I was younger, I saw that, okay, in the future I’m definitely gonna want to go hunt these places. Yeah. So the draw stuff, I mean, that’s obviously what you guys do. It’s, it’s like, like it’s, I’ve done it for a long time and it’s really important to me. Yeah. So, yeah, I apply in every state. Yeah. You know, a lot of times I’m not too, like, people are like, oh, you’re, you seem really lucky. It’s like, no, no, I’m not actually

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Got, that’s pretty

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Unlucky. I’ve got unlucky. Yeah. I’ve got like lots of points. A lot of places. Yeah. And it’s just, you know, over the years, it looks like they’ve drawn a lot of tags because Yeah. I put in everywhere consistently, you know? Yeah. It’s like, I, I actually am pretty lucky in Alaska, but I’ve been putting in for a lot. I, there’s a lot of years. I never drew anything in Alaska, like a span of 10 years. I didn’t draw anything. And then all of a sudden I started drawing tags. Yep. You know, so, and, and putting in for tags that weren’t as hard to draw too. Yeah. Which makes, makes it easier. But yeah, I drew a, a elk tag this year that I’ve hunted before, which was really lucky. And

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You were somewhat apprehensive? Yeah. Not the easiest hunt in the world.

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It was the, like, it’s honestly one of the, the packouts, the hard part. Such elk, big out elk. Yeah. Yeah. Elk

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In Alaska. Yep.

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Elk and Alaska and the Roosevelt elk. But they’re like 1400 pound elk giants and they’re the size of moose and you know, it’s like

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Six mile packout

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And I’m type. Right. Yeah. And I’m the type person that’s like, if I see ’em, I’m gonna go after ’em. I’m gonna shoot one. Yeah. And then I’m gonna figure it out. And figuring it out meant just carrying for I think it was like 60 hours of walking

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Time. Wow. Solid. Like a hundred pound plus packs. Yeah,

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Just packing out meat. Yep.

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Through the stuff that’s hard to like, you know, that Alaska stuff you could go, it’s brutal. You can look at something, there’s stuff that you go and you can go three miles in an hour. Yeah. And then you could go 400 yards in two hours. It’s just, that’s, you know, it’s like, and you, and it all kind of looks the same, but it’s just however the ground is. And walking through some of that like thick alder and devil’s club and all that, you know,

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Nasty country, nasty stuff. It’s nasty.

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Yeah. So it’s like, you get, and

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You’re wet and your boots are always

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Walls. Exactly. I mean, but yeah, it’s just one of those hunts where it was just, it was like the most brutal packout I’ve ever had.

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Wow. And and you signed up for it again?

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Reluctantly. Yeah. A friend of mine we put in together and I told him, I was like, all right, if, if we draw this tag this time, we’re gonna like, bring someone that doesn’t have a tag to help us pack out.

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Like a packer.

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Yeah. Like a packer. But they can, he can a deer. So it’ll be like,

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My boys might be a deer hunter, my boy boys might come up. Be your packer. Exactly. Well, cool. Well, what’s your favorite hunt? Like, what was the favorite thing? I know you’ve hunted like buffalo and in Mexico and all kinds of different things. Like, like what’s your favorite hunt?

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You know, I, I, I can’t just pick one favorite, but there is certain things that I know I like. I mean, I like, I love calling elk. Yeah. I’d rather call elk for someone than actually shoot one myself. Yeah. So like, I always would the prime weeks, you know, guiding, I think I just like, I like tricking elk and I like the be the one that calls ’em in. Yeah. You know? But I love elk hunting, but I think I like the calling aspect more than the actual shooting of the elk for myself now. If it’s like, I love bow hunting, big meal deer. Yeah. Love. That’s, I mean, love it. Yeah. It doesn’t get any better than that. And then like mount mountain hunting has to be the tops for me. So whether it’s doll sheep tar in New Zealand. Wow. Anything, it’s like big mountain backpacking. I’m more about the place than the thing. So if like, I would go hunt, you know, like Himalayan snow cocks in the rubies or something, probably before I went

00:18:08:05 –> 00:18:08:25
Hunting. Haven’t done that.

00:18:09:00 –> 00:18:18:22
I haven’t done it yet. Okay. Because it’s always the wrong time of year. But it’s like, if I had to choose between that or shooting like a 170 each white tail in Kansas, I’d probably choose. Yeah. You know? ’cause it’s the place that means a lot.

00:18:18:22 –> 00:18:21:29
So tell me about New Zealand. It’s rugged, nasty. Yeah. Brutal country.

00:18:22:02 –> 00:18:27:18
Oh yeah. It’s, it’s essentially, it’s just like Alaska. A lot of it. Yeah. You know, it’s like big steep mountains.

00:18:27:25 –> 00:18:29:04
The fair chase part of it for

00:18:29:04 –> 00:18:40:18
Sure. Yeah, exactly. Like the public land type stuff. Or even some of the, like there’s ranches there that are Yeah. It’s a giant mountain that the guy owns. Yeah. So any of that kind of stuff, those big mountains, there’s

00:18:40:18 –> 00:18:42:02
Just always totally do that. Self-guided. Yep.

00:18:42:08 –> 00:18:49:00
Solo. I mean, I’ve gone in there and got multiple times hunted tar, you know, in the cliffs and mountains, just

00:18:49:17 –> 00:18:51:18
Alone. How do you, it just fly in and then start hiking? No,

00:18:51:18 –> 00:18:53:10
I, I hike from the bottom. I

00:18:53:10 –> 00:18:54:11
Always, no, I mean, fly in.

00:18:54:11 –> 00:18:55:19
Oh yeah. Just fly the country. Fly,

00:18:55:19 –> 00:18:56:06
Fly to the country,

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Jump in my vehicle, drive to the trail head and start hiking in, just start hiking.

00:19:01:02 –> 00:19:01:11

00:19:01:12 –> 00:19:26:06
I mean, sometimes you can drive up the canyons a little ways, but Yeah. You know, you make a, it’s a, it’s a backpacking trip and it’s always an adventure. ’cause you’re crossing rivers, you’re going over cliffs, you’re up in the mountains. Yeah. And you’re hunting an animal that is from the Himalayas. And Yeah. You know, it’s like, who knows if I’ll ever be able to hunt in the Himalayas. I would love to one day. Like that’s, that’s my dream is to go right. You know, some of that stuff in Asia and those sheep and goats. But until then, I’ll just keep going back to it right now.

00:19:26:06 –> 00:19:32:13
Oh, you’re gonna make, you’re gonna make it there. I know you do. You even call, does anywhere? Do you call anything home? You’re just not like nomadic?

00:19:32:14 –> 00:19:50:11
Yeah. I mean, I’ve always kind of, I’ve done a lot of traveling. I’m always here, there, you know, but I mean, Nevada is my home. Yeah. I mean that’s, I probably won’t ever, you know, I would, maybe the only place I’d move to outside of Nevada would be Alaska. Yeah. ’cause like, I, I spent a lot of time there and I love Alaska. Do you? Oh yeah. I

00:19:50:17 –> 00:19:51:20
You love the rain. Yep.

00:19:51:24 –> 00:19:53:14
The clouds. No, I just love the hunting.

00:19:54:14 –> 00:19:55:03
Just the game.

00:19:55:03 –> 00:19:56:03
Yeah. The game. Yeah.

00:19:56:03 –> 00:19:58:09
Yeah. So you killed doll sheep. Yep.

00:19:59:04 –> 00:20:13:03
Doll sheep up there. And I’ve never shot a caribou, but I drew a, a good caribou tag this year, so. Oh, great. I’m looking forward to that. I’ve been on plenty of hunts where yeah, I’ve taken my dad and he shot caribou and yeah, this, that, and the other thing. But I just never shot one myself.

00:20:13:03 –> 00:20:15:02
Where’d you, where’d you hunt? Doll sheep. Tell me about that one.

00:20:16:03 –> 00:20:46:16
I, I’ve hunted in the Alaska range. Yeah. Actually the, both the doll sheep that I hunted in the Alaska, I’ve shot two in the Alaska range. I won both those trips from the Wild Sheep Foundation. No way. Well actually one of ’em, my dad won and the guide like, let me go for pretty much nothing. Come on. And he’s like, as long as there’s two rams together, you can shoot one. Yeah. Because I was, I was, I think I was 22 at the time, whatever, so lucky, guiding lucky. And I was like, okay. You know, and then sure enough, we get into the first group there.

00:20:46:23 –> 00:20:47:16
I’m twos long

00:20:47:16 –> 00:21:17:23
ASM the packer. Yeah. You get two rams. And I was like, my dad shoots his, actually my dad was lined up on one and this other one came out. Yeah. And you know, I was just gonna shoot, well I don’t care, you know, just doey. And, and I ended up, his didn’t give him a shot, so he is like, shoot ears first. I was like, that’s not the deal. You know, it’s his hunt because Right. You know, if I shot that one, then the hunt over. Yeah, exactly. It was like, it was only if there was two together. Yeah. Was the deal. And so I shot mine and his stopped and turned and he shot his, and we both got our rams right there. It’s

00:21:17:23 –> 00:21:18:16
Pretty cool. Wow. How awesome

00:21:18:16 –> 00:21:29:13
Is that? Yeah. And then, and then I did a, there was a, you know, they’ve got that raffle there. Yeah. That’s why I was like, the raffle, these raffles you played it, it’s, it’s just like the draw. Sometimes it’s cheaper and easier to win, you know? So you play

00:21:29:13 –> 00:21:29:25
The raffles?

00:21:29:25 –> 00:21:34:26
Yeah, I’ve, I’ve, oh yeah. I mean, not, not a lot. Like, I think my thing is like, you just need one ticket.

00:21:35:01 –> 00:21:37:11
Do you still borrow trucks to play the raffles or,

00:21:37:11 –> 00:21:43:18
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But yeah, it’s, so, yeah, it was cool. I’ve, I’ve been fortunate enough to do that. Oh,

00:21:43:19 –> 00:21:54:07
That’s great, man. Yeah. Awesome. And so, you know, what are some of your tactics? Like what are some of your favorite things to do? Glass. I mean, what do, what does Remy do when he goes out on a hunt?

00:21:54:08 –> 00:22:33:20
Yeah, I mean, glassing, I mean, is huge. You know, you can cover a lot of country Yeah. That way. I think a lot of it too is, you know, just kind of knowing the type of topography. One, my big thing is, you know, if I, there’s a lot of good looking country, whatever you’re hunting doesn’t matter. Yeah. Elk, deer, whatever. There’s, there’s a lot of country out there that just doesn’t hold anything. Yeah. And it doesn’t look much different than this or that other area, but there is something different about it. Yeah. You know, it’s like, why is, you know, there’s a place where I mul there hunting this one bend. You will see big bucks every time, every time they’re there, but they aren’t over here or there. Yeah. You know, but it’s like, what’s special about, so what I like to do is I really pay attention to the, the way the animals move in areas.

00:22:33:21 –> 00:23:10:16
Like, I mean, when I would, when I would have all that time in hunt Nevada Yeah. I literally would not even stalk for the first two weeks. Wow. I would just watch ’em know what they do. And it’s like, they aren’t on patterns, but they’re doing something for a reason. Yeah. You know, and try to, I like that. It’s like a, I like to see it as like a big game where you kind of, yeah. You map it out and look at the big picture. What’s going on? What are these animals doing? What’s the behavior of these animals? I like to just watch animals. Like Yeah. It’s the naturalist in me of just observing these animals. Yeah. And, and even like, that’s the cool thing about videoing is I’ll sneak in and essentially do stalks and other things where I’m videoing these animals, watching ’em.

00:23:10:16 –> 00:23:40:20
And you learn so much like body language movement. Like you can predict what they’re gonna do. Yeah. Based on watching ’em. So even when I’m hunting, I, I’m focused in on areas, like why are the deer right there? Yeah. And then I go and look for other areas that are like that and see if, okay. So I look for similar areas a lot of times to find big deer. Yeah. And people go, like, I, I went into a new area this year and within two days I found two giant bucks that other guys in that area had Seattle. It’s like, how do you find that?

00:23:40:24 –> 00:23:41:25
Where, where was this room?

00:23:42:03 –> 00:24:24:06
I’m not saying, but how big were they? Yeah. They weren’t, they’re not your status big, you know, they were big for me. Like good big one fifteens, you know? No, no. But yeah, so, you know, but I, you know, looking at a map, knowing areas in other places. Yeah. And then just look for that exact same thing on the map there. And then going look at it, and in a short amount of time I can really narrow down where, yeah. These animals will be like a higher likelihood. I mean, they could be anywhere, but there’s a higher likelihood. So you kind of observe the pattern. Yeah. And I don’t know, there’s a lot into it and it’s, it’s a lot, you know, you spend a lot of time in the field and you can start picking out those things. Yeah. But that’s one thing that’s big for me is like figuring out why those animals are in that one spot.

00:24:24:11 –> 00:24:53:13
I mean, I just, in Montana for example, there’s one area where I thought I kept finding these bachelor groups of bucks in September. Yeah. Why are they right there? And it’s like, it doesn’t look any different. But I’ve noticed after watching ’em for a couple days, they would always go to this one bush. I was like, okay, well they’re eating elderberries. Yeah. And it’s like that time of year, the bucks, like the, and there weren’t very many places in that unit that had elderberries elderberries. And so I started looking for elderberries and then I started finding more big bucks. Wow. In September. Like all the bachelor. And it was like, who would think that? You know?

00:24:53:15 –> 00:25:11:06
And so are you doing like a lot of back country, like that’s your gig? Like you like to backpack or like, or truck hunts? Like I know you hunted a little easier country in some of that this year in Nevada. You drew a tag and, and you know, like, or, and you’re okay to do that? Or do you go into that unit and look for the roadless country in there and that’s kind of what you, you

00:25:11:06 –> 00:26:07:01
Know, like to do? Yeah, it just, it just depends. Like, I’m not, I call it like there’s front country hunting and there’s back country hunting. And sometimes what I call the front country is just as hard to hunt. Like I always, I generally park the truck and you know, you’ll be on foot all day and you’ll probably walk more than you do on a back country hunt. Yeah. You know, a lot of times Yeah. Because you can just cover more ground. So it depends on the unit, I mean, but I just like to get away. Yeah. A lot of the stuff I do if, if I park the truck I’m going in where there’s no roads. Yeah. But not always. I mean you, it just depends on the area and where the good country is too. I mean, there’s plenty of places that I’ve hunted and hiked in miles and miles and miles and there’s nothing back there. Then you get back to no people, no deer. Yeah. And you get back to the truck and you’re like, oh, that’s what looks good. And it’s like a half a mile from the road and you pop up there and it’s a hard hike in. Yeah. And you gotta drop and every, all the animals are down low, so you gotta hike back out. Yeah. That’s what, when you, when you have to carry something back out, that’s generally a good area. You know, it’s easier to find animals there. ’cause nobody wants to do it. So

00:26:07:01 –> 00:26:08:08
Your favorite species meal there.

00:26:08:18 –> 00:26:09:23
Yeah. I think in North America,

00:26:09:26 –> 00:26:10:11
But you call elk

00:26:10:11 –> 00:26:13:13
A lot. Sheep, you know, I love sheep and calling elk, I mean, can’t

00:26:13:16 –> 00:26:14:08
Get enough sheep. That’s,

00:26:14:08 –> 00:26:24:10
Yeah. That’s, it’s hard if you could get a sheep tag every year. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I’ll go on if, if friends or whatever. I mean, I try to find people that have sheep tags and just help ’em out or go, I mean, I just love to go on sheep hunts.

00:26:24:10 –> 00:26:26:13
So Are you a trophy hunter or just just a hunter?

00:26:26:29 –> 00:26:57:24
Oh, just a hunter. But I mean, yeah, I, the reason I, I wouldn’t call myself a trophy hunter is like, I look for big mature animals because it’s more challenging. I just want to spend more time out there. Yep. You know, if it’s some, I just don’t, if something seems easy then I’m just gonna try to make it harder for myself. I don’t know why. It’s just, yeah. I just like to be out there so much that if I know, if I go into an area and shoot the first deer that walks out, then I’m done hunting. So I’d rather just be like, okay, I’ll look at that deer and go try to find a big one. Yeah. Even if there’s no big ones there, it’s like, and then maybe toward the end I’ll shoot something for meat, you know, whatever.

00:26:58:27 –> 00:27:02:13
And so, have you ever killed a white tail? Do you ever hunt back east at all or

00:27:02:15 –> 00:27:12:00
Never hunted back east? I have shot white tails in Montana. Montana? Yeah. But I mean, they’re like small. Yeah. Small and Wyoming. I’ve shot some Okay. Whitetails there with my recurve. But yeah,

00:27:12:00 –> 00:27:13:02
There’s a few good ones here and there

00:27:13:10 –> 00:27:24:02
Probably. Yeah. I mean that’s what I, I was actually down in Texas this week and I was seeing some big white, I was like, I should do this one time just so I can say like, I’ve done it, you know, like just to, because I can’t knock it until I tried

00:27:24:02 –> 00:27:25:27
It. It’s just hit the stand or a big old tripod

00:27:25:27 –> 00:27:34:10
Or I didn’t, I mean, maybe I’ll go back next year and try it. Yeah. But I mean, it’s just, I mean, I like the big mountains and yeah. It doesn’t really appeal to me as much as some of the other stuff. But

00:27:34:11 –> 00:27:37:16
I’ve never hunted Texas. I don’t know. Yeah. I’ve never there just never have. It

00:27:37:16 –> 00:27:45:10
Just doesn’t. But I mean, that’s how a lot of people hunt, so it’s not Yeah. You know? Yeah. I just, I’m sure if that’s all I had to hunt, I I would do it. It

00:27:45:10 –> 00:27:48:20
Wouldn’t matter. So. So your family, your family hunts, like you guys all hunt?

00:27:49:04 –> 00:28:04:10
Yeah. My, my dad hunts, my other brother Jason guides with me and we go on a lot of hunts together. My brother Ryan, he hunts here and there. He’s more into like, his, his favorite hunt would be like a dough antelope hunt, you know what I mean? Because like all he cares about is food, you know?

00:28:04:22 –> 00:28:05:14
He’s like, that’s

00:28:05:14 –> 00:28:20:21
Awesome. Yeah. It’s funny because like, and he draws the best tags too. Like, he drew a P I w Nevada come on. Desert Sheep tag. Come on. And he is like, yeah, I would, he’s like, he, he would, he just wants like, are you legal? He wants like desert ram short ribs. He like, I’ll be good short ribs.

00:28:21:08 –> 00:28:21:18
No way.

00:28:21:23 –> 00:28:22:05
But he’s

00:28:22:05 –> 00:28:23:16
A great coach too. So how how’d that

00:28:23:16 –> 00:28:36:02
Hunt go? It went good. That was a while ago. That was actually one of his, that was one of his first Nevada tags, I think that was his first big game animal. Yeah. And yeah, we ended up getting a good ram, like a book ram. Yeah. That’s awesome. Yeah. It’s cool.

00:28:36:07 –> 00:28:40:28
Well, that’s great man. Yeah. Well cool. Back in the early days, was there anybody you looked up to or?

00:28:41:19 –> 00:29:14:29
Oh yeah. I mean there’s, you know, I think it was like, my thing was Saturday mornings watching t n n outdoors and thing that always pissed me off. It was just white tail. And I was like, what are, you know, whitetail hunting and bass fishing? I was like, I’ve never caught a bass or seen a whitetail. You know? Yeah. But yeah. You know, I mean like guys like Jim Shockey, even Cam Haynes. Yeah. You know, I’d read that backcountry bow hunting. Yeah. I was, I was big into magazines, so like, you know, outdoor life, you know, field stream, Eastman’s. Yeah. You know, and I was like, I, I just couldn’t get enough. Couldn’t

00:29:14:29 –> 00:29:22:00
Get enough. Couldn’t get enough. Yeah. I did, I did listen to a podcast you did with Cam. And of course you guys talked about a Nevada hunt that you guys, you you,

00:29:22:01 –> 00:29:22:12
Oh yeah.

00:29:22:24 –> 00:29:23:23
Tell me about that a little bit.

00:29:23:23 –> 00:29:33:26
Yeah. Well that was, that was in like my, the place that I hunted a lot. Yeah. And, and me and my brother ended up going in there and shooting two really good bucks. And I think he went outta there with no bucks,

00:29:35:08 –> 00:30:17:09
But we didn’t know he was there, you know? Yeah. It was just like, that’s where we always hunted and Yeah, I’d been in there for It was your backyard. Yeah. And I’d been in there for two weeks just watching deer and Yeah. And so, and then I, but my brother, it was my brother’s first archery hunt. Yeah. And so he couldn’t come till later in the season ’cause of work. So Yeah. And we get in there and we start hiking up the trail head. And one of the deer that I liked was up there and I was like, all right, I’m gonna stock it right now. So I stock in there, shoot it, and it runs off and gets dark. So we’re gonna wait until the morning to find it. Yeah. Yeah. So we’re, we’re, I go to where we shot and blood trailing it and he’s with me and I, I look over and, or he looks over and he’s looking, he goes, I think I see your buck.

00:30:18:04 –> 00:31:03:09
’cause he didn’t really see the buck. He goes and it had, you know, the buck that I shot had an extra kicker and stuff. He goes, did you deer have a, a drop time? And I was like, well, on the right side. And I go, well it had a, I mean I had a, an extra point, you know, like, what do you mean drop time? He’s like, no, a a five inch drop time hanging down. I was like, no. So he is like sweet. So while I’m blood trailing my deer, he sneaks around, gets around the basin, gets over the cliff, shoots the bucket 30 on, it’s the 31 inch buck with a dropper. Come on. Yeah. And it was like 190 inch buck. And then, and then, you know, and then we ended up, so I was watching from that side, watch him shoot his deer. It runs down there. I keep following the blood trail. There’s my buck, you know. That’s awesome. We both shot like two of the best bucks I’d seen

00:31:03:09 –> 00:31:06:15
In Austin. Clear back in the middle of nowhere. Cam’s in there with you somewhere. Yeah.

00:31:06:15 –> 00:31:07:22
Somewhere back there. Sneaking

00:31:07:22 –> 00:31:14:28
Around. Geez. Crazy. Yeah, it was awesome. Well, what, what are your plans for, for this year? 2017? Of course you got the Alaska draws.

00:31:14:28 –> 00:31:43:04
Yep. The Alaska and then, you know, I mean hopefully get lucky and draw probably an archery tag in Nevada somewhere. Yeah. And then just kind of figure out where there’s gaps in the schedule and just start applying. Yeah. You know, I always wait to see what happens in Alaska and then kind of yeah. Pick units and stuff that I can do. You bet. For the draws that work with those season dates and my guide schedule and everything like that. So I think it’ll probably be, again, it’s like I’ll probably roll my Utah points over again. Yeah. And just wait,

00:31:43:23 –> 00:31:44:09
Just keep on

00:31:44:09 –> 00:31:47:29
Waiting. I’m gonna be like, yeah, I’m gonna draw an archery tag with twice as many points as it needs.

00:31:48:00 –> 00:31:48:09

00:31:48:25 –> 00:32:02:07
That’s all right. One day. And then, yeah. So I don’t really know, I mean I’ll be hunting in Montana, you know, just general area stuff. Yeah. And probably Idaho, some general tags. I, I, I like, I like the challenge of hunting those over the counter

00:32:02:17 –> 00:32:05:07
General stuff. General, there’s a lot of opportunities Idaho, there’s

00:32:05:07 –> 00:32:24:26
A lot of opportunities where Exactly. And it’s like you don’t have to worry about a draw you can go when that season is. Yeah. And, and yep. I’ve been fortunate to, I just go find places that no one else is at and maybe it’s ’cause there’s not very many deer there, but I’d rather hunt. Yeah. You know, five days and see two deer and zero people than hunt five days and see 400 people in deer. Yeah.

00:32:24:28 –> 00:32:28:08
Sometimes. Totally makes sense. Yeah. And so you’ll be filming all that.

00:32:28:22 –> 00:32:29:26
Yep. Probably for

00:32:29:26 –> 00:32:31:11
Solo as well as Apex.

00:32:31:14 –> 00:32:48:06
Yeah, no, I’m just, just really focusing on the solo stuff. Are you? Okay. Yeah. And then for that and then some of the Ridge Reaper Yeah. Series things. Yeah. With Under Armour. Yeah. So yeah, I think, we’ll I don’t know what hunt we’re gonna do. Maybe one of these Alaska hunts, probably that caribou hunt. Maybe do that for that

00:32:48:10 –> 00:32:49:11
For the Under Armour Ridge Reaper

00:32:49:11 –> 00:33:17:01
Series. I think that’d be cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take my dad out again like he gets, ’cause the first hunt he had there, he’s, he’s thinking, he’s like, I don’t even know if I want to go, because the first hunt was so he shot a giant buck or a giant bowl. It was beautiful weather. It was like the fir you know, it’s just, yeah. Perfect. And it’s like you can never recreate that. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, I’ll take my bow and and try to get a caribou and maybe have him tag along with the rifle, maybe get my brother to go to and get a moose tag or something. So Yeah,

00:33:17:14 –> 00:33:28:28
Absolutely. Something like that. I dunno. What would you say to the young kids that are coming up through the rinks that wanna hunt, do what you do? You obviously make a living hunting, it’s not easy. And just what would you, what advice would you give ’em?

00:33:28:28 –> 00:34:20:12
Yeah, I mean my thing is, you know, I grew up in a household that’s like, you gotta work hard if you want something. Yeah. You know, so there’s no easy way to do it, but if you, if you dedicate to something, you’re gonna do it. Yeah. You know, you just gotta give yourself no other options and, and really believe that you can do it and then get out there and don’t be like, you know, I mean I like, I always tell people when I started guiding, you know, I would go out, get up early scout on my days off, whatever. Yeah. And then as soon as the hunters came in, I would take ’em out. They would shoot something in the evening, I would drop them back off at camp. I would go back out, pack that animal till 5:00 AM in the morning. Yeah. And pick them up and be ready to go the next day. Wow. You know what I mean? Just, and it’s like, because I knew that they had five days and I wanted to make it happen, you know, I worked as hard and I still do. I work as hard as I can. Yeah. Because, you know, it’s like there’s, there’s people that do it and don’t, you just gotta outwork everyone else. Yeah. You know,

00:34:20:25 –> 00:34:23:01
Work, work ethic. Yeah, exactly. Work ethic and you’ll make it.

00:34:23:01 –> 00:34:41:00
Yeah. But I mean, if you ask 20 people, they give you 20 different answers. Like, how’d you do? You know, because there’s no set, there’s no school, there’s no Right. Whatever. You just gotta, you know. But my thing is like, I always thought if I owned a business, I wouldn’t hire people that didn’t have a good resume. Right. So just whether I had to work for free for years, that’s cool. I’ll do it. Right. You know? Right.

00:34:41:09 –> 00:35:08:18
Well, right on. Well I wish you the best of luck. Appreciate you being on with us. You’re awesome. Yeah, thanks. Doing good things and wish you the best man. Appreciate it. So anyway, wanna, wanna say thanks to Under Armour and, and all the support they give Epic Outdoors and these podcasts and, and the awesome company they are. And of course making awesome gear and, and incredible camel pattern supporting us in the Ry season, you know, and the different hunts we do for them. So anyway, appreciate them. Appreciate you Remy, and good luck buddy. Yeah,

00:35:08:18 –> 00:35:09:20
Thanks. Alright. All right. See you.