EP 108: I Married a Hunter. With Jana Carter and Becki Bronson. In this episode of The Epic Outdoors Podcast Jason and Adam bring in their wives for a podcast. This episode is full of laughs as the “Hunting Widows” talk about being married to a hunter. They discuss the challenges and the growing pains that were all part of life with a husband that hunts. We hear about both relationships from their beginning as Jason and Adam listen with anticipation to the comments from their wives. If you are married to a hunter you will relate to this episode.

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Why do you let him hunt so much and you make the rest of us look bad? I was like, what is this life that I have walked into? I married a caveman. Don’t worry honey, no elk will ever take your place.

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Anything to do with Western Big Games.

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Welcome to the Epic Outdoors Podcast, powered by Under Armour.

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How sassy we gonna get today? Oh, I guess

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We’ll find out.

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Yep. Jason and I have a few safe words that we’ve previously talked about today. This goes a direction we’re not totally comfortable with. We’re fearful for one reason or another. We might utter those that will only be known to ourselves. And

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We’ll leave, we’ll leave the building. So anyway, we’ve got our wives in this room with us today. Did you guys go through the metal detector to make sure we we’re not armed and dangerous? We were

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Supposed to run you through T Ss a before you got in here. The airport is just over here.

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Thank you guys.

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I think we’re both packing. Oh yeah.

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Jana is a concealed weapons permit holder. And so anyway, so

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Don’t mess with Janet.

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Don’t mess with Janet. No, don’t. Should knock you out.

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In all seriousness, it’s, it is fun. I, we’re looking forward to this. Who knows where it go. We don’t really have a script, but we thought it’d be fun just to get our wives on here. Becky is my wife, Mrs. Adam and Janet Carter, Jason’s wife. Just to talk about big mules being

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Oh yeah.

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How to hunt them, you know, best units, all that.

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Yes. Drop some history. The history of hunting,

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You know, hybrid draw versus regular draws in Colorado, stuff like that.

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The important stuff.

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Where should we start with this? Basically from a, from a hunter’s wive’s perspective, we kind of wanted to visit with them and, and maybe they can kind of spew some of the things that they’ve dealt with, with being married to hunters and different things. And maybe even how you met. Maybe Adam and Becky, you can start off with how did you two meet and how did you get to where you’re at today?

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Well we met at Southern Utah University. We were both going to college there. And very unique story. I bought Becky as a slave. They had a slave auction.

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I was like, I was like those wenches in the Pirates of the Caribou ride. You know, they’re all kind of standing there.

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By went

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Alison. Oh,

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No way.

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No way.

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Alright. I know quite like

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So, well how much did you have to

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Pay? I don’t remember.

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It was like 300 bucks in Monopoly

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Money or something. Don’t remember. It was like, they had,

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It was for, they called it the Thunderbird Awards. It was Spirit Week for Ss u u and they had different people up there,

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All the student body officers. And she had just won a Miss s u pageant. So they had her up there. And so me and me and all my roommates guys from Monticello, we, we bought her. The thing was how big boy?

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Yeah. So

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She had to come to our apartment and make you breakfast and whatever. That’s basically all it was. No way.

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Oh yeah.

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And then

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Made you all breakfast, all your roommates.

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Oh yeah. The whole apartment. But, but so then

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You need write off if she could cook. Yeah.

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What you make. Becky was, but then she showed up with about three or four friends. ’cause I think she was like, I’m a single gal going to six strangers apartments. Yeah.

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Zero clue where these guys were. We showed up to their apartment. It looks scary. And I will, I won’t tell you, I, I was so surprised. We walk in, they’re all watching that show Saved by the bell.

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Come on.

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I’m serious. I’m being serious. No, you thought you walked into it. I was like, who are those? These guys? This is the weirdest thing,

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But just what was happening to be all,

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Don’t mind us. We’re gonna start the eggs.

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So we cooked, they cooked, we cooked this thing called elbow skewers. I had a friend who’d served a mission in a country where they cooked that kind of stuff. They’re these like round pancakes, made them orange juice, got talking to them. And I remember Adams saying, I remember meeting him and I just thought, oh, he’s got such a great smile. And I loved his name. I’ve always liked the name Adam Bronson. It’s just a solid name. Yeah, yeah. I had a last name, no one could pronounce or spell. It was Widener. It’s German. And so I was like, oh, that’s a really solid last name. I noticed stuff like that. Anyway, he said I’m pre-dental. At the time he was pre-dental. Yeah. Wow. That’s like always got ambition, sidetrack. So do, do you remember she’s,

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She’s judging and profiling.

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Oh, I, I judge. Oh, I judge. And I mean, I shouldn’t, but you know how it is. I mean, you just like, you just kind of, there’s these little check mark boxes.

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You’re gonna Becky Bronson, Becky

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Bronson, when I, he was super nice. They were all very polite. But I remember we went up, I don’t remember why, but we were like, do you guys keep your rooms clean? Or whatever. So we went up and checked your room. I don’t remember that. And for some re it was clean. I was like, oh, he’s a clean person. Well, his

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Desk is perfectly

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Organized. That’s perfect. But I guess you guys had cleaned it the night before. ’cause you knew we were coming or something. Oh, who knows. I’m sure. Anyway, so we cooked the elbow skiers and we were just kind of talking smack. I can’t remember how, how

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Well we got talking. They were all friends from high school and they’d play volleyball. And so we just got, hey, well we could probably crush you guys. So it turned into kinda like, Hey, we’ll challenge you to volleyball game. Yeah.

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And somebody’s cooking dinner.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Double on top

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Of bread. Like double or nothing or something like that. So then we did that. And then, I dunno, apparently her, her friends thought we had some kind of connection and they actually set us up on a big, we had a big group date and they kind of set us up. And that was, that’s kind of how we had our first date. And I remember on her first date, you remember this?

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Oh, I won’t forget.

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She asked me, you know, and I, I’m like, you Jason, I like, like, and love to hunt. Yeah. But she asked me and I was interested in her, but she said, so are you a hunter? And I don’t even know how it came

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Up. I know how it did. There was a wolf magnet on the fridge of the house. We were at, we were at one of my friends’s house. We, we, we were playing games and stuff. It’s kind of a big group date. There was a wolf magnet. And I don’t know why, it just occurred to me. I thought, I’ve gotta ask this guy because he’s cute, he’s nice, whatever.

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This isn’t Adam’s over there drawing a radical on it.

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Yeah. So, and you gotta set the stage. You’re a, you’re, you’re of you, you had a single, you lived with your mom, single mom with five sisters, no male influence.

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Four sisters or five girls, sorry. And we grew up to, to despise hunting. Like my mom said, you know, hunters are evil. It’s a blood sport. I remember we lived across the street from someone who would collect antlers and, and she would always comment about, you know, that’s just wrong and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. She was, she was the type that didn’t even kill flies. She’d catch ’em and set ’em free outside. You know what I mean? Like that’s the way I was raised. Gee. Oh yeah. So it was like, you know, she was a very, she she was very much that way and raised me that way. And I wouldn’t say I was completely like that, but I was definitely like, yeah, hunting’s just not Yeah, no way. Like hunters and that whole culture. Yeah. It’s just not me. I’m gonna marry a big town guy. I am gonna, I’m never gonna marry a hunter. And I’ve learned in life, you never, never say never, never, never. Like, you just don’t. Because when, when I said to him, so I saw that wolf magnet and I was like, we better get

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This covered

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Right now. Yeah. Like, are you a hunter? ’cause we’re, this ain’t going anywhere. If it is, I didn’t say that part, I remember. But I just said, are you a hunter? And he’s like, yeah, I am. And I was like, okay, first and last name. I

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Didn’t pour it, you know, I didn’t pour it on. I was

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Just like, I was just like, he’s cute, but you know, he’s just one of these guys.

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He’s, I’ll let him buy 14 dinners and then I’m gonna crush it.

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Yeah, that’s right.

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See what I can get out of this before I hit the exit. The, the eject

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Button. That’s right. That’s right. So,

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But yeah, after that, that,

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So you, so you asked the question. Yeah.

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Adam and Adam sugarcoat it

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And he’s nonchalant. You know, I kind of, you know Yeah, yeah. I’m a hunter. And I was like, ah, first last date we’re done. Like, you’re, you’re cute and everything, but this is all good. And we’re it’s it’s over. Yeah. It’s sure. I mean, I just thought he was cute and he’s fine. It’s fine. You know, but you’re, this isn’t gonna go anywhere. Yeah. And I was pretty close to graduating. I mean, I was a little, I was technically older in, you know, the sense of, you know,

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Well, and you’re older than me, as are you. Right. China older than Jason.

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So that’s the way I like it.

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Gotta raise

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To this poor little boy. So anyway,

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So anyway, I, I thought he is a pretty forward guy. We were playing murder in the dark. Okay. So I’m a, I’m a I’m a very conservative person. I mean, I just am, you know, I didn’t ever kiss on a first day ever. I mean, I just wasn’t that person. And we were playing Murder in the Dark. And I remember he put his hand on my back and I was like, I mean, that just shows you how, how I was

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Not a bareback, not a

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Bareback, just, just putting his hand on my back and kind of like rested it there. And I was like, oh my gosh, this guy is so forward.

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He’s forward and he kills sand. I’m outta here. It was

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Dangerous. Dangerous. This is just, I just don’t know, you know? ’cause I just, I don’t know how to tell you. It was just kind of a crazy, we just came from different worlds, you know? Yes. I just was a very conservative person. So in that regard. So anyway,

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I was interested. That was why I did

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That dei. That’s right. That’s

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Right. Trying to set the hook.

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That’s well, early.

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Yeah. We all lie a little. Yeah, we do. I don’t And you’re young enough to think I can change her. I can change her. Okay.

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And, and there you go. And that’s a point we should come to later. ’cause that’s, that’s important. So anyway, for

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All you that aren’t married out there, we’re gonna fix, we’re gonna, we’re

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Gonna give ’em some advice. Gonna give advice, give you some marital advice. That’s

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Right. Give you premarital

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That’s right. That’s rights. Lessons learned. Good lessons learned.

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So if we could, then we can fast forward through the next several dates. The hook was set and the hook

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Was set. I told her, I officially told her I loved hunting. No. Yeah.

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I don’t know if I ever really said that. Can tell. We were married.

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It was the secret in the closet.

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And then, and then they fig She figured it out really quick.

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Oh, well what the, the, my first clue into things was I needed an escort for homecoming. I was the homecoming queen. And so I, I couldn’t go stag to the homecoming dance. I needed a date. Well, he had, he had,

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I was guiding and I, he couldn’t get out of it.

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We were engaged. You were engaged.

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We, she’s like, she’s on the phone. You’re, you’re guiding. Yeah. What does that mean? And I was like, oh, you’re

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Hunting. You’re gonna put guiding over escorting me to the homecoming dance. And, and he’s like, well, I’ve made this commitment, da da dah da dah. And it was like, it that was more

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For more dates and more stakes and Well,

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And it was probably one of the first times in our relationship that I used the, the, the, the phrase I’m just providing for our family.

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Heard that one about him.

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Was that a

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Million Becky? I wanna know who took you to the dance?

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Let’s, to

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That point, I asked a, somebody else I asked a friend was he is a cheerleader and he was,

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By this time, were you dating thick enough that Adam had,

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We were engaged. They

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Were engaged.

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Yeah. We’re getting married. Like,

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So the

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Priorities. But I, did Adam dictate a call? Brent? He’s the only, only one that well, well,

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Yeah. I don’t know who this guy was, but she asked a male cheerleader. I thought that was probably safe. Oh, for sure. And so for sure. Safe. So that’s who she took.

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So, yeah. Yeah. And it, it worked out. But that was kind of the first window into what it was gonna be like. You know, there was, for me it was, this is, I should come numero uno, you know, Becky should be the top priority. And in so many ways I am. But it was my first window into competing with an animal for,

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Or animals

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For prioritization and attention.

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And, and my defense real quickly, because we gotta give Janice and Mike time. I, Adam taken the court. I had Yes.

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Don’t point out my tactics. Just,

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Just lemme talk. Keep going.

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I, I had taken the quarter off ’cause it was, we were gonna get married in, in December and I had taken that quarter off just to guide all fall and save some money and get married. So I was actually not living in Cedar City at the time. I was living back in Monticello. Yes. And guiding over there. So it’s not like I was just in town and No, I’m gonna go guide. And you take some guy to the dance. Yes. There’s a little, I just had to set that stage a

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Little clearer. You were living two separate lives and it was good. Yeah, it was good until it wasn’t good. Okay, Janet, I got it.

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So how did you guys meet Jana?

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Similar, I suppose, to you guys? We were in college together and we each, we lived in the same apartment complex. I lived upstairs. Jason lived downstairs. And so we met that way. He dated my roommates. I dated, I dated his

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Roommate, dated every one of her roommates.

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My word, everyone was that awkward, like, not everyone just kinda like a no no one bites the dust.

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No, no. Nope. That’s way, it wasn’t awkward. I didn’t like him then. I mean, I, I mean, I liked him, but I didn’t like him. Player.

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You were

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A player. And so, whoa. He dated a lot of my roommates. I dated a lot of his roommates. Then he set me up with all of his friends, my roommate

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That he

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Knew was safe.

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My roommates were safe. Yeah.

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He, he only set me up with the ones that were safe. The ones that might not have been. He like kept me clear those. Yeah. Yeah. So we dated, we didn’t really date, I guess for a long time. We just knew each other. Ran in the same circle a little bit. Had similar friends. And then my senior year, he was a junior

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In college. Yep. Utah State

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In college. Yep. Yeah. You, Utah State. He, I had moved into another apartment complex, as had he, and, and, but we had kept in touch a little bit on and off. And I, well

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Back up, we’re dating. There was no rush you in my mind. She was always gonna be there. And, and so I her and in

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My mind there wasn’t even a consideration gave that there was anything going on. Sure.

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And, and, and I thought, and she was perfect.

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What gave you that? So you think she’s perfect, perfect. But then you also thought she would always be there. How do you make that connection? Well, because usually perfect doesn’t

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Stick around. I, she always like, you would, you would,

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But perfect doesn’t usually stick around.

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You’d go to school, then you would have summer break and then you come back and there she is again. And there was kind of some continuity, you know, like we go to school, we have summer, we come home and go back to school. You know? And so it was just like, but

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Mind you, we weren’t even dating through these summers. Yeah. We just knew

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Each other. We knew we were dating off and on. And then when we would date, we would be, you know, pretty thick. And,

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And well it was funny, my roommates and I used to joke,

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Oh, this is good. This is the good stuff.

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We didn’t really date, but we, we did a little bit, I guess. But he would go home to visit his parents and he would come back and date me with a vengeance for like three or four weeks. And then stop was like

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After a Christmas break or something like that. Well, like

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He went home, or even

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A weekend. Even in a weekend, he went home for a weekend. He’d come back and, and date like with a vengeance. And I’m like, this guy is funny. And we would joke about it a little

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Bit and I was so confident. I’m like, I can have this chick whenever I want her. Oh. I mean that was like the confidence

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That he was arrogant, not confident. Arrogant. Well, it

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Was just like, it was like, she’s always there. That’s what I was thinking. She’s always,

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And I wasn’t thinking, I wasn’t thinking he was an option. I was just thinking he was a friend in a while. We do stuff. He wasn’t even an option in my book. Jason’s

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Like, I got this locked up

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Whenever I want it. I just

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Thought the question and we’re doing this well, kind of. Yeah. Anyway,

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He would come back and crazy, but on paper. So I had

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Like crazy. And that’s,

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And and I found out years later that what was happening is he would go home and he would talk to his parents and he would tell his dad all about me. And that he knows this perfect girl and this is what, you know, tell him all the details. And his dad would say, well, what are you waiting for? Marry that girl. And so he would come back and date me like he was gonna marry me and then get cold feet and go, oh god.

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So it was a little, it wasn’t fairytale love, it was more like, so I have this list of what I want in a wife. Okay. And Jana, it, it was every checkbox. Got it. Oh,

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I a perfect, I don’t play the piano. Yeah. That was on the list. I don’t play the piano.

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She was, she was cute. She was, you know, extremely attractive. She went through and went through everything, the I

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Mom attributes, everything you knew that would come later on

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Her roommates. So I’m dating her roommates in and around Jana. And her roommates would be like, she got up at 5:00 AM and started vacuuming that dumb.

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Okay. So, and

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I’m like, and I’m like, hold on, on duh. That’s my wife. Ding ding, ding, ding, dinging. I mean, it was like, just went on and on. And she was a clean freak. She worked out.

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I might’ve done that. I might’ve done that one time, but it’s only ’cause my roommates were so messy. And I’d be like, can’t we just keep the common areas clean? And they were so, and one morning I was just like, that’s fine, I’ll keep it clean, but I can do it at 5:00 AM And I know it bugged him, but I only did it once. I really only did it once.

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It was the only time that counted. I mean, I was, because I heard about it and I was like, I’m taking her on another date. Maybe five of them within three days. I don’t care. So anyway, so

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Anyway, we dated on and off a little bit, but not, not in my mind, not serious in his mind. Maybe it was more serious. But then my senior year we had moved apart as far as where we lived. And I was walking through the parking lot of his complex on my way to school one day. And he was pulling out, he and a another one of our common friends that had been room, she

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Walked through the parking lot on purpose, I think all the time to make sure that I say it.

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Huh? I live two blocks off campus and his parking lot was on the way. It’s not like I was,

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I’m telling you, it’s not like I was diverting. I’m telling you, I’m telling you.

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It, it makes him feel good. It makes him feel good. We let him say it. It’s, yeah.

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Don’t sound polar opposite stories. I, where the truth is in there,

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Regardless. I was on my way to class and he picked me up one morning with, he had another friend with him and we went up the canyon and, and he was four wheeling his truck over big log stumps and stuff.

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And she was like this.

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And I was just like, that was the first time. Oh, he

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Was, she was,

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Well I grew up, so a little background, I grew up in Wyoming in Star Valley as a rancher’s daughter. So I had, I have four brothers and a younger sister who’s eight years younger than I am. So I grew up with a bunch of boys. We rode horses. Horses

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And their grew, you gotta have a backbone to be around them boys. Well

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They’re, they’re awesome. But, but it was real life, you know, and we did a lot of hard things and he’s driving over these stumps and stuff. And I thought it just, I, I guess it just struck me. I thought this is something not every guy can do or is comfortable doing or, you know, it’s kind of a mantra trait to, and, and my, my brothers are all like, that grew up that way.

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Familiar. It went familiar. So from sitting in the passenger seat to lifting up the center console and

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Cracking. Okay, so that’s not true. Kip Kip was in the passenger seat and I was sitting between them. So Jason, but you know, Jason makes these things up. I don’t know. I’m telling

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I’m telling, if you want the truth, ask me if you want the fabrication keep

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And, and, and I know Kip so I I I’ll sort through it later.

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That’s right. Ki ki can verify. Anyway, it was just, that was, that was probably the first time I really thought, eh, maybe this guy’s an option, like a real option. So, but at that point I hadn’t realized that he’d been two years into the process of falling in love with me. So two years. Two years did you say? I think, I think we’d known each other two years by then. That was our third year. That was our third year.

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Wow. Wow. I didn’t know it was that long.

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And so anyway, from that point forward, like he started dating me with a, as a a with a vengeance again. Yep. It was like, it’s like we hadn’t seen each other for a while. That was the first time we had had interaction in, in several months. And then he was like on it again. And so we dated really hard. And at the time I had, so I had a guy that I had been dating for a long time and he had gone on a mission for his church and was serving a mission. And I kind of thought when he got home that we would get back together. And so I was about to graduate. I

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Mean, I didn’t even, that didn’t even, I didn’t care about

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That. I was about to graduate.

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He he was gone. Yeah. It was, she was outta sight outta my no big deal. Yeah.

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And I was, I was about to graduate college in a few months. Really? I don’t know, it was probably like March or something. Yeah. And I would be graduating in May. And so he took me out the next morning to breakfast and I was just kind of giving him an update. ’cause we hadn’t hung out for a long time. And I was telling him like, I’m gonna graduate. I have a job. I’m gonna move back to Nevada where my family was at that point. And I’m in a, I got a missionary coming home and see how that goes. When it gets

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Here. I’m thinking she’s got a job. I’ve got another year in school

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And she’s got a job. So we’re,

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Is good. We’re driving in the truck. She’s, we’re headed back to the university. We both have classes and I’m kind of giving him this rundown. And he leans over and puts his hand on my knee and he says, well, you know, we’re getting married. Right? And

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It was, it was, it was like that,

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That was the proposal.

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That was, that was the proposal.

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And I was like, oh my

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Word. And she goes, well you gotta, I

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Said, well, I wa I felt like laughing out loud, but this, the look on his face was so dropped and

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Serious. Well, I’m done. I’m done. I made the decision

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That I couldn’t, we’re done. I was like, I looked at him and I realized how serious he was. And I looked at him and I said, well that’s funny because I’ve never even heard you say I love you. And he said, well, I can learn to love you. Oh. And I thought, wow, that’s a Romeo. And

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She react, well, here’s the deal. Whatever was on that paper and that list was the most important thing in the world. And once they meet all that criteria, then you let yourself fall in love and she gonna fall in love with a piece of crap. Yeah.

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And she had just, but she’d also then teed up the stuff she’s finishing and she’s gonna be leaving and you’re kind of feeling like,

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Well, and I’ve dated four girls, she’s

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Hundred on the

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Girls by, she’s dated a hundred guys or 400 guys or whatever. And I was like, I’m, I’m done. This is, this is, the Lord has brought us together here at Taco Bell and this is what we’re doing. You know? How

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Did you make the, the informal announcement? Like then how long until the formal one that was it tell the formal one was, well I,

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To get rid of it, I had to get rid of a girl or two. There was a girl that tried to kiss me. You tried to really, I mean a jama same thing

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At that point. He said, you know, he was like so serious. And I was like, whatever. It’s a good thing I don’t have romantic on my list, you know? Yeah. Because, because that’s

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Not, that’s a this is an F. Yeah. You

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Got an F on f I failed. I

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Failed. So anyway, but in my mind I thought, yeah, he’ll date me with a vengeance for three or four weeks and then it’ll go away again. Like it has, because it always has. And so he, he had a date that night actually, and he went out on the date and told the girl he was never gonna date her again, that we were gonna get married. And it was over and she cried and then he comes back and he tells me, I knew her, she was a nice girl. I knew her.

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She’s a cute little thing, but had nothing on paper that Jana

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Had. But anyway, so of course I didn’t know that that day, but I knew later that that’s how it had gone. But anyway, he dated me like so serious. And I was like, any day now he’s gonna just like be gone again. You know? So I wasn’t really all that concerned about it, but then he just like kept at it and was serious. And then my graduation was looming and, and, and my missionary was actually coming home the week I graduated. And so then I was at that point where I was like, okay, do I like him?

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Do I think this could really

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Be a, a real thing serious?

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Yeah. And so, so then I did start analyzing it from that perspective. And we dated really seriously. And we, and, and I realized that, yeah, he’s the guy for me that, I don’t know, maybe it was the driving over boulders or something.

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I don’t know

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That was, but yeah. So anyway, we, we got engaged, officially engaged shortly after I graduated.

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She wrecked a truck from the university. She rolled

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A truck. I did roll a truck.

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She rolled her brother’s Toyota on Minville Highway. And, and I,

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Well I came home to see him. I came home to see him and it was just the school had let out and I had to go back to the, back to Logan and pick up all my stuff, move outta my apartment. And so I stopped to see him on the way. And we were trying to talk about a wedding date. Should we do it in August? Should we do it in December? Like should he go for another school, another semester and then get married in December? And I had a job. I was, I had graduated with a teaching certificate and I was gonna teach at the high school in, in

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Nevada. And I made her quit that job

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In Nevada, come support us up there. And, and, and anyway, so I had left his house and we had not made a decision about when to get married. And I was driving down Minville Highway and I wrecked my brother’s truck. I had my little brother’s truck. I felt so bad. Two little Toyota

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With thin cabs, you know, way back in the day, right? Yeah. Thin cab top Toyota. The whole cab was crushed except for where she

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Right my head, right around my head, it just like folded around

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Me. Like it flat, flat and then rounder head and Oh my, I mean, yes. Rolled

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It multiple times. So anyway, I, we had the big block cell phones back then. So my phone flew out and the guy behind me had pulled over to see if I was alive. And he found my phone on his way to check on me. And, and I called Jason and said, you’re gonna have to come get me. And we went. So he did, took me back to his house. And that night he officially proposed that night. Like

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Which is another had

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Wedding plan, sign sealed, deliver done.

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Which is another very unreal magic story. If I were to

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Tell you proposal. So you’re maybe not always gonna be on the shelf. I better take, I better make this the deal.

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Let’s move on. Adam, let’s let you have the mic.

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No, that, that was good.

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So, well, and I was thinking about it when we got engaged. It was, it was a little different. Well anyway, I didn’t know there was a difference between a deer and an elk. That’s how bad my knowledge was regarding hunting. I really thought elk were larger deer. I know, I, I really hate to admit that. ’cause I know how foolish that looks, but that’s literally where I was coming from getting into this world. But you know, when you’re talking about your check boxes, that was, that was what all the check boxes that were really important to me. Adamant Every single one. Yes. Every single one. Yes. And so I didn’t know what I was getting into, but you know, none of us really do. You knows True. Before we get married, we’re like, we don’t know what this is gonna look like, but I know he fits all the things that I want.

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And you just feel, for me it was like a feeling I’d never felt this confirmation of this is he’s the one, he is the one. And that for me helped get through some of the adjust fact that he adjustment was Hunter. Right. Like, because I, I didn’t know what we were entering. And at the time he was pre-dental and so it was kinda like, I kind of pictured my life as in, you know, he goes to work at, at eight, he comes home at five and it’s gonna just be this kind of, that was a big issue.

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Boring. That’s a good point. That’s a good point. So he’s pre-dental. Yeah. And you sold her on a, a bill of goods. Adam, that didn’t come true because now Adam, whatcha doing to me. Adam, whatcha doing to me now? You’re a professional hunter. It went from Oh yeah. It went from saving flies to a professional killer.

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Well, and so about six months into our marriage, would you say about six months? I don’t know where to walk. He was like, you know, he was, he was a biology major to be pre-dental. And he was like, you know, I just don’t think staring down into mouths every single day is what I wanna do. I I I really enjoy the outdoors. And he’d worked for the division doing some, what was your title there? Yeah, just habitat Do projects, project, project, project. Working on projectors and different things. That’s right. That’s right. And so he’s like, this is really where my heart is more. And so I think I wanna be a wildlife biologist and I need to get a master’s and go up to a university called Utah State. And your

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Point should have been what’s the average income there? Okay. And what’s the average income of looking into mouse? Okay.

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Correct. Correct. I did no homework on this. I was so naive. You know, I just thought,

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Which we all are at 2020. Whatever,

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We’re naive.

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Thankfully it’s

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True. I didn’t realize you wanna be

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Supportive of whatever their dreams

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Are, right? Well, I, I wanted him to do what he loved, but I thought, oh sure, get a master’s and you’re gonna earn an excellent income and Yes. Then we’ll have some stability. That’s what I kept wanting. So I got my degree at s u u in broadcasting and I worked at a radio station, Logan, to put him through and got his so he could get his master’s. And we had our first child and, and all the adjustment that comes with that. And he was gone for research projects on the, you know, looking at watering sources for bitcoin sheep for weeks and weeks and weeks at a time. And, and I was getting a, she started

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To get a glimpse.

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I was just starting to Yeah, I’m seeing that. But, but

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All the while he’s reminding you that, that you’re gonna have insurance, health insurance, you’re gonna have paid holidays. I mean, there’s paid holidays that you won’t be home

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For. That’s correct. Well, I just thought there would be some stability. I thought there would be some. Once we get his masters, then there’ll be, we’ll have a set schedule eight to five and eight to five.

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You know, I come home, we’ll, door flies schedule, we’ll have schedule open and Hey honey, I’m,

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Because I’m a schedule gal. Yes. I like to know when things are Okay. So he gets his masters. We moved, we moved to Pengu. Pengu the only job opening in the state for wildlife biologists. Yeah. Starting salary

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Or so or so unit.

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Okay, well there you go. That could be, I was like, again,

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We’re rolling in it like 30 grand a year. 30

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Grand. Yeah. There was a little more than we had been earning at while

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He was Yeah, you’re coming outta college, you think we’re fluffed. Right? You’re

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Thinking you’re wealthy opposite. I was like, and then he’s up at four for before the sunrises to to count sage grouse you numbers and home to count the deer in the fields and do depredation permits. And I’m getting phone calls from angry farmers for all hours of the night. I was like, what is this life? What is this job that I have walked into?

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I did, did not sign

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Up for this. I did not sign up for this. What is going on?

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So, so the

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Community was gonna love us and now they don’t.

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But it was just, and he would hunt, you know, obviously, and so on. For me it was like I’d had it in my head this expectation of what it would, what my life would look like as a, as a mom, as a wife. And it wasn’t anything what I had pictured. Yes. And, and to be fair, I mean I grew up in a single household with four sisters. Right. I mean, we did not watch e Ss p n Right. You know, we just didn’t do, I, I, one thing I was grateful for, for Adam was he took me out hunting and taught me the things I had never learned. And I loved that. I loved that. But it was that expectation in my head of this is how it’s supposed to be. And this is how, not at all how it is that we’re just, it was just a real difficult transition. Transition and managing. And, and I think

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Sorry Adam, are you ready to say

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Word? No, no, but I was just about to say, I think Jen, you Jason, probably had similar feelings. Now take the mic guys.

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Well, and I think what what I, what I think is what I think is incredibly important is that you wouldn’t, when you’re young like that, you’re moldable, changeable. I mean, Jen and I aren’t even the same people that we were before we got married.

00:31:46:23 –> 00:31:47:00

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You, you, you mold and work together and change each other to who we are today. That’s true.

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You have to tell your honeymoon story. Yes.

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Oh, you have to tell us. Come on. No, that’s where I was going.

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I was going to how we brought Adam on into the

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World. No,

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Becky, we brought you to the big city, which is always what, what you wanted Cedar. I was gonna that route. That’s

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Alright. That happened. Story. But, but where I was going is how reality of, I’m a married Mrs. Carter and this is how life’s gonna be. And the first week or 10 days of marriage, what was it like, Jana? We were young

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For sure. And his, for our wedding gift, his parents gave us a camp trailer, which I did not understand at the time. The camp trailer

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We’re talk, we’re not talking pop outs and we’re talking a real base model. No air conditioning, 23 footer, tongue pole trailer. Yeah. Very nice wedding gift. Yeah. Like we, I was ecstatic, right? Yeah. And they’re like, you’re gonna need this to keep your marriage together. Partly, here you go. You’re partly thinking

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I could save rent. We could live at the RV park in this thing and I’ll be fine.

00:32:51:04 –> 00:32:55:12
Oh dude, you’re partly thinking that, you know, I thought that, that that’s what you do is kids.

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No, I, the truth is it was compensation. Okay. And I just didn’t recognize it.

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Okay. So, so, and I’ve got an old 89 chef that barely runs. Yeah.

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We were both, I mean, I was just graduated. He still had a year of school. We, we had no money. But his parents gave us his camp trailer and we decided that we would go camping for our honeymoon. And the LaSalle Mountains was a place he’d grew up playing on and loved it. And so we went to, was this right LaSalle? This before my sheep hunt mountains right before, yeah. Right before sheep.

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So I had a bell sheep hunt planned.

00:33:26:10 –> 00:33:40:23
Yeah. And they wanted to give us a sheet they wanted to send me with him on that hunt for a honeymoon. But I had a contract to teach school and it was, they wouldn’t work with me. Yeah. ’cause it was first year. So anyway, we went out on the LaSalle and, and honeymoon. This

00:33:40:23 –> 00:33:49:13
Is back above my lab. Adam. Adam was raised over there by Lasal. And, and I was too, until I was in sixth grade. Sixth grade. After sixth grade, we moved to Cedar City. So,

00:33:49:16 –> 00:33:58:05
So first morning, you know, I’m cooking breakfast in and I look out the window and Jason’s out there in the foldout camp chair in his underwear. I need my

00:33:58:05 –> 00:33:58:26
Underwear out there in the

00:33:59:12 –> 00:34:00:19
Foldout camp chair in the mountains

00:34:00:23 –> 00:34:01:24
With my 22, 2 50

00:34:01:24 –> 00:34:10:07
With 22, 2 50. And all I can see I’m smoking chicken, all these little chipmunks and just poof, poof, poof. Just like every

00:34:10:16 –> 00:34:13:04
Marry 10 or 12 year old, the Anderson

00:34:13:04 –> 00:34:27:04
Popping, popping chipmunks right and left. And I’m thinking, well, you know, I mean, it’s okay. I grew up, like I said, on a ranch and we shot, we shot ducks in foxes, the coyotes. And, and to go back a little, I mean, I wasn’t, I

00:34:27:05 –> 00:34:46:12
I I, I asked Jan to go back just a little bit. Okay. Just a little bit. I was like, there’s one thing I need to know and is that, are you a traditional wife? Like you wanna be a traditional, I wanna make the money, but I want somebody to take care of the house. The kids, not the 50 50 stuff. Like I’m very traditional. And she was like, yes, that would be my dream too. You know,

00:34:46:25 –> 00:34:51:14
I am, for the most part, I am traditional and I Yes. And it’s worked for us. Like that’s been, so I’m in the

00:34:51:14 –> 00:34:53:16
Lawn chair for us thinking my wife’s gonna cook breakfast because

00:34:53:16 –> 00:34:55:02
We’re traditional. I’m cooking. Yeah. And I’m okay with that. And

00:34:55:02 –> 00:34:55:28
I’m smoking Chick m

00:34:57:03 –> 00:35:42:14
And I’m okay with that too. Like, I, I’m okay with that too. I just thought, huh. Well that’s fun. So anyway, that was our first morning and then, and then later that day we were driving out across the mountain looking for animals and just enjoying the day and enjoying being married and time together. And anyway, we drive down this road, there was a bird that ran across the road, big breasted bird. And Jason gets all kind of excited, slams on the brakes, puts it in park, jumps out, picks up a a rock, picks up a rock, and chucks it at the bird, hits him right in the head and stunts it. The bird’s like shocked sitting there. And before the bird has time to recover, Jason jumps over, grabs him, rings his neck, rips him apart, pulls off the breasts and throws him in the cooler.

00:35:42:29 –> 00:35:43:06

00:35:43:06 –> 00:35:43:29
We got, and

00:35:43:29 –> 00:35:59:13
I’m sitting there like, I’m married a caveman. Oh my gosh. I mean, he jumps back in the truck just glowing big old smile. I’m like, you, that’s the best me ever. It’s gonna be so good for dinner. And I’m like, okay, okay.

00:35:59:14 –> 00:36:04:17
Is it like he’s got his wife chicken, he’s gotta provide that. He’s like, the instincts are kicking in for

00:36:04:17 –> 00:36:11:25
Jason. Oh my gosh. I was just like, well, we’re never gonna go hungry. Right. I mean, there you go, Becky. I have security. I had security in the first day. There you go.

00:36:13:17 –> 00:36:18:13
Okay. And the next week, let’s continue this. Or two weeks later or whatever doll, sheep put.

00:36:18:23 –> 00:36:20:05
Oh, he went doll sheep put Yeah,

00:36:20:06 –> 00:36:25:04
Yeah. Went up there. Missed my wife, was wishing I was with her. Went killed my first sheep of my life,

00:36:25:17 –> 00:36:52:00
Doll sheep. And I was, I had, okay, so I gave up my teaching job and went back to Logan so that we wouldn’t have to live apart for the first year of our marriage. So I was back at Logan and I was just working every day. And he went dol, sheep hunting and for two weeks. Right. It was two full two full weeks. Okay. And we’ve been married two weeks. Yeah. I think we’d been married two weeks, close or minus. He didn’t call me for two weeks. Oh. I didn’t, how are you gonna call? I didn’t, we don’t have

00:36:52:02 –> 00:36:55:08
Sat phone. We don’t have, this was 1995 or six.

00:36:55:14 –> 00:37:01:10
Yeah. It wasn’t possible. But I didn’t know that. And he didn’t explain that before he left. So I’m sitting here thinking

00:37:01:20 –> 00:37:02:14
He’s dead somewhere.

00:37:02:25 –> 00:37:03:25
He hates me. Right.

00:37:04:01 –> 00:37:06:14
Like, he married me and he’s already gone. He’s, he’s

00:37:06:14 –> 00:37:42:16
Gone for two weeks. Doesn’t call ring on your finger. Doesn’t that tell you all you need to know? Like, and so by the time we got home, I was like, this is not a great idea. Like, I don’t know what I did. I made a wrong decision here because who leaves their wife for two weeks and doesn’t even make a phone call. Hey. And it wasn’t until after we discussed it that I realized like he was like out in the back country where there was no phone. I mean, I didn’t, I didn’t know I was new to that, that kind of hunting. I wasn’t new to hunting, but I was new to that kind of hunting. Yeah. So anyway, that was a little adjustment. But we, you know, then I’m like, okay, so that, that’s there, there you go. Another expectation, just know that when he leaves he may not hear from him and you just, oh, we fish,

00:37:42:16 –> 00:37:43:04
We fish soon.

00:37:43:12 –> 00:37:43:20

00:37:43:25 –> 00:37:46:17
Lake. We did all, it was a great week. It really was.

00:37:46:28 –> 00:37:47:08
I’m for

00:37:47:08 –> 00:38:01:20
You. Remember one time Adam left me a note. It was a few months after we’d been married and he was gone, gone, gone. It was this note on the back of an old envelope that we’d open and it said, don’t worry honey, no elk will ever take your place. No

00:38:01:21 –> 00:38:02:24
Way. She kept the letter.

00:38:03:06 –> 00:38:05:11
I kept it because it’s absolute bull crap.

00:38:07:02 –> 00:38:07:12

00:38:08:14 –> 00:38:11:04
It’s probably true. He doesn’t love elk. Like he looked sheep. Oh

00:38:13:06 –> 00:38:17:08
I, yeah. It was a carefully species was inserted carefully.

00:38:17:13 –> 00:38:18:16
Okay. Point taken, point

00:38:18:16 –> 00:38:20:11
Taken. I don’t, no analog could ever replace you.

00:38:24:28 –> 00:38:30:01
Oh, speaking of antelope, that was my first 10. Oh. That was my first four way into his world. Oh,

00:38:30:01 –> 00:38:52:16
We’re gonna go. Yeah, we’d been married two or three years and she finally one day. ’cause I, you know, I didn’t, he’d been putting me in all these things, put pressure on things and yeah. I didn’t put pressure on her. Like, Hey, if you won’t ever hunt, that’s fine, but you don’t need to. Obviously we got married and you didn’t. But she, she had an interest in wanting to do that. And I just to make sure she, it was what she wanted to do. She went to all the classes herself. I think you maybe even went and shot Oh yeah. By herself with the teacher. Like, I don’t think I like was No, I

00:38:52:22 –> 00:38:54:05
Ramrod my, I got my

00:38:54:07 –> 00:38:55:12
Blue card safety.

00:38:55:18 –> 00:38:56:18
Yeah. My hunter safety.

00:38:57:28 –> 00:39:00:14
First year we applied you you drew that and looked

00:39:00:14 –> 00:39:22:28
Out. Yeah, I did. And that was, we went scouted for it and we went and, you know, we found a really nice one, da da dah. And I’m actually a pretty good shot, would you say? Yeah. Oh yeah. Like a, I’m pretty good shot ’cause I don’t get worked up. Yeah. What do you guys call it? Bug fever or whatever where you get worked up. Don’t get worked up. I just don’t do it. I’m just a di I just a one shot. But, but I shot it and it doesn’t die right away. She

00:39:22:28 –> 00:39:24:12
Didn’t realize that when you kill stuff,

00:39:24:25 –> 00:39:28:26
I thought if I shot it cleanly, it would just drop like in the movies. Drop dead, you’re dead. Never

00:39:29:00 –> 00:39:30:01
Quiver. Never even quiver.

00:39:30:08 –> 00:39:41:28
Oh. And this thing was flopping and I’m bawling my eyes out. Never intentionally killed anything in my life. Oh. I was just bawling and bawling and finally after it’s just

00:39:41:28 –> 00:39:48:29
Kicking and thrashing. You know, they’re used to running 55 miles an hour, so the brain’s telling ’em to do that and their body can’t get upright and do that. So that’s all it’s doing.

00:39:49:02 –> 00:39:59:14
Yes. So anyway, and so I walk over to it and it stinks to high heaven, their antelope, it was disgusting and we’re so poor, you know, at the time we were still, I was like,

00:39:59:14 –> 00:40:00:10
We’re eating. I’m like, ah,

00:40:01:08 –> 00:40:16:17
How do you even eat this kind of meat? I mean that I cook hamburger helper with Dear Meat, you know, and my family hamburger helper, Jenna. I mean, we were all about, don’t worry about that. Like, when you’re so poor, you’re just going to eat whatever you got. And yes, this meat is premium priced because Adam would say, oh, we’re, you know, we’re providing meat for the family.

00:40:17:29 –> 00:40:27:29
Remember the old Jeff Foxworthy breakdown of, I’m giving you the most costly food on the planet, or $500 a pound. Becky, why don’t you appreciate?

00:40:28:09 –> 00:40:30:02
And Becky’s saying, I’d rather have the cheap

00:40:30:02 –> 00:40:30:29
Lobster. That’s right.

00:40:31:26 –> 00:40:33:13
And we’re an idiot for paying five

00:40:33:22 –> 00:41:05:28
Pound for this stuff. That’s, that’s, oh gosh. Oh, just, but I thought, you know, I’ll get used to it. We’ll, we’ll be fine, but I hope I’ll never get used to it. I never will. I don’t care. I can’t eat that stuff. So our freezer’s filled with every wild creature known to mankind. And and you have to understand the family I came from, you know, the, the world I came from, they open our freezer and there’s like dead skulls in there and there’s blood on our floor from doing like carving crap up. And one time Adam brought through our house a jar of like the stuff that you let rot so you can go and catch bobcat,

00:41:05:28 –> 00:41:07:10
Bobcat, bobcat, bobcat.

00:41:07:15 –> 00:41:13:11
Like bread, like the, like a jar of like yellow feces, whatever. I,

00:41:13:28 –> 00:41:16:12
I just, all I said is don’t let this spill.

00:41:16:23 –> 00:41:18:07
I said, how dare you bring to

00:41:18:07 –> 00:41:33:13
My house, don’t spill house, don’t spill this in the house. It was how dare it was frozen in the garage and I needed unthaw so it didn’t have enough like fish oil or whatever in it to Oh my, to keep it from freezing. I’m like, oh, this needs to unthaw, but don’t let this spill. Oh

00:41:33:13 –> 00:42:16:02
My gosh. So it was like, it’s a little bit like you have to let go. That that was one that, that’s one solid bit of advice I’d give anybody walking into this is I, I I would say I am uptight. Okay. I am, I’m a little uptight about my home or you know, just your vehicle Decor. Decor, like dead animals on my wall and Yes. And all of this stuff. You let go, let go. I let him put some animals on the main floor, you know, fine. You know, if there’s blood, just clean it up. Becky. Just don’t co complain when people come over because that’s so, like, that’s so Jed Clampett, you know, there’s like trails of blood and bits of hair and, you know what I mean? It’s just like

00:42:17:00 –> 00:42:19:17
Trail of tears. It’s a trail of tears.

00:42:20:07 –> 00:42:25:01
It’s just like, okay, give let go, let go, let go. It’s his love that was

00:42:25:02 –> 00:42:26:06
Got a warm house. A wonderful bed.

00:42:26:15 –> 00:42:41:20
That’s right. And, and just schools everywhere and everything just let go. So that’s probably one of the, one of the many learning points marrying a hunter like Adam is. It was, it was a very, that was a tr that was a tough transition. Yes. You know, that

00:42:41:20 –> 00:42:50:12
Really was. Well Jana, we had a good friend of mine and his wife went in, talked to Jana and went in on her on how she doesn’t get enough gifts. Oh,

00:42:50:12 –> 00:42:51:04
Gifts I have

00:42:51:04 –> 00:42:57:17
Had for me to go out hunting. And so she’s like, you don’t understand. You don’t get new furniture. What? So go ahead. Yeah.

00:42:57:19 –> 00:43:16:19
So, well, I’ve had a lot of women say, how do you let him hunt so much? Why do you let him hunt so much and you make the rest of us look bad? And I have to say like, it’s our livelihood. It’s not like we have, you know, a full-time job that pays the bills and then he’s hunting recreationally all the time, although it’s a fine line. And he’s definitely over the line. Yes. A hundred percent of the time.

00:43:16:23 –> 00:43:17:05
Well, and

00:43:17:05 –> 00:43:25:04
Sometimes I have to like, we walk in the front door and there’s all the big deer staring at you. Right? Yeah. Right. And I’m like, those deer built the house anyway.

00:43:25:12 –> 00:43:27:26
They built the house. Okay. It’s taken a lot of years for him to be able.

00:43:28:12 –> 00:43:31:00
Correct, correct. Yes. Tell yourself what you

00:43:31:00 –> 00:43:42:25
Need to, but we’re gonna, we we go with it because it makes us all feel better. Yeah. But so this particular friend, and I’ve had lots of, lots of women with opinions about it. But this particular friend, I mean, she called me up and she was her, her husband.

00:43:42:25 –> 00:43:44:00
You make life hard on

00:43:44:00 –> 00:43:44:24
Me. Her husband and my husband

00:43:45:06 –> 00:43:48:00
We’re good friends, would analyze what Jasons and we wanted to hunt together. Getting away his sister

00:43:48:00 –> 00:44:15:19
Generally. She called me up one day and she’s like, do you know how hard you’re making this on the rest of us? Like, why do you let him hunt that like, like you do? Why do you let him go all the time and what are you getting out of it? And I said, well, he does it for a living. It’s not like, you know, your husband has a different job and mine does it for a living. Well, well, when my husband goes it’s 50 50. If he takes five days when he gets home, he’s home with the kids and I take five days and if he spends $750 on a tag, well I spend seven $50 on furniture. You’re not getting enough outta this. Like, you, you could definitely be,

00:44:16:07 –> 00:44:21:17
I’m like, and I’m like, he is not my friend anymore and you are not my friend anymore. Well,

00:44:23:04 –> 00:44:47:13
And in her situation there has to be some give and take. He has a full-time job and there should be more give and take In our situation, it was our livelihood. And although Jason definitely trespassed way past the point of way, the blending, making a livelihood. Yeah. It was still, it was still part of what we did for a living. It was still part of our life. And I’ve never been a 50 50 kind of girl. I don’t think that any marriage is gonna function well if you just keep on 50 50,

00:44:48:14 –> 00:44:48:28
You’re a

00:44:48:28 –> 00:44:53:25
Bean. If you can’t. No, you can’t. You’ve gotta have, you’ve gotta have a lot of compassion. And you gotta, you gotta, same

00:44:53:25 –> 00:44:58:20
Thing with partners in business work. If you’re, if you’re bean count, you’re gonna be count yourself right out of a partnership.

00:44:58:20 –> 00:45:07:13
That’s right. It only hurts you. That’s what I feel like you sit there and make. Now see, that’s another I used to write down all the time he was gone. ’cause I’m like, I was gonna be that person.

00:45:07:13 –> 00:45:08:08
Well, Jenna writes, slow down.

00:45:08:23 –> 00:45:09:06
We had,

00:45:09:14 –> 00:45:09:20

00:45:09:20 –> 00:45:11:18
We really going there? No, we can go there. But

00:45:12:01 –> 00:45:34:14
We each had, we can breeze over this quickly. If I might interject this. We, we will just use the word quotas, but they, in our minds, they were kind of rough, rough estimates of this is kind of what I think I’ll need to go hunt for the year to, to do what I want to do and all that. And, and they were interpreted as the 10 commandments. Okay. Like, do not go one half day over that. Yes. That’s how. Okay.

00:45:34:14 –> 00:45:34:24
But Adam,

00:45:35:22 –> 00:45:36:02

00:45:36:02 –> 00:45:41:01
On, early on, Adam, when you more than double it, that’s a poor estimate. Correct.

00:45:41:08 –> 00:45:41:17
But we

00:45:41:17 –> 00:45:45:10
Talked, Janet and I talked about 90 days. I don’t know what you guys talked about. Well

00:45:45:25 –> 00:45:54:04
It was also when the, when Becky probably got used or heard the word first once in a lifetime.

00:45:54:28 –> 00:45:57:12
Oh, Jenna hates that word.

00:45:57:22 –> 00:46:04:08
I hate that is the most ridiculous phrase ever written because it is absolutely a moot misnomer. The minute you

00:46:04:13 –> 00:46:06:06
Say I have to go, I’ll never be able to experience

00:46:06:06 –> 00:46:46:06
Again. That’s right. This is a once in lifetime hunt. Becky, I’ve got to go. I, this is once in a lifetime. And the first 10 or 11 times I believed it, you know, I was like, oh, okay. You know, this is just like, you’re gonna get the elk and it’ll be a done deal and we’ll never elk hunt again. And we’re done with elk hunting like we’ve got, we’ve achieved the high, you know, and holy state, no, it’s the next, it’s the next. And then I started wising up. ’cause the naive word is really like the first 10 years of our marriage, I would say just because this is like not my world. I don’t understand. So I I I would just kind of take it for granted that he was, he meant what he said and he and it, he no way. I mean, once in a lifetime, once time

00:46:46:07 –> 00:46:47:23
Is the biggest lie on Hunter temple.

00:46:48:05 –> 00:46:48:18

00:46:48:18 –> 00:46:50:14
Correct. I might as well just say, I’d like to go hunting today.

00:46:51:10 –> 00:46:52:24
And there you go. Just desert.

00:46:52:27 –> 00:46:55:17
Accept it. And I would like to go hunting today if you would allow it. And

00:46:56:05 –> 00:47:02:22
The, the bitterness arises because your left carrying all, that’s what it felt

00:47:02:22 –> 00:47:04:14
Like. Yeah. So you get into the phase of having kids

00:47:04:21 –> 00:47:12:02
Too. Well, well it’s like, it’s a once in a lifetime. Enormous expense. Yes. Plus a once in a lifetime. Your home taking care of h house and home and family

00:47:12:18 –> 00:47:14:13
Again, the most expensive meat going to mass

00:47:14:21 –> 00:47:20:22
You. And, and then once the once in a lifetime is over, they bring the mess home to you. Yeah. Here you go. I’m done with the fun part.

00:47:21:26 –> 00:47:24:16
Here’s my trailer, here’s my gear. Good. Do good, do

00:47:24:16 –> 00:47:27:24
Good things. That’s right. I gotta go to work now. That’s right. I mean, I’ve been at work, but I gotta go to work.

00:47:31:20 –> 00:47:32:17
It’s true. Those

00:47:32:17 –> 00:47:34:23
Are true statements. Those are true statements.

00:47:35:01 –> 00:47:44:16
And the thing is, like, to Jana’s point, I’ve had women and men come up to me and give me a really hard time. How come you let Adam and you know what it is? You know what the answer is. My

00:47:44:17 –> 00:47:45:01
Are not our friends.

00:47:45:12 –> 00:47:49:26
Some of my guides. No way. We’ll go to Becky and say that. Fire them on

00:47:49:26 –> 00:47:49:29

00:47:49:29 –> 00:47:54:02
Smile. So what I, what the thing, what I reply is I have no choice.

00:47:54:19 –> 00:47:55:22
What does that mean? What

00:47:55:22 –> 00:48:05:07
That means is that there, do you really think I could keep you from going if you’re gonna go Absolutely not a homecoming dance Wouldn’t do it.

00:48:06:15 –> 00:48:09:11
Okay. So let’s talk about the children and all the wonderful experiences

00:48:09:14 –> 00:48:10:25
Of hunting daddy

00:48:10:25 –> 00:48:11:29
Bonding with daughters.

00:48:12:23 –> 00:48:14:22
No, I’m gonna finish my point.

00:48:16:13 –> 00:48:17:02
And then we’re,

00:48:17:02 –> 00:48:40:10
Because I think this is an important narrative in being married to a, a high, a world class hunter and guide is you, you, you must accept that. There, there are a few things that will keep them home and, and happy. I’m thinking about the time I was pregnant with my first child. Like I’m, first, first It was Kaylee. Was that early?

00:48:40:13 –> 00:48:40:22

00:48:40:25 –> 00:48:45:08
It was. I mean this is early on. It was kind of those flags. You look back and go, okay, that was, that

00:48:45:08 –> 00:48:46:06
Was a

00:48:46:07 –> 00:48:55:01
Learning point. That was huge flag. Okay. The first time my, my little sweetheart is kicking inside my stomach. Like it’s the first. And I’ve never been pregnant before. I mean, I just, this is all a new

00:48:55:01 –> 00:48:56:16
Experience. You were by yourself. We’re here.

00:48:56:20 –> 00:48:56:25
Somebody was

00:48:56:25 –> 00:48:58:11
Doing a grouse count. No, no, no,

00:48:58:25 –> 00:49:21:17
No, no. It’s better than that. Adam was in the other room. Like there was two rooms where we lived. We were in a, you know, little student housing thing and, and the baby’s kicking and he’s on the phone. And this is Adam’s language. Yeah. I saw some shooter and it was a dandy and did like all this kinda like he’s into it. You know, shooters and Danis. I’ve heard those words. Like I just think those are the weirdest words. Danby, I

00:49:21:17 –> 00:49:23:16
Don’t use that word anymore. Dandy. That was in my younger days.

00:49:23:17 –> 00:49:25:11
That’s weird. 1996. Weird. Yeah.

00:49:25:11 –> 00:49:29:05
Have you ever, he’s, have you ever read that in the saw one of my unit descriptions

00:49:29:05 –> 00:49:38:23
I saw shoot on this unit and it was a dandy and and I said, Adam, Adam, come in here. Feel your feel this baby kicking, feel your daughter feel, feel this baby kicking. And he blew me off.

00:49:39:19 –> 00:49:39:25

00:49:40:09 –> 00:50:04:13
He did not come in to feel the baby kick. And then about a half an hour later, after he is done talking about this shooter that was a dandy comes into the room and I’m so upset. I’m like, the baby was kicking and it was our first time is kicking and you missed it. But, but when it comes to this, there is a, there is a, there is no rational or reasoning that’s going to

00:50:04:20 –> 00:50:12:13
Not our fault. That’s what you’re saying. It’s not our fault. What you’re saying, what you’re saying is that the only thing stronger than love is addiction. Okay.

00:50:13:13 –> 00:50:21:01
And I’ve, I’ve often used in on our defense and I’m, ’cause I think I have to to

00:50:21:01 –> 00:50:23:28
Our defense because I can’t think of anything. I can’t think of anything.

00:50:23:28 –> 00:50:38:10
I have to because I sound like the worst dad ever that didn’t have an interest in a kicking first child. I, I, I know what everybody’s thinking, but I probably couldn’t hear ’cause I was, you know, at a brick cell phone to my ear and I couldn’t hear what she was trying to do. Becky, I

00:50:39:06 –> 00:50:57:17
Have a disgruntled landowner. Were to Wouldn’t have to. That’s right. If they were to analyze the hunter brain, there’s certain things that kick off those serotonins. Correct. Like a new waterhole. Correct. Oh hey I found a new waterhole. Oh, whoa. Okay, well I’m gonna be a little late tonight getting home. Okay. Like, you want dinner at eight? No

00:50:58:22 –> 00:50:59:25
Midnight’s fine. Like,

00:51:00:12 –> 00:51:09:05
Yeah, maybe don’t worry about maybe midnight or two. But hey, don’t worry about me unless I don’t come home by four tomorrow. You know that sort of Right Janet? Oh, I’m

00:51:09:05 –> 00:51:10:08
So there any, okay,

00:51:10:10 –> 00:51:19:00
So back before there was cell phones, how many times did you hear that? Don’t worry about me. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Until, until I, you know, I’m 24 hours late, so. Okay. So our first wedding truck

00:51:19:10 –> 00:51:20:00
Was a sore spot.

00:51:20:21 –> 00:51:28:05
So, so in our defense to some extent and what you’re, I think what you’re trying to say, if I can put words in your mouth.

00:51:28:17 –> 00:51:31:25
Alright, good luck. Please try. Yeah, go ahead. Is

00:51:32:20 –> 00:51:35:04
We don’t have many other habits

00:51:35:25 –> 00:51:37:07
Or hobbies or hobbies or

00:51:37:12 –> 00:51:37:17

00:51:37:21 –> 00:51:38:00
He wants

00:51:38:00 –> 00:51:39:20
To avoid the addiction words. Yes.

00:51:40:19 –> 00:51:42:10
That has a negative connotation.

00:51:42:14 –> 00:51:46:04
Well, ’cause then we gotta go to the 12 step program. Yes. And I don’t wanna go there.

00:51:46:14 –> 00:52:13:19
So I just, we, we, we have more. I, I mean I like to do sports and I’ve given up a lot of those. ’cause mainly I don’t wanna blow my knee or ankle out, so I can’t hunt. That’s why I’ve given up. But I’ve given up, you know, I do golf because you know, you can do safe. Not gonna eat golf, can, you know, you can golf and we live near the golf course and so you’re gonna do that. So, but, but other than that there’s not, there’s a lot worse habits to have in life than I’ve

00:52:13:19 –> 00:52:20:05
Heard this one before too. So we don’t, we don’t go drinking at night. Or maybe we don’t gamble. We don’t have gambling. Have

00:52:20:12 –> 00:52:22:16
You Don’t shoot heroin. There’s a plus. There’s a plus.

00:52:22:17 –> 00:52:23:28
Yeah. That’s a plus. Becky.

00:52:24:00 –> 00:52:26:14
It’s a lot worse habits in life than honey. I’ve said that.

00:52:26:14 –> 00:52:28:05
I mean, they’re struggling to come up with them, but they’re right.

00:52:29:03 –> 00:52:33:14
All I know is you two women have it. Good. That’s all I know. Now, here we go to the kids.

00:52:35:03 –> 00:52:35:24
Yes. The kids

00:52:35:27 –> 00:52:38:20
And family memories and all of these other great things that, hunting is

00:52:38:28 –> 00:52:46:07
One of my favorite. One of my favorite is when you call the school for the third time in the same week to explain that your child is still sick.

00:52:49:15 –> 00:52:51:22
So she’s like, really Sean? Now what

00:52:51:22 –> 00:52:53:22
Is, how many days did you say he was gonna hunt with you?

00:52:54:23 –> 00:53:03:05
It’s day to day. It’s day to day. He, he, he’s, he’s on the edge of consciousness. I dunno. I’ll bring him back when he’s feeling better. I don’t wanna get the other kids sick.

00:53:03:20 –> 00:53:16:28
And Janice is so funny. She’ll be like, really? You think that’s necessary? Because I’ve missed a lot of school. And I’m like, well, did you watch Ashley? She’s going to school in camo. That’s a big deal. We’re gonna keep that going. Whatever it takes at all costs, right?

00:53:17:14 –> 00:53:25:12
Well, initially he was like, you can’t let her wear that to school. The girls are gonna make fun of her. And I said, I can. And she will. And she’s fine. Yeah. And she has totally been fine.

00:53:25:14 –> 00:53:25:20

00:53:25:20 –> 00:53:26:18
Yeah, she’s owned it.

00:53:26:26 –> 00:53:36:28
She owned it. She’s awesome. She’s owned it. She’s awesome. She wanted a tripod for Christmas. Guess what? We got her a tripod. Oh yeah. Happy. The best tripod money can buy for the type size of kid she is.

00:53:37:07 –> 00:54:02:14
Well, and I will, and there and there’s your, there’s a validation slip for you. It’s true. What you bring to the, to our family and the kids is invaluable. And, and I mean we, the women, we bring a certain element, I would say refinement, you know, a love of learning. At least clean the black, you know, book learning and the importance, learning of getting good grades. I mean all of that kinda stuff. Oh, that comes from you guys bring book

00:54:02:18 –> 00:54:03:24
Learning. I’ll, we’ll conce

00:54:04:03 –> 00:54:05:01
We’ll conce good

00:54:06:08 –> 00:54:06:20

00:54:06:20 –> 00:54:32:29
Like compassion. Yeah. Yes, that’s right. Morals. You values moral. You guys have morals. Okay. You guys have great morals. Have great morals. I’m just saying. I’m just saying. But the, but what I love is that, that our, what I could never bring to our family is what you do. And, and they learned outdoor skills. And frankly for me, when I went on my Adam, I, I, I drew bison on the Henry’s and that was an intense hunt. I’ve never really experienced anything

00:54:33:09 –> 00:54:46:29
Like that. Minus 15, that minus degrees. I mean, it’s a ser it’s a, I mean we had, there was one day, I’m not gonna say too much, but there was one day it fogged in like crazy and it was one of those that you, unless you knew where you’d walked, like you can’t get bearings.

00:54:47:01 –> 00:54:48:17
It freaked me out. Freaked like it freaked

00:54:48:19 –> 00:54:50:13
Out me out. And I’m like, what’s the matter? It’s

00:54:50:13 –> 00:54:53:28
Like, I felt like I was in Harry Potter land. Like I had no idea where I’m at.

00:54:53:28 –> 00:54:56:29
Like 40, 40 helped, you know, where hyped in a mile know,

00:54:57:01 –> 00:54:58:25
Like, I freaked me out. She’s cleaving

00:54:58:25 –> 00:55:00:20
Under her spouse to get her home.

00:55:00:29 –> 00:55:01:26
Yes. And I,

00:55:02:03 –> 00:55:03:18
No, no, no. I was actually, I said,

00:55:03:18 –> 00:55:05:01
Hold on darling, I’ll get you back.

00:55:05:06 –> 00:55:18:23
Okay. No darling. No, no, no, no. The truth was night shining Becky. The truth was, I was really mad at Adam for taking me way back in there. I’m like, Adam, how could you bring me out here to nowhere where I can’t even see out? So of course I was mad at ’em. Poor guy. Because I

00:55:18:23 –> 00:55:29:28
Was like, well, partially they were, she had a cow tag, negative 10 degrees. And we stacked this, we stacked this herd of bison. There’s like 11 of ’em get up there and every one of ’em is a bull. Every one of ’em. Oh, she got a cow tag. We’re at 200 yards and I am just

00:55:30:00 –> 00:55:31:29
Some have a collar or whatever. And I’m

00:55:32:03 –> 00:55:36:17
Just like, she’s like, that one’s a cow. And I’m like, how, what are you looking at to determine?

00:55:36:29 –> 00:55:37:09
I know

00:55:38:00 –> 00:56:09:22
They’re all, they’re beded down. You can’t see boy parts. They’re, I mean, and I’m looking at heads. I know I’m looking at, and I know their horns are this big around, they’re giant, they’re all bulls. And I’m at 200 yards and I’m like, we can’t shoot. We’re done here. We’re backing outta here. And she’s like, I’m not leaving here without killing one of them. And I’m like, there’s not a cow you don’t understand. She’s like, look again. And I’m like, there’s not a cow. And then it, then it’s walking out. It’s this glue, you know, she’s, she’s already mad and you can’t see 20 yards in front of you. And I’m like, that’s terrifying. Just follow me and we’ll get to the truck. That’s

00:56:09:22 –> 00:56:14:28
Right. So finally we did find one. So we find one and it’s, and it’s at 300 yards.

00:56:14:28 –> 00:56:17:26
Three seven. Oh, let’s, let’s tell that story. Let’s just go to the one you shot.

00:56:18:14 –> 00:56:19:26
Yeah, let’s do that. That’s what I said.

00:56:19:26 –> 00:56:23:14
Oh, that’s what I’m talking about. Okay, good, good, good. I thought you were saying something else. Yeah, keep, keep, keep going.

00:56:24:00 –> 00:56:24:18
I don’t know what you’re talking,

00:56:24:20 –> 00:56:26:25
All I know is you came home with no fenders on the four wheeler because

00:56:26:28 –> 00:56:41:02
It was so cold. Well, what the point I was trying to make was, so there it is. And I’ve got it in my sight and everything. And Adam’s talking in my ear. And you know what for I, I don’t know if this is true for you ladies out there, whatever, but for me it’s like giving birth to shoot something.

00:56:43:07 –> 00:56:44:16
I’d like to hear this comparison.

00:56:44:20 –> 00:56:45:05
No way.

00:56:45:18 –> 00:57:03:29
Okay. What it is is you have to concentrate. It’s a big freaking deal. So shut up everyone and let me focus on what I gotta do. I’m gonna crush this crowd. Like, and I’m, and I’m not, and I’ve gotta stay focused. And so here’s Adam in my ear. Are you sure? It’s about don’t shut the one with the, the the collar, blah blah. I’m like, shut up.

00:57:04:21 –> 00:57:07:12
My dad’s there and he’s just slinking into the background. Like, I’m

00:57:07:12 –> 00:57:09:02
Like, I’m telling them to shut up back there too.

00:57:09:24 –> 00:57:10:02

00:57:10:02 –> 00:57:12:11
Like got a new, we couple here to just crushing

00:57:12:11 –> 00:57:14:10
Each other. He’s just like, oh, I’m not getting in middle.

00:57:14:15 –> 00:57:26:08
Well anyway, so, so I’m concentrating. So anyway, got her done, went down there. I got to skin the thing myself. Yeah. It’s like cut through saran wrap. It’s like you pull that thing up and slice, slice. It’s

00:57:26:08 –> 00:57:29:10
Like a minus 15. We build a bonfire. Awesome. It was awesome.

00:57:29:16 –> 00:57:46:07
Liked it. Yeah. And I thought, you know what, this is a tiny part of, of all that Adam brings to our lives that I would never have otherwise. And I love that feeling of confidence that I know how to shoot, I know how to feel, dress an animal. I know how to watch for the animals. I know I have life. You’re more

00:57:46:07 –> 00:57:46:29
Self relied.

00:57:47:07 –> 00:57:49:02
You feel like I love that. Yes. I love that.

00:57:49:08 –> 00:57:51:16
Yes. And Jana likes that too, right? Oh,

00:57:51:16 –> 00:57:51:20
I do.

00:57:53:01 –> 00:57:53:07

00:57:53:20 –> 00:57:58:14
Probably came with that though. She probably grew up in where she already had those skills where I

00:57:58:14 –> 00:58:09:22
Just butchered our own animals on the farm. But, but what he brings that I don’t bring is that one-on-one with your kids doing an activity that’s that’s really focused. Like he gets a lot of one-on-one time with the kids. He gets a lot of chuck

00:58:09:22 –> 00:58:11:20
Time especially. And I petted a wild horse one day. Yeah.

00:58:12:21 –> 00:58:33:19
They get really That’s cool. Awesome experiences with him and they’re, they’re good memories that the kids will never forget. And I think this year what we have, okay, we have four kids. Yeah. And all of them killed one animal and some of them killed. Two of them killed was Sean killed three, Sean do three. Sean killed three, Colton killed two. So I mean, our freezers were overloaded. I gave, I gave animals away this year. Well there’s

00:58:33:19 –> 00:58:34:04
People that

00:58:34:04 –> 00:58:51:17
Want it, but every kid, every kid gets to go have that one-on-one time with dad and a great experience. And it’s a good time for him to talk with ’em and get up, you know, get into their lives a little bit. And they love it. They love it. Yeah. I mean there’s not one of them that’s like, nah, I think I’d rather go to school than go out with dad. You know, I mean they all, well

00:58:51:17 –> 00:59:10:17
Even I’ll, I’ll be taking one of the kids like to check truck cameras or to do whatever and, and all of a sudden I don’t even think anything about it. You know, you don’t have enough room in the truck or whatever for everybody. And all of a sudden I hear somebody’s crying, crying off in the corner and I’m like, it just breaks your heart. You know? And so you’re like, oh man, I’ll take you time. And we’re trying to keep track.

00:59:10:19 –> 00:59:12:05
Oh she feels so bad when she doesn’t get to go.

00:59:12:21 –> 00:59:18:19
But Jenna, Jenna doesn’t have a ton of hunting experiences but she’s got a lot of points. No,

00:59:18:26 –> 00:59:20:13
She, let’s

00:59:20:13 –> 00:59:35:24
Talk about that. The application Jan. Well what happened is, so Janna and I, Janna’s always wanted to hunt. She’s been on some of the hunts with me. She’s been on Whiskey mountain up there that was fun on a sheep punt up in Wyoming. She’s experienced a lot of different things. But all the well never been a

00:59:35:24 –> 00:59:36:18
Shooter. Never

00:59:36:25 –> 00:59:41:11
All the wild. And not that she doesn’t want to, you just raising kids, you gotta can’t take ’em all with you. So,

00:59:41:26 –> 01:00:24:02
Well, when we were first married, I taught school before I went back and got a nursing degree. I was a school teacher. And so of course that’s a bad time of year for hunting. Oh yeah. So I didn’t hunt then. And we were four years married when we had our first child. And then I quit working and just was home. But we had four kids and just over six years. So I always had a baby. I never felt like I could leave him. I didn’t live close to my parents where I felt like I could leave him with my mom. And so I never hunted. And then when my baby was two, I went back to school and got a nursing degree. So I was way busy and at the same time Jason was doing the ridge for TV show. That was the only years I counted the days he was gone. And it’s because literally I was like, your children need to recognize you. Yeah. And how many so you should know. Do you

01:00:24:08 –> 01:00:24:24
Remember, do

01:00:24:24 –> 01:00:34:18
You remember 176 days that he didn’t sleep at home? If he came home and slept there? I didn’t count it 176 days. He didn’t sleep at home in one year. I was just like, you could

01:00:34:18 –> 01:00:38:05
Lose track really easy when you’re counting to 1 76. I don’t know that

01:00:38:05 –> 01:00:42:26
That was, well I marked it on a calendar full and no I mark, I printed out months of the calendar. Jason,

01:00:42:28 –> 01:00:44:05
She’s sure marked she’s

01:00:44:08 –> 01:00:53:10
Positive because, not because that’s what I’m, I care that he’s hunting but because I care that he’s not having interactions with his children. Well I’m like this is not a family life. Like this isn’t, I’m pretty

01:00:53:10 –> 01:00:55:02
Sure I’ve never approach, this is taking us

01:00:55:13 –> 01:00:56:14
One 70. We need to go if we

01:00:57:01 –> 01:00:58:01
Continue in this or 50

01:00:58:07 –> 01:01:40:29
Fashion. So for two years I did count and yes, he was gone a 10. But it was out of necessity at that point. Like we were, things had shooken up in our professional life at that time. We were kind of on a new track. I was in school full-time, which was really hard with four little kids all under the age of 12. And a husband that was gone 176 days of the year. Yeah. Tough times. And so I just, I wanted him to be conscious. Let’s move on. At the time he was gone. And so anyway, so where we were going with that is that once I finished school, my kids were old enough to hunt. Yeah. And he was still providing a living hunting. So it was, it’s been like, do we do, do I hunt or do we take that time and let the kids hunt’s? That’s kind of where we’re at when he has extra time and we’ve decided that the kids are only with us for so long. Like our oldest is gonna be, is gonna win

01:01:41:05 –> 01:01:41:24
A month. He’s, he right.

01:01:42:03 –> 01:01:47:06
He’s gonna leave in a month. He’s gonna go on a mission February 6th. He leaves our home. That’s, so we wanted,

01:01:47:09 –> 01:01:49:04
Jenna continues to gain points, 20

01:01:49:04 –> 01:01:50:07
Plus points across

01:01:50:07 –> 01:01:50:12
The west.

01:01:50:23 –> 01:01:52:02
Keep kids, the kids are hunting. So

01:01:52:16 –> 01:01:58:07
You know what, if you were to ask me how many points I have for anything anywhere, I would have absolutely

01:01:58:11 –> 01:01:58:20
No idea.

01:01:58:23 –> 01:02:02:08
But you have a lot. Trust me. You have a lot. Adam knows which task you’re gonna help him.

01:02:02:10 –> 01:02:08:22
Lemme tell you. I was gonna say the reason you have a lot is because when he applies dual with you, he can turn your tack back and he gets

01:02:08:22 –> 01:02:11:12
To keep his Oh, I see. Okay.

01:02:11:21 –> 01:02:16:01
So you’re gonna help the kids draw their or Yeah. Mentor it to the kids. Perhaps

01:02:16:08 –> 01:02:19:07
There’s the method behind the madness, Becky. Okay. Thank you.

01:02:19:24 –> 01:02:21:12
I appreciate that’s a nugget of

01:02:21:12 –> 01:02:24:12
Knowledge, but it’s, it’s another, it’s another investment. Okay. That’s right.

01:02:24:26 –> 01:02:35:17
Into, into your hunting future there. Becky. Speaking of applications, because Becky had Becky, we probably didn’t have quite as many as Janet. ’cause Janet probably had a hunter safety card from the start. Yes he

01:02:35:17 –> 01:02:35:25
Did. She

01:02:35:25 –> 01:02:55:29
Did. Becky was, I dunno, three, four years into our marriage she got it. And then I started applying around and she’s got a lot of points. I think I, I’m certain a hundred percent. ’cause we’ve talked about it. Yeah. You, you both can draw any deer tag in the state of Utah right now. Yes. Except for probably Henry’s. I mean you guys have anything else? 19 to 21 points. Both of you. Yes. And so that may be news to you or not, but I’m just announcing it right there on the podcast.

01:02:56:17 –> 01:02:57:13
Who knew? Okay.

01:02:57:13 –> 01:02:57:23

01:02:57:29 –> 01:02:58:25
But where I’m going is this

01:02:59:03 –> 01:03:03:07
Another fogged in enjoyable concert. It’s coming soon,

01:03:03:10 –> 01:03:25:29
But, but let’s talk a little bit. ’cause it is kind of fun during the early years, not to back up too far, but what was, we were applying for hunts. There’s a term Becky would use often in our marriage because when you’re broke, like everybody usually is. Yes. You’re broke. Oh yeah. And you’re, we’re wanting to apply for eight to 10 states. Right. Money, the credit cards. Becky called it free

01:03:25:29 –> 01:03:26:04

01:03:26:09 –> 01:03:50:01
You, you remember the price is Right Game where there’s like three or four coconuts on the table. It’s like the shell game. You remember that? And you had to pick which, which remember where it was all, do you remember using that phrase? It, it’s like the shell game and like, shit, see the something on the credit card or leave our checking account. And she’s like, what’s this? And I’m like, oh, don’t worry, don’t worry, don’t worry. Come it’s, I’m gonna get it back. And

01:03:50:12 –> 01:04:04:05
Okay. And this is at a time when we were so poor that sometimes we ate SpaghettiOs for breakfast and sometimes I’d go to work, sometimes I’d go to work at, we’d be out of toilet paper. And so when I’d go to work in the morning at the radio station in Logan would you would take the extra call

01:04:04:12 –> 01:04:05:08
From the radio station.

01:04:06:24 –> 01:04:08:19
I mean we are that poor.

01:04:08:19 –> 01:04:12:18
Hopefully the statue of limitations on theft and neither’s all over by now. But anyway.

01:04:12:25 –> 01:04:22:13
Well I’ve got I’ve got one of those stories for you. Okay. So we were poor too, like dirt poor. And I was working a little bit and he was working a little bit and well, we were all working a lot, but we weren’t making any,

01:04:22:16 –> 01:04:26:00
The traditional wasn’t working quite right because I couldn’t provide enough for us.

01:04:27:03 –> 01:04:28:02
Yeah. We had guess

01:04:28:23 –> 01:04:29:06
We had,

01:04:29:16 –> 01:04:30:24
I changed a couple diapers too. Okay.

01:04:30:24 –> 01:04:40:02
We had a couple of, a couple of babies. Okay. My first two are 18 months apart. Oh wow. We had a couple of babies and so we were going through a lot of Pampers. Oh yeah. Yeah. That’s expensive. Yeah.

01:04:40:14 –> 01:04:43:17
Well Jana Jana was back in the day of cloth diapers when changed.

01:04:43:17 –> 01:04:50:19
Came in a washing machine, changed my, I did change cloth diapers for, for my siblings when I was, I I was the oldest daughter. I changed a lot diapers.

01:04:50:28 –> 01:04:52:11
My mom did cloth Mom were school together and

01:04:52:16 –> 01:04:57:10
She had to be. So I did not do cloth with my own children. I did Pampers. Yeah. Well I did the off knock, knock off

01:04:57:10 –> 01:04:59:01
With Pampers, the Chi. Yeah, sure. Walmart version. Yeah.

01:04:59:05 –> 01:05:13:14
But so Jason’s applying for tags and hunting his guts out. And he says to me one day he looks at the Pampers bill and he’s like, dang, those are expensive. And I said, yeah, they are expensive. We’ve got two kids in diapers. And he says, we do,

01:05:15:17 –> 01:05:16:07
I’m sorry, I’m sorry.

01:05:16:15 –> 01:05:20:18
And he said, well maybe you should use cloth diapers. Oh,

01:05:21:19 –> 01:05:22:08
You said that.

01:05:22:25 –> 01:05:33:02
I don’t remember it at all. Yes, he did. And I said, I don’t remember that. And I said, my gosh, I do not, I recall that. And I said, yes, honey, I’ll use cloth diapers when you quit hunting.

01:05:35:04 –> 01:05:35:11

01:05:35:18 –> 01:05:40:23
That’s right. And I was dead serious. And let me just tell you, we have never talked about it again.

01:05:42:07 –> 01:05:46:00
That’s an awesome story. I never You te that

01:05:46:00 –> 01:05:46:19
Was it done?

01:05:47:00 –> 01:05:57:28
That was a scary, I don’t dunno what it happened just like that. I don’t, I can’t believe that was teed up. That was a, that was teed up for her perfectly. That’s a danger zone statement is what that

01:05:58:11 –> 01:06:05:20
I I’m thinking about a time when Kaylee turned, Kaylee turned five. She turned five. This is a good one. Oh yeah. This is good

01:06:06:13 –> 01:06:07:20
Trap. Is this a trapping story?

01:06:08:08 –> 01:06:09:04
No, that

01:06:09:04 –> 01:06:09:24
Was a good one. Well,

01:06:09:24 –> 01:06:17:07
That was another thing. She got her foot caught in a bear trap, but they just a bobcat trap. A bob. Oh. Just a bobcat trap. But they didn’t tell mom, but that’s another story.

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She was five or six. Let’s just keep this between us. She was, she was

01:06:21:08 –> 01:06:21:23

01:06:21:26 –> 01:06:22:02

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She had rubber boots, snow boots on it couldn’t hurt’s, whatever.

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01:06:26:12 –> 01:06:26:25
Whatever. Here’s a mountain de

01:06:27:07 –> 01:06:39:10
Whatever. Don’t tell mom us. Don’t tell mom Kaylee. Anyway, so she turns five and I remember we, and we were, we were still very poor because he was a wildlife biologist at the time. And I mean, we just With a master’s degree. Yeah. With a master’s degree. And it basically meant nothing. Got health insurance, nothing

01:06:39:23 –> 01:06:40:01

01:06:40:01 –> 01:06:40:16
The in that

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Regard. Yeah. We paid for the ba all the babies were paid for.

01:06:42:28 –> 01:06:59:02
So I, I saved up a little bit and I spent $65. I remember I bought a Barbie camera and I, I mean it was a lot of money for us to spend on gifts then. I mean, $65 was a lot. And, and Kaylee opened it. She loved it. And afterward Adam’s like, that was way too much to spend.

01:06:59:16 –> 01:07:01:26
I said that. Yes, you did. That doesn’t sound right.

01:07:02:05 –> 01:07:05:02
Okay. And I said, Adam, no, geez. No, no, no.

01:07:05:10 –> 01:07:11:04
Was this a, what was this, was this just a, you saw, was this like a, a Barbie stuff? Was this like a tooth fairy present? No. Or what we’re talking about?

01:07:11:04 –> 01:07:15:11
It was her birthday. This was her birthday care. It might have

01:07:16:04 –> 01:07:29:02
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. So it might have been, so all he saw was all this Barbie stuff, you know, and, and he was like, gosh, that’s a lot to spin on that. And I said, true, that $200 you just spent on that gun last week, that was a lot to spend as well.

01:07:30:05 –> 01:07:31:25
Oh, that’s why

01:07:31:25 –> 01:07:32:18
You buy him a cash. I’m

01:07:32:18 –> 01:07:33:29
Saying you’re lucky it was only a $200

01:07:33:29 –> 01:07:35:10
Gun. Well, that’s it. It was, yeah.

01:07:35:15 –> 01:07:38:18
I’m, I’m thinking Yeah, it might’ve been just a buck mark pistol for 200 bucks.

01:07:38:18 –> 01:07:43:20
And I was like, I might’ve thrown in a few words that weren’t nice when I said that phrase back. Like,

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I don’t

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Remember you selfish.

01:07:45:22 –> 01:07:47:16
You know, I don’t remember some of these stories.

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But, but, but it was part, it

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Didn’t happen. No, I don’t think we just are

01:07:51:22 –> 01:07:51:28

01:07:51:28 –> 01:08:00:18
It up. We’re getting older. And so We’ll, I’ll chalk it up to fuzzy memories. Yes. We’re all in our mid forties now, so. Oh, that’s, but the

01:08:00:18 –> 01:08:02:17
Gifts haven’t changed for

01:08:02:17 –> 01:08:03:25
That. So moving, so

01:08:04:03 –> 01:08:04:12

01:08:04:12 –> 01:08:05:13
Oh, that’s true. We could talk

01:08:05:13 –> 01:08:16:19
About holidays, we could talk about holidays, gifts. Why would gift giving, why would I do that? Why? Well, in our home, I don’t think we’ve ever had a Christmas since the kids were four.

01:08:16:19 –> 01:08:17:14
There’s this going

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That somebody didn’t get a gun for Christmas.

01:08:19:11 –> 01:08:24:11
That’s a heck of a good Christmas. That, that, that’s right. I agree. And concur a hundred

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Percent. No, guns are way too expensive for gifts. But,

01:08:28:08 –> 01:08:29:18
But they somehow always investment.

01:08:29:18 –> 01:08:30:24
They’re like an investment. Right.

01:08:31:11 –> 01:08:31:19

01:08:31:19 –> 01:08:33:23
Never lose value. That they never lose value. They don’t.

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And every kid needs to have his own arsenal before he leaves.

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Every kid needs a a rifle shotgun

01:08:39:18 –> 01:08:46:01
Muscle. Oh, 22 and a 22. 22. Oh yeah. Maybe 17. You know, a big game rifle. Coyote rifle. Yes. Both.

01:08:46:10 –> 01:08:54:22
Lemme just tell you since maybe you don’t know this yet, Becky, it doesn’t stop there. A our older boys all have all of that. And we still got guns for Christmas this year.

01:08:55:19 –> 01:08:55:28

01:08:55:28 –> 01:08:57:13
Did Heck handguns. Okay.

01:08:57:17 –> 01:09:02:01
Oh yeah. Both of our teenagers. Well, this world is getting a scarier place.

01:09:02:13 –> 01:09:07:16
And my kids nervous of lions eating him. And so Janis brothers go ahead and tell ’em 14 lions stories.

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And now he wants a piss self-defense.

01:09:10:09 –> 01:09:11:06
He won’t go. Gosh.

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He, he’s wanted one for a couple of years and we’ve said, you’re too young, you can’t have one yet.

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And we got a steal on. We afraid we got a steal.

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We did get a steal. It was

01:09:19:00 –> 01:09:19:11

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Rounds. My gosh. That came with it. Oh my gosh. Do you know how many times I’ve heard Adam say we need a gun, we need a four wheeler, we need another four wheeler. We need a side side. We need a trailer, we need another.

01:09:31:07 –> 01:09:31:17
And Becky,

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Those things generate revenue. You’ve gotta have guide equipment, you’ve gotta,

01:09:34:21 –> 01:09:37:14
It’s semi believable until you buy the third safe. Correct.

01:09:38:00 –> 01:09:45:00
Correct. And it’s like, we need this honey. Do you know what need means versus want? There is. Like we,

01:09:45:19 –> 01:09:50:26
Once again, I’m gonna utter the statement. There are worse habits than hunting.

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So That’s true. I just

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Keep going.

01:09:54:07 –> 01:09:55:25
That’s, I I believe that true.

01:09:55:26 –> 01:09:57:18
That that gets you out of a lot of

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Conversations. I’ll give you the fact that it is good family memories. I mean, what

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The best, we wouldn’t have memories without it.

01:10:03:12 –> 01:10:03:22
Christmas afternoon.

01:10:03:26 –> 01:10:05:05
We wouldn’t have a memory without

01:10:05:18 –> 01:10:10:26
Christmas. Yeah, that’s true. That’s true. Because he refuses to do anything but hunt. But,

01:10:11:19 –> 01:10:22:01
But you guys, we’ve talked about it too. Becky and I, and we didn’t do it last year, but you guys did get a boat and that’s about memories. And that’s, that is not just honey about how about that’s not just hunting related. And it was

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Nothing. No selfish reason to

01:10:23:25 –> 01:10:27:23
Yeah. You guys found it nice. No, I need a boat. Nice. A nice used boat. You know, it’s

01:10:27:23 –> 01:10:37:18
Been 21 years coming and it was a great investment. Our kids, we had more family time this summer than we’ve had in years. And our kids wanted to be there. It was awesome. It was awesome. It was awesome.

01:10:37:20 –> 01:10:38:02
And it was on the,

01:10:38:06 –> 01:10:38:17

01:10:38:17 –> 01:10:41:13
It. The west was in a drought. And I and lakes,

01:10:41:16 –> 01:10:43:02
The lakes are going down everywhere

01:10:44:02 –> 01:10:49:12
To check truck cameras every day because there’s nothing to see. Yeah. So I gathered up all the cameras and I invested all the time in the

01:10:49:12 –> 01:10:52:23
Family. And you looked on a, on the classifieds and found a good used boat. And

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You go for it. There go brownie points out the window. I thought it was sincere. No, it was

01:10:56:16 –> 01:11:01:01
Sincere. It was, it was sincere. Anyway, no, it was

01:11:01:01 –> 01:11:01:13
Great. And

01:11:01:28 –> 01:11:02:23
So let’s go back to

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Applying with credit cards. Well,

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We, bringing Adam to the city, we went and found Adam was a biologist. Oh yeah. He again, Becky. Okay. Again, all of this knowledge and experience and going out and doing all of these things in your sacrifice and Adam’s sacrifice continued. Adam became a fairly great source of knowledge and people would call him and talk to him. And, and Garth and I would always talk, there’s a guy we need to hire. There’s a guy right there that, and, and we went and we had a visit with you guys and ended up bringing him into the private sector of the hunting world. And it’s never been better. Right.

01:11:41:03 –> 01:11:44:06
We were reluctant. We were reluctant though, weren’t we even give

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Nine to five hours with office. And

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We presented that and we presented that. Here’s your paid vacation. I don’t know about no health insurance.

01:11:53:23 –> 01:11:55:24
I don’t know what we’ve got presented. But salesman, they

01:11:55:24 –> 01:11:58:10
Were sales. No, 4 0 1 ks. I, I don’t know. Anyway.

01:11:58:28 –> 01:12:00:14
But we, we took it and

01:12:00:24 –> 01:12:07:20
Well, and you’re thinking too, you had a lot more opportunities with the kids. Your kids are very musically inclined. Cedar City’s a bigger community, all

01:12:07:20 –> 01:12:20:12
Of those things. Well, I do have to say we loved living in Pengu and it was, we just built a home there. We, we loved being there. We loved being a part of that community. So it, it was a, it was a, it was a, it

01:12:20:12 –> 01:12:20:28
Was a big decision

01:12:21:02 –> 01:13:05:26
To leave that It was, it was, it was a big decision to leave that and come. But Cedar City, I’ve lived here the longest. I have a twin sister who lives here in town and Wow. I mean, and it was something I I, I won’t lie. I thought, oh, this will be more the i hours won’t be so crazy. I won’t be getting calls from upset farmers. This back to screaming in my ear, waking up my kids from their naps to tell me about they’ve got some deer in their field. This is gonna be a much more structured thing. Yes. And in some ways it is. And in some ways the structure has absolutely gone completely out the window. Yeah. I mean I, there’s sometimes somebody will say, where’s Adam? They’ll say to me, where’s Adam? I’m like, if you were to hand me a million dollars, I could not tell you where that man is. It’s, I think he’s in the western United States. I’m pretty sure he is staying in the contiguous,

01:13:06:12 –> 01:13:07:11
He’s in the lower 48.

01:13:07:17 –> 01:13:13:23
He’s in the lower 48 maybe west of the Mississippi. But he could be up in Canada. I’m not sure. West of the Mississippi. Or it could be down to Mexico. I he

01:13:13:23 –> 01:13:15:29
Does not like white tails. I know he is not back east.

01:13:16:19 –> 01:13:32:13
Okay. That’s right. Yeah. Forget the why it tells, but, but that’s, that’s part of the, that’s part of that advice, ladies, I gave you earlier about the letting go. I could, I could write it all down, but I can’t keep track of it. Then he is going back and forth. There’s people, it changes day to day anyway, every day.

01:13:32:16 –> 01:13:44:29
Yes, it does. And then, and in our, it’s not 1996 when you got married, there’s no way to communicate from the brook trains back to your, your new wife. We got in reach. We got, if something happens, I can pick up set phone and my in reach and, and it’s

01:13:45:01 –> 01:13:45:10

01:13:45:22 –> 01:13:46:17
It helped me. So last

01:13:47:07 –> 01:13:51:22
Love technology. Yeah. And they don’t forget your anniversary anymore ’cause the phone reminds them. Oh yeah. Jenna, like,

01:13:51:22 –> 01:13:52:28
Jason call from the

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And order me flowers.

01:13:54:09 –> 01:13:59:18
Jan Jenna. I did do that. But let me, let me tell you something. You forgot our anniversary.

01:14:00:11 –> 01:14:03:04
It’s true. You, we collectively forgot our anniversary and

01:14:03:04 –> 01:14:03:18
It, and I felt

01:14:03:18 –> 01:14:06:08
Bad one time. You did not feel bad.

01:14:06:27 –> 01:14:10:02
It was, we were too. It was a monumental, amazing experience in

01:14:10:09 –> 01:14:12:05
Our marriage was so excited because now I felt

01:14:12:14 –> 01:14:12:20

01:14:12:20 –> 01:14:13:07

01:14:13:14 –> 01:14:14:19
More. You were happy. No,

01:14:15:02 –> 01:14:21:14
No, you were ecstatic. It’s like the first time you might hear her fart a little bit and you’re like, that opens up flood gates. Oh my. Now I can be a normal human.

01:14:23:05 –> 01:14:27:14
Oh dear. I don’t know why we went there. It’s true. No, we were driving to, or

01:14:27:19 –> 01:14:27:20

01:14:28:03 –> 01:14:29:22
Or or yeah, a little cu cuss and

01:14:29:22 –> 01:14:49:17
I’m like, to the zoo, we were taking our four kids to the zoo. Hoggle Zoo. Hoggle Zoo one one day. And we were driving in the car and his mother called and said, happy anniversary. And he looked at me and he’s like, is it our anniversary? And I had to look at the calendar ’cause we’re okay. And it was, and it was so you both forgot.

01:14:50:13 –> 01:14:52:29
It was a glorious day, Jason, I’m telling you.

01:14:53:03 –> 01:14:54:28
So excited because he had no

01:14:54:28 –> 01:15:00:28
More responsibility and it was already past noon. If it’s like 7:00 AM and someone says it to you, it doesn’t count.

01:15:01:06 –> 01:15:14:28
I gotta tell you it was a unique experience. Okay. We were married August 2nd. Okay. Okay. I can’t, I don’t, I don’t know, I don’t know how many anniversaries he is been home, but not very many. So the fact that we were together on that day, of course I would think it wasn’t our anniversary.

01:15:15:01 –> 01:15:21:01
Well, again, again, I was out gaining knowledge to provide for the family, family, all of those things. Of

01:15:21:01 –> 01:15:25:06
Course. And we did both forget. So yeah, he’s kind of off the hook forevermore. But he doesn’t forget anymore.

01:15:25:20 –> 01:15:34:11
I know. It’s ’cause we don’t. Well, and and we we’ve both been married, what, 22, 23 years? I we hit 22 in December. You guys are about the same four

01:15:34:11 –> 01:15:35:05
We 22 in August.

01:15:36:02 –> 01:15:41:20
Adam, I said I listen, I said 22 and three. I teed up for you to say yes. Yes. Okay.

01:15:41:20 –> 01:15:43:06
Yes. 22 to three, you’re hundred percent

01:15:43:06 –> 01:15:44:16
Right. I didn’t say exact

01:15:44:23 –> 01:15:45:20
Good grief.

01:15:46:10 –> 01:15:54:26
22 to three. Yes, Adam. That’s right. Yeah. Moving around along all. So my, what I’m saying is we’ve had a lot of years to remember. December 14th.

01:15:55:18 –> 01:15:56:03
What’s that?

01:15:56:18 –> 01:15:57:20
Is that, that’s a anniversary. That’s our

01:15:57:27 –> 01:15:59:11
Year of the same year. Yeah.

01:15:59:19 –> 01:16:01:21
Yeah. You guys were married. 96. 96.

01:16:02:00 –> 01:16:10:20
We meant the world to make the world out there feel better. I gotta just tell you, I think it was yesterday in the office. Oh, Adam and Jason were having a discussion about when Valentine’s was.

01:16:11:03 –> 01:16:12:13
No, we weren’t. Yes. And

01:16:12:13 –> 01:16:13:07
They said yesterday,

01:16:13:18 –> 01:16:14:14
It was in this last week.

01:16:14:24 –> 01:16:15:25
Yes, it was. And it, it

01:16:15:25 –> 01:16:18:12
Wasn’t Valentine’s is Valentine’s February 14th. And I thought,

01:16:18:16 –> 01:16:18:25

01:16:18:26 –> 01:16:23:05
It was a couple of other people in the office. It wasn’t Adam and I, it 45

01:16:23:05 –> 01:16:24:00
Years on the planet.

01:16:24:05 –> 01:16:58:06
It it wasn’t, it wasn’t us, I think. Okay. Let I, I’ll interject now. And, and, and, and we’ll, we’ll give them a plug after I mention this. But I think we were talking about is Valentine’s Day during the expo? Yeah. Oh, I see. So that’s not December 14th. Who doesn’t know when Valentine’s Day? December everybody. It’s February. Yeah. Oh February. Okay. That’s my anniversary. And that’s the most important day. The second most important day is February 14th. That’s why I picked the 14th. So I would remember those 14th are involved.

01:16:58:15 –> 01:16:59:09
I think, I think you’ve

01:16:59:09 –> 01:17:05:26
Convinced him that you don’t. Anyway, by the way, we will be at the Expo, the Western Hunting Conservation Expo in Salt Lake,

01:17:06:03 –> 01:17:07:24
February 14th to the 17th.

01:17:07:27 –> 01:17:20:23
That’s right. Salt Lake City. If any of you have listened to this podcast and you might have a chance to set the record straight with us or our wives, we’ll be there. We’ll have a booth, epic Outdoors booth and we’ll be glad to

01:17:20:23 –> 01:17:47:24
See you there. That’s right. So there at the expo, you can apply for 200 different big game tags at $5 each. You can do it online, but you have to be in person to validate and actually be in the draw. So another great opportunity, we will be there at the Epic Outdoors booth. We’ve been in the same booth for years. We’re also sharing it with the harrows. And they’ll be selling optics of course. Have a world class shed collection, which is of utmost importance. And, and it’s awesome. I’m sure, I’m sure you’re holding on to two 50 to 300 and some odd inch

01:17:48:14 –> 01:17:58:23
Mealy shits. So I’m sure that’s the discussion you heard. Is, is, is Val, are we gonna not be able to take our wives out to a separate dinner date? Or is it gonna be while we’re at the poll? I’m telling you.

01:17:58:27 –> 01:17:59:18
Well, we’re going on a date.

01:17:59:19 –> 01:17:59:25

01:17:59:28 –> 01:18:02:20
Question was, Hey Jana, is Valentine’s on February 14th?

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It was. That

01:18:04:00 –> 01:18:11:18
Was the question. It was, it was. And I it was a, well, sometimes I, well pretty much a lot of times Adam and I are here at three in the morning. Hey Becky

01:18:11:18 –> 01:18:14:05
And I don’t hold grudges. We tired. We’ve been married 20 something

01:18:14:05 –> 01:18:17:06
Years. That’s correct. That’s correct. Okay. Absolutely right.

01:18:17:13 –> 01:18:25:17
But we do have a date. January 25th is the Utah Wild Sheep Foundation’s Banquet dinner. Yes. Yes. And we’re excited. Jan, aren’t

01:18:25:17 –> 01:18:26:07
You excited? Go to that night.

01:18:26:08 –> 01:18:28:19
We’re gonna go, Becky. Oh yes. Very. Did you know that you have tickets?

01:18:29:17 –> 01:18:31:05
I did actually. Okay. I did.

01:18:31:09 –> 01:18:58:14
All right. I did. So anyway, we’re gonna go have a nice dinner there and of course support Utah sheep and all their sheep program and efforts. And so anyway, also within the expo timeframe, February 16th, they will have the full Curl Society will be giving away 11 sheep hunts. It’s where a lot of intense serious hunters that attend the expo like to come there and, and also throw in the, throw their name into the hat for one of these 11 sheep hunts. They have hunts of every species there. Yeah.

01:18:58:23 –> 01:19:12:18
We’re all, we’ve been a big sponsor of that. We’re glad to do it. It’s fun to see people run and jump up on stage and act, act like little kids when they win something like, you know, scratching, sniff sticker. But in this case

01:19:12:26 –> 01:19:13:11

01:19:13:11 –> 01:19:16:12
20 or $30,000 sheet puns. So you a

01:19:16:12 –> 01:19:18:05
Once in a lifetime experience there, a once in a

01:19:18:08 –> 01:19:18:12

01:19:19:10 –> 01:19:19:25
Full curls

01:19:20:05 –> 01:19:22:25
Helping to provide memories for their family. Bring

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Cash so it’s not trackable on a credit card. Alright. Anyway, anyway, we do wanna thank everybody for all your listeners out there. We just thought this would be an interesting podcast. Had no idea where it would go. And I’m not sure of the aftermath and the different things that we’re gonna be dealing with in the, in the next

01:19:38:26 –> 01:19:45:29
Nearest few days. Is there anything that ladies would like to wrap up today that we haven’t addressed that they feel like we didn’t talk about this

01:19:46:11 –> 01:19:47:11
Drive something home?

01:19:47:11 –> 01:19:50:16
Because I, I have a few words before we’re done. I’m sure Jason does as well.

01:19:51:01 –> 01:19:52:11
Just Well,

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And they’re good

01:19:53:12 –> 01:20:36:01
Words. The podcast is focused a lot on, you know, it’s, well a good deal of, it’s focused on the struggles of being married to someone who hunts at the level you guys do. But I hope, I wanted to leave on a positive noble, I didn’t wanna leave the wrong, wrong impression that Adam doesn’t care about his children and he is just out there like some crazy addict and doesn’t care about what I think or feel. It’s nothing like that. I’ve never known someone to love his wife and children more than Adam Bronson. I mean I, I’ve never seen anyone that’s more dedicated to his family. So it’s, it’s, I mean it’s hard to paint the accurate picture, but, but I mean the advice, if I could go back to Becky in 1996 and say, here’s the advice I would give you. It is run.

01:20:38:11 –> 01:20:39:05
Okay. Sorry. Sorry.

01:20:39:13 –> 01:21:10:08
Run, don’t walk. No. Is just let go, let go and embrace the good that it brings to your life instead of trying to change your spouse like we were gonna be talking about. Yeah. You know, thinking that your spouse needs to be this certain preconceived way. It needs to be like the Stepford husband, this, this, this, this, this, the Stepford husband. Instead of that let go and embrace the good all of it. And it’s an amazing amount of good that brings to your life and, and don’t have a set expectation of it’s gotta be like this, this, this. And that’s what I would’ve told Becky back then. ’cause it would just save a lot of heartache and difficulty and stress. Well,

01:21:10:10 –> 01:21:28:02
And on the heels of that, you know, guys, if guys will, you know, adjust a little bit and be willing to give a little here and there and, and the wife gives a little bit pretty soon you’re, you can make it work, you know, but if it’s, if you lay down the law and, and I like to tease Jana about laying down the law and we all know who wears the pants, which

01:21:28:02 –> 01:21:28:18
I’ve never done.

01:21:29:08 –> 01:21:30:26
Well we all know that. I I’ve never

01:21:30:26 –> 01:21:31:17
Done it either Janet,

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01:21:32:05 –> 01:21:37:04
We all know that she’s in charge. And anyway, do you have any, anything you’d like to add, Janet?

01:21:37:04 –> 01:21:51:02
Well, I don’t, I didn’t have the struggle. Becky did. I came from a background that was more, I guess accustomed to that kind of a lifestyle. Not, not to the extent of being gone that you are, but, but just the whole animal thing was not foreign to me and not difficult for me at all. Our

01:21:51:02 –> 01:21:52:18
First two years were wonderful, weren’t

01:21:52:18 –> 01:21:57:26
They? No, our first two years were tough. But that’s a whole nother podcast about cutting apron strings. Oh,

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01:21:58:26 –> 01:23:02:24
Whoa, whoa. Spoiled little boys. Ouch. No, if I had to say so many, so many no. If I were gonna say, you know, the hunting life I feel like’s been great for us. Really. I mean it’s got its, it’s got its downsides and, and probably the har the most it difficult downside is you being gone a lot. And mostly because I feel like the kids get a little gypped ’cause they don’t get more time with dad. But having said that, I think that Jason does a phenomenal job of balancing the two. When he’s home, he is engaged, he takes time with the kids when he is doing something that the kids can be involved in, he’ll take a kid or two with him. He tries to involve them in, in this life that he, that he’s leading. And, and so he does get a lot of quality time. And I think that, I’m just gonna say, okay, maybe that’s a boastful point, but our husbands are professionals at what they do. Oh yeah. They’re very professional. And when you get somebody that’s that mentality that can be that kind of professional and they apply that at home as well, even though they’re gone a lot, I think that they’re professional dads too. I mean they’re really quality. That’s a great point. Quality parents. And they really do

01:23:02:24 –> 01:23:06:26
Engage. Let’s end on that, like where this is, let’s end on on that now. Unless you can you add on that?

01:23:08:12 –> 01:23:10:11
I was just gonna say thank you and I love you honey.

01:23:13:12 –> 01:23:13:26
I do too.

01:23:14:02 –> 01:23:23:20
Yeah. I mean, you’re awesome in all truthfulness. I mean we, we’ve laughed and joked a lot today about, about truth in, in a lot of ways it’s not, Jim set a

01:23:23:20 –> 01:23:25:12
Few things that weren’t quite there, but, but

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01:23:27:14 –> 01:23:28:18
Some truth to some of this,

01:23:29:11 –> 01:24:06:06
But, but the truth is, yeah, I mean we realize that, I mean, we’ve turned a hobby, not not an addiction, but a hobby into, in a lot of ways, a way of life. Whether it be through the formation of Epic outdoors and you know, maybe some of my guiding Jason guides as well. And so just a, a hobby into a way of life that is very unique. You know, it’s not, we realize we’re fortunate to do that. We’ve had a, we had to give up things to get to where we are now. A lot, you know, different careers in certain states. I mean, Jason, you got degrees in finance and things like that and went a different way with your dad. Started at the same as me. That’s right.

01:24:06:16 –> 01:24:06:26

01:24:06:26 –> 01:24:09:06
Knew where you were gonna be. 25 or 30 grand a year

01:24:09:06 –> 01:24:10:07
Thought would be selling stocks.

01:24:10:12 –> 01:24:43:14
Yeah. 25. Yes. 25 or 30 grand a year. I mean, you’re, you’re starting from somewhere. And then we’ve, you know, reformed, you know, our own, our own entity, epic outdoors. And it takes a lot to get there. And we need, we needed these solid women, strong women behind us. And I’m grateful for, that’s for Becky. ’cause I, we, I wouldn’t be where I am today without her because of, because of the support that it takes to leave a couple jobs, careers along the way. And when you do that, you’re literally starting from, from nothing. I mean, you’ve got a good name hopefully, and you’ve got ambition, but it’s still, you gotta have support behind,

01:24:43:21 –> 01:25:42:14
You know, so well it’s through all these challenging times that everybody, everybody listening has had challenging times in their lives. But through those transitions, job changes, stressful times, wondering how you’re gonna provide for the family. All of these things. It’s so nice to have a strong woman that keeps you grounded, tells you you’re doing good even though you’re not. It has faith in you when you don’t have faith in yourself. And, and so all of those things, and I know one thing with Jan and we’ve talked about it a little bit because her and Becky and and other women of of hunters out there sacrifice as much as we do. They’re sacrificing a lot for us to be out there. And so it makes it that much sweeter our successes in the field. Jenna’s mentioned that, you know, some of the high points of, of our life in hunting. She has felt that she’s earned that too and has taken part in, in, in appreciating the experience, appreciating that when, when the hunt comes together and maybe you accomplish something, you always wanted to accomplish a big deer or whatever. We

01:25:42:14 –> 01:25:45:06
Especially love it when it happens. The first day of the hunt, not the last.

01:25:46:21 –> 01:25:49:28
So anyway, thank you. Love you guys. Yeah, Jen, you

01:25:50:00 –> 01:25:58:16
Awesome. Been a guys are good supports coming in. We had fun today. Oh, this is fun. Oh yeah. We’ll have to do something again. Maybe we’ll get some feedback from listeners and

01:25:58:18 –> 01:26:17:08
Maybe we’ll let Jana have a monster before next time. Huh? Huh? I’m not a proponent of monsters hates, monsters. Hates I don’t think anybody should drink them. And they and they shouldn’t And, and they shouldn’t. They shouldn’t. But anyway. All right. Let’s call it a day. How about that? All right. All.