EP 134: Meet the Newest Member of the Epic Outdoors Staff. In this episode of the Epic Outdoors Podcast we introduce you to the newest member of our team, Wyatt Bowles. Wyatt has been in the hunting industry full time for nearly 15 years and has extensive experience as a successful guide, and consultant. We’re happy to have him with us and are excited to let you all get to know him. Wyatt will be available to consult our clients on application strategies as well as to help book hunts for our members.

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I bet it’s 15 plus miles straight, straight lined to where that buck was going.

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If you could hit rewind when you found a deer like that, you’re

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In the field and you’ve been there, done that. But then you also have to have office skills. Anything to do with Western big Games.

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To the Epic Outdoors Podcast, powered by Under Armour.

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Hey everybody. Jason Carter, Adam Bronson. Jeff John, Chris Peterson, and

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A new guest with us today. Wyatt Bulls not, I’m not gonna call him a guest.

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No, he is not a guest. A

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New, he

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Was a guest participant. He’s now staff. One of us staff. That’s right. Wyatt Bulls. So how you doing Wyatt?

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Doing good. Doing good. Just getting back from a few hunts and in here, podcasting with you guys.

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What do you guys think of his radio voice? Does he have a good radio

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Voice? Pretty, pretty good. Sounds about like his phone voice. What does that mean? What’s a phone voice versus a radio voice? It’s the same. Isn’t that the same thing I gonna say? Yeah. I dunno.

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Your voice.

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It’s, in other words, it’s your voice. Yeah.

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Much. It needs to be worked on a little bit. Does it? Yeah, it does. Little deeper. There you go. There you go.

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What do you, I tell you what we, me and Chris did that one podcast together and I listen to myself and I’m like, man, I sound like Shh bad. And then Chris talks and I’m like, that’s what a radio voice is supposed to sound like. Like, like Chris’s radio voice. That’s, that’s Chris.

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See, I don’t

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Powered by under, I don’t know about that. ’cause I listen to mine and I’m like, Hey, you sounds stupid.

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No. Yeah, yeah, you’re right. I did sound stupid. No, that was me.

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No, I all think, we all think we eat. We yourself. Yeah. You know, you’re always, you’re you’re own biggest critic. That’s right. So Wyatt think you’ll sound dumb. And we think he’s awesome. He’s

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Anyway. Wyatt Bulls, we, we did end up hiring Wyatt here at Epic Outdoors.

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So today would basically like to, you know, visit with Wyatt, talk about his background. Like we do a lot of our podcast guests that many of you may not know, Wyatt’s been in the hunting industry pretty much one way, shape or form most of his whole life. So we just want to, that’s actually how

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We got to know him is out in the field.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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That’s where it all started.

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Some brief, brief

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Introductions on the mountain. Very

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So we just want to introduce that so that you members can understand who he is, what his role here is gonna be at Epic Outdoors, but also have, you know, have the confidence to know when you call and talk to him about, you know, a hunt or a certain specific aspect of Epic Outdoors and what we do here, you’ll have the confidence to know that he’s, he’s been there, done that a lot around the west. So anyway,

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He has, and I want of course, to add onto that just a little bit, we don’t take hiring somebody here lightly. A you gotta be a good dude. You gotta be humble, but you gotta kill some stuff and you gotta be, you know, you’re in the field and you’ve been there, done that. But then you also have to have, you know, office skills, be able to spell, read, write, things like that. And, and so there’s, you know, it’s kind of, kind of, all those things are important. Why it’s got a little bit of everything and seems like, and we’re about to find out a perfect fit here at Epic Outdoors. Anyway, Adam and I and, and Jeff and John and Chris and everybody here. Like I say, it’s, it’s kinda like family here at the office. We get along, like family fight, like family things like that too. But to bring somebody in to our office, you don’t want, in our personal space isn’t taken lightly.

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Don’t, you don’t want to disrupt the, the machine. Yeah. You don’t wanna pour sugar in the gas tank.

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Yeah. Things like that. Yeah. You know, a monster in the gas tank thinking it’s stable or something, which it, it cut double is stable to

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A lot of stuff.

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Yep. Sea foam, things like that. That’s right.

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Well, let’s start, we’re talking why, let’s let you tell us a little bit about, we all know, but we’re gonna ask you. So everybody’s listening, where are you from? You know, what’s your background as far as how you got into hunting and things like that?

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So I actually grew up here in a central Utah town. Nephi, smaller, smaller community.

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Common name. Yeah. Town.

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I wonder how it got its name.

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Yeah. I don’t wonder that too all the time, huh? Geez. But, so anyways, my dad, big, big hunter, good friend Mike Berry also was really involved in, in helping me get into hunting, I guess. So spent every, you know, waking hour all through high school, everything like that in the outdoors, looking glass and picking up sheds, trapping what, whatever I could do to just keep me. Did you

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Even graduate from high school?

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I, I did graduate from high school. Definitely Jev High school. A wasp, the wasps A

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Wasps Stinger. Yeah.

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Did you ever sting anybody? N

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No. No. Never stung anybody. No. It was a good place to grow. Did

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You ever get sprayed by a skunk?

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That’s a story for another podcast.

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Yeah. A story for another town.

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Alright. Alright.

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But good place to grow up. Yeah. Central Utah. You’re, you’re not quite up in the epicenter of the people as far as Northern Utah goes. Just south of all that. But

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A little bit below that. And then, you know, like I said, we had a good family friend and we tagged along on about every, every hunt we could go on and kinda learned, learned a little bit of the state that way and eventually after high school got into the, the guiding industry a little bit.

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Yep. So you, you, did you go to ss u u Southern Utah University? Yeah, initially, yeah.

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Started at Snow College, moved down here to Cedar City. Really liked Cedar City. Attended Ss u U and guided and went, went to college at the same time. Seems

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Like you all but graduated. Yeah, all, I can’t remember

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All, but yeah, just like

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One class.

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One class. Yeah. Like

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Who, who does that? We should have had that as a prerequisite. Yeah. You know, they probably should be. Finish your class, you’ll get real wages. There you go. You know what I mean? Yeah. Throw some incentive out there. You used until you take that class. Yeah,

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Right. Might still have to go back.

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Don’t you do something like that? Yeah.

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Do you know I had to do that. I had what

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These millennials is the class.

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I had to, no, I graduated the question, but I had to graduate before I got paid.

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So here’s the

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Question. Oh yeah. Back at hf. Oh yeah,

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Yeah, yeah. I remember that. I

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Remember that. So that’s how we got free work outta you.

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What is the,

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He was on a five year internship.

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What’s the one class? Is it like,

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It’s probably communications or something.

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Do you know what it is? I

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Have communications. It is math.

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Is it?

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I have start over in math. That’s lots dos because of an expiration date. Oh.

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On some credits from like Snow or something else from Snow College.

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Look into this. This is a big deal. We need, we need him to have his c you know, his bachelor’s

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32 years

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Old. 32 years old.

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You are, you’re 32. And another single guy, Chris,

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We got

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Wyatt. Now Chris doesn’t get all the brunt of our jokes about and we don’t run. This is

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So fun. We get to pick on two single guys is here at the office

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About their dating life and just

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Mildly single. So now

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We don’t just have one guy single getting all the interesting.

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It’s hard to get much out of him when it comes to that. You can hear him about a big deer. I mean, you can hear him about a lot of stuff like that, but yeah, he is a little quiet about the

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Single stuff he is. But, but, but be honest. If you were single, would you be quiet around this crew?

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Absolutely. I’d keep my mouth shut. I’d have it under lock and key. I would not say a word. I, no, I don’t, I don’t even know any eligible women. Like I don’t Now I’m

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Telling you to find a, you don’t

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To find a wife. And and of course my wife and your wife are sisters. Yes. And I do take exception to the fact that you pit me and Jana with Angie going, well Jana has it way worse than you do.

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Oh, well it works out great. You think about it like, this has been my whole life. Like, like, like, okay, when Jason Carter’s your brother-in-law and he’s gone for three months, a year, like three, four months a year solid. When I leave for a week to go hunting, I’m like, that’s, it

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Could be worse. Yeah, it could be worse. Sister could

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Sister, you could be married to Jason

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Has it worse. And she seems to be happy. Yes. She smiles. What with? She smiles every day. Yeah.

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What’s wrong with you? I mean, it’s a week. Come on. Apologies.

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It’s been a, it’s been a blessing as far as being able to whip, whip that outta the bag and she’s always, you know, she always has a good comeback because she is a wolfly, which we know there, you know, one day we gotta have the whole hyena pack on here. We should

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Have the hy Fun on a podcast.

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Would fun if we

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Do that. Let’s do it. I get to moderate that because Jason will be biased on the mic. But I, I’m gonna, I’m gonna have Jason and I’m gonna have the room in half and it’s gonna be good. Anyway, we’re

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Digs. We’re gonna to have a separation of bars. This is before it’ll, it’ll end up. Scratch’s gonna, alright, so back to yy. Who are you? Who are you and where’d you come from? Okay, we went to Gab now we went to college. Didn’t graduate Now, now where are we at?

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Got into the guiding industry shortly outta high school. Went to work with Doyle Moss. With Moss back. Okay. Outfitters kind of started out with kind of smaller odds and end end hunts there with him and worked our way up.

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Spotting. Yeah, spotting like they have what we call spotters here in need. You got spotters and guides. Yep. Right. And so you were spotting a little bit or just they were just filling you out. Hey, let’s send this kid over here to

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This snot those punk kid. Let’s see what he does. Somewhere, somewhere else.

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Somewhere, somewhere. Nobody wants to go. Yeah, exactly. But then they could say they covered it.

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Exactly. So

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In a full-size truck and a road that’s meant for a four-wheeler. Exactly.

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I don’t know what the problem is. Why, why

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Been been a lot of

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Those? Oh, it washed out 14 years ago. Oh wow. Sorry. It’s good to know. We won’t take our nice vehicles there. Sorry.

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Your ball joints are ruined. Wow. Sorry. Tough stuff. Get the

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Thing. And they didn’t even have canvas cutter. Yeah, no. So you had to have your own little sleep bag. Probably a mummy bag and you know, and the rib bed or the truck Couldn’t afford a foam mattress. I mean, you know, we’ve all been Exactly,

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We all started somewhere. Yep.

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Throw the cot out to the side of the truck and just sleep, you know? Yeah.

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So what did you

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Walk off summer nights

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Starting off as, what did you, throughout, I guess high school, in early college, what did you gravitate to as liking to hunter guide the most? What, what species?

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It’s just always been mule deer. I mean, I, I kind of, one memory that really pops out back in high school we were, I was actually glassing with a good friend and we turned up a, a buck that was a, it was a pretty famous buck around nefe for a while. You guys might have heard about it. The golf course. Buck 2, 2 20 plus type.

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You turned him out. You, you turned him up at the ninth.

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Yeah. Turned, turned him up on the ninth green. Yeah. He went there with the golf course, but

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Nobody knew where he came from.

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No one knew where he summered. No one knew anything about him and you except he showed up there and we ended up blasting him up in the summertime in the velvet. And that’s just how far,

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You know, it’s hard. It’s really hard to glass, you know, from a golf buggy because they don’t have the windows, you know. Yeah.

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You can’t

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No window mount.

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Yeah, I bet it’s 15 plus miles straight. Come on. Straight line to where that buck was going down.

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Was he straight up in the rugged, nasty? Yeah,

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I put put up in some higher country. It wasn’t really as nasty as you would imagine it, it should have been in place. A lot of people would’ve would’ve picked him up, but it was just, just a tight little canyon. And he Wow. Spent his summers in there. So Did

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You hunt him that year?

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I, I never ended up hunting him. A guy by the name of Todd Robison there had an ephi killed. I

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Remember he killed that there. Yeah.

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Yeah. That, that year he was 226 inches. Geez.

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2 26

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Inches I

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Believe. Yeah, I remember that. He was kind of, he had gravitated down towards town, hadn’t he? Yeah. Started the rifle hunt,

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Started moving down towards the rifle. Huh? That

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Was before phone scope or, you know, I mean, I remember we were taking little hi eight video cameras and, you know, holding ’em up next to the Did you get any footage

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Or? Exactly what I had was an old hi eight video camera. Went in there, tried to film him. I I didn’t realize the optical and digital zoom kind of kind of difference. Yeah. Got zoomed in pretty tight. So I have a bunch of pixelated footage of, of that deer.

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Well, well we have, we have archives of that kind of stuff. So

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That’s, geez,

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That’s, that’s well and that’s easy to get, you know, a deer like that. And now we talk about a deer like that and I don’t know how many years ago that’s been, but those deer, those deer rare. We know that. And, and we have a few deer like that, that if you could hit rewind when you found a deer like that, you just thought, ah, this is another big deer and I’ll hunt another one next year. And that just doesn’t happen, you know? So anyway, so deer was kind of the thing that elevated most. But you’ve done Yeah, for the last, I dunno, 15 years roughly. 14 before

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14, 15 years. Yeah. Mostly, mostly just deer and elk. I mean, I’ve done a little bit of the sheep stuff, but not, not a lot.

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How about antelope?

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Not a lot of antelope stuff either. It’s never, never really.

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I like those things.

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Caught that bug.

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Well, Jason, well

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They’re easy to catch. They chase your truck. Just teasing. Sean killed one this year was an awesome hunt. But anyway. But I know you’ve been on quite a variety. Most everything Utah has to offer.

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Yeah, I’ll be a buffalo, a moose, goat, a little bit of everything. Goats. Yeah. You drew your own goat tags.

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Yeah, I was fortunate enough to draw a goat tag here in Utah. After what, 16 or 17 years of applying. Geez. Went up there, had a, had a good hunt with my, my dad and some really good friends of mine. And we drew the Willard Peak tag. Same tag Jason had a few years ago. Yeah.

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Awesome. What, so, so basically your, you’re, you’re guiding, you’re kind of in the industry a little bit. And then you, you took some clients, you’ve obviously been in other states like Doyle’s, you know, he’s known to be in other states, governor tags, whatever, landowner tags, different things you’ve been doing all of those with them, with the crew there, spotting and different things like that. Guiding a few guys, having guys in, in your truck, which I know you love having clients in your truck, like, you know what I mean? Yeah. We tease him a little might because he really likes, it’s not, it’s nice to be a spotter ’cause you don’t have the pressure, but you’re in on it all. So anyway, you’re not

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Fully babysitting and, and I don’t mean to say babysitting, but you’re not fully like have to pressure, be engaged

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With that person all the time. It is guidance, stressful and game animals never do what you want ’em to do. So then you end up moving on a little bit, but you kind of keep working with Doyle. Yeah.

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Yeah. So, so I was going to college there, kind of teamed up with Doyle. We started a smaller little application service. I was kind of running outta my basement. It kinda kind of started to take off a little bit. As busy as I wanted to be with, with going to college at the same time. It kind of morphed into a job i I took with a worldwide trophy adventures. Yeah. There’s

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Been, so your, your role there, you still guided on the side maybe not as much since you did have a, I guess a full-time job. Tell us about, I I mean what your, what your job was there. I mean, what you did, what, how you did interact with clients. Was it, was it strictly just license application stuff? Maybe you did do do some hunt bookings too. Tell us about what you did for them. Yeah.

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Com combination of both there started out in, you know, the, the license application. That was definitely kind of my more wheelhouse. That’s what I’d started. That’s what I’d, what I’d learned, you know, studying the state draws what there is to know the units, everything like that, what’s producing, what’s hot, what’s not. Everything like that. So started out there and kind of eventually worked into to a little bit of hunt booking. So I, you know, my stronger suit’s probably the Hunter Hunt application service. But yeah, I’ve, I’ve done both

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Well and you’ve done done enough and been around enough too. And, and it, in this industry you get clients that if, if you get some clients that, that are paying, you want to take care of all their licenses. Some of these guys also have have the means to book a hunt or two or three a year. And so those guys that you’re treating well and handling their application stuff, it’s a natural discussion to talk to ’em, okay, if the draws don’t go my way, I need a big elk or I need a big mule there. And so you’re naturally helping them. And so it kind of does go hand in hand. And that, that’s exactly how it does for us here at Epic Outdoors. You know, the, the goal here is to get guys on hunts and get ’em on the hunts that they want to go. The draws one means for that, but there’s other means for that as well. So you’ve had an opportunity, I guess do both, you know, both those kind of ends of, you know, the guaranteed tag situation as well as the draw stuff. And how many years did you work for them? So I was

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There about four years. Just felt it was time to move on. It’s, it’s kinda how it went. I went back to guiding full time the last, last little bit before I got in contact. Like

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The last year. Yeah. Pretty much, wasn’t it? Yeah. And you know what? I’ve been impressed and I thought, I think you, you, you brought it up and, and Bronson you reiterated a little bit, but you know, I’ve been impressed. I mean, you know why it’s like the coffee shop. He, he’s keeping track of everything. One of

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His, one of his nicknames just one

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Is coffee shop is

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Starbucks. Yeah,

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Yeah. Starbucks one of them. And so he’s

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Got a bunch of nicknames. Well

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We got YY barber shop

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Barber Barbershop Coffee Shop, Starbucks, Starbucks. So anyways,

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Got a couple others that,

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This friend of his, he’s got some of come out later,

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But when he said what’s hot, what’s not is what jarred with me and and struck a chord is he is, it is true. He’s keeping track of what’s hot, what’s not. And that’s what we’re doing all the time. Is, is there, things are changing all the time. Colorado units, whatever it is, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming. You, you’re going to Wyoming this year. Yeah. I mean, you know, and and that’s another thing. I mean, there’s guides that guide, but they never like really hunt for themselves. They’re just, they’re in that mode of taking clients and you’re one of those that you guide so you can hunt or, or you’re glassing so you can hunt or whatever. And you’ve always got it in your mind. How am I gonna kill one of those deer that I’m, that I’m helping my client kill? And and that’s kind of been, I mean, it’s been awesome to watch. And, and like Bronson says, I mean it’s, we’re just keeping track and we’re, you know, of course we talk about the units, we publish the units, we we’re constantly keeping track of everything. And that’s something I think you do naturally. It’s not like something you’re paid to do, it’s something you’re just doing. You know.

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Seems, seems like a lot of those units too are they’re, they’re kind of a trend. You gotta kind of be in front of the trend ’cause you can’t be behind it or you’re gonna have the unit shot out or you’re gonna have something detrimental is gonna come through and it’s gonna change the draws. And Well,

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A lot of what we do here too is yeah, we try to be somewhere before it’s something. And, and I don’t mean that to, we don’t always get it right. We we’re guessing, we’ve ate a lot of tags, we’ve ate some tags. We’re like, I’m not going back. Let’s

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Not talk about eating tags. Not even this year either.

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I mean, geez. But but but be somewhere when it’s on the upward, just right when you feel the momentum going and not, not, you know, hunting something 10 years after everybody else has hunted it and pounded to death. So there’s, in this day and age, it feels like with, with, with the way information travels, it’s hard to hit something right. And it’s hard to hit something right while you can draw it or be there before point creep and everything out blows it outta the water and all that. So anyway, you’re Yeah, that’s partly where the coffee shop Starbucks name comes is Yeah, Wyatt’s just, he’s very well connected in the hunting world in terms of, you know, when something dies, he’s, he’s hears about it pretty dang fast.

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You know? And that’s, that’s something you’ve been, you’ve been full-time in the hunting industry for how long now? It’s,

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It’s 13, 14 years now.

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13, 14 years. I mean, I mean, if you’re a cop, you’re seven years away from retirement, right? Like, if you’re in a public and if you had, if you firefighter and if you had a firefighter, you’re seven years away from retire.

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And in the hunting industry, if you had a family, they’d be starved to death. Yes. Do this for the love. You do this for the love.

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Absolutely. Yeah. I think it’s, I think it’s important to have that amount of time behind under your belt in the hunting industry. You’re, you know, the people, you know, the communication, you know, everything. And that, that brings a lot of value here to Epic outdoors. That’s a hundred percent right. Well it does.

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And the spectrum of hunts that you’ve been on, why you’ve, you’ve been a part of a lot of, you know, regular draw tags, governor or sportsmen or raffle type tags where there’s, you know, big stakes at play, so to speak. You know, you’re after the biggest and best elk, you know, whether it be Utah or Nevada, I think those are mainly the states. Maybe a little bit in northern Arizona, but he’s also been a part of general season stuff. I mean, you kill the, you kill the freaking giant mule deer here a handful of years ago that, you know, was a deer of a lifetime on general season tags. And it goes back to a little bit what Jace was saying, when you’re in the middle of it all, you know, you can’t always just go down and, and buy your statewide tag or something like that, but you, you have a drive to find something the best wherever you’re at. And, and we’ve, we picked up on that. Tell us a little bit about that deer since I brought it up. General

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Season monster. General

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Season monster. Yeah. That was a, just a very good year. It’s one of those units that kind of trended out too. The units hasn’t been producing that kind of deer, but we ended up taking two really good deer off that, that unit that year. Actually three really good deer off that unit that year actually come down to a, a buddy buying a ranch at the, at the time down there. And I’d spent all summer setting the ranch up and everything for him getting everything, you know, trail cameras, doing all the work, kind of helping him turn it into a, you know,

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A mill mecca, mul milder mecca,

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A mul elk paradise I guess. And it, it did become a pretty hot ranch for a while. And just shortly there before the hunt, we were getting some good deer on camera and he offered to gimme a chance to hunt

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And you hunted and

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We, we hunted hard. Yeah.

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Is that in the rifle?

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That was on the rifle. General season rifle

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Hunt. So we lived through the archery and muzzle where I think probably the ranch owners, some others hunted it. And you got to

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Clean up for anybody that’s listening why it is not available for consulting purposes, biological whatever for your particular ranch. He’s full-time here at Epic.

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He’s got a job, so, right.

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Yeah. It, it actually turned into a pretty, pretty long hunt. I mean, it killed it the night of day, day seven. Wow.

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A nine day hunt after the archery muzzle loaded had already gone by. So that was, you’re almost to the bottom of the ninth on that. But yeah, what a deer. What

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Did end up going, what?

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It was 235 inches gross. Come on. Yeah. Netted right around 2 31.

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Did it, is it official in the

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Book? Official in the book.

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So right around now. What, what did

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It, it’s 2 31 and three eights or something. Like something that just over 2 31

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Guess that non-typical general season buck. So

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Why it’s a, an official Boone and Crockett score. Did you score that yourself? Put it in the bucket?

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I didn’t. Chris Lacey ought to read

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On Nevada

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Scored it for me there. So

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I do think it’s interesting why it is an official Boune Crockett scorer. He’s scoring nonstop. So anybody, anybody out there that’s killed something big, you want it scored stop by the Epic office. Of course we’re gonna want a story Yeah. As well. Yeah. But, but Wyatt is an official Bo Boone Crockett scorer and getting a great reputation there as well. So what

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Drove you to get into that? Why? Like why did you decide that?

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But you’re also

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I wanna do that, I want to score stuff like what, what was the point

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Of that? You’re also ing young as well. Both, yeah.

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Ping Young and Long Hunter. Yep. So, oh

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Geez, you kill it with illegal S c

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Not ss e I really No, no.

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Bummer. I I could take the, the test though. Like

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Jason Gross.

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Gross is gross. It are for fish. Alright, what were you saying, Jeff?

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No, like how, what got you, what made you decide you wanted to, ’cause it takes a little bit of work to become a scorer right? To

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Become official

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All that stuff. Not like you get paid a couple hundred bucks measurement. It’s just kind of for the love of the game, but yeah. Why, why’d you want to do that? It’s

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Probably like being a notary, that’s a pain in the butt to become a scorer.

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Yeah. So just after, you know, Colin always looked for different ways to kind of be involved in the hunting industry. It kind of, kind of keep my hand in it, kind of, kind of see some of the better animals killed every year. And I was actually out of a b and C Awards banquet out in Reno. It was actually they, they’d sent me out there to take the Spider Bowl out there the year, the year after we killed it to get the world record award or whatever. And, and everyone else show didn’t show up, I guess no one else showed up besides me. So I was out there all by myself and I got piling around with some of the B and c guys and actually got invited to come out there and become a, I guess go to their school there in Montana and become an official measurer. And Wow. I jumped at that chance. It was a four day school out there and

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Kind of a thankless job really. ’cause you can’t get paid to do it. Yeah, right. You’re not paid. Like that’s a, just a service. Just

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A, it’s like,

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But to put your hands on Yeah,

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That’s what you’re doing it for is to little bit like the guiding other than guiding and spotting you actually are can get paid. This one’s just still to be involved. And somebody brings you that 231 and three eights nets bucket gls on your table and says, tell me what this thing is. And you’re like, all right, let’s go. Let, let’s get some masking tape the pencil out and let’s get to work. Yeah,

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Yeah. So the time I actually, the, the youngest ever appointed B N C scores come on. Yeah, it’s kind of, kind of cool that way. Really

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Cool. How, how old were you at the time? Do you remember?

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It was 2009, so I, 10

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Years ago took 22 or three then maybe 22, I think

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22 years old.

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What does

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That bring us now? The

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Wt years you decided to, you move on? This is probably a year and a half ago, maybe two years ago. I’m, I’m, I’m going from memory, decided just to go back to guiding more full-time and, and have done that last couple years and opened the door. I guess you’ve, you’ve remained living in Cedar City. So I guess that’s partly why when we get in, you know, it’s a fit. We’ve known of you, we’ve known of you, but just from a proximity standpoint, you’re already here. You knew Chris, you were friends with Chris ’cause you’re, you guys, you know, hang out in the same circles and things like that. That’s how that introduction I guess probably was a little bit more familiarized. But anyway, just been guiding for heavier for the last couple years. And why, I guess, I mean, your skillset, you know, we’ve gone, gone over it kind of in a crash course, but it’s been very apparent to us.

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You, you have the vernacular down, being able to talk and the understanding of the western state drought process, how to talk somebody through it, how to make decisions for themselves on whether a state’s good or bad for them to consider based on what their pieces of interest are, weapon preferences are, how much money they want to spend out of pocket. You know, you get lots of those types of questions and so it seemed natural for us to, to invite you in. At least have a chat with you about it. And yeah, we’re, we’re excited to have you on board as we’ve, you know, grown here a little bit at Epic Outdoors. We, we saw you and targeted you and, and wanted to at least have that. Yeah, I remember

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Visiting, I think you was downtown or something white. I can’t remember exactly where it was, but it was like, Hey, are you interested? Possibly? And you said, yeah. And I was blown away. Told Adam Adam’s like, oh, we need to look closer. Glad we did. Everything’s awesome. Wyatt’s a super asset to our team here at Epic Outdoors. We don’t take it lightly. He is dealing with clients on the phone direct. And so you’ll, you know, if you call in, wanna visit with him for a minute, just chew the fat a little bit. Call up, ask for Wyatt. I think you’ll find he’s a great asset, just great to visit with. And so anyway, quite a breath of fresh air here in here in our office. We, we appreciate, he is great attitude, work ethic, knowledge base brings a little bit of different angle than Adam and I. And so just a great compliment to our team.

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So I think overall, just to, I guess to probably, to clarify what it is, I mean you could probably ask what about any question? He’s not the type of guy, if he doesn’t know the answer, he’ll find out somebody el else here in the office to help you best with it. But a couple of his main roles are going to be with license application clients and those discussions there as well as some of the hunt bookings. So similarly to what he’s, what he’s been doing, he’s got some other things that, you know, I guess behind the scenes. But as far as dealing with Epic outdoors customers and clients, you know, draw strategy, you know, questions that, things that you have like that even if you, maybe if you are a licensed application service, it’s a natural, but even if you aren’t, but you have some questions about, Hey, I want mule deer, at what state should I be looking at?

00:26:44:06 –> 00:27:22:10
Those are good. Why I can help you with that. Absolutely. ’cause he’s, even though you maybe do your own applications, you know, or you want archery elk or you think you want to do sheep, you know, he, he, he knows how to ask the questions in terms of, all right, how much do you think you wanna spend a year? Is it is a thousand dollars or $1,500? And we’re talking about the non-refundable portion that we all have to pay to play the games. He’s very knowledgeable at that, about that. So don’t hesitate to ask him, you know, you know those types of questions and things like that. Or if you’re looking for a specific hunt or things like that. All of us can, consultants here at Epic Outdoors can help with recommendations of outfitted or outfitted hunts or places if you’re looking for a hunt.

00:27:22:17 –> 00:27:53:26
I think that’s a great point as well. We each have maybe somewhat of a specialty, really. We all do everything. So even Jeff Jeff’s consulting on applications, he has guys that like to visit with him. Adam and I obviously do that as well as, you know, offer hunts for sale and things like that where, you know, we consult on booking hunts too, even though that may be Jeff’s main responsibility, why you’re gonna be licensed application and you’re also dealing in hunts and consulting generally as well. So anyway, no question is, is you know,

00:27:55:14 –> 00:27:55:26
Off limits.

00:27:56:03 –> 00:28:01:08
Off limits. Why? Why you’re a good dude. Yeah. Proud to have you on, proud to have you on board. Thanks.

00:28:01:13 –> 00:28:08:12
And nobody’s more relieved that you’re working here than Chris ’cause he’s just over there quiet because all of this, Chris, we’re directing at you. Be directed at Chris.

00:28:08:12 –> 00:28:11:01
Chris is hugging the window going, I’ve gotta edit this crap.

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Anything else when you haven’t covered or why? What are you, I mean, I guess what are you, that’s the, your first full year kicking

00:28:19:19 –> 00:28:21:23
Off here. What you hunting, what units you hunting this year? Waba.

00:28:21:29 –> 00:28:23:19
Oh, that in depth right now.

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I I don’t hear you guys Sharon.

00:28:27:29 –> 00:28:28:07

00:28:28:14 –> 00:28:28:25
He’s pretty

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Smart. Yeah, he’s listening. Yeah, he’s

00:28:30:28 –> 00:28:31:29
The deflection. Oh

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No, I’m just, just excited for the opportunity to get back on the phones and chatting with Hunters about, about hunts and opportunities and what there is out there for you and working with an awesome crew here at Epic Outdoors.

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Awesome. Well, and it’s, it’s right in the middle. We’re here literally together today for the first time in maybe a couple of weeks as the hunts are underway. We’ve all been participating, all of us in here. A little bit of, of guiding kind of a grind now. Kind of a grind, some personal hunts till now and brings us back together. Wyatt, you’ve smoked big deer on the Ponant, big Elk on San Juan and got other things, you know, going here killed

00:29:05:04 –> 00:29:06:19
Up yesterday morning, right? Yeah, yesterday

00:29:06:19 –> 00:29:07:00

00:29:07:00 –> 00:29:14:20
You don’t even smell like a Rutten bull. Did you even got it. Oh, you make your client. Did you make your client Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Did. Good grief. We know a few guys like that. Yeah,

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No, no. I ended up getting, I had a good crew of guys there with me though, and got it outta there pretty quick

00:29:20:07 –> 00:29:22:14
Onto the next and whatnot. So

00:29:22:15 –> 00:29:32:05
Drove home, drove all night in the office today. That’s another reason to hire single guys. There’s no excuse for not being in the office. There’s no kids ballgame. I mean they can just work,

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But I don’t know how he does it though. He doesn’t drink, not let alone monster. He doesn’t drink Mountain Dew anymore. I know he

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Doesn’t drink anything.

00:29:37:20 –> 00:29:39:08
That is a good question. He drinks water.

00:29:39:10 –> 00:29:44:11
So every time we go to the fridge and, and of course we decide which case of Monster we’re gonna open. Which

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Color of beverage. Right,

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Right. Yeah. Whyy goes for the water. It makes me feel guilty all the time.

00:29:49:18 –> 00:29:51:05
I know. And he’s younger than us.

00:29:52:00 –> 00:29:52:08

00:29:52:11 –> 00:29:53:07
Like this, like

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Worst. That’s the problem. Why we’re drinking Monster. Yeah. Is to keep up with these little whipper snappers.

00:29:59:26 –> 00:30:20:28
The old Toby Keith song rings true. Not as good as we once was. So, but anyway. Yeah. What appreciate you being on board with us. I mean, I’m glad to have him here. He is not going anywhere and trust him with some of your questions as, as you get back from your own hunts, you start looking forward to next year. He’s a great asset to our team. He’s,

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He’s got some guys, Adam, they don’t even wanna talk to us. Oh,

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Already. Yeah, that’s right.

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They they, they’re like, is Ywe there? And I’m like, no, this, this is Jason, can I help you Jason? Who? Jason Carter. No, I want Ywe. I’m like, really? All right, we must have hired the right guy. That’s

00:30:37:08 –> 00:31:30:10
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00:32:15:23 –> 00:32:19:28
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00:32:19:28 –> 00:32:22:14
Broke a blade all the last two years. No. Using those

00:32:22:14 –> 00:32:24:20
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Outta deer. Everything. So anyway. Awesome. Knives. We also want to throw a little shout out to St. James Sporting Properties. Blaine St. James is the owner slash broker. Super good friend of ours, also a great hunter. Knocked down some great animals. And so anyway, he specializes in selling trophy hunting and fishing properties. He knows what he’s looking for ’cause he’s a hunter himself. Very honest guy. One of what we consider our friends actually knew, knew him for years prior to him even supporting Epic Outdoors in this way with his company. And so anyway, we appreciate him on board. If you’re looking to buy a ranch any size, buy or sell, sell, buy or sell, buy or sell property out west. That’s right. Yeah. And you’ve, and it happens to do with anything to do with big game. Definitely. Well worth giving him a holler. Give him a Hollerer 9 7 0 5 9 6 60 89 Or you can email him [email protected]. [email protected]. Anything. He’s licensed in Colorado, Idaho. Kansas, New Mexico, Oregon, Texas, Utah and Wyoming. So anyway, great resource. If you’re looking for, to buy or sell ranches or just kind of bend his ear about some big deer. He, he’s the guy to visit with.

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One of the things we believe in here at Epic Outdoors is working with companies that we truly do support. We use their products and we, so we work with the best companies out there and, and like Outdoor Edge, we use their knives. We love them. And, and we feel great about backing these companies because we love their products and we believe in them. One of those that, that, I mean, a few weeks ago I was out with Jason in New Mexico. I’m sitting there trying to build what

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A grind that was. It was terrible. Let’s, we need to podcast on that. Huh? A podcast.

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But I was, we came back to camp one night and we were gonna cook some steak and so I was gonna build a fire and I started building this fire and it rained a little bit and got the fire going. Within five minutes it was out again.

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Well yeah. Going is relative. I looked at it and I was like, hold on, let me get in my pack.

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And so Ja, Jason busts out the pyro putty and I’ve used it before and so I know it works pretty well. But this time I was shocked. I lit it and that fire just went up and

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I was shocked. Yeah,

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It it was, it was,

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I was like, we’re gonna, we’re gonna owe our life toin. Like I’m like, if we’re ever have actually have to owe our life to chest and that’ll suck

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He’ll abuse us.

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It was, it was beyond my expectations. I, I knew it worked ’cause I’ve done it before, but it just lit right up and we had a roaring fire within two minutes and we cooked our steaks and had a great dinner. Yeah. And so this is another one of those products. It works. It’s worth having. If you haven’t seen it yet, go get some pyro putty. You won’t regret it. It’s, it’s something you ought to have in your pack no matter what. It’s awesome.

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One of those

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Things, it’s a pack, I keep it in my wife’s the door to my wife’s car because I mean, we’ll we’ll be out fishing or something like we’ll go fishing and she stays back and cooks there or whatever. She used to just start the fire right there. Like just at a campsite she loves. And if, if my wife can start a fire, then that obviously it works because you’re saying mean

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She loves it. Saying what you saying

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It works great.

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She’s not an outdoors woman.

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What? She’s not a campfire, you know?

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She’s, no, this is just roll it up and start it and it sits there and burns. I mean it’s, it’s amazing. Yeah, it’s

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Amazing. It’s not a flash in the pan stuff. It sits there and actually burns so you can keep adding your tinder to it if you Awesome product. One of those things I wish we had 35 years ago and

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14 different times. We had cigarette lighters that you thought were better than matches and then your hands were so cold you couldn’t put enough pressure on the cigarette lighter to get a spark.

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Yeah. And the kid locks when they first came out with those kid locks on the bicks. You’re like, really? I mean, those are adult locks. That’s right. You know what I mean? Yes. And we used to have to remember buy ’em in single packets and not open ’em because the gas would all come in and, and what are we talking about? I don’t dunno. Alright guys, again, thanks Ywe for coming on board. We’re happy to have you and you’re, you know, indicated you’re in it for the long haul and, and we expect that you are so glad

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That you are too. I mean glad that you are and yeah, we are. Good luck to everybody out there hunting. This is gonna hit the airwaves right in the middle of it. So maybe you’re driving somewhere to your hunt or driving home and I hope you have a good safe fall. Send us pictures and photos. Keep us in mind for stories and whatnot and wish y’all

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Yeah, send them to [email protected]. [email protected]. We take trophy room photos, stories, anything and everything of interest goes there. You know, a lot of guys like to share their kill with us as well. [email protected]. I’d love to see your success. Same with Adam, same thing, [email protected]. All right guys,

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Over now we out.