In this episode of the Epic Outdoors Podcast we talk about the Nevada guide draw and the benefits of applying with an outfitter if you plan on going guided anyway. We also dive into some deep conversation on hunting trucks, life patterns, and plenty of joking around. We will be headed to the Sheep Show as well as the Western Hunting and Conservation Expo. Come see us there.

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Multi-season hunts, archery hunts.

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Muzz loader hunts. They took the cluster of units, broke ’em out into singles.

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Absolutely should be applying in the guide Jar. Your odds are two to four times. We did the math on almost all the units.

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Anything to do with Western Big Games.

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Welcome to the Epic Outdoors Podcast, powered by Under Armour.

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Hey everybody. Jason Carter. Adam Bronson, Chris Peterson at the keyboard. We got a two couple guys here that we’re gonna talk to. A why buy, why Bowls? Devon Archibald. Guys, good guys here in the office. We’ve had a long old week. Here we are. Friday afternoon, Chris is making us do a podcast. Of course, we like doing them. Talk about what’s cranking.

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That’s right. It’s a busy time of year for us. The New Year’s over. Happy new New Year to everybody. But it’s time to get some tags. I mean it’s, that’s bring

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It. We, Adam and I have been coming into work early. Three something, two something.

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We had some spreadsheet entries this morning. The wheel hours. We built

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A whole

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Spreadsheet. I don’t know what,

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I’ve got yours. My wife’s and mine and I’ve got some blanks. Why do you, why

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Do you He has my wish. I’ll just call it a wishlist. We’re just going through things that I might try to draw. Well, and he’s typing ’em all in his spreadsheet.

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Here’s the deal. This is what Adam does to you though. You’re cranking along, you’re, you’re just typing away and all of a sudden he wants to talk. So we get out and we start talking hunts and I forget what we decided. And I’m one of those guys when we decide something like I wanna stick to it. And so anyway, Adam’s coming up with ideas. I’m typing like crazy on this Excel spreadsheet. And now I think they’re somewhat set in stone. I’m gonna hold you to ’em a little bit. That

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That’s him. It’s the 10th of January. And according to him, I can’t apply for any hunts this year ’cause I’ve got, oh no, there’s

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Some things on the spreadsheet. I know. Yeah, you gotta apply for those

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And don’t, that’s it. I can’t even get, I can’t even go after hail Mary tags.

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No, you have no room. That’s

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What he’s trying to tell

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Me. He has no room. And of course Wyatt, you guys got, you guys got some points? We got three guys here in the office. Adam, they’ve been playing for deer in Utah since they’re in high school.

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Yeah. Is that still holding strong, Chris, Wyatt and Devin. Is that right? That’s right. You guys are sitting between 14 and 18 points. All of you, right? Yep. Yep.

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Wow. Chris.

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Well how many you got? I don’t know.

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I’m gonna have to calculate here. See,

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He’s pun

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No. Hold on. Let me, lemme calculate. Once again, if Chris was a football player, he’d be a punter. That was Wyatt. That was

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Wyatt. Well, whatever. Either way

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It changes one of them. You’re the punter and the other one’s the backup punter.

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To day this gets changed.

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So well, so what Wyatt, how many points you got?

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I’m sitting on 18. Ooh,

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What are you gonna do?

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Let’s get on the record. Let’s get the spreadsheet out and let’s make an entry and save it. I’ve got until

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March. I’ve got plenty of time. No you don’t. Not feeling any of the pressure.

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No. No, you

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Don’t. Not not yet.

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So anyway, we’re

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Busy planning Adam’s fall.

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Wyatt. We’ll be hunting deer in Utah, man. Just a matter of when we’re gonna do it.

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Lower man on the totem pole. So Adam’s falls. Gotta go. Jason’s has gotta fall.

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I have zero dear points in Utah. So zero, zero. But I’m eligible again. Dang. I’m one of those guys that was on a two year waiting period and because of the new five year waiting period that got enacted, I’m grandfathered on the old two, so I’m good to go. Lucky yeah,

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You did. I think what I think Wyatt should do a hamson on Buck Cliffs.

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New ham hunts.

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I’m being serious. That’s right. So there’s a lot of new changes in Utah. Adam’s been cranking out, kind of lining those out for us this last week. And of course kind of creates, creates a little excitement’s. Well,

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And and for all of you that think that I just, Jason portrayed me as just, I like to interrupt people in. They, when they’re middle of working and just random comment, I’m really working

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Well. I do the same. I

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Do the same. He’s doing New Mexico and he’s rattling off something and pretty soon we’re talking about three antelope choices down there, which tend to don’t even matter. ’cause the odds are so terrible. You’re never, well

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The odds were like one and 300 on some of the units. So last year, as a lot of you guys know out there, they took the cluster of units, broke ’em out into singles, a lot of singles. Some of ’em doubles. And the the drawing odds were kind of irrelevant. And because they broke ’em out, they also broke out the quotas. This, the tag quotas in the unit, which got, allows for less less tags issued per h code. And so the drawing ons went through the roof.

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Two four. So anyway, we, we, we digressed in New Mexico and then I’m New Mexico

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Antelope no

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Less. And then I’m, and then I’m talking about, I’m trying to get these, I’m going through the deer tables the other day, during the day as the calls were slightly lighter for an hour. So I’m trying to get, give Wyatt options. I’m throwing out stuff, you know, premium hunt or multi-season hunts. Archery hunts. Muzzle loader hunts. Just trying to find the button, right button to push thinking. But he’s not the kind of guy. And Devin, you know him probably better than anybody. Chris, you three man, you just there. He’s not the kind of guy that is an impulse shopper. Like really? Have you ever seen something in a window white and said, I need to have that and I’m gonna buy it. No.

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No. And 10 seconds later, very methodical. You’re at the cash register.

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Very methodical. I don’t

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Think, I mean, let’s, let’s talk about this a little bit. I I really want to get into this ’cause it’s just this, there’s little things, there’s little things about each person individually, like Mulder that create their personality tendencies. And, and so when a Wyatt comes in and says, okay, I just wanna back up a little bit. When he first started coming into the office and started working with us, he was 6 29 every freaking morning. 6 29. Who does that? Who does that?

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And he has a 10 or 12 minute drive to work. I don’t know what that is. It’s, well, he

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Knows. What is it? I mean, 10 point, 10 point 10 minutes, 10 minutes,

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He rolls in. I I get in my little white Toyota, I turn the key, it comes out of the driveway just like this. It’s on a quarter tank of gas because I left it on a quarter. And I remember that from last night. And I’m gonna get gas on Monday ’cause I get gas on Mondays. That’s just Wyatt. What did you have for breakfast? A pair of eggs like I always have. And then I learned you actually deviated from that. Now we’re into this rutt of Devin blueberry

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Bagels with peanut butter. All

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Right. Now is this creamy, chunky g what are we, where are we at? I’m, and I’m serious. Don’t act. Probably

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Don’t. He’s the kind of guy that probably can only one kind of peanut butter. What is it?

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If you’ve learned all this about me, the one thing I’ve learned is I sit too close to Jason Cardinal every day.

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’cause if you, if he,

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If he learns something about your life, he’s gonna exploit that. Exactly.

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It’s like a hint. Finding a spot of blood on another hint, another chicken. I’m, I’m gonna pick it until it dies.

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I still wanna know. Crunch or smooth. Well,

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Just regular peanut butter. I don’t what does that

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Mean? Why crunchy or smooth? Not buying it. It’s

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Probably without the, the, without the chunks in it. Yeah. So’s regular peanut butter.

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So j it probably has to be G only. Jif

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Is a good choice. See,

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Jeff’s a good choice,

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Devin. You know, like he probably could buy a western bottles. Hess probably couldn’t buy a great value or western fa family peanut butter.

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No, there’s no way. Gotta be. And then, and and for lunch, where are you gonna find Wyatt? Where are you gonna find Wyatt? Adam? Brad’s Well, because Brad does what? Wyatt. He tells you you’re a good guy. Remember?

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Who wouldn’t want to be told they’re a good guy.

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I go to Brad’s, I get the Bronco burger. If I get the special, I can get a drink. If I do that, Brad says, you’re a good guy. I drive through the drive through, call it a day. I’m back at the office at 1213.

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I love it. That’s right. If you were a mule deer one, you’d be smoked. No problem.

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Probably true. That’s

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Right. Now having said that, we don’t know Devin. We’re hearing Devin’s very similar. Devin.

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Like I I mean you could probably get me in a maverick getting a Dr. Pepper. Maybe only twice a week though. So you’d have to sit

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There while you’ll sit there a minute. Yeah. Chris, Chris is,

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Don’t wanna talk about Chris. Yeah,

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I’ll agree with that. Find him on the winter range, huh?

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No, no. You’d see him one night and think you had him dead on the winter range the next morning. You’d never find him.

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Well he’d be going from Zion over to the ponds. Yeah. Overnight.

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Yeah. And down into Arizona. Of

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Course he’s gonna back into Colorado. He’s gonna drag Maine down Canna. And then he is gonna go ahead and head on out to the Buckskins

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Then and head to Colorado and then he’ll loop back into Nevada somehow.

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Yeah. Yeah. I think he’s heading to Arizona and then Sonora. That’s where he is headed. You guys are outta

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Well, well, COOs, deer, mule, deer. Take your pick. Depends on the day. Never

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Ends anyway. Huh? Never ends around here

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Anyway. I do think just like mule deer, I do think there’s certain times in Chris’s life where he is more vulnerable than others. Comes up with some habits. I

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Haven’t found one of those vulnerable times. Well he

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Owned an eco diesel and had trouble. Okay, tell us about the trouble it had and how often you were at the dealership. And if I’d have sat on the porch of the dealership, I’d have smoked me a 200 inch.

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Well, visits for the truck were eight times. And in between there I was definitely in there three or four times per visit. So.

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And how many months did they have it at? One time at times. Two

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And a half months.

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And this is a brand new,

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Brand new.

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This isn’t a brand new, you know, quote one owner that you found on the, you know, thrifty nickel. He

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Missed the lemon law by one day. One

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Day. Let’s talk about the benefits of this

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Though. I think they did that on purpose though.

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They did it on purpose. Oh yeah. ’cause he filed before. It’s a one year lemon law. They

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Gave it back to me the day after the Lemon law expired. Yeah. And then they claimed, sorry, can’t. It’s one day too late. Wow.

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So Chris goes and has it deleted and it’s the best truck he’s ever owned. No, it’s

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Been great. I’ve put 5,000 miles on

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It since what’s the blessing? What’s the silver lining? Why he was hauling out of a rental truck all fall. I mean,

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Why not? Oh,

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True. Good

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Point. The smokescreen and that, that was funny. Something that Jason knows real well. Come on. A revolving pickup during the hunts to be a smokescreen. Wherever you’re at Nevada, you never know. You never, you’re one to talk about, you know, mixing it up.

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I like to mix it up a little bit.

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Likes to mix it up.

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And every, you know what’s funny is I, I like ’em all. I like the Toyotas, Fords, Chevys,

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Dodge Dodge.

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They’re awesome. The power wagons. They’re, they’re hard to beat. They’re, they’re hard to beat. But anyway, patterns kill deer Patterns crush these fellas right here every day here at the, the coming up

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On a weekend. These guys, hopefully they come back Monday morning.

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We’re just trying to break their patterns so they start using these points. ’cause like anything, we love it. We love to spend everybody’s money and points. We love to convince ’em to buy vehicles. We love ’em to spend their points and, and eat tags like we do. Well that’s

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Now they’re never gonna do it. That’s not the reason we want, we want you to go on good hunts, guys. So That’s right. That’s ply.

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One thing I want to, I wanna bring up a little bit. You guys have spent a lot of time in Nevada. We’re giving away a a Nevada hunt. Bronson, we’re giving away a deer hunt guided by epic. That’s and the Nevada guide draw alert. That’s right. That’s

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Coming out so well. Yeah, we’ll talk about that first real quick. It is always, if you’re gonna go guided in Nevada every year for, for rifle mule deer, it only applies to the rifle mule deer hunts doesn’t apply to other species like the New Mexico draw. They have a drawing every year. Earlier in March this year, the deadline’s March 9th. You have to be, have an agreement with an outfitter. But if you’re gonna hire an outfitter in the event that you were to draw a tag in the regular draw, if you’re gonna hire somebody, anybody absolutely should be applying in the guide. Dry. Your odds are two to four times. We did the math on almost all the units until we quit doing it. So we’re like, it’s always better. It’s always, we never found one. I know there may be some obscure place that there’s, it’s not,

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Somebody will find it.

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Even the two forties, even the two forties better, two twenties late was better even though they’re still bad. But give us a call if you’re interested in that. You know, Devon, Wyatt, Jason, I, any of us can help you get in touch with an outfitter that you can apply with in the outfitter draw of guide, draw as it’s called in Nevada to increase your odds of drawing. You’re gonna find out deadline, like I said, March 9th. You’re gonna find out about two weeks after that if you draw, which is, which is almost two months earlier than the regular Nevada results, the end of May. So helps you plan your fall. You also get the ability, once you draw, you’re essentially already booked with that outfitter. So you don’t then have to beat, you know, you already got your choice of dates, you, you solidify your dates with outfitter. You don’t have to be you. That’s right. Know quite as on top of it in May beating the whole whole, you know that’s right Army that’s trying to book at the same time. That’s right.

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Yeah. If you’re a rifle deer hunter, you should be doing the Nevada guide. Draw the points that you have will will be used in the guide. Draw the same as the regular draw. However, you can only apply for one or the other. You’ll gain a point if you’re unsuccessful. Same thing next year you decide to go on the regular draw. No problem. If you’re an archery muzzle or hunter, then you wanna do the regular draw. You can mix and match rifle, muzzle, archery, no big deal in the, in the regular draw as far as the guide, draw the restricted guide draw like Adam’s talking about rifle only. So anyway, if that matches you call us, we’ll set you up. There’s easy to draw units as well as trophy units so to speak. Some guys get nervous about the few amount of tags in the guide draw.

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However, with drawing odds, there’s two factors. You’ve got number of applicants and you’ve got number of tags. And so even though there may be only one or two tags, in some cases drawing odds are generally better. Alright, with that we are giving away a hunt of course. Wyatt being the awesome outfitter guide actually really guide. And Devin, you spent a ton of time in Nevada as well. You guys are really good friends. I think that’s a lot of what a lot of people don’t know about you guys. You’re great friends and spend a lot of time in the hills in Nevada especially. You’ll be there as well. Helping this guy knock down a giant along with the epic crew here.

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Yep. Gonna be fun. November one to five, we’ve got the landowner tag bought and secured for 2020. Fully paid for as well as the guide services there. You might think we’re all crazy and maybe you don’t wanna spend time with us in the hills, but we’re gonna be amped up, ready to hopefully crush a big deer for somebody. And there’s only two ways, well there’s only really one way to enter, but there’s a couple ways to go about doing it. And we decided to kind of do a, a unique giveaway for our members of Epic Outdoors. You have to be a, a current member of our service and then refer somebody that that joins Epic Outdoors. You can either refer them or say, tell your buddy, hey call, join Epic Outdoors. Give them my name. Let ’em know that I’m the one that referred you when they call and join, put you down as a referral.

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You’ll get a name in it in the entry for the Epic Outdoors Nevada Meal, deer Hunt. If you’ve got some family, friends, coworkers, employees, boss, whatever. And you want to just, you know, buy their Epic Outdoors membership, you can do that. That you know, you’re essentially referring them but you’re paying for it yourself. So those are the ways you can do it. But there’s no way to buy tickets for the Hunt. We wanna do it unique. We wanna do it for members and we wanted to make it a unique way to enter, which is a membership driveway for us. So those are the two ways. So have at it. You gotta tell February 29th to enter. So

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With this time of year, it is the show season. We’re gonna be out at Wild Sheep Foundation, we’re gonna be in Booth 10 24. We got a booth out there. Be awesome to rub shoulders with the guys clients of ours and potential clients as well. And the outfitters out there. We’re also gonna be at the Hunting Expo, the Western Hunting and Conservation Expo. It’ll be February 13th to the 16th. We’re gonna have a booth there as we always have had. We’ve got a great spot. We got the best location in there. It’ll be a great booth. We’re gonna have one of the best deer killed on the strip in our booth. Yeah, we’re gonna have the deer have

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To come see which one it is. We’re not gonna tell you.

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Yeah. Got a deer, a sheep, some big stuff that’s gonna be there as well as us. Of course we wanna visit with you about some of the hunting opportunities, different things you’re thinking about. We get a chance to do seminars as well on Friday.

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Yep, that’s right.

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What are we gonna talk about

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Broon? I don’t know. Maybe we’ll take some input from members that are gonna come. I don’t know. Yeah, because we don’t wanna be a boring, like where we just sit down and say Arizona and we just talk about we don’t want to be. That’s right, that’s right. You know,

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Stuff like that. We

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Don’t wanna be too boring. We want to be entertaining. Wanted to be informative. But you know, maybe, I don’t know Chris, if you can make it work, maybe we’ll have a hot mic there and do a podcast, I believe. We’ll, something like that.

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So anyway, if you want us to cover a few things in this conservation, hunting, conservation, a seminar that we’re gonna do on Friday, maybe hit us up on Instagram. Be epic hunts. You can DMM us. Chris gets all that. Of course Chris makes all of our posts as well. Anyway, yeah, we’ll see you there. Come up with something, put it on there. We’ll try, we’ll do our best to cover it. But we’re gonna cover some stuff there. We’re gonna drop some, some info on there. So we’ll be at

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Booth number 27 44. Again, that’s February 13th to 16th Western Hunt Hunting Conservation Expo. You got a bunch of $5 tags, 200 of ’em you can put in for another chance to win a hunt. We’ll be there looking forward to visiting with you and we’ll be there the whole time. Got a booth there. Like we said, we also on the Saturday, a cool event that we want to give a shout out to is the Full Curl Society Social. They’re gonna be giving away at least 11, it says 11 plus. So that means they’re, who knows, they have announced one or two there on the Saturday. They’re kind of surprise hunts. Add-ons if you will. But 11 hunts for all species of North American wild sheep, desert, rocky stone and doll sheep. And you can apply [email protected]. You can apply there. Now some of those hunts, you don’t have to be present to win. So if you’re not hunting, coming to the Western Hunting Conservation Expo and the Full Curl Society, which is on the Saturday, February four or 15th. If you’re not coming there, you can apply for the hunts that you don’t have to be present to win. If you are gonna be there, they have a booth there as well. You can come there, buy your tickets there, put ’em in the bin. Saturday’s a crazy busy day and they’ll give, make a lot of sheep hunting. Hopes and dreams come true on that Saturday. It’s always kind of fun.

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It’s a blast. And we appreciate their support of us here at Epic Outdoors. We feel a lot of support with these conservation organizations as well as the Game and Fish and some of the Indian reservations as well. We’ve got a lot of good friends in the departments. We’ve got good friends with these hunting expos, wild sheep, different things. And so anyway, we appreciate their support and of course we’re there to support them as well. So that’s kinda what makes the world go around in these hunting, this hunting industry. It’s a small industry and and a lot of people have asked us, how do you make a living in the hunting industry? Lemme just tell you don’t do it. It’s hard. You grind it, it’s

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Hard, you grind. Right. But it’s fun.

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So anyway, you guys got any Nevada stories as we close this thing? There’s a little something.

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Oh, we’d be here for a long time.

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Devin. Devin? Besides losing 14 different transfer cases across the deserts of Nevada.

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I’ve been told I’ve, yeah, I couldn’t tell you. That’d be a lot of stories too.

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Yeah. Not a big population base anywhere in Nevada where we hunt. I mean you got Vegas and Reno and outside of that there’s nobody. And I’m not, I’m not saying that Ely isn’t something, I’m just saying even Ely is little.

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Yeah, I was, I was told once and they told me that mileage was like 90 something, 94 to the AAA place. 94, 4 miles come.

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Tears. Exact same spot, same truck, probably

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Perfectly amazing oiled highways. Right. What did you hit?

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What? How

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Did you break down? First time my steering, I’m coming down this hill to main road. I’m turning right, my truck’s going left,

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Come on. Went out.

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Steering column or something.

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Blocked on the brakes. So you didn’t off the road.

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Rocks and logs to get straight down on the road. And then the next, the next year, same road. I’m telling the hunters the story of this. Come on. I hit it for low to go over what I call the volcano. Just straight up. You’re looking at the sky Seizes transfer case. Seizes us into neutral. Oh

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Come on. Yeah.

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Wow. That’s bad

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Luck. That’s bad luck. Kind of jinx myself. But yeah, that’s one

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I’d probably be reluctant to ply to. I’d

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Leave that unit. Yeah, I wouldn’t come back. Wanna

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Phone a friend? Yeah. Do you have an inReach?

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I do. No, now back then I was, yeah. You know walkie talkie. Copy. Copy. Anybody

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Help? Help anybody? Hello?

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Hello. Hey,

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What are you doing? Where are ya? Yeah, what?

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Who’s this? Well this is John down in the valley. I’m Craig, check and Heifers down there. Who’s this?

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My name’s Devin.

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How are you sir? Can I come help? Can we, can we come pick me up by help you. You

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Have a diesel truck by chance. With a strap.

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Know what a binge is. Come on, come get me.

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What? How about you? You’ve been, you’ve been over there a few different times. Chasing, looking for giant bulls and stumbling onto some giant bucks. Yeah,

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I’ve had some bad luck with trucks as well out there. You know, some unk, a truck outta sight. You

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From anywhere.

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Remember an

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InReach message coming across one time. It’s like, hey, I’m out in the middle of Nevada. I think Josh showed it to me. Wyatt sent it out.

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You were hitting it.

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Pped A frame and the the one truck I’m driving now broke the frame in half after. That’s

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Where you broke the white toy frame. Yeah,

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That’s the one he wants to sell us.

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You guys are the one making the offer.

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Adam wants to buy it. It’s

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A stick shift. And we got, Jason and I got kids. It’s got electric

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Kids coming up electric, it’s got electrician tape holding all the lights on.

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I look at it every day and I’m like, ah, I wish I wouldn’t have said anything about today.

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Today. Adam’s like, I think he’s a little staple on now. What do you think?

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Well I just look out. I’m like, well I open. It makes another year to where my boy can drive it. It’s a stick shift. So, which why? It says

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The frames stronger than ever. Stronger than when it was made at the factory.

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A great job welding that thing to get back together.

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Double a double bead. It will definitely not break in the same spot you guys go look, you spot it won’t break it. It won’t,

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Won’t, will not break the, the same spot I, I was driving behind Wyatt and I’m like, I wonder if that thing crossed, you know how you can tell when they’re kind of going like this down the road sideways? I’m like, no, that was pretty straight. How

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Did you do that? How’d you break a frame? I,

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I don’t know.

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Dunno come on. Few of

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Those big dips I guess. Rocking it. A little bit of flex. Too much Flex maybe. I don’t know. Struck like that.

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Snapped it. What was your in reach message? Come and get me basically. I think it was something can que you guys find somebody to come out here and pick me up.

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Yeah. Basically said I’m gonna try to drive it home and, but I need somebody headed this direction just in case. So.

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I made, made it all the way to the till right there before Minville. Oh yeah.

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That big, big hill. Or before Milford, the big hill right there before Milford. Yeah. Coasted

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In town

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Or data map me right there talking

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Wawa summit.

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Yeah, Wawa summit. Yeah, DETA met me right there and we threw it on the trailer and brought it the rest of the way.

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Wow. Well this is spooking me. Let’s talk about something fun broken down in the middle of nowhere.

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What I now, what I think’s really funny about all this is he’s got a new, a brand new tundra so to speak. Okay. Okay. And he doesn’t even take it out of the driveway for fear that it might get a scratch.

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I don’t know. You

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Saw what happened where I took a lion like a week or so ago. Ripped

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The whole,

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The first time it’s been off road and he’s talking about trading it in the first time.

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That’s not even true

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But my what? Tell, tell him what my boy did the other day. Sean.

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Oh. So we’re sitting up there on a hill and it was Wyoming was it?

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Yeah. Yeah it was having a sandwich. Yeah,

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Having a sandwich right there. Sean rips that door open and his door is my truck.

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Well and I mean your

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Door door’s him. Yes. But it so does your insurance cover that one or

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Who’s got it clean?

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So it didn’t just smash it like Wyatt’s talking about it was a light

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Little Bebe. Bebe dinging. Yes. It

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Was a pretty, pretty hard hit. Jason got a little tense there for a minute.

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Well because I know what he thinks of this truck. He thinks it’s awesome. Wyatt takes so good a care of it. I think that’s cost him a deer this year. ’cause there’s a lot of roads including good gravel roads. He wouldn’t take it on.

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Oh. It’s like, okay, well he’s

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Got a winch that’s never been used. It’s brand new. Okay. Wyatt, speak up.

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The winch might be never been used. Yeah,

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Well I mean that’s, this is a good thing though. That’s kind

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Of Yeah. Worst case scenario kind.

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That’s a good thing. You don’t just use wenches to, you know, skin your deer in the middle of the road or something like that. Pull

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Off. He doesn’t even know if it was, was wired right. He hasn’t even tried

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It. Oh it’s wired right. It’s been tried. It’s, they get you in trouble if you don’t have one.

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Test your equipment.

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That’s right. I need to test mine ’cause I You do it right now it’s for looks but I need to know what works. Yes you do. Before I need it.

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You do

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Anyway. When you, when you try it have why its spool it back in. ’cause it’ll be perfect. I don’t

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But anyways, Sean doors my truck. Jason gets a little tense. He can tell he is a little upset with him

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Walking over there and saying, oh

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You what

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Sean says. Sean turns back and looks at Jason. He says This is why you don’t take kids hunting.

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That’s what he said after he did it. Yeah, after he did it said is Sean, come on. Really? And he goes, that’s why you don’t take kids hunting. Well if that’s his guilt. And I don’t know that he’s even thought another thing about it since.

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No it was a pretty funny moment.

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So, but it didn’t leave a mark I guess too.

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No, no. Everything was just fine. But

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Anyway, I do wanna reiterate, you know we got some of the best on staff here at Epic Outdoors. These guys are very qualified. You spent a lot of time in the, in the hills and killed a lot of big animals. We’re talking big old deer. And of course it’s hard to toot your own horn but I can do it for you. Made me jealous a couple of times. Gotta pro I, I gotta admit so

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Well and it’s, even though they’re new to Epic outdoors that you know, we hope that as you get to know them, call consult with them either in application strategy or looking for hunts of some kind or booking an outfitter that you need after you draw tag, you’re gonna find out pretty quick. These guys are pretty serious about what they do. We wouldn’t have hired ’em if they weren’t and glad they’re on board with us. We’ve brought ’em on board here, you know, Wyatt earlier last year and then Devin here more recently in the last few months. So we’re excited to have ’em on board. This is all to continue to add benefits for our members and make sure we can make customer service for our members. You know, at the forefront of everything. If we build a membership and have a good membership base, but we don’t have enough great consultants to meet the needs of those. Whether it be for phone calls or you know, license, application strategy or, or doing the research on outfitters and fine hunts for ’em. We’re not doing our job if we can’t service those members. So appreciate your support of us. Can consider joining Epic outdoors or getting a member to join Epic Outdoors like we talked about and get in for the, the Nevada Deer hunt. We have other hunts available as well. You can check it all [email protected]. Anything else you wanna give a shout out to Carter?

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Man, the only thing I was thinking about, so I spent some time with sheep hunting in Nevada. Of course you did too. We spent a ton of time and down there. It was kind of tough this year with all the rain and whatnot. Had the sheep spread out.

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Usually go to Nevada. Nevada to sit in a RERE and have nice warm Yeah. Weather after Utah’s. That’s right. I’ve been freezing to death. I went down there and continued. We froze

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To death. To freeze to death. Yeah. Yeah. Jeff

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And I had, Jeff and I had to build a fire.

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Oh yeah. He was in four inches of snow on desert sheep.

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We hiked up on this ridge and all of a sudden we’re in snow and it socked in and we about froze the test

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And the brush is, you know, flocked white. Oh yeah. So you’re walking through it in sheep hunting clothing. Right. It’s just wicking all over everything. ’cause you’re not wearing rain gear bottoms. It’s not raining. No,

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No. Thankfully

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Jeff had some pyro putty. Yeah. From a good buddy chest in it. Phone scope or he wouldn’t have made it out alive

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Yeah. You know

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What I’m saying? He was set on building a fire and it

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And it took him a minute but without that was stuff was soaking wet and that

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It rained for like two, three days straight.

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Yeah. I looked around for dry stuff for probably half hour and didn’t find anything. So we just lit the wet stuff on fire with the pyro putty.

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Wow. So anyway, smoked it dry buddy Buddy chest Davis there does a good job there at phone scope. He’s also got pyro putty that he’s working with. He owns the company and amazing products. Go check it [email protected] Anyway. Does that, he also does cooler trays. He keeps your crap up out of the water. Does a good job. Pretty proud of him. He’s got a lot going on for him. What were you gonna say, Dylan? Pyro. Putty. No.

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Oh I was telling Chris you just let up some cow patties. No, there

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Were no desert cow patties

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There. I’m going cheap hunting tomorrow. It’s gonna be cold.

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Anybody that shed hunts in a car with a couple of chicks to keep him warm at night over in the middle of Colorado,

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Get buy in about anything. Chris,

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Chris has got some amazing car stories. Chris, what do you think the best car is? And then the times.

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You remember the times. Remember that old tundra, whatever you bought from Jason.

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That was, that was my favorite car. You,

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You slept in the cab of that thing All

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The time.

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All the time over there in Colorado. In the front cab. I dunno Chris, you’re not really little dude. You’re six foot or whatever. I don’t know what you are. And about six. That had to be a terrible few nights. It

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Wasn’t bad. I remember one year I actually, I spent 18 nights over there.

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I had

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Had a specific deer I was hunting and I he slept in the truck. I actually slept in the back the

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Bed. But in third season season

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It’s the back of the cab,

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The access cabs.

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So I put a four inch foam pad in the back. Nowadays I’d just use like a canvas cutter. But it was the same type of thing where it was just a four inch foam pad thrown out in the back seat. And

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I, but I remember when it got 18 nights, but I remember when it got cold, you it got really bitter. So then you could just crank the hand on. Yeah,

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Just start the truck up once or twice every night. I wanna

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Circle back to a comment you made. Oh

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I bought a truck from Jason. Yes. And it was the Favoritest truck I’ve ever had.

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It was that thing. I loved it.

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Then one of it,

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It was a tundra. It was just like

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2000 und

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Little white tundra had a spotlight on the

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Top with the V eight, V

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Eight and 2000 tundra.

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Yeah. It was awesome. I thought it was wore out when I sold it to him. I felt guilty. I actually gave him 500 bucks back. I think I sold it to you for five and you traded it in 150,000 miles later for 4,500 bucks. And the funny thing is, is the last night that he was with the truck, he slept in it. I did at the dealership parking lot.

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That’s funny. I did sleep in it the last night. I had it. Did

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You, did you get emotional when you left it A little bit?

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No. I mean I turned around and looked at back at it. But you gave it a,

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He make sure it was in part because it didn’t have brakes. It didn’t have brakes. It needed

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Rotors. It burned into the rotors. The reason I, that’s

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The reason I needed ball joints.

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The reason I had it up there basically was it was due for about everything. Yeah. Rotors were gone. He says

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They gave me 4,500 bucks. I’m like, you got a heck of a deal. And he goes, yeah, they could have charged me double for the new truck. I wouldn’t have cared ’cause I got 4,500 for the

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Hundred 50,000 miles. For 500 bucks. Yeah.

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Well it had dang near 300,000. I I gave it to him. Well sold it to him. 40 140 something thousand. 40,000.

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And I, when I took took it back, I had a a

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2, 2 93.

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Same treading, same engine, same transfer case. Same engine. You got,

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You got your 500 bucks.

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Yeah. The only engine problem I ever had was a coil went out and it was $90 and fixed it.

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I feel like he took advantage of me.

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You should have sold it for 10 grand because at least

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Hey, but the, the, the ball joints, they had issues. Yeah. The ball

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Joint joints had some issues

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Three times.

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Yeah. That’s kind of why I sent it down the wrong.

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I know.

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It had a leveling kit just never was Yeah. Level. I don’t know. Yeah. Yeah. Something wasn’t quite right. It’s always, always at level. Now why it’s trying to sell us a broken old frame down truck. It’s got what, 250, 300,000 miles odometer quit working 14 months ago. Not true.

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Not true. But I’m not trying to sell it. You guys are the ones that keep bringing it up. I’ve got a proposal. I told Arch Weld. I’m like, I would never sell it to a friend. I’ve got a proposal.

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However, however I’ve sell to my boss. I’ve got a

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Proposal. What if as, ’cause I’ve got a son coming up and Jason does too. That’re about the same age. And this day and age, you want your, you still want to teach your kids how to drive a stick shift. ’cause it’s like a dying talent. Right. Stick. It’s hard to find. Hard to find. Jeez. That’s really what we’re after. It’s a stick. And we want a little truck that our boys can learn how to drive a stick. And why don’t we rent it for two months? Two months

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Each. I’ll take two months. Adam takes two months and

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We, and we’ll sign it. We’ll sign something. ’cause the likely thing, ’cause it’s happened to me with my oldest daughter. I had a forerunner with it that was a stick. And I kept it just so that she could learn how to drive it. But after the first day, first week at school, she drove it, popped outta gear. She didn’t put the emergency brake on. And, and I get a call from the cops and it’s down the street in someone’s front yard. It popped outta gear, ran down the street, popped the curb, and it’s sitting in someone’s yard and didn’t hit a thing. Thankfully. Okay. So that was the first thing I said, honey, you gotta be careful. Pulled, pulled the breakout. Right. Two weeks later she burned the clutch outta that thing. Trying to drive the stick.

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Wait till we sign the documents and rent the car first.

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I was going to say that. I would probably even be willing to say, you know, work out a monthly rate for rental and if the clutch goes out that you know,

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Then that’s on us. It’s on us. But if the clutch is fine, it’s you. It’s you get it

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That’s right. And you’re gonna, we’ll give you just

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A monthly rental. It’s just free money. It’s paid off money. I’ll

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Give you 500. Adam, I’ll give you 500. We’ll call a day.

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We’ll do, during hunting season you’ll be drying your, your, you’ll be driving your tundra. That thing will be sitting in the driveway doing nothing. You might as well make, you know, 500.

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We’ll give you half what it’s worth. A thousand bucks,

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500 bucks a month for two months. 500 hundred bucks for two months. Let us drive it. Who knows what’s happen to it. Drive, let us drive it. Gonna have teenage 16 year old boys using it. But

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Does everyone need to hear to us and negotiate this deal here?

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Just, I’m just given you an option. You said you

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Wouldn’t sell it. Sell it. I’ll just take one of Jason’s seven trucks.

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You just, there are no sticks. There’s

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No sticks. But I’ll be driving one. That’s not a stick. It’s hard to text and drive with a stick and eat a burger at the same time. That’s right.

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I’ve done. So you said you I sell that. It’s

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Not as Easy Burger.

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I’m just trying to find

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Burger. Brads, I’m just telling you. I’m just telling. He’s already talking about Brad’s, he’s already got tomorrow’s plan lined out. I got it.

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Just, wow.

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Just the solution. You said you wouldn’t sell it to a friend. So I, I’m willing to give you 500 a bucks a month. I’ll do a month. Jason does a month. Kids learn how to drive a strict, everybody’s happy. Then they can drive automatics. But at least they’ve learned the mechanics of that. How

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How many months? Two. Just

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Two months.

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We’re talking

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Years down the road.

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That’s like eight months to, to 10 months from now.

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Who’s to say it’ll still be around

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My boy. I hope he’s

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The truck.

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Oh, you don’t do anything fast wise. Don’t,

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Yeah, I’m pretty sure you’ll have that truck five

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Years from now. Why? It’s, why it’s been hinting. He’ll sell it. I’m thinking two years from now it’s gonna be downhill. He, he

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Did seriously tell me the other day. He said, you know, so and so wanted to buy this truck. Everybody he would, he won’t sell it to a friend.

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One? Who de he offered me more than I’d pay for it.

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Bs? Yeah. How much after

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He blew up his car for like the third time I think. Yep. He offered me five

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Grand. Is it a firm offer?

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Five grand. Five grand.

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How long ago is this for?

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What is it? What year is it?

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It’s a 99

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Toy. How long ago did he offer that? Two years ago.

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No, this has been what, within the last year? Yeah.

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Is he du is he stupid? Well,

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I mean I wouldn’t sell it to him ’cause obviously I felt like I was Hey.

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Cheating him. Screwing him.

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Yeah, exactly.

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B you’re gonna be out towing him.

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Yeah. Maybe I’ll just go trade it in. Like Chris, it seems like he’d get better there and you don’t have to worry about selling it. Oh yeah.

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The same guy that was gonna come get you in the desert offered to buy the truck.

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Yeah, exactly. That’s

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So interesting. He deserves what he’s offering.

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He knows the frame. He knows the

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Frame Deserves. Yes. Sell it. He rescued me.

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I would take, okay,

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The truck. I would take

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That’s a good deal. You get rid of the truck.

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Sell. I’ll take 50 benches and call it a day. Yes,

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Take it, take it, sell it and move on.

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You guys aren’t acting like this truck doesn’t get me from

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The house to work

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Every day. It got, has it got a rebuilt title? No.

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Know what, probably should. ’cause breaking the frame is probably,

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It probably should have been totaled. ’cause in, you know, breaking the frame is total that truck.

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Take the money Jason and I’ll find a stick somewhere else. But you better take that deal. That’s smart.

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So the deal’s gone now. I I couldn’t do it. Well

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Okay. Sell it to me for 3,500 bucks. I’ll sell it to him for five. I have no problems. Yeah,

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It, it’d end up in the same place, but it’d be on you now I guess. That’s right. Yeah.

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