Hunting Grizzly in Alaska. Epic Hunt Giveaway 2020. In this episode we talk with Chris Collville who won the Alaska Interior Grizzly hunt in our last Epic Hunt Giveaway. Chris Recently returned from an amazing hunt with outfitter Lance Kronberger. Our summer membership drive/hunt giveaway ends Friday June 19th at Midnight. Were giving away 6 world class hunts and also a $500 bonus optics package for those who spend $500. With the COVID era odds will be better than ever so get entered for a chance to win the hunt of a lifetime.

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If you think you’re ready to hunt in Alaska, tough enough, mentally prepared, you’re not.

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We got until Friday midnight to be able to apply for this membership drive

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June 19th.

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Anything to do with Western big Games?

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Welcome to the Epic Outdoors Podcast, powered by Under

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Armour. Hey everybody. Jason Carter, Adam Bronson, John Peterson here with us today. How you doing, John? I’m barely here.

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Whoa, really? You look

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Great. I don’t know. We’ll see. I heard through the grapevine. You’ve been cleansing. I’ve got this. I don’t know. My wife’s got some full body cleanse or something. She’s got me on. So before it starts, she’s like, Hey, we’re gonna do this. And I, I’ll eat anything. Just put it in front of me. I’m good. So that’s what I tell her. Then she gives me this giant vessel of something this morning vessel. And I opened it up and I’m like, this is nasty.

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Did you ask for Yeah. Trust.

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So then I trust your wife. Like what the heck is in this? And she said, it’s just grapefruit juice and carrots. And it was thick, thick, thick. Like a slushie, but a thick slushy.

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I want a gag. No sugar.

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It was so bad. I got a Jen story. So she, you guys remembered, I don’t know if you remember this, but you invited us over for dinner once and you thought you were gonna, you told us you were feeding us chicken. Yes. And I first, first taste, I’m like, that’s not chicken. It’s not chicken. It’s mushy. And then Jen got this grin and I said, what is that? And it turned out it was your pet rabbits. I now pet is, is two kids named them. They fed ’em. And they were odd colors, John. They were not, we were rabbit farming. They were big. They were big at the time. Fluffy, beautiful pets. And you guys ate ’em, ate your pets. And I was like, let’s cross. If you’ve got 25 or more at a time, they’re not pets. They’re, and you’re

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Soon have, you’ll soon to have a hundred.

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Adam, have you ever seen that picture of John and Carter? Is it John and Carter? Your bro? Your boy Carter. It’s Tyler or Tyler with the ax and chickens, huh? No, it’s a huge Turkey. Or Turkey, yeah. Oh yeah. It’s just, you named one year Thanksgiving and you named one Christmas year. Yeah. Did. Huh? You named them. You named them. They were named Thanksgiving and Christmas.

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That’s where food comes from. So I like it. I, I really do.

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Way to teach your kids where food comes. I like

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It. I do. They’re we’re removed. That’s where we all came from. We all had, well not we ancestors. We all had clubs and rocks at some point. And that’s how we killed their food. John’s

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Going back to clubs and rocks. We went to, we went through a phase where I thought, ah, it’s a good deal. The kids know where their food comes from. So we raised rabbits and chickens and all that. We did. I took Tyler on his first deer hunt and I’m like, are you gonna be okay? Skinning this, you know, and, and processing. And he’s like, dad, you made me,

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You made me kill our pet. Kill my

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Pets. Pets. That’s true, John. And then we feed to our friends at six years old

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And we had him over for a friend. Barbecue. This

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No big deal.

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We told Jason it was a chicken from the store and he was eating rabbit. He was eating Frankie. I mean, geez,

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This reminds me, I, but we had a scout camp one summer and it was, remember there’s like the wilderness survival merit badge. And you have to, you have to go out and build a shelter, find food, blah, blah, blah. Right? And you have to, you know, get through a night, stay overnight and No, you remember,

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Keep going. Oh yeah, keep going.

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So we thought, and it was kind of in the spirit of what John talked about, let’s get these kids to figure out where food comes from, how you are gonna survive if you need to. Right. You can’t kill pine hens ’cause it’s Junior July and it’s outta seasons. Right. So you’re not gonna do that. So we, we brought up four or five chickens live chickens up onto the mountain. And it was, we were into our, started our hike and we had ’em in, in a, like a pet carrier out part on the hike. And it was like, now’s the point of the, that we’re, we gotta hunt food for dinner and this what we’re gonna do. And we open it and they just took off running and they had to catch ’em. And like, we’re not kidding. This is your dinner tonight. This is it. We’re not, we’re not even joking. And they freaking, you wanna see the barbarian come out in teenage boys? I mean, but they killed them. And we plucked them, cleaned them, cooked them. A couple of ’em had eggs. We fried them. It was, I, that’s where food comes from. And, but some of the moms, when they got home and told they weren’t happy with us, no on onto more serious note. But that is serious because John, I feel for your bowels right now. But keep drinking water. You’ve gone through a bunch today. I’ve watched. But what else are we gonna talk about today? We are kind of an exciting week. Membership drive, deadline week, the

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Home stretch. Yeah.

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We had a home stretch last week when we got to the Arizona sheep and deer deadline that June 9th. June 10th was, felt like a holiday, but it was a Wednesday. So holidays never fall on Wednesdays. But it felt like,

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But we celebrated,

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We did. It was a, it was a long, it’s a long push. A lot of stick.

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We even celebrated and took Friday off, which was the worst decision of our business career.

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I don’t know if it was, it was busy. It was busy. We had a lot of mis missed calls. But it was, it was due to the office staff that just really put in a lot of, lot of grinding hours, time, getting applications in, taking care, you know, with the magazines and then applications. It was, we decided to make that executive decision. So

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We did. And my phone showed a hundred missed calls. How many your show? 102.

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Anyway, but we caught up. That’s Tuesday.

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So we, oh, we caught up everybody. Please leave messages if we’re not here

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Anyway. So yeah, let, let’s go over a little bit, I guess about if you have procrastinated, if you’ve listened to our podcast for months or years on end and just not ever joined Epic Outdoors, maybe here’s another incentive. Maybe it’s time for to do it. There are member benefits that you get. We’ve talked about them a lot on the podcast. And Mo most notably we’ll talk about the magazine. Nine issues a year. It’s dedicated to first six issues of the year, our monthly. And they break down in detail the Western States applications from that year perspective, we, we don’t go to print with a year old information. We get current information research, put it in there from drawing odds, Harvard Statistics and all the likes. But in addition to the magazine, you get ability to call and consult with us and making your application plans and strategy.

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I think a lot of people maybe forget about that or undervalue that. And we’re here, we take, that’s all we do. We take calls all day, helping people use points in the best way. We think if, you know, we had the similar situation, landowner tags. We sell optics, optics and trail cameras, stealth cam dealers, optic dealers for Zes vortex, like Swarovski and all of those. We have great deals for our members. We have a member experience program. If you draw a tag, you want to talk with other members that have been there, done that. If we personally haven’t, we’ve got that as a member benefit. A lot of member benefits. We’ve got online tools from drawing odds map planning, planning your hunts online, a lot of different tools on there. All that included for the a hundred dollars membership a year. And why we’re bringing this up is if you join now or refer somebody who joins before this Friday night at midnight, which is June 19th, you get an entry into our summer membership drive giveaway.

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We’ve got a bunch of great hunts. Maybe we’ll just go through those six hunts right now, just a little bit. Freshen up your mind. And if you already a member of Epic Outdoors and all of your hunting buddies, you’ve already referred ’em and they’re all members, maybe you just decide you wanna buy some entries through tickets. We got ticket packages that you can do that through. Again, the deadline being June 19th at midnight. So where do you wanna start? Do you want us to kick that off the top on Alaska doll sheep or what do you got to add to that?

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Nothing. You covered it all.

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You crushed it. No, it’s good. I think the drawing ons are better than never. Literally. There’s no question that we don’t, we’re not out there trying to lie about it. It’s true. So anyway, it’s a great time to, to play this particular membership drive. That’s absolutely true. First hunt we’ve got here is Alaska Dell sheep with Jonah’s Alaskan Outfitters, August 18th to the 21st of 2021. So even though Alaska’s open, by the way, we’re gonna maybe even call a guy that went there just barely off of our hunt. One of our hunt winners. But, but anyway, we did schedule this one for 2021. Awesome hunt. One of the best up there. Jonah’s a super good guy, good friend, great hunter, and doing an incredible job out there in the central Brooks range of Alaska. Guys fly up there, they end up go basing out of cold foot Alaska. It’s a little spot on the Alaska on that pipeline road out of Fairbanks. And so anyway, great opportunity to kill a great rim. Super good guy. One of the best up there. So

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When I was putting together the, the publication and putting together this, this hunt, there were so many giant

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Awesome dolls

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To choose from.

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I, I had a hard time

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’cause there were so many big, big, big dolls.

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Yeah, Jonah’s great. And like Jason said, this is for 2021 Hunt booked August, August 18th, I believe. 2021. Got plenty of time to plan for it. Like you alluded though, let’s maybe call a previous winner, not specifically of Jonas Hunt because we’ve got hunt winners going up there, I believe this year. But we had a, a hunt winner, Chris Coleville from Texas that drew a membership drive hunt with us around the 1st of March. So at the winter end, end of the winter membership drive, he drew an interior grizzly hunt with Lance Kronberg for your freelance outdoor adventures. And for a lot of the spring it was looking like, oh, am I even being gonna be able to go there? But due to some of the covid restrictions lifting, he was able to go, let’s give him a call. I know he just got back. Find out how that hunt went.

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Chris. Adam Bronson, Jason Carter. Hey John Peterson. Hey, how are you? Hey, how, how are you doing today?

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I’m good.

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Well, hey, we teed up just a little bit. We’re talking, doing a podcast about our epic membership drive hunts that we’re ending this this week here for this current drive and teed it up a little bit of you being a past winner and just got back from what looked to be an awesome hunt up there with Lance Romberger Freelance Outdoor adventures in Alaska. So tell us a little bit about that. We teed it up also. It looked for quite a while in this spring with the, with what’s going on in the world that you weren’t gonna be able to go. So maybe, maybe talk about that and what it was like to get into Alaska as far as any restrictions that you ran into. And, and then we’ll get into your hunt just a little bit.

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Alright. Happy to do that. And thanks again for what you all put together. And I was fortunate to win and it was, I, I say this about a lot of my hunts, but it was a hunt of a lifetime. And I will compliment Lance. First of all, he, he was very professional in so many ways and ran such a tight organization. There was communication throughout the spring before the virus shut down. There was communication during the virus shut down. And, and then we actually had to, or he actually had to do some scrambling to keep the hop together when it came to be that they were gonna open on June 1st, which is what my hunt date was. So for example, he had five hunters scheduled for the June 1st hunt, and we had all booked flights to Anchorage and then spend the night fly from Anchorage to Clete on a commercial airline that went bankrupt.

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Wow. And because of the, because of the Alaska quarantine rules, we actually were not supposed to spend a night in Anchorage. So Lance and, and I guess his wife Nikki, probably went to work and determined that if we could fly to Seattle, spend the night and then catch a, a morning flight from Seattle to Anchorage. Wow. And they would meet us directly at the airport and we would go directly to an F B O to fly a charter flight that they had booked. Wow. And so we never, we never put our head down in Alaska and, and became subject to the 14 day quarantine rule until we were actually in camp in cle. So, wow.

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There you go. That’s good, good way to do it. I know there’s a lot of guys thinking about that kind of thing and they, a lot of guys have just given up assuming there’s a, you know, the 14 day restriction no matter what.

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Yeah. So it was a great workaround by him and his team. And I, I truly concluded up until a week before I was supposed to leave for my hunt that it just wasn’t going to happen. And when Lance called and said, we’ve got to go through this workaround, and we talked through it, it came together, the other, the other elements of it. So, you know, I had to eat my airfare on that airline that went bankrupt for a reservation I had from Anchorage to Clete. We also could not go into Clete because there’s a, there was a town barrier there. So when we flew to Clete, we had to stay on the runway there while the, so the charter plane, which is a big plane, flew back and then, and then the, the guy from flying Wild Alaska is actually who they used to take people into camp. So he was an interesting fellow. Jim Tweedle, I don’t know if you’ve ever seen that show. Yeah.

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Watched it on tv. Yeah.

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Yep. And Ferno was his wife, Inferno was in the, in the runway with us. So the smaller plane that he flies came in and, and took us from there to camp. So we were on the runway and had our first rainstorm thunderstorm of the, of the, the trip, which is the first of many coming hit us. But, but they got us out in the field. I originally was flying United Airlines. They had, I had reservations booked. They completely canceled my flight and I had to scrambled a rebook through Alaska. Air, air travel on Alaska Air was actually pretty, pretty okay. It, we had to wear a mask and on the flight to Seattle you got one bottle of water and one beer. And then from Seattle to Anchorage the next day, one bottle of water and one beer because they didn’t want the flight attendants interacting, you know, too, too much with the passengers. And the passengers were seated every other seat. And it was, it wasn’t really a, a concern of mine going through that process to getting to Anchorage that I was taking the real rifts there. It was, it was well run the hotel stayed in Seattle right next to the airport. They were obviously their restaurant was shut down and, and they were very virus cautious. But I felt comfortable there. So I got to Alaska ready to hunt, you know, thrilled to Awesome. Thrilled, thrilled that it was gonna happen. So.

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Well you made it to Clete and then you got flown out. Tell us about your hunt, I guess. Sounds like that’s as I know, as good as you could have hoped to get, get there given everything you had to jump through to get there. And then how did it go from there?

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Alright, so I met a, they, they assigned me to a guide who was already in the location where our camp was and had our tent set up. And his name was Kai Wolf, a great young kid. He’s, I think he turned 24 yesterday and he’s been doing this four or five years. So camp was set up, we landed on top of the tundra on top of a little hillside and, and dumped out there. And there there was some communication from Lance. A lot of Lance’s communication leading up to the hunt was, if you think you’re ready to hunt in Alaska, you know, tough enough, mentally prepared, you’re not, I will say I’ve done, I’ve hunted in Alaska a lot. This turned out to be a very mentally challenging and been frankly a very physically challenging hunt. And a lot, the elements were a lot more severe than I expected. And maybe I, maybe I underestimated because I thought, well gee, you know, it’s June in Alaska.

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Yeah, nice summer everywhere. Sunshine. And we’re gonna sit there with our boots off and just glass bears froing.

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That’s exactly right.

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Last year, last year we sent a guy and one of Lance’s guides got attacked up there. Remember? Did Lance tell you about it? Yeah,

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Yeah. Well he, that guide is actually back hunting with Lance and was flew in on my flight from Seattle to Anchorage and then flew with us on the charter. He, he didn’t turn out to be my guide, but I heard that story from him first

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Firsthand. I heard it was crazy. Yeah, it was. Did he, did he tell you? I mean, I heard it was crazy.

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Yeah. So his hunter wounded a bear and they think he got shot it and, and it ran into the bush. And so he had to go into the bush with his rifle and he said it was so thick in there he couldn’t put his rifle on off safety ’cause he was afraid an alder branch would cause it to fire. So he had it on safety and the hunter’s sitting up on the bluff watching into the brush where the bear went probably 150 yards. And he’s working through the brush and the bear charges him and he pulls up the fire just instinctively from 20 yards. And his gun didn’t go because it was on safety. By the time he looked and put it on safety and got ready to fire, the bear was on him. So he shoved his rifle into the bear’s mouth and, and fell down and went into a fetal, an upside down fetal position. And the bear tossed the rifle aside and was on his clawing and chewing on his neck and in the back of his arms while he was trying to cover his head. And Hunter starts shooting and Oh,

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And you got a loaded gun off safety right next rolling around on like,

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You got a hunter that made a not perfect shot now shooting at the bear that’s on you.

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That’s on him, right.

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And, and the guide, I’ll think of his name in a minute, but the guide said, I could hear the concussion of the bullets hitting the ground around us. He said, I would’ve been perfectly happy if that bullet had just hit me and because

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He thought I’m gonna, I’m dying in a slow, painful death right now.

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Yeah. This is, this is gonna the other, and I think really even more compelling part of that story, well the rescue is pretty dramatic, but that’s a long story. They ended up getting a coast guard and they flew in Black Hawk helicopters, all that’s pretty neat. But here’s the part of the story that I was just fascinated by was as he went down to the ground and the bear was on him, he hit s o s on his inReach.

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Come on.

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Really? And what happened is, as as he described it, s o s goes to a call center. The call center calls your emergency contact to verify

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His emergency contact was his wife. So they’re in the middle of the night, although it’s 24 hour son up there, his wife gets a call and says, we’ve got s o s contact from your husband. He must be in emergency course. She, she’s in the, she’s in Idaho. She has no idea what’s going on. And I could just imagine, I I told people, I said, you know, if my wife got that call Yeah. She would’ve like, it’s like the wicked witch of the West in Wizard of Arts. She

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Just melted into a pool of

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A great takeaway is to put your hunting buddy. Yes. I was just gonna say your emergency call, I’m

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Gonna go into my inReach and I’m taking my wife out of that and I’m gonna put my brother or you Jason. Yeah. And I’ll put me back vice versa. Let’s don’t have our wipes. Okay. That’s what I’ve learned. Okay.

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Okay. I’m gonna, I’m putting somebody else. Anyway. Crazy story. So yeah, so when Bronson said bears frolicking, that just came to mind. I I’m not, see it’s frolicking at times. I don’t know. Yeah.

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So when you say it was a mentally, I mean, you’re a, it’s a glassing, you’re spot in stock. This is not, you know, elk hunting where stuff’s screaming. You’re, you’re sitting on high points all day long just g glassing. Right. It’s meant you gotta just mentally say, Hey, we’re minutes away from something cresting of our ridge and we’re gonna make a move or Yeah. Or we gotta move another two miles to the next glassing point or whatever.

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That’s pretty much right. My guide might suggest if you talk to him, that I could have done more glassing than I did.

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Oh yeah.

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But yeah, so we, the, the typical day was you up at eight, you leave the tent at nine and you’re carrying, you know, basically a full frame pack. You know, not, not a, not a not with tent and, and all of that, but you’ve gotta take all kinds of weather gear, you’ve gotta take kind all kinds of warm gear. You gotta take food and beverage for the day. And, and you, you go to you, you hike and we had a really great siding mound or hill or mountain that you climbed to. It was a pretty hard hike and it was probably a mile and a half hike would take us about an hour in the morning. The very last part of it was sort of four touch points, you know, hand in hand in, and then you get to the top and you’re gonna be there for 14, 16 hours. Yeah. And it’s a beautiful country. It’s a beautiful country. But there is absolutely nothing to see. There’s no

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I, until

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You see

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A bear, it’s beautiful. But I’m not looking at anything. Is that what I Exactly, that’s a good description.

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I mean there, there are, there are no animals there. You know, there’s no caribou, there’s no moose, there’s no elk, there’s no eagles, there’s no cows. And I didn’t expect to see cows. But I mean, you are literally

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There, you have distractions in the lower 48. You have distractions, squirrels, you have wild horses in Nevada. You have something. Yeah, exactly.

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I was up there when I was brown bear hunting and I’ve done that once or twice. But, you know, it’s, it was a death zone. Everything we saw was like bones. It was like, it wasn’t, there was, it was gloomy, hey, it was gloomy and there was nothing to see, but it was pretty same kind of thing. And it was just like bones. It was like bears and bones. Bears and bones. I mean. Exactly. It was, all right, so tell us

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And tell and then, but I want to emphasize in that 14 or 16 hours that you’re sitting there and, and your guy’s glassing all the time and he’s making subtle hands that you should be ing more like,

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Like, like we usually do better when clients help us out. Exactly. Focus,

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You know,

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I hope you didn’t have to pay a baggage fee for those binoculars.

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By the way, I’ve been in reaching my wife. She’s doing well. The business is doing good. Would you, like, you didn’t reach any of your friends while you’re glassing for us. Right, right.

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And, and then, but here’s the part that sort of surprised me was it gets cold and then the wind starts blowing 30 miles an hour and you’re on the most exposed point in the whole, you know, five, I mean we could see the other, one of the other campers tents or one of the other hunter’s tents from seven, eight miles away. ’cause we are at the very top of this knob. And then the mosquitoes come and then a thunderstorm comes with hail and sometimes it’s all of that. And so it’s, so

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It’s sounds like

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Anything but nice June weather

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Is what anything but nice June weather. Yeah. Although there are, there were, it changed every hour. And that’s Alaska. So you’re, you’re putting on and off rain clothes, you’re trying to get out of the hailstorm and you’re looking at your tent that’s a mile away and saying, you know, God dang, we could sure write this out in there. And, but Lance and his team doesn’t do that.

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Well if you add that to the, the absence of glassing, you might put him over the top. Yeah,

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Exactly. So we did that, we did that four or five days and we saw the same group of, of sows with cubs and, and we did see one bear and went on a really rapid run off the mountain to another glassing point. And somehow we both saw a bear that we were convinced was a board. And when we got there, it was a beautiful sow. And so we stayed on her thinking they had just swapped positions but gave up and we didn’t wanna leave our scent down. Yeah. There. So we had to climb back up that mountain and, and resumed watching and that was it. And, and like you said, it’s day, I mean it’s hour after hour after hour. And then we, we were, he said, I really need you to glass between nine and midnight.

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Exactly. I mean, that’s not a hint. In the last 23 hours I’ve glass 23 hours and I need a one, I need one to three hour break. I need a half hour nap. Could you possibly help me with that? Exactly. So some funny crap,

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The, you know, of course the way it worked out is you can guess who saw the bear me. Wow.

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And it was right at nine o’clock and he’s glassing backwards. I’m glassing forward and you know, there’s a big bear, you know, crossing from right to left. So I turn around and yell, bear, bear at him. And he grabs his ox and says, where? And I said, well out there, you know, because I, I was, I so wanted him to see it and see if it is what we were gonna go after that I didn’t, I didn’t pick a

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Landmark or something. Yeah.

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I didn’t pick a landmark look at, but he was, he was crossing the across, so he saw it and he said, yeah, we gotta go, but I mean we gotta really go and you’re gonna have to keep up and we’re gonna have to see if we intersect him. And I said, look, I I I can keep up, I promise you that. And so we peeled off real quickly. We peeled off our heavy rain gear, peeled off, took out stove and the things we were having for hot cider on the mountain and, and went and it took us about, and we actually went to the exact same point where we had gone on the stock for the, for the sow that turned out to be a sow. And we were going to try to get to that knob and just hope he had hung up somewhere and, and regroup from there.

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And we’re about 500 yards from that knob. And I’m trailing Kai, you know, by 15 or 20 yards. He’s, he’s, he’s gonna go faster than I am, even though I was going as fast as I could. And I look up and the bear had crossed onto this side of the knob. So I’m trying to yell at Kai to stop and see the bear. And he does. And so then it became, it became a spot in stock at that point. So I I, the, the wind was crossing and fortunately it should have been right to him, but it was, I think it was crossing just enough where it mis him. I crawled up on hands and knees to where Kai was and then we were, he, he arranged it at 580 yards and I got my rifle right. I did not take a 580 yard shot, I promise.

00:29:13:17 –> 00:30:26:00
But he said, we gotta wait for him to make a move and then we’ll make a move. And so just be ready. Leave your pack here, leave everything here. It’s, it’s, it’s shooting time from this point forward. And after, I don’t know, five, 10 minutes, the bear kind of just got up and, and started wandering again off to his left and kind of got in an area where he couldn’t really see us moving. So we moved diagonally and he got in front of us, but we had closed the distance and kind of quartered. And, and, and Kai said, I’m gonna put my pack up. Are you comfortable shooting off the pack? And fortunately, I, you know, I’m not, not an amateur and shooting, but I said, yeah, I can do that. And he said, how long shot can you take? I said, I can take a 300 yard shot. I’m, I’m confident of that. And so we, we sort of cut him off and he stopped and turned sideways, you know, broadside and, and he said, I said, how far is it? And I’m getting on the pack. And he, he said, it’s two 30 and I dialed my scope to two 30 and shot and fricking fell over. That

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Was it.

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Yeah, it was it and it was nine 30. Geez.

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Wow. Wow. And you didn’t have any mulling experience. There was nothing exciting.

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No thick brush alders over your head.

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No, none of that.

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None of that going in after a wounded bear.

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It was, it was, it was. And the weather cleared. So we got some great pictures. And the pictures

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Are fantastic.

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Yeah. It is a gorgeous

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Bear. Your bears the really blonde colored with the dark legs striking contra beautiful bear epitome,

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Incredible beautiful bear material.

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And he field measured eight four squared, which is pretty huge as I understand. And he was le he was one inch or less short of being a book bear. He was

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Great bear. And then

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The, the rest of the rest of the trip is, you guys know how it takes four or five hours once the pitcher taking’s done to

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Get it out to

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Scan and, and and pack out. And then we had, you know, a couple miles to go back uphill to the, to the camp. And so that was a, that was a 20 hour day early

00:31:34:19 –> 00:31:35:19
Morning getting back.

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Yeah, yeah. Actually we got, so the sun would set and I took another great picture. I’ll send you guys if you’d like. I took a, we were back at the tent and the sun comes up at four. It goes down about one, but it just goes down behind the horizon. I took a great picture of our tent and the sun coming up at 4:00 AM right before we went into the tent after to sleep that day. To sleep. Yeah. And that, that’s as good a memory as as all. And

00:32:05:03 –> 00:32:06:23
Wow, that’s awesome. Well then

00:32:06:23 –> 00:32:18:07
They had to congratulations. What a gr what a world class experience really. I mean that’s just, you, your experience is kind of what spring bear in Alaska is. That’s, it’s a lot of glass. It’s a everything, a lot of patience.

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Weather, cold. Just you be prepared. You got the full gamut. You,

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It is not for the faint of heart. You have got to be mentally strong and

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Long days

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And you gotta be, you know, prepared for long days and, and you’ll get along a lot better with your guide to fuel glasses at least half as much as he does.

00:32:37:02 –> 00:32:40:01
Well you just, you at least give him three hours a day. Yeah.

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Give him the other 21

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And then just, and then an unlimited inReach plan is helpful to keep your mind busy. You know, that’s true. But

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You, you save the day. If you’re the one that actually sees the bear, there you go. Now you, you could talk a

00:32:54:11 –> 00:32:57:20
Little smack back at camp, said all I needed is three hours. He’s like, you know,

00:32:57:29 –> 00:33:01:01
Hours you would’ve started from day one. Told him maybe we would’ve been done earlier.

00:33:01:05 –> 00:33:09:13
Told I told him it was, it was age and experience. Well, he’ll learn not to you, not to waste valuable glassing time.

00:33:10:29 –> 00:33:14:08
I would love to get him on a podcast and hear his side of it. Let’s get

00:33:14:08 –> 00:33:14:26
His rendition.

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I don’t think he’s reachable

00:33:20:23 –> 00:34:17:07
So well Chris, we appreciate you taking some time outta your schedule. You’re, you’re home, you’ve just been home a few days and you know we got your pictures. Well Lance in reached me first from, from, you know, the bush where he was with a client and told me you’re successful and killed a great bear. And it was a day or two later that you were back in wherever cell phone civilization sent us the first couple pictures and great to hear great report. We appreciate you coming on. Tell us about, about it. And you know, we’ve got a number drive going on right now and, and you guys like you and many more are the recipient of some, some great hunts. We, we realize that many of these hunts are hard to book. It’s kind of a different era and time right now especially, but you’re proof I guess, that somebody’s at the end of this barrel when a ticket comes out and that’s a real person. So thanks for taking time with us today.

00:34:18:03 –> 00:34:25:07
Very happy to thank you guys again for putting that together. And I was, I was fortunate enough to win it, but I didn’t let you down so

00:34:25:14 –> 00:34:28:12
Good job Chris. We appreciate you. Have a great day. Take care.

00:34:28:25 –> 00:34:29:24
Bye bye. Bye.

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Well that’s a, that’s a great experience of from a winner. He just won that on the one that ended the end of February. We drew that around the first couple days of March and that was a quick turnaround for 99% of the time since he won that hunt. He didn’t think he was gonna be able to go, I

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I didn’t think he was gonna be, be able to go.

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None of us really did. And then some of the quarantine things lifted allowed some of the, fortunately some of our brown bear hunters that were supposed to hunt in in May couldn’t because the things didn’t lift until 1st of June. Like you said, this happened to be a June one to 15 hunt and fortunate enough to go up there and pull it off and kill an awesome looking bear. So anyway,

00:35:07:07 –> 00:35:09:25
I was told they’re gonna do spring hunts again next year.

00:35:10:03 –> 00:35:16:04
Yeah, that’s what they gotta make up, make up for stuff. Yeah and, and fortunately they can do that in some certain instances.

00:35:17:08 –> 00:36:05:10
All right, so next on the what’s hunt number, hunt number two is Nevada 2020, that’d be this year. 2 31 there in Nevada, one of the best units in the states landowner tag. We’ve got it reserved sitting here in the office and guys that put it in their name can hunt all seasons archery, muzzle rifle. Of course this will be a seven day guided hunt with the season of your choice with Greg Kro, one of the best outfitters out there getting it done nonstop on giant mule deer. Thought it was only fitting. We’d like to have world class hunts within our giveaways and our membership drives and this is definitely one of ’em. Just an incredible opportunity with Greg Kro with muggy on Rim Outfitters. Get to choose muzzle archery rifle. It’s the guide services included as well as landowner tag Bronson, we’ve been selling these for upwards of 13 five

00:36:05:25 –> 00:37:10:29
Tag only. Yep. And this one’s a guided package on top of that. So great experience there for somebody to win that hunt. Number two, hunt number three is a Nevada unit. Oh seven six through oh eight one elk hunt. This is with a six day fully outfitted hunt with landowner tag with Deadline Outfitters. Hobie Gardner winner has their hunt choice, either archery, muzzle or a rifle. This is a 2020 hunt. This is valued about $17,000. Again landowner tag guided hunt included entire and good for the entire unit group including all guide, service, food, lodging, everything on the hunt of your choice. You know, Hoby is, knows that very, very well. He lives on the other side of the border in Idaho, guides the famed unit 54 in Idaho and these units border some of that country so he knows that part of the of Nevada and knows what these elk do. Been on some great bulls, taking some great bulls with clients. So we worked with him for many, many years. So that’s another great hunt again for 2020 coming up here in Nevada. Elk count oh seven six to oh eight one

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And you’re gonna be able to go, they’re not gonna be locking the borders in Nevada, we’re pretty sure of that. So anyway, great opportunity. We have that landowner tag in our office as well. Ready to go the next hunt. Number four would be 2021 Colorado Mule Deer Hunt unit 68. We’ve all been to 68. Pretty much killed some absolute great bucks there. Great opportunity. Private and public should be awesome with Hills Guides and outfitters. Clay Hill does a great job. One of the better outfitters in the state of Colorado. So what an awesome opportunity will be next year. And the reason why we did next year, those late season dates, third season kicks as late as it’s ever been to our

00:37:54:06 –> 00:38:03:24
Recollection. November 13 to 19 in 2021. Pretty awesome dates, landowner, unit wide landowner tagging guide service included on that.

00:38:04:06 –> 00:38:06:11
What a great opportunity. So anyway,

00:38:07:03 –> 00:38:13:20
So next one is also a 2021 hunt in Mexico and I just got back from there. Awesome time.

00:38:13:21 –> 00:38:14:16
We’ve heard many times

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Go back and listen to some of

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Adventures. Luckily you didn’t go a Mexican hospital, John, but anyway, go ahead. Anyway,

00:38:21:29 –> 00:38:41:02
So it’s a seven hunt with Rancho Bon trophy hunts and that’ll be January 5th through 11th. And so that one’s not too far away actually. So no great hunt. Those are good time and, and typically great food and, and so it’s one that you want to take advantage of. Well

00:38:41:02 –> 00:38:50:19
That’s one of the best outfitters for cos deer down there we’ve ever found. Yeah, he’s producing some amazing bucks. Bronson’s something we’re gonna do. It’s definitely on our bucket list. Yeah.

00:38:50:20 –> 00:39:15:13
You know, he’s, he’s got great properties, vanishes them well, doesn’t over hunt ’em and scouts ’em very well. And this is gonna, you know, he’ll meet you. He, he lives in the United States but then meet you in Tucson, drive you through and all that. No problem. Everything’s involved, included in that and helping you get get there. So great hunt again, Mexico 2021 this January

00:39:15:13 –> 00:39:17:29
And, and and I was worried about going but if you got, yeah,

00:39:17:29 –> 00:39:18:06
If you drove

00:39:18:12 –> 00:39:26:19
Yourself right, if you’ve got somebody that takes you across the border, it’s, it’s no worries. The breeze whatsoever. Yeah, it takes a while and you gotta be prepared for that. But was

00:39:26:19 –> 00:39:29:06
There any, was there any guns pointed out at you?

00:39:29:23 –> 00:39:32:22
No, not really. I mean we got, we had the military stop us,

00:39:32:22 –> 00:39:34:02
They just toy and stuff, but it’s, yeah,

00:39:34:11 –> 00:39:34:24
It wasn’t

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A big deal. It’s all big deal. Nah, they, they want you there and so anyway, should be a great opportunity. Our last one right here, we’ve got a 2021 Texas private land Barbery Sheep Hunt. What a great outfitter there. Jim Breck bean of High West Outfitters, great opportunity, lots of property. Wyatt went on this hunt, killed an absolute monster. You

00:39:57:08 –> 00:40:00:11
Killed the giant 35 or something. I think they average about 30.

00:40:00:11 –> 00:40:03:17
He says it’s 35 and a half, but let’s call it 35 and a quarter. ’cause he probably embellished,

00:40:04:20 –> 00:40:04:26

00:40:04:26 –> 00:40:10:08
They still average 32 to 33. That’s where they’re giants, their averages. Those are big.

00:40:10:13 –> 00:40:18:12
He brought it into the office, put it on the wall and it’s a monster. Beautiful, gorgeous. Love it. Made me want to go hunt, hunt. Dell hats on my bucket list. Yeah,

00:40:18:20 –> 00:40:25:00
They’re cool. I don’t care if they’re called poor man sheep. They’re awesome. They’re cool. So what?

00:40:27:05 –> 00:40:29:00
Yeah, they are cool. I agree with

00:40:29:00 –> 00:40:59:01
You anyway, I agree with you. They’re, they’re fine. And the flexibility of when you can go, there’s a four day hunt, good for February, March or April of 2021. You pick a, pick a window a time, work it out with Jim Breck, he can work you in. So it’s not, you’re not locked into a very tight window at all. It’s also a time of year. I mean, what else is going on? February, March and April when the hunting world, there’s turkeys happening, started goblin most places Bears are still ded up. So yeah, Texas, good point. Texas is still a place to go smash and grab, so

00:40:59:28 –> 00:41:30:06
That’s right. Anyway, Texas is awesome. And then we have the, the big ticket bonus package. It’s basically if you’re, if you purchase a $500 ticket package, you get an automatic entry into our optics, which cover optics from Leica Xi, Swarovski and Vortex. I mean rifle scopes, big spot and scopes, the obvious B T X, the great big binos as well as 10 by Binos, 15 power Binos, a rangefinder from Vortex and a Riflescope

00:41:30:06 –> 00:41:36:13
By vortex. I mean it’s a good over 12 grand if I remember right. And that’s, that’s not 12,000, that’s not taken seven

00:41:36:13 –> 00:41:37:19
$95. It’s,

00:41:37:19 –> 00:42:18:14
It’s a, it’s a lot. And that gives you 30 tickets to spread out amongst your choice among, among all the hunts. And the only way to get in for the optics package is for that deal. No way to buy individual optics packets tickets. But anyway, that, that’s just a little incentive. Also just to break down the ticket orders that they are one ticket for 25. Five for 110 for 200. If you do the $200 package, you also do get an outdoor edge, epic outdoor series, razor light knife, 10 tickets and a knife gets you the 200 package. Or again, like we explained, you get the $500 package, you get a, a free knife as well as an entry into the optics giveaway. So

00:42:18:15 –> 00:42:25:13
We’ve had a lot of guys say, well I’ve already got a knife who doesn’t need a knife in every door panel. I mean every door panel and there’s four of ’em per truck.

00:42:26:00 –> 00:42:32:12
Okay, if you had guys Christmas gear, speaking of yes. Have you guys ever had to cut carpet? It’s not easy to cut.

00:42:33:15 –> 00:42:33:22

00:42:33:27 –> 00:42:48:25
Okay. Yes. And you remember the, it’s not easy to cut. Remember the exact, exact knives that you used? The old old and where do you have one of those? My boys, he’s, he’s putting together a little truck and he wanted carpet in the bit of his truck. I’m like, why? I’ve never had that in my life. Well dad, well just dad, so doesn’t rattle.

00:42:49:02 –> 00:42:55:08
We’re gonna have a little sleepover. We’re gonna have, I we’re gonna have a little bonfire, have little honeys in there that might rain. Alright?

00:42:55:21 –> 00:43:01:06
And, and he knows what, he knows what’ll happen if that happens. So he, we don’t need to go there on the what ifs. Welcome

00:43:01:08 –> 00:43:02:19
To teenage boys. That however

00:43:03:13 –> 00:43:21:18
He’s like, he comes, comes out of the kitchen with the steak knife and I’m like, what’s that for? He goes, I gotta cut that car. He says, no, that ain’t gonna cut it. I says, he, he says, well I can’t find the exact one knife anywhere. I says, right, go get one to the epic outdoors, raise your light. That thing buttered no butter. I says, get a fresh plate it perfect

00:43:21:23 –> 00:43:23:12
Lines, perfect lines. And

00:43:23:12 –> 00:43:35:05
It’s got the hard back. I mean it was unbelievable. He’s like, I’m shocked he had to cut it out for the wheel wells and all this crap. And I’m like, whatever. You’re gonna put one dead animal in there and throw the carpet away, but whatever.

00:43:35:15 –> 00:43:38:00
So, but that’ll be a proud dad moment when he does. Well

00:43:38:00 –> 00:43:38:17
Yeah and

00:43:38:17 –> 00:43:39:00
Like I say, I

00:43:39:11 –> 00:43:41:06
And I get to say, I told you so

00:43:41:26 –> 00:43:47:22
Last night I used mine to open up a bag of Grub Killer Grub. I did dad projects. Oh

00:43:47:26 –> 00:43:48:02

00:43:48:02 –> 00:43:58:22
Got Grub Killer in the lawn? Yeah, here in there. Right. So there’s a razor light and one my one door panel that I went for didn’t have one. I’m like, yep, I need another one because I don’t like looking around. Well

00:43:58:25 –> 00:44:00:02
Trucks, trucks have four doors,

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Four doors, four door

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Panels. You have

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Multiple trucks. Pretty soon you need eight, nine knives. Four. That’s the way it goes. Huh? Anyway, do that. You can also get a entry in, if you refer a guy, so refer one of your buddies that’s mooching off you, you know, you’ll get a ticket for referring him. He’ll get a ticket ’cause he’s a new member. Any of you out there that are listening and mooching join, okay? It’s time to join. Pay your dues. You’re gonna get a monthly publication December through June, bimonthly, the remaining part of the year. Be able to call in and

00:44:35:07 –> 00:44:56:11
Be able to use your own drawing odds, research tools online, your old hunt planner features. That’s right. And if you wanna buy optics, we’ll look you up and see that you are a member and we will extend a, a awesome deal to you because you’re a member of Epic Outdoors versus not. So anyway, there’s other benefits in there that’ll easily pay for that a hundred dollars membership a year. No question,

00:44:56:15 –> 00:45:02:20
Don’t be a cheapskate. Join and we’re gonna make all your hopes and dreams come true Western big game hunting. That’s what we do

00:45:02:23 –> 00:45:17:18
Next week. We’ll be one of the fun traditions that we have is we record the calls when we call the guys, we do it twice a year. It’s one of the funnest things that, that, you know, we get to be a part of and just make people’s dreams come true. How often do you get to do that? It,

00:45:17:21 –> 00:45:43:22
It’s pretty fun. It’s obviously we got, we’re always thinking of ways to market our business to current members, potential members, new, new blood members. You know, you gotta market and this is just a way that we do that. Hunts are what we all love to do and dream about. Think about. And it’s a carrot dangling out there to help people maybe as an incentive, but it’s a pretty big carrot. These are some of them, 18 to $20,000 carrots and

00:45:43:22 –> 00:45:46:23
The odds have never been better. John and I’m, we’re not just saying it,

00:45:47:17 –> 00:45:54:00
18 to $20,000. Carrots a lot worth a lot more than that. Carrot juice you pounded this morning. Yeah, yeah. We were

00:45:54:00 –> 00:46:07:26
Worried about the Corona, you know, doing this, this giveaway during Corona and, and I think it has affected, yeah. You know, things sensitive. The odds are are really good due to that as well. It’s

00:46:07:26 –> 00:46:21:25
Also a shorter drive. This is a 45 or 50 day drive. Part of the reason we gotta give some of these hunts away ’cause they’re 2020, you can’t back out of ’em. You bought ’em, you bought the land or ta you bought, put booked the outfitter. Can’t just say, ah, maybe next year. And we

00:46:21:25 –> 00:46:23:16
Don’t, we don’t back out when we don’t quit.

00:46:23:16 –> 00:46:24:22
So we’re not gonna do that. So,

00:46:24:22 –> 00:46:26:26
So we’re not quitters. Okay. Chris,

00:46:26:27 –> 00:46:27:12
You had a

00:46:27:13 –> 00:47:32:18
Question I was just gonna talk, talk about guys, if, if you’re listening and you’re not a member, let me just, I’m just gonna tell you from my, my perspective, okay. If you’re interested in applying for big game in the West United States, that’s expensive and, and there’s a lot that goes into it, a lot of time, a lot of money for a hundred dollars, you, you basically can ensure that you’re doing the right thing, that you’re putting that money to good use, that you can, you give this magazine and you can look through and instead of just throwing your money out there hoping that you’re doing the right thing, you can have personalized service and someone that’s gonna help you to maximize your application strategy. So let’s say I wanna go to Colorado. I, I can go through this magazine and I can look and I can read about each unit and I can pick, okay, I wanna do this and then I can call in. That is well worth more than a hundred dollars. And especially once you consider how much you’re spending to apply. If you’re gonna put in the money to apply, you may as well spend a hundred dollars and have professional help and

00:47:33:25 –> 00:47:34:27
Get the most out of your money.

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Most of these states are a hundred to $200 non-refundable apply to apply for in each state. And then the tags are, let’s just say deer, elk tags, three to $700 each. When you draw, you draw a bad one, you and then your time away from work gas, you’re, you’re in this, you know, 800 a grand, pretty easy on a hunt. That’s a self-guided hunt. So, and I would contend that some of the information that you read is going to either save you money that maybe is not maybe worth doing in a certain draw strategy based on you new or, or your perspective or applying a totally different way so that you are getting the most out of your non-refundable money. So, good point Chris, in bringing all that up, that a hundred dollars is pretty easy to recapture in this whole scheme of applying the Western unit United States.

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Well, and then if you draw a tag, the, the fact alone that we can give you a list of, of guys who’ve drawn that, that unit, you draw a tag outta state, you’ve never been there. That information and just where to camp, places to start is invaluable.

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Alright, if that’s it, that’s it. We got until Friday. Yeah, midnight to be able to apply for this membership drive. June 19th. Get your buddies in. We’ve

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Get your name in the

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Hat, it’s your name in the hat. Love to

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Draw it.

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Make sure you’re in there. Can’t be in too many draws. That’s the way we look at it.

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That’s right. Give us a call. We’re here at the office, 4 3 5 2 6 3 0 7 7 7 or [email protected]. You can buy tickets on there, buy your membership on there. If it’s simpler to just give us a call. Again, call us (435) 263-0777 and we hope to be calling you next week.