A Long Hot Summer and Covid Times. In this episode we talk about the current summer and what were seeing out in the field so far this year. 2020 has been a strange and challenging year to say the least. We talk about some of the current events and even call our friend Paul Marshall for some counseling. More to come with Paul in a future episode.

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This year’s looking great Nevada. There’s gonna be some giants. Utah,

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Big Bull Bulls, bulls, our expertise, Western, big game, Canada, Alaska, Mexico, getting tags, getting hunts, buying hunts. Anything to do with Western. Big Game. Welcome to the Epic Outdoors Podcast,

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Started off with our buddy Chris Peterson, here in the house.

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Live from Cedar City, Utah. Epic Outdoors podcast.

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Maybe even played it at Toads here. I don’t know, I don’t know if we can start this, this out. I don’t know if we can start this out with a love

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Song. Yeah. Never

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Knew how dark my, alright. Yeah, it’s not working very good. Ah, it’s not. But Chris, I’m proud today. This’s awesome. Something,

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Something new and different.

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Everybody, but anybody want to go listen tomorrow? Chris, you can download him on iTunes, can’t ya? Yeah. How about that? Chris Peterson Cowboy coming home album, stealing Heaven.

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You’ve also been doing a few, we’ll call ’em gigs this summertime. Yeah.

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Gig time. We’ve done a few, we’ve done a few in the Renegade towns that are

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Allowing that renegade, that are,

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Speaking of

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Probably covid free environments in those little towns. Yeah.

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Speaking of the Renegade places. Oh

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Yeah. Where are we going?

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Well, I think you had some notes

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Where, what Gimme something feels

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Like everywhere except for where we’re at right now, which there’s pressures being placed upon us daily to mask up, but everywhere we go we’re, we’re looked at. Weird. Okay. My case

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Point you like no shoes, no shirt, no mask, no service.

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Okay. I’m not gonna say what town in Nevada, but it was Nevada. Okay. And this is nothing against Nevadans. We love Nevada. We love all Nevada people, we love all Nevada animals. You’re talking about no

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Alamo or, or, or there near Springs. Okay.

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It was, it was further south, but, so there’s a few establishments in Nevada that sell firecrackers of a little bit more aggressive, exciting variety.

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Okay. The res.

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So it’s been a, my boy, he loves him and his buddy save their money and they make a pilgrimage down there. My wife this time took him down there. Okay. They ran down to a smash and grab, actually they waited two hours in line. ’cause you can’t, it’s masked up 105, 10 degree heat and you’re 100 season twosies at a time. Well, they get it and they come back and they, they on the way home, they stop it at Walmart.

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And, and the lies in Nevada. Jason, you

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Wear a mask. You wear a mask. Right.

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And he, they just stopped literally to like grab something. You’re

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Talking Walmart in Mesquite. Okay.

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You nailed it.

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Okay. Keep going. I, I don’t know. You heard this story. Okay, keep going.

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Yep. And elderly gentleman approached him and just grabbed him by the collar. Says, do you have grandparents? Do you have a grandma and grandpa? And Ty’s like, well, yeah. He says, you need to be thinking about ’em more. Where’s your masks? And lined them out for five minutes. Come on. Right. And they’re in the store and, and they didn’t know, you know, they’re, they’re from Cedar City. They just, their hopes and dreams are come true

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With the truck

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With a trunk full of fireworks. And I know it’s the hard time somebody putting

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Their hands on me or my kids. Oh yeah. I have a hard time with

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That. Got lit up, says, you guys are disrespectful. And then it’s, there’s some truth to that. I get it. Wow. Okay. That’s, that’s where we’re at right now. So

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I have a hard time with it. I’m gonna say it out loud, quite frankly, you know, I don’t even know if we’re in real pandemic numbers, but having said that, I don’t really feel like these Mass Bronson we’re talking people are wearing shirts, porous shirts. Right.

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I’d like, huh? We had Jeff roll on the podcast a few weeks ago and he designed, he had a self-designed mask that was,

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You should supposed to picture that. I’d

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Have to find it. I I’ve

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Seen it. Oh, you a screenshot. We got it.

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It was,

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It was the, the of mask I wanna wear if I have to wear one. Well, we’re supposed to be wearing, I’m even hearing each, each other. We’re making

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Of a little out of it, but it’s just, it’s not where

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My style

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Stir crazy. We want to go. Did see a lot of the guys wearing their hut gear fishing masks,

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Which is, I ordered a couple of ’em. If I have to go somewhere and they’re okay with wearing material that doesn’t necessarily work. I’m gonna wear that. You know, I have a problem. This is what I, I feel like, and I don’t know what we’re, you know, I’m not a conspiracy theorist guy. I always laughed at friends of ours, Jeff John, who’s a conspiracy red don. They’re always cons thinking that people are out to get ’em and that there’s crazy things happening out there. Okay. Couple things,

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But remind me. Okay. You go where you’re going.

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Okay. So, and there are some crazy things. That’s where, where I was going now got, now that I’ve got, for example, you wanted to know which tires I was running. The tire company here in town was gracious enough to gimme a steal of a deal on a set of tires. They were opening up a new store. Appreciate them. They’re awesome guys. We’ve known ’em for years and years. Fire destinations, the empty mutters. They’re, they’re an aggressive tire. You’re like saying,

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Hey, we were talking about ’em yesterday. That versus something else. I’ve got a chem truck or two that trying to get ’em on. Right. I asked you what one it was verbally. I on my computer, Googled it, went on their website, checked them out, all that made an order. Okay. You didn’t type it into

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I your phone? Only into my computer at work. My work computer. Okay. Not into my phone.

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And what came up

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Facebook this morning. Facebook ads, his Firestone destinations full, full on tread the mtss. And I’m like, they’re listening. I am so tired of getting ads of stuff. And didn’t you guys

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Verbally? Yeah. Didn’t

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You guys do a

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Kids do it in school?

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Yeah. Test it out. Talk about Lysol something, something they never would talk about normally. Pretty soon, Lysol ads come up. How’s this happening? Do they not know everything we’re doing? And think about this, we’re on airplane mode. We have our mapping system up, let’s call it Onyx. And on airplane mode. That thing knows within a foot where you’re at. Find my phone app, whatever it is. Do they not know everything we’re saying? Doing where we’re at, and maybe even using our camera to see our facial expressions. I’m just saying, but we’re not we’ll record conversations, but

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We’re not conspiracy

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Theorists. We’re not. But I’m telling you, the older I’m getting, and I’m watching this as, let’s say a certain party, political party seems to be shutting down economies on purpose, possibly to not get Trump reelected. I’m just saying, I think some of that might have something to do with some of these restrictions. Because if the economy comes back, he’s getting reelected. And I’m just saying, the more older I’m getting, the more Facebook ads pop up with Firestones, I’m starting to wonder about everything in life. So everything

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At lunch today, we’re gonna go have lunch and we’re going to the pawn shop and we’re going, we’re buying flip phones.

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Well, or even they, I think they make phones, but now it probably has new age technology that still knows everything you’re doing, even though they’re flip phones. Right. They make new flip phones from what I understand. How about

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Can we just, let’s just inReach text each other. Well,

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When I was thinking no, that, you know that Chis really knows where you’re at. Turn

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Off the No, don’t send the locations with each message.

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Okay. It says they’re turned off. But what does that really mean? And I’m just saying Bronson

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500 feet.

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I’m just saying anymore. I’m just like, I, I want to go back to we don’t have phones. What about 1995? I wanna

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Go back to that cave. That Archibald’s got us rations in somewhere between here and the Grand Canyon. That’s general proximity. We don’t know right where it is. Somewhere, somewhere.

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Do we have to go into a cave? I mean, again, okay, think about this. We got new age trucks. The trucks have a little antenna on the top of that truck. What does that do?

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It’s a satellite and it sends the highway country stations to my

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Truck. It send everything to your truck. It will unlock your truck doors. How about that

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S p n radio from

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An app, I can unlock my truck doors. How does this, do you not think they listen to what’s going on inside your truck? The conversations? I’m just saying, Chris, what’s your opinion?

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I think to a cer I mean, I think they have the capability to, not that they always do. Well,

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I used to think, who wants to know what 1400 million people are saying and doing? But maybe there’s some way to record what these 1400 people are doing and then a million people and then they can go retrieve that or whatever. But I don’t know. I’m just saying

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Now, like you see in the movies, they’re

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Not our friends. That’s what I feel like. I feel like they’re ready. Take your money. By the way, your money created all this technology, by the way, we’re gonna use this technology against you,

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But we’re not conspiracy theorists.

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And, and, and we love masks. So there we are. Right. Three wheelers, masks, anything and everything. Yeah. I don’t know. So change the subject. Let’s go to a happy note. Had a guy by the name of Jason, let’s call him D period. He drew the super tag for Antelope in Wyoming.

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Wow. Today? Yes.

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You were on the other line real quick.

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They’re making calls.

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Yes. He drew it. Awesome. And he says, he says, you, you’re making an, you’re, you’re having an effect on us hunters. I’m like, okay, here we go. How he’s gonna say that I

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Make ruined the odds and he can’t draw his general deer unit four years

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Possible. Possibly. Right.

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But no went the other way. He

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Says, the first thing I thought of is, okay, I’ve got a tag for truck chasers.

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And the second one is I’ve got a, an analog tag Jason doesn’t have. Yeah,

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That’s right. And I, and the third one is Jason might be jealous. Kay, I want to dispel all of this right now. Bronson, Chris,

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This was in teasing and in jest it started that, not an antelope connoisseur,

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But there was a podcast, Chris, you could dig it up. It’s there. It’s just like stuff doesn’t die. Could be used against you. I remember the, you made the statement. I am a trophy antelope.

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Okay. Yeah. In, in

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The opening line in jest in the podcast is I’m a trophy Antelope. Connoisseur.

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Yeah. In jest. Because you all are making me into one. And it’s getting old. I don’t like, I really don’t like them. I don’t have tons of respect for ’em because they do chase my truck. But, you know, I had one the other day, I had the other one the other day. He bout smoked me. He, he, he crossed the road. Bronson, you

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Were with me. Oh, I was with him. Nevada.

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Yeah. And I was, I didn’t think anything of it. He crossed the road and you’re like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And he came back across the road, 10 feet off the end of my truck. 45 mile an hour. Wrong.

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I, yeah, I wasn’t with you on that one. Maybe I was asleep. Was that the time me and John were asleep?

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Oh yeah. It might’ve been. I don’t know. I

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Just remember the other day. The

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Days run together when we’re scouting, by the way, we’ve been out scouting. What are we seeing in Bronson?

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We’re seeing triple digits plus 10 or 15

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Broken diet Coke cans. I had Diet Coke cans in my truck. Grab the grab

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In the cab.

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In the cab, grabbed it, the jostling next, the cans jostling against each other. Busted one

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Blew it up. Oh yeah. John says he’s had him blow up in the bed of his truck in the, with the black surround in the bedliner stuff. Yeah. You know what? I know we can’t trip. Totally trust the thermometers on your trucks. Sometimes you start ’em, you know, and you’re idling and it picks up engine heat, whatever. But the highest I’ve ever recorded was this week. And, and I was driving for hours, you know, all day long. Mean I’m wasn’t moving. I’m going 45 miles an hour. Yeah. And it’s, it’s between 111 to 113 all the time. And then it went to one 14. I took a picture, went to 1 15, 4 minutes later, took a picture, went to one 16,

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Send it to me, took

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A picture, send it to everybody. I’m like, I’m tapping out.

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I remember you said uncle,

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Uncle, uncle, uncle.

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I’m like, you’re like, well this place, you know, and you were going up to said spring or whatever, and you’re like, this place is all washed out. And I’m like, oh, great. So, so you guess you walk that quarter of, or three quarters of a mile to get to the water instead of camera. And you’re like, well, no, no, no. I didn’t, I didn’t do that. No, there’s no sheet there. It was

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Two 30 in the afternoon. No,

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You’re not doing it.

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And, and I didn’t even know if it was gonna have water when I got there. It was just one of those, I, I need to be there at daylight. And I could have done it. About rolled my truck, gotten a pickle doing a 14 point turn, turned around in a wash. It’s like 15 foot wide with boulders that turned into boulders ’cause of a flash flood. Anyway, it was a road until it wasn’t a road. And yeah. Crease my bumper backing up. Then I had some guy from Vegas, I don’t know. And people from Vegas the next day. Hey, thanks for blazing the trail up there.

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Oh yeah.

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You know who you are.

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Even initials ak

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You even took pruning shears and sh hey, just to save the scratches on the side. Well, I’m, I’m trying to, but we took out the whole rear bumper. Yeah. Well at least parse it apart

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Of it. Well, and I’m, when it’s that hot, frankly, you can’t, I don’t care who you are, you’re tougher than me. If you can ride your side by side all day long from two 30 in the morning when Carter and I left, we’re in different units. Two 30 in the morning trying to beat the, you can’t do it and get home at nine. You can’t. I don’t No, you can’t do it. No, it’s not positive. Your, your machine puts off an extra 5, 10, 20 degrees when they get hot. Oh,

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I was in the Talon going 55. And it’s like a hair blower on high and hot right up your nostrils for two hours. I mean,

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And I’m gonna say, yeah, I told you this. I don’t care. I’m very comfortable with my inadequacies.

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Oh no. So where is this going? Well,

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No. So the next, when was it? So that was a, we almost pull, you almost pull an all-nighter when you do that. Because by the time you get home and you go to bed, it’s like 21, 22 hours. And for mid guys in the mid forties. Those days, those days are over. Those, those days are a long time ago. So the next day, wake up, had some ball games with kids. You did stuff, family, whatever, ball games, travel back St. George, come back here. Some more ball games sitting in the sun. I’m finally, I’m home at about five 30 that night. Ac I’m lay down watching TV and I, and I guess I go to sleep five 30. I wake up and it’s one of those that you wake up. Oh, I’m wake up. It’s morning. Or look at my clock. It’s 11:30 PM

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And I am wide awake. I’m ready to go. I ready

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Come. You got six hours. I did. I did

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Six hours of sleep. Five 30. Go down for a nap. My wife and daughter left the room. Hey, they said I was snoring like a champ. Oh. And they just left me. Bee went down. They went down and watched a movie. I think they were, they were still wrestling. They were going to bed. And I’m like, I’ve got a problem. Yeah. That’s a bad feeling. This is on a, where was that? Saturday night? 1130. I’m fully rested and it’s pitch black. There’s nothing to do. Anyway. That’s getting, that’s what getting old does, I guess. I don’t know. You you, you do one day of in the heat of four

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Days recovery. That’s

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Right. That’s what I’m saying. That’s what I’m talking about. Deficiencies. If, if

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The AC were to go out in this office, we’d be sitting in our truck. ’cause the AC never goes out in our truck. I mean, once in its life, whatever. And then you sell it and move on. We

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Need to play on Toby Keith song. Not as good as I once was. That’s

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As good. Once as I ever was. Yep. Once. Hey, what about these new Ford Broncos coming out?

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I don’t know, it’s not even worth calling Aaron, but for all you guys that we’ve teased him about trucks, we did text him this morning. We in in jest of course. Said, Hey, I assume you got one of those on pre-order and he just Yep. With a smiley face. Which he doesn’t. Yeah,

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Of course. But it’s got, you know, it doesn’t matter what you said it was, he wouldn’t have one on pre-order. I mean, this thing’s got over 300 horsepower. Over 400 foot pounds of torque. It’s got sway bar disconnect. Electronic lockers seven speed manual or 10 speed auto. I mean they went through it all. All

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The stuff they didn’t have in the early seventies when the Broncos were,

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If they were that good back then and they didn’t have anything, what do you think they’re like now? Yeah.

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Impressive. The little video clip they played made me want.

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Haven’t watched it.

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Don’t watch it. You’re gonna rid.

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Never been a really a Ford guy. That’s just my thing. I’m not, but anyway.

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All right. What else? Where, where are we at? We are ricocheting all over the place here. But, well,

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I think just part of what we were talking about as a scouting. We’re scouting sheep, deer, obviously. Elk. Elk. We’ve got elk kegs. We’re

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Excited. We’re going in a lot of different direct

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Yeah. The

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Chart about that

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In places. Elk. Let’s just talk

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Nevada. Utah. Arizona. Yep. The important one. Well, not that everything’s not born,

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But, but yeah. And other than Arizona, they had a, they had a good year, but Utah. Utah had a bad year last year. It was not good. We had a way late spring didn’t ever worn up.

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Yeah. Pilot was snow.

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Snow snow was co different.

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Yeah. In June. So it was, I mean, snow levels were, yeah. Still significant up in the upper elevations in Utah in June. And so we were nervous that there was a

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Green never really got going good, you know? Yeah. Just, just eating too much winter feed for too long before things really got going. This year’s different. This year’s looking great Nevada. There’s gonna be some giants, Utah, big Bulls, bulls, bulls bull in Utah. So there’s gonna be some giant, giant bulls killed

00:17:43:19 –> 00:17:44:26
Year in Utah. Few, four hundreds

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Arizona. We anticipate that too. So they’re always behind elk. So we’re all, you know, it’s mid-July. We’re always eager to start seeing something big. There’s a few,

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There’s very few.

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It is not.

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Nevada appears to be either a behind

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Or off

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And off, I would say. And at this moment I felt

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That way about Utah so far

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Too. Have you? Yeah, a little bit. You know, it was really wet through the late fall winter and way early spring. Let’s call it March earlier

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Up until April one. Yeah.

00:18:19:10 –> 00:18:51:11
You know, it must have been dry. So dry, so miserable. But the feed looks great, but I’m telling you, something’s not quite right. And we’ve talked about it before. I almost feel like deer cycle and maybe have some unknown variables that we don’t know everything about. They just, they have cycles and it just feels like, I don’t know, so far now the Arizona Strip, I’m hearing there’s great bucks. You know, Henry’s been getting a fe, a little bit of moisture. Bronson, when we haven’t been, maybe there’s gonna be places that are gonna be great. Colorado probably always produce a few. But

00:18:51:12 –> 00:19:13:23
Yeah, the mountain states aren’t as limiting on summer range. You know, places like Colorado, lots of Wyoming, you know, western Wyoming. They’re not limited on summer range for the most part anyway, so Yeah, we’re still too early. We’re not making a bold prediction yet. It’s July 13th or whatever. It’s 14th. I don’t know what it’s tax day tomorrow.

00:19:14:16 –> 00:19:21:22
Tax day tomorrow is nerve wracking when your accountant hasn’t spoke to you. A do you have my documents? B,

00:19:22:02 –> 00:19:25:07
Where do I sign C so I can forget about this. What’s

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The damage? Alright, well anyway,

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Brace yourself.

00:19:29:13 –> 00:19:39:10
The more tax you pay, the more money you made. Let’s get off that. That’s what I did. Tell one, let’s get off that. One of my clients and he’s like, yeah, I got a tax burden. It’s unbelievable. I’m like, that means you made a lot of money. I wish I had that problem. He looks at me like

00:19:39:29 –> 00:19:42:17
Somehow we’re back on all the government stuff again.

00:19:42:17 –> 00:19:44:29
Yeah, let’s get off the government. Yeah, let’s get off. Who cares about taxes? Yeah,

00:19:45:13 –> 00:19:45:19

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I mean, if we’re gonna defund police, we should get some refunds, huh? Okay. Okay. Okay. I’m sorry I brought it up. No. All right. Don’t loot, don’t steal. We won’t need the police. All right, let’s, where are we at now? Let’s see. Bronson, we’ve talked about Aler growth a little bit. What about these fires?

00:20:04:11 –> 00:20:08:11
Yeah, they’re popping. Feels like everywhere we got ’em in town. My street,

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If you go, if you go out there, it’s like, man, I was scared the other day. Even driving down the two tracks, like I’m not gonna park anywhere

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There. There was

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Anywhere that There’s grass.

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Yeah, there was, there was that bro grass. That’s about a foot to 18 high. I was afraid to park. I parked in the middle of the road. I’m like, someone comes here and the 20 minutes I’m here, they’re gonna, I I don’t wanna park off. No, because

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You don’t want your grandkids having to pay the burden of the fine that you created from causing a forest fire.

00:20:37:18 –> 00:20:39:19
Grandpas are supposed to be thought of fondly.

00:20:41:05 –> 00:20:41:18
Good point.

00:20:42:12 –> 00:20:45:13
Instead of grandpa, he, he,

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He deserved the 14 months jail time He did.

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He, he deserved the bread and water he got for the rest of his life. So it’s, there’s a lot. And, and there’s been a few exceptions. There’s been, there’s been the Kaibab fire, we talked about that. It was big. Those the first

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Of of them that really set us off that’re

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Giant. There’s been a, and I don’t wanna minimize it, I don’t have all the acres in front of me, but a lot of them in Utah and Nevada up up till now have been smaller. But there’s a lot. Been a lot of ’em. Yeah. And it just feels like it’s just by that second

00:21:23:29 –> 00:21:30:18
It’s snowballing everywhere. Yeah. The longer we go without a good monsoons building. Yep. We’re getting it. Yep.

00:21:31:13 –> 00:22:11:22
So it’s also the time of year, like I said, scouting, we, you know, obviously we had you, you listened to another podcast one or two ago, I don’t remember which one. We talked with our rep, Kobe Swar. Swarovski rep about the NL Pures. We’ve had a great response on the pre-order of those. If you’re still interested in pre-ordering a pair of eight by 42, 10 by 4, 2 12 by four two NL Pures, which should be dropping in September. Give us a call 4 3 5 2 6 3 0 7 7 7. We just take a small deposit just so we basically know who’s serious and put you on a first, come first for avoiding list. And we’re shipping ’em out that way.

00:22:11:22 –> 00:22:38:05
We base our orders off that, those deposits and it secures your place in line. And you can be rest assured, it’s the industry best pricing. New products. Bronson, let’s just be honest. I mean the Fort Bronco, they’re not gonna make me a steal. They’re gonna have plenty of demand. We don’t work that way here at Epic Outdoors. We are giving you member pricing, which beats anybody’s Memorial Day, labor Day, 4th of July. Sales there are guaranteed. Just call us. Call us.

00:22:38:17 –> 00:23:04:25
Yeah. Those that are, that have looked around whether well the peers are new enough that, you know, you have to call somebody ’cause they’re not advertised in stores yet. But it, if you’re buying, you know, like a Swarovski vortex optics, you’re doing a disservice not to call us. Because the people that call us says, wow, I’ve done my homework. You guys are a lot better. So anyway, give us a call when we say give us a call for best pricing. We mean it. That’s what we’re saying.

00:23:04:26 –> 00:23:50:16
We’re here to play. You know, we’ve had, you know, there’s been guys coming out with some wazoo, crazy amazing sales, they say, and you compare ’em to our everyday member price. I mean, we’re less still better. So I guess we don’t have, you didn’t see us come out with the fourth major amazing 4th of July sale. Our everyday sale is what you get. It’s every day. So anyway, the, the upside, even though it’s an everyday sale, let’s call it, the upside of getting in early, is you secure your place in line. There’s gonna be, there are gonna be a finite number given to us, given to other dealers and things like that. We’ve upped our order, which they’ve, you know, added to our original order. And so we’re super excited. We’re, we’re ordering significant quantities of optics anyway. Think of us when you think of something. Yep.

00:23:50:16 –> 00:24:21:28
We love making great deals. So if you’re not necessarily interested in the Pures, but you’re interested in something else, give us a call. We’re here, you know, at least Monday through Thursday every day in the office through the summer. Some Fridays. But some Fridays were, were taking off frankly, as scouting and other things get on the front burner. And let’s face it here, within three or four weeks, some of the archery deer hunts are starting. So it’s, it’s coming fast. So we aren’t gonna be here all the Fridays. Keep that in mind through the summer. Unless you have something pressing and we can make other arrangements.

00:24:22:00 –> 00:24:38:20
We’re also selling stealth cam. We’ve got a number of models that are in stock here at the Epic office. And you know, we definitely treat guys right on that. We get ’em out as soon as we can. Bronson, you and I make trips to the mail specifically before three 30 couple,

00:24:38:20 –> 00:24:40:17
Sometimes two, three times a day. ’cause

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We know what it feels like. Yeah.

00:24:41:22 –> 00:25:11:07
You wanted to get it out. And we realize it’s scouting season, so you get an get orders in by 10 or noon. You take ’em up and then you get some more before three 30. You take ’em up trying to get it, get it out to you fast. Like I said, we’ve got about four models of cameras in lock boxes as well. Doesn’t matter if you need one or two, whether it’s fusions, whether it’s regular SSD card cameras. Give us a call, make a great price on those two. And I’ll just say it, there’s, there’s cameras we have that nobody else has. Even, even some of the, some of the distributors,

00:25:11:08 –> 00:25:14:13
Even the mothership that’s right. Is waiting. And it’s just because we

00:25:14:13 –> 00:25:15:28
Bought big quantities and we

00:25:15:28 –> 00:26:00:05
Were proactive. We made a lot of our orders in March. People aren’t thinking about cameras in March, but we, we know when people are gonna think of ’em. ’cause we know when we think of ’em. And that’s generally May and June and, and it takes a month or two to get your stuff here. I mean, that’s just the way these big companies work. Knowing that we pre-ordered again. And that’s our goal. We feel like we’ve played it right. Being new in somewhat the, the retail market, let’s call it for optics and, and trail cameras. And so anyway, working hard at it. We love it. As well as course the epic publication, all the statistics, draw tags, all of those things that we’ve always done. We continue to do, continue to perform well at and, and have that be kind of the crux of our business here.

00:26:00:14 –> 00:26:04:16
Putting some of the final touches on a magazine actually this next few days. Yeah,

00:26:04:26 –> 00:26:06:20
Back in the freaking saddle. Keep

00:26:06:20 –> 00:26:16:11
That August, September magazine out. Couple of the highlights. That’s I guess key up, maybe the points only application periods that are open. Oregon, Montana,

00:26:17:14 –> 00:26:17:29

00:26:17:29 –> 00:26:23:16
Wyoming. The one big thing you need to remember about Wyoming, probably more than any, any of the others, is

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Everybody needs to apply for it.

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Even if you applied for deer, elk, and antelope last year, they went to this new method that even if you applied for ’em and were unsuccessful, they didn’t give you a point automatically for deer, elk, and antelope. They did not do it. You’ve gotta go back now and get your points. Do not forget. Don’t think, well I applied for elk and deer and antelope. I’m good. They gimme a

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Point just for those three species. That’s right.

00:26:46:09 –> 00:26:46:19

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And sheep and moose.

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Sheep and moose. They, they pulled 150 from you.

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There’s no option there. There’s no option. They’re pulling it outta your skin up there. The goats, obviously there’s and bison, there’s no points for it. But

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Anyway, keep that in mind. You have till November 2nd, there’s not gonna be, there’s not gonna be an excuse for you to miss this July one to November two. It’s like freaking four months, like four months point period. I

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Mean, we’re going to, yeah. So anyway, we’re gonna cover that all in the publication as well as applying in Texas. Have a little bit of precursor for that. But just so y’all know, we’re, we’re cranking that out. We are not losing focus of what brought us to the table or what our expertise are. Our expertise. Western big game, Canada, Alaska, Mexico, getting tags, getting hunts, buying hunts. And then of course we’re using all the gear and so we added the gear. It keeps us cranking on some fun projects throughout the late spring, summer, fall. And, and we enjoy it. And, and we like, you know, getting our members great deals. And so anyway, it’s been fun. It’s been a fun little project and we’ve got the manpower here to do it. We got awesome guys, by the way. And gals ly here at the epic office.

00:27:52:20 –> 00:28:03:18
Great, great staff. I was thinking today, I, I came oh, 15 minutes late to work today. I dunno, I had an excused absence. Carter, I’d run that by him last night. So anyway,

00:28:03:18 –> 00:28:08:13
Submitted a written form to whoever John, I think it was. I gotta submit forms to John. Everybody s

00:28:08:13 –> 00:28:14:01
John. But when I pulled in here today, it looked like there was trucks, bumpers, jeeps. It was like

00:28:14:24 –> 00:28:16:16
They’re all drawing salaries.

00:28:17:08 –> 00:28:22:11
Well it just, it was like people ready to play here today. It was like, you know, everybody was here. But

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What’s funny is, is we keep saying, well, summer’s gonna be a slow time. Bronson, when’s the last slow time? You remember? 2016.

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The only time slow was Saturday night at about 1130.

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For me it was pretty slow. The clock with ticket. You probably could hear your heart beating, laying in bed, not wanting to move to wake up. Becky.

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Well, she went, I told her, I says she wasn’t in bed yet. Well she was going to bed. And I’m like, it’s not gonna happen here. ’cause I can’t sleep. So I was up till at least two 30. Just we

00:28:51:26 –> 00:28:53:02
Doing polishing. Nothing

00:28:53:13 –> 00:28:58:07
Pioneer. I put on a movie. No, no, no. Those projects are done. It was just

00:28:59:01 –> 00:29:05:07
Trying to find a movie that golf carts or, or going through trail camera photos. 15, 15,000 bird photos.

00:29:06:13 –> 00:29:09:07
No, but those are coming too this week. I, I

00:29:09:07 –> 00:29:10:06
Hate it. No

00:29:10:07 –> 00:29:20:13
Dang chuckers. Some quail. I did find a water. I told you about this. There was a water. I’ve never flushed more fouls of the air off of in in, in

00:29:20:13 –> 00:29:26:00
My life. I don’t, I know it was it’s world class. It was unbelievable. Nevada has world class bird hunting class. But, but

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The weird thing is, is I didn’t see him anywhere. And I get to this one and, and I told you this, I told you the number two to 300. Oh,

00:29:35:08 –> 00:29:35:24
I’ve seen it.

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I’ve seen it. I, I don’t know. And it was doves and, and quail and it, they were, they kept flushing for 300 yards, either side of it. And, and they wouldn’t quit. And I’m like, oh

00:29:48:02 –> 00:29:48:08

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What is going on

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Here? Yeah, I’ve had that. And the

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Little chicks, like you said, they’re running off. They look like freaking

00:29:55:18 –> 00:29:56:02

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Awesome. Three inch little,

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Oh, Sean told me we saw little turkeys little, you

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Know. Oh, did

00:30:01:06 –> 00:30:01:08

00:30:01:09 –> 00:30:01:16

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Sean or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Sean’s like, oh, I’ll catch one of those. We’ll throw ’em in with our chickens. And I’m like, and I’m thinking a, we’d probably get in big trouble for that. It’s wildlife, but, but b there’s no way he can. I’m like, oh yeah, you think you can think you’re a big boy. Get on out there and see what you can do sooner. He didn’t even get to the edge of the pavement. I mean, they were flying and gone. I’m like just saying,

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They’re wild animals. If they haven’t figured it out by now, they’re already dead. Yeah,

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You’re not, you’re not catching it. Just

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Like antelope. How, I mean, how fast do they grow? Oh, you look at a dough, they so

00:30:34:24 –> 00:30:37:04
Little weeks, they go from zero to 40 in three seconds. They get,

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They get born and they’re like, how big is that? I mean, I

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Don’t know what, a foot and a half long.

00:30:41:29 –> 00:30:43:02
Yeah, whatever. Two feet

00:30:43:05 –> 00:30:43:13

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Five pound, five pound. I don’t know. I don’t really know. But I’m just saying they’re little. Well it’s like

00:30:48:19 –> 00:30:50:05
A spider. They’re all legs, right?

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They are. Okay. Within two weeks it feels like they’re running 45, 50

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Gain it on 55. I mean,

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And and they’re big. They they

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But they have to be.

00:31:01:27 –> 00:31:09:01
And you look at a do antelope, it’s like, it’s not like they have a big udder like a cow. No, no. There’s like nothing. How are you feeding that to do that

00:31:09:05 –> 00:31:15:02
Out in the desert too, in these weird environments. And you’re like, wow, she’s providing milk for that. They’re impressive kid’s growing like crazy.

00:31:15:07 –> 00:31:18:11
Yeah. Deer fons don’t grow anywhere near that.

00:31:18:17 –> 00:31:22:18
That mama’s taken prenatals that humans could only wish they could find.

00:31:22:21 –> 00:31:30:02
Maybe it’s the weird places antelope live and the weird stuff leaching into the water, alkali flats. Weird.

00:31:30:23 –> 00:31:30:26

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Don’t know. It’s probably all the stuff that’s in the monster. They’re probably drinking that. You

00:31:34:08 –> 00:31:36:19
Can’t ca catch a a fun antelope. There’s no

00:31:36:23 –> 00:31:41:19
Question. I don’t if it’s not within 12, eight hours, I don’t think you got a prayer. No.

00:31:41:23 –> 00:31:46:07
Think about humans. They say I didn’t talk till I was three years old pushing

00:31:46:08 –> 00:31:49:26
For I know. And, and you, you can’t, you gotta have diapers

00:31:51:04 –> 00:31:52:23
For how long? Who knows?

00:31:53:02 –> 00:31:53:26
I mean three years,

00:31:54:11 –> 00:31:58:28
Whatever. I don’t know. We don’t know. I mean it’s, we don’t even know what we’re talking about. But it’s definitely not no three month process.

00:31:59:21 –> 00:32:03:00
It’s not 45 miles an hour within seven days. No,

00:32:03:19 –> 00:32:11:23
No. Or a week Could do five years. And you learn how to ride a bike. Come on. You know what, what’s our problem

00:32:12:25 –> 00:32:32:24
Anyway? It’s just depressive. We were commenting that the other day. They are the, they drop and of course you don’t see ’em. They hide ’em. But so do deer. Deer hide ’em for the first month and then they start falling after four to six weeks they start, you saw there’s some fawns. Okay. Those antelope, when they start following them, the gig is up. They are not afraid of anything. They are

00:32:33:13 –> 00:32:34:22
Gone. Yeah. They’re

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Impressive. Yeah. They’re, it’s like they quadruple in size it feels like in three weeks, I dunno. Yep,

00:32:39:01 –> 00:32:40:23
Yep. Very prolific.

00:32:40:24 –> 00:32:45:16
Here we are talking about antelope. How do we get back on government and antelope? I don’t know, all day. Wondering if back.

00:32:45:16 –> 00:32:45:26
It’s not you.

00:32:46:09 –> 00:32:54:19
I’ve been excited about antelope lately. ’cause I I I got this buck that’s Whoa. You, I don’t know what his deal is, but I’m sitting on the porch the other night. I’m actually playing.

00:32:54:23 –> 00:32:55:28
Oh, it’s your house playing

00:32:55:28 –> 00:33:04:07
My guitar at my house. And this buck walks right up probably within 30 yards serenaded. And he’s just hanging out and really, dough comes up with a bunch of,

00:33:04:07 –> 00:33:09:05
And you’re not really on the edge of the wilderness. You, you are getting the valley here, but you’re not like the last house. He’s

00:33:09:09 –> 00:33:12:22
In the county house. You can legally shoot a gun, but you’d have people on your front doorstep. Yeah. Yeah.

00:33:12:22 –> 00:33:14:02
Right. Yeah.

00:33:14:14 –> 00:33:18:23
I mean, you’ve got a subdivision for all intents and purposes. What’s your property? How big’s your property? Oh,

00:33:18:25 –> 00:33:19:19
I got three acres

00:33:19:21 –> 00:33:21:20
And the neighbor’s around you. An acres is two acres. Most

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Of three to five or 10, whatever.

00:33:23:08 –> 00:33:29:26
Yeah. So you, I mean there’s people that live there. Oh yeah. So he’s chilling out, coming up. Maybe the guy’s little dog feed or cat food got a, a whole

00:33:29:26 –> 00:33:31:19
Herd. We got come on Little babies and

00:33:32:06 –> 00:33:32:14

00:33:32:18 –> 00:33:33:19
Yeah, he’s

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Bringing Do Fons and at Bucks.

00:33:35:21 –> 00:33:36:26
Oh yeah, I got video of it.

00:33:37:03 –> 00:33:37:24
You feeding them?

00:33:38:07 –> 00:33:38:13

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No. You got water on your place. Why are they coming? I wonder.

00:33:41:18 –> 00:33:42:11
I have no idea.

00:33:42:25 –> 00:33:44:19
The music. Well see if you

00:33:44:19 –> 00:33:54:17
Can, here’s a challenge for you Chris. If you can incorporate the word antelope into one of your songs, that might be a hit. I bet you, I bet CT be

00:33:54:17 –> 00:33:55:26
Done. Challenge, no challenge’s accepted.

00:33:56:01 –> 00:34:02:22
You incorporate Mule Deer or Big Buck or something. I mean Aaron Lewis. Huh? Granddaddy’s Gun. I mean there’s some

00:34:02:27 –> 00:34:03:07

00:34:03:18 –> 00:34:03:29

00:34:03:29 –> 00:34:13:24
There. The day that I told you about the Doves and the Quill, who’s the guy that right now he’s got talks about seven and a half Dove loads and Mossberg Pump in the, in the,

00:34:14:10 –> 00:34:15:08
I haven’t heard that one. Yeah.

00:34:15:22 –> 00:34:16:02

00:34:16:04 –> 00:34:17:18
In an, in an environment that’s

00:34:17:22 –> 00:34:18:20
In a Mossberg pump.

00:34:18:20 –> 00:34:19:10
Very political.

00:34:19:19 –> 00:34:20:24
Anyway, he’s Yeah, that’s

00:34:20:24 –> 00:34:22:11
Right. He’s our hero right now. But

00:34:22:11 –> 00:34:23:12
Country, I mean put

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In pretty much buckshot and we’re ready to go. Pretty

00:34:25:02 –> 00:34:28:13
Much Country is, it’s all things we like. Where are we

00:34:28:13 –> 00:34:51:01
At next? You know, we’re starting to shoot our bows. We’ve got the boys out. Sean’s got his archery elk tag in Arizona and we went and he’s shooting 62 pounds and cranking. He’s like, last night, it’s super windy. And he’s like, dad, come on. I wanna shoot 50 yards. Come help me push this pen to 50. And I’m like, no, this target Bronson. And this reminds me why I want big boy target

00:34:51:03 –> 00:34:52:18
Like yours. Like 20 by 20. Oh

00:34:52:18 –> 00:34:59:17
Yeah. Yeah. It’s, I mean, geez. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I’m like, you’re gonna miss, you’re 50 yards in our backyard.

00:35:00:21 –> 00:35:03:25
You’ve got ricochets and houses, potential

00:35:04:04 –> 00:35:07:22
Families, potentially ricochet potential jail time for the rest of your life.

00:35:07:24 –> 00:35:09:13
Chris can’t do that. He’s got a,

00:35:10:03 –> 00:35:22:11
He might stick it out. Want construction. Yeah, that’s right. Yeah. Alright. But anyway, it’s time to get prepared. That’s what we’re talking about. We’re running cameras, buying optics, like it’s our freaking job. Don’t know where the money’s coming from. Well, we, it

00:35:22:11 –> 00:35:25:16
Always fun, fun to talk. We’ve pre list ourselves. ’cause it’s exciting. It’s, I mean

00:35:25:28 –> 00:35:26:19
It is exciting.

00:35:27:04 –> 00:35:27:24
It swirls

00:35:27:28 –> 00:35:29:22
Have to take a deposit from John though.

00:35:30:17 –> 00:35:30:25

00:35:32:01 –> 00:35:49:10
No, I’m just teasing. Just teasing. But anyway, pretty awesome. And, and so if you need any of the gear, you wanna talk about scouting, you want to talk to some members who’ve drawn tags that you’ve drawn and get a place to start, give us a holler. Yeah. If we’ve, if we’ve hunted there, we’re happy to help too. And we do, we help all the time.

00:35:49:23 –> 00:36:26:26
If you need unit maps of the unit you drew, we’ve got that feature on our website, epic Outdoors. Go to the map center. You can click on the G M U Game management unit maps by state. Click on it. The nice thing about those, they come on a waterproof paper all folded up with your unit centered in the middle and the boundaries delineated. So you don’t have standard B l M maps where you’re buying the paper ones. And they’re not waterproof. They wear out after one year. If you use ’em heavy and then they’re, they’re gonna have three to four seams within your unit. You’re gonna have problems. Yeah. Keep that in mind as well. They’re all on our website. Epic outdoors.com Map center.

00:36:27:09 –> 00:36:45:02
Okay. Everybody, we’re gonna call a good buddy of mine, Paul Marshall. He’s a friend of all of us here at Epic Outdoors. And, and he’s a shrink. So maybe he’s got a little advice for all those wives that are gonna be home left alone this hunting season for both, both sides of the marriage.

00:36:45:04 –> 00:36:46:10
Why would you ask him that? I

00:36:46:10 –> 00:36:47:07
Don’t know. Let’s just see what,

00:36:47:13 –> 00:36:51:24
I’d just ask him how the weather weather’s in Beaver County. What tags he has. I mean, geez.

00:36:52:23 –> 00:36:53:00

00:36:53:19 –> 00:36:55:00
What are you doing? And where are you at?

00:36:56:10 –> 00:36:58:20
I’m at the hospital eating my lunch. What are you doing?

00:36:58:29 –> 00:37:00:20
Well, we’re doing the Epic Outdoors podcast.

00:37:02:15 –> 00:37:03:07
Oh my gosh.

00:37:04:09 –> 00:37:05:18
What? Do you need a shrink or what?

00:37:06:29 –> 00:37:07:26
I, I could use one.

00:37:08:24 –> 00:37:10:01
What are, what are all your problems?

00:37:10:05 –> 00:37:17:23
What do you do? What do you have to do when you need one? That’s a problem. It’s kinda like when a mechanic, what do you do when a mechanic can’t fix his own truck? Where does he take it?

00:37:18:06 –> 00:37:19:01
I go shoot stuff.

00:37:20:26 –> 00:37:22:01
Do you you take it out

00:37:22:02 –> 00:37:25:00
On Yeah. Bun Jackrabbits. Huh? You

00:37:25:09 –> 00:37:33:07
Go find some jack rabbits? I I go, I like to be by myself. Yeah. Go drive around the hills by myself. You know? Yeah.

00:37:33:15 –> 00:37:33:25

00:37:33:25 –> 00:38:00:13
That sometimes, especially like Carter’s talked a lot about Covid today. I try to keep getting off the subject of government peering into your cell phone. And you know, every other day they got random ads popping up about something you verbally talked about as you’re driving to lunch and just who’s listening and watching, blah blah blah. But aren’t you, when, when somebody is in that state of mind all that aren’t, don’t you counsel people? Don’t go be by yourself ’cause you might harm yourself.

00:38:01:22 –> 00:38:01:29

00:38:02:21 –> 00:38:04:22
And so have you ever been worried about yourself else?

00:38:07:20 –> 00:38:12:26
Well, not intentionally harming myself, but stupidly harming myself. Absolutely.

00:38:12:29 –> 00:38:14:04
Man. Keep me drive,

00:38:14:20 –> 00:38:17:14
I drive almost as rough as you, Jason. I mean, I’m just saying,

00:38:18:06 –> 00:38:20:25
I don’t know if that’s possible, but if it is,

00:38:20:27 –> 00:38:23:25
At that time we faked me getting car sick. Thrown up on that one hunt.

00:38:23:26 –> 00:38:26:14
Well, you’re in the hospital and you don’t sound like you got a mask on.

00:38:27:25 –> 00:38:29:10
I do not have a mask on. Oh,

00:38:30:19 –> 00:38:31:16
All right. Well, well, yeah.

00:38:31:19 –> 00:38:40:02
I don’t wear a mask. I’m on an anti mask thing. I do like when I’m, when I’m where the patients are, I do wear a mask. But if I’m in my office, I don’t

00:38:40:09 –> 00:38:42:02
What’s your opinion? Off the record?

00:38:43:22 –> 00:38:45:00
Off the record. On a hot mic.

00:38:48:15 –> 00:38:49:00
Got an opinion.

00:38:49:23 –> 00:38:50:12
Plead the fifth.

00:38:51:00 –> 00:39:06:12
Yeah, I think it’s all hocus pocus, man. I mean, I think the disease is real or the illness is real, but I think, I think we’re blowing it way out of proportion. I think it’s like the flu. You gotta get exposed to it and it’s either gonna kill you or you’re gonna kill it and we move on.

00:39:06:17 –> 00:39:09:00
So, you know, beaver County hasn’t had that many cases, has it?

00:39:10:08 –> 00:39:11:02
I think we got 12.

00:39:11:17 –> 00:39:13:29
Oh, geez. Yeah,

00:39:14:16 –> 00:39:27:05
We talked about this in, oh, I threw this out as a random food for Thought fact a month or so on a podcast. Doesn’t Beaver County claim like the best water in the world or something? So maybe it’s something in the water around Beaver.

00:39:27:05 –> 00:39:29:01
Hey, I think it is something in the water. Isn’t

00:39:29:01 –> 00:39:33:06
That, isn’t there a billboard over there that says like, best water on Planet Earth or

00:39:33:06 –> 00:39:34:17
Something like that? Especially out in the Milford Flat?

00:39:35:19 –> 00:39:35:28

00:39:36:07 –> 00:39:36:19
It does.

00:39:36:25 –> 00:39:37:20
It says that.

00:39:38:20 –> 00:39:56:08
I just, I was making sure I wasn’t, and I think I misspoke. I said something about the TV or telephone and now I’ve forgotten which one was like created by somebody that was from Beaver Philo. Yeah, Farnsworth. Was it the phone or the tv? I don’t remember the tv.

00:39:56:12 –> 00:39:56:20

00:39:56:25 –> 00:39:57:24
Was it? Yeah.

00:39:58:11 –> 00:40:03:10
Come on. Utah history. Come back. Yeah. No, for real. It was Utah history. Beaver. I think I missed, I

00:40:03:10 –> 00:40:07:25
Did not know that. Or I didn’t put two and two together. I always think of milking cows.

00:40:08:20 –> 00:40:09:11
Yeah, no,

00:40:09:16 –> 00:40:12:11
It was, and and Giardia because the, the Beaver.

00:40:12:14 –> 00:40:12:23

00:40:12:23 –> 00:40:15:00
And Streams named Beaver. You had Giardia and

00:40:15:02 –> 00:40:20:18
Big Buck contests. I mean, remember all those big buck contests back in the day? They’d go to Vegas and win the Jeeps

00:40:20:29 –> 00:40:25:01
And lead pipe. Lead pipe falls out of the carcass. Because, because they went on weight.

00:40:26:27 –> 00:40:27:06

00:40:27:06 –> 00:40:27:11

00:40:28:23 –> 00:40:29:12
That. That’s a

00:40:29:12 –> 00:40:34:13
Beaver county. Tell me I’m wrong. Geez. I mean, I like people from Beaver County, but I mean, that is a I

00:40:34:13 –> 00:40:35:29
Shit gears. Now I’m gonna be incriminated.

00:40:36:04 –> 00:40:44:14
So, well Paul, I just, now we we’re gonna take some of your time. I don’t want you to, I don’t want these be considered billable hours, you know what I mean? Oh

00:40:44:29 –> 00:40:48:14
Hey. No, as soon as I answered the phone, it we are on the clock.

00:40:49:07 –> 00:40:49:16

00:40:49:24 –> 00:40:50:11
Okay. You know,

00:40:50:14 –> 00:40:56:01
Okay. And so those Swarovski, I know I can’t afford ’em right now, but I figured by the end of this podcast I can get a pretty

00:40:56:07 –> 00:41:07:13
Yeah, Paul’s like Carter Carter. Hey, do you need a deposit? And I’m like, yeah, we need a deposit. I took a deposit from some of our best friends Paul. Like I’m telling you that. It just cr it just tells us who’s serious. That’s all it’s doing.

00:41:08:09 –> 00:41:09:12
It’s true. It’s

00:41:09:12 –> 00:41:10:24
True. And Jason paid

00:41:10:24 –> 00:41:14:11
Me his deposit and I paid him mine. I just gave it back to him. And here’s mine.

00:41:15:04 –> 00:41:15:25
So we’ve,

00:41:16:22 –> 00:41:18:01
That’s the way it ought to be. Right there.

00:41:18:07 –> 00:41:19:25
Hey, so what? Hey, so,

00:41:20:04 –> 00:41:26:04
So you guys should have had me on the podcast. There’s been a couple that like the engagement podcast. I should have been on that one.

00:41:26:18 –> 00:41:29:04
They’re gonna need, yes. They’re gonna need some marital advice.

00:41:29:04 –> 00:41:32:13
That was a cold call teed up. Perfect. That would’ve been perfect.

00:41:32:18 –> 00:41:33:18
That would’ve been perfect. Okay.

00:41:33:19 –> 00:41:38:10
Next week we’re gonna call you Next week we’re gonna get those guys back in here. ’cause and maybe

00:41:38:10 –> 00:41:42:01
You could give them some good advice of what, you know, free advice, obviously

00:41:42:06 –> 00:41:43:11
Non-billable obviously,

00:41:43:11 –> 00:41:43:17

00:41:43:18 –> 00:41:45:00
I of of what not to do.

00:41:45:08 –> 00:42:00:16
Well we just don’t want ’em to start their marriage in debt. Yeah. And tell ’em, tell ’em what to be careful with. And like we’ve had, we’ve had them both say, when do I give in and when do I stand my ground? Those are just natural things that hunters need to know. And maybe you could help us with. Well,

00:42:00:16 –> 00:42:02:18
Turf force, it’s, we’re talking turf force. Okay.

00:42:02:18 –> 00:42:08:11
So you want answer sir? Or do you want No. You know how real handle stuff and gotten in trouble. No, we want

00:42:08:11 –> 00:42:21:07
Real. Just be thinking about that. But we be ruminating that maybe turn to some books, references, things that have some good answers for us, Nick. We want those guys to hear it. If we hear it, we’re not gonna regurgitate it to them. So we want them with this. They’re not here today

00:42:21:09 –> 00:42:36:26
And we’re old enough. We’ve already tripped, fallen stumbled, and we’ve made it this far. And you’re not gonna change us. ’cause we’re old. These guys are impressionable little young. They’re not super young, but they’re younger and they’re starting out. We wanna give them some good advice as, as wise old men, you know what I mean?

00:42:37:09 –> 00:42:43:19
Like going in the camp trailer that your parents got you for your wedding and shooting jackrabbits out the window at like 6:00 AM

00:42:44:05 –> 00:42:47:18
Chipmunks and your underwear out in the lawn chair. It was chipmunks

00:42:47:18 –> 00:42:48:05
In my underwear

00:42:48:09 –> 00:42:50:07
With the 22, 2 50 22.

00:42:50:07 –> 00:42:57:23
Two 50. Okay. But that was back in the day when that was Okay. Nowadays, who knows, nothing goes anymore. Right Paul?

00:42:58:19 –> 00:43:00:08
No, no. We’re in trouble. We’re in,

00:43:00:08 –> 00:43:05:10
We’re in. What do you think about society? What do we think about what we all got going on here and what we’re dealing with?

00:43:06:03 –> 00:43:10:26
We, we live in a world that’s pretty crazy and pretty scary. Yeah. It’s, and anxiety is just simply,

00:43:11:03 –> 00:43:27:23
You know, somebody said they, that Rush Limbaugh was on there and he had a caller call in and she says, you know, I’m nervous about the world I live in. I I don’t know what to do. I’m kind of freaking out. And he says, you know what, you know what you could do the best thing you could do. And, and she’s like, what’s that? And he said, turn the news off for 30 days.

00:43:28:20 –> 00:43:30:11
That’s exactly right. Is

00:43:30:11 –> 00:43:31:02
That the way you’re feeling?

00:43:32:06 –> 00:43:33:29
Absolutely. Rush is correct. I don’t watch the

00:43:33:29 –> 00:43:40:01
News. Golf, golf 18 holes a day and check your truck cameras and stuff like that. Put

00:43:40:01 –> 00:43:43:09
On a t-shirt over your face when you go into a store.

00:43:44:11 –> 00:43:48:00
Yeah. And don’t go to Colorado without a face mask. I found that out. We’re

00:43:48:00 –> 00:43:49:21
Back to government crap Carter. It’s

00:43:49:27 –> 00:43:50:15
What’s on our mind.

00:43:50:22 –> 00:43:57:08
When can we talk about a mountain stuff can do a Mountain Dew zero and a grape snow cone and just, you know, Paul,

00:43:57:08 –> 00:43:58:20
Have you seen those Mountain Dew zeroes?

00:44:00:02 –> 00:44:00:14
I have not.

00:44:00:16 –> 00:44:07:21
Okay. That’s not, it’s not diet, but they’re zero calorie. They’re pretty amazing. Bronson put me on onto ’em. I’ve had four, five ever since. Huh? Zero,

00:44:07:21 –> 00:44:28:07
Zero sugar too Caffeine, zero sugar. Oh yeah. It’s the caffeine is what you’re there for. But Chris, you’re a Mountain Dew drinker. I used to be. Well, this or you did you leave it because the sugar Yeah. And the diet are nasty. Right. I hate the diet. Can’t, you can’t nasty choke. You can’t, you might as well use it as, you know, starting fluid antifreeze, whatever. It’s

00:44:28:07 –> 00:44:29:02
Might as well be draino.

00:44:29:07 –> 00:44:49:12
Okay. But try the zero sugar. It’s like the Coke Zero is 10 times better for me. Carter likes Diet Coke. I like Coke Zero. I think it’s more, has more flavor. It doesn’t taste as diety. Same with Mountain Dew. Zero. And we’re not even paid to say that Mountain Dew. We’re, we’re, we’re nobody to Mountain Dew. So we’re PepsiCo. No, come on. But try and even

00:44:49:14 –> 00:44:57:05
With the surge in, in the sales of monsters since the Epic Outdoors podcast started up, they still don’t have any respect for us. Try

00:44:57:05 –> 00:44:58:12
It. Nothing. No, but

00:44:59:01 –> 00:44:59:10

00:44:59:17 –> 00:45:00:04
I drink water.

00:45:00:11 –> 00:45:01:01
Oh, go ahead.

00:45:02:05 –> 00:45:04:04
Yeah, I, I drink water. That’s it. Whoa.

00:45:04:08 –> 00:45:08:07
You and Wyatt need to talk. That’s another thing you can talk about next week. I’m gonna get you on the podcast.

00:45:08:27 –> 00:45:25:22
We do want you to give him some marital advice. But before you leave us here, Paul, there’s a lot of, we’re getting ready to start the, the scouting season is hard. It’s long and it’s a grind. And both the husband and wife feel the effects of it as well as hunting season as a shrink for,

00:45:26:12 –> 00:45:28:24
I asked him earlier if that is a derogatory

00:45:28:25 –> 00:45:32:26
Term. I don’t know if it is. And he knows. I don’t know. And so he is not even offended. Right. Paul?

00:45:33:19 –> 00:45:36:23
I’m I I’m I I actually take that as a coffee. Okay.

00:45:36:23 –> 00:45:51:23
Okay. What, what’s your, as the head shrink of anybody I know, what’s your, any advice that you got for dudes out there are gonna grind away for a couple months and, and tax the family budget and tax the family time. Any, any advice, words of advice?

00:45:52:18 –> 00:45:58:25
Yeah. Yeah. Be extra nice to your wife when you’re around. Take her on a date once in a while. Amen. Compliment her.

00:45:59:18 –> 00:46:00:09
What was that last

00:46:00:13 –> 00:46:09:04
Compliment? Okay. Compliment be, would you say for, for people that are struggling in marriage, that the lack of compliments is, is critical.

00:46:10:06 –> 00:46:19:14
Yeah, for sure. And I’m appreciation. Most, most people feel unappreciated in their marriage. Yeah. And so you can go a little appreciation. It goes a long way.

00:46:20:07 –> 00:46:27:07
Could you get away with a new pair of Nl Pures if you gave them, you know, say 10 extra compliments or what do you think is there No,

00:46:27:07 –> 00:46:28:11
It’d take more than that. Well,

00:46:28:11 –> 00:46:35:26
You’d probably have to get your wife a pair of tens and use a pair of twelves That compliment, that compliments each other. Is that, is that the type of compliment we’re talking about?

00:46:35:26 –> 00:46:36:27
Maybe Paul,

00:46:38:10 –> 00:46:41:20
I, I think I I don’t know why you guys called, you guys got this figured out.

00:46:41:23 –> 00:46:48:15
5 55. Wow. You don’t get to be 45 years old in 20 something years of marriage and not learn a few things

00:46:49:13 –> 00:46:51:19
And, and much as as you do. Right.

00:46:52:18 –> 00:46:55:07
It’s just called they tap out. Yeah,

00:46:55:17 –> 00:47:06:26
We got good ones. Yeah, we got good ones. But I’m just wondering if, yeah, so I like that so far, Paul, you’re basically compliment ’em, take ’em on a date. Anything else?

00:47:07:16 –> 00:47:11:27
You gotta not sweat the little things. You gotta not sweat the little things. I mean that’s, well, the most

00:47:12:20 –> 00:47:13:17
Come again, the most,

00:47:13:28 –> 00:47:22:11
Oh, I, the most important thing is, is don’t let ’em know that you’re doing it just so you can go hunt more or check cams more or scout more. Oh

00:47:22:11 –> 00:47:26:22
Yeah. It’s gotta be sincere. You gotta have a level of sincerity there. That’s, is that where you’re going?

00:47:28:09 –> 00:47:30:16
They gotta know you mean it or you know,

00:47:30:25 –> 00:47:34:01
It doesn’t even count if it’s Yeah. Yeah. They think it’s hollow.

00:47:34:15 –> 00:47:49:06
So what part in the marriage, like how many years do you see? Is it 15 year mark? 10 year mark. 20 year mark. Where you see there needs to be, you know, maybe you take it for each other for granted a little bit. But is that kind of where we’re talking? When’s

00:47:49:06 –> 00:47:49:23
The honeymoon over?

00:47:49:29 –> 00:47:57:04
Yeah. I mean, when, when do you see that? When you, when do you see how couples need, need to be rejuvenated and we

00:47:57:04 –> 00:47:57:16
Need to talk

00:47:57:29 –> 00:48:03:17
That honeymoon’s over When you start taking quarters out of the jar, you know that old saying, oh yeah.

00:48:03:18 –> 00:48:04:24
Okay. Yeah, yeah.

00:48:05:07 –> 00:48:05:23
Okay. After,

00:48:05:28 –> 00:48:06:18
After a year,

00:48:06:18 –> 00:48:12:18
So the first year married, you put a quarter in the jar for every time you have a significant interaction and then, yeah.

00:48:12:20 –> 00:48:18:06
And then you’re gonna spend those the rest of your life ’cause you got a supply that, that whole analogy.

00:48:19:12 –> 00:48:19:20

00:48:19:24 –> 00:48:20:12
Okay. Okay. For

00:48:20:12 –> 00:48:23:02
Sure. So say that again. When you start taking them out,

00:48:23:26 –> 00:48:26:07
When you start taking quarters out of the jar, the honeymoon’s

00:48:26:07 –> 00:48:27:05
Over. So one year. Okay.

00:48:27:07 –> 00:48:28:11
One year mark. One year,

00:48:28:26 –> 00:48:58:15
One year mark. And you know it, you know, that’s, that’s a tough question because everybody’s different. But in general, the longer a person stays together, the easier it is to take advantage of your, your spouse house. And so, and then until you get probably retirement age. And then I think that that gear shifts and then it’s, it’s back on. Okay. And, and you know, you gotta be friends with your wife because when you retire, if you don’t have her as a friend, then you don’t have any friends. And then it’s problem. When

00:48:58:15 –> 00:49:06:21
You said it’s back on, did you mean I, I mean I’m not, we’re not, we’re not a retirement nature. You mean it’s back on, you’re putting, you’re filling the jar up back really fast again.

00:49:06:25 –> 00:49:12:20
You actually learned to appreciate each other because you’ve No, you didn’t

00:49:12:20 –> 00:49:17:04
Mean that. Okay. Just checking. I didn’t know what you meant by, it’s back on. I don’t, I don’t know what

00:49:17:05 –> 00:49:20:16
I’d be looking forward to. Walk us through it, Paul. I mean, walk us through it.

00:49:21:00 –> 00:49:24:22
We, we could make some stuff up here and have some fun with it, but, you know, I gotta kind of source

00:49:24:22 –> 00:49:25:27
Out. No, be honest. Be honest.

00:49:26:17 –> 00:49:30:21
Yeah. No, you don’t ever put quarters back in the jar? No. I wish

00:49:31:04 –> 00:49:31:10

00:49:31:25 –> 00:49:32:02

00:49:32:13 –> 00:49:36:27
But, but usually that gets better with retirement, but not enough to put it in the jar. Yeah.

00:49:37:14 –> 00:49:44:16
Okay. Yeah. Huh. So I hope they’ll, alright.

00:49:44:18 –> 00:49:46:16
So, so who’s, who’s all there with you right

00:49:46:16 –> 00:49:51:25
Now? Just me and Bronson. Chris and 10,000 other people have downloaded this. Chris, Chris is

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Running. I

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Can, Hey, you know, I, I should put out my email and my number so I can get some advertisement. Right.

00:49:58:20 –> 00:50:04:13
Well, Paul, we have no problem with that if you’re, I don’t know, as long as you don’t lead ’em astray and Yeah. You know, we,

00:50:04:28 –> 00:50:15:01
We can’t, we have what we call Epic approved outfitters. We don’t have epic approved shrinks per se. You’d be the first and we don’t know what it means to endorse you. We don’t

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Know what that means. And we’re gonna need some, we’re gonna need some references. I mean, we’re friends and all, but we do, although you did give us some advice with raising kids, remember, remember that Paul, let’s talk about that real quick and then I’ll let you go. Go. You’re probably about done with your lunch. What’d you have a salad? I don’t, I don’t know. What’d you have?

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No, I,

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Okay. Alright. Alright. Remember when we had a certain child and he, he, he, he was defiant and wanted to go and do, he didn’t want to get ready in the morning. We wanted to go to Walmart and he wanted to be in pajamas and not do his hair and not even brush his teeth or nothing. And we were like, and we were like, no, you’re gonna get dressed and you’re like a normal person and we’re gonna go to Walmart. Right. And you were, you said, go ahead.

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I said, take him to Walmart in his pajamas and see how that works for him.

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And it, by the time he’s 14, 15 and 16 years, years old, the social pressures will fix this kid.

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That’s exactly right.

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And did you do that?

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Actually yes. For that, but yeah. And

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Time he changed our relationship. The

00:51:13:23 –> 00:51:17:05
First time you said all get your, getting your under go in your under changed our

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Relationship because we let him make a decision. That’s all he wanted to do. Yeah. He, he didn’t didn’t wanna be

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Enforced to do anything of what he wore, kind of. And it wasn’t even, he wasn’t going nude. He was just wearing pajamas.

00:51:27:13 –> 00:51:39:01
No, he just wearing pajamas. And you’re just, you’re embarrassed as a mom or a dad. But at the same time you’re thinking, well, now that we’re a little older, there’s no reason to be embarrassed. ’cause there’s no parent judging another parent with a kid screaming at Walmart. No. You know what I mean?

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With the first kid, we worry about that after that we realize it’s nobody judges other parents.

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And so that, that helped us a lot. And then we did learn a lot from the love languages. Oh. You know, learning what these love languages were and realizing that we were violating some love languages in levels of punishment or whatever, and realized that wasn’t a good parenting strategy either. And it helped us a ton to kind of acknowledge that

00:52:05:29 –> 00:52:07:20
It’s true. Love languages are great.

00:52:07:20 –> 00:52:14:07
Yeah. Kids are different. They are. So, and the, and some of ’em want gifts. Some just need words of affirmation. Some, it’s like they are, yeah.

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Some need for quality time or service or whatever. And it was, is there a, is there a book out there real quick, Paul? And this is just a, a parenting book because we went through it. Is there a love language book that you recommend?

00:52:27:02 –> 00:52:29:14
Just the, the basic book Love languages. Okay.

00:52:29:18 –> 00:52:31:08
Okay. All right guy. Well, that’s

00:52:31:22 –> 00:52:41:04
Actually is a parenting book that I do recommend. It’s, it’s a great book. It’s, it’s called Raising the Emotionally Intelligent Child. It’s by a guy named John Gottman. He’s fantastic. All

00:52:41:04 –> 00:52:41:28
Right, guy. We’ll

00:52:41:28 –> 00:52:44:29
Check with you another time. Appreciate your words of wisdom. We do.

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Be safe. All right. Be safe. Don’t loot. Don’t steal. And we’ll, we’ll talk to you next week.

00:52:50:05 –> 00:52:51:13
Thanks guys. See ya. All right. Talk

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To you later. Bye. Bye. Before

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We’re close today though, I would like to, and I’m sure a lot of our listeners are thinking of this type of thing. What am I listening to? This is a cross between Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Phil, Dr. Laura, Dr. Phil, dude

00:53:08:00 –> 00:53:12:07
From the Epic perspective. And, and it’s Affiliates. Affiliates.

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Dr. Laura Schlesinger is our

00:53:15:11 –> 00:53:26:06
Affiliate. I don’t know. Ball is. Ball is. Well you see, he’s got valid input. He’s been a good dude for years. Yeah, he is perfect. Slightly crazy. But aren’t they all? No, he’s,

00:53:26:06 –> 00:53:27:18
He’s he’s not. He’s just,

00:53:28:14 –> 00:53:34:02
Anyway, it, yeah, it’s scouting. There’s a lot of things going through our mind in this. A lot.

00:53:34:18 –> 00:53:43:20
Environ, a lot of highway time. A lot of alone time, windshield time. A lot of 116 degree temperature days. If you’re in Nevada or Arizona.

00:53:43:21 –> 00:54:08:01
Eight stroke. I mean, it might’ve affected us. We might’ve had it and didn’t know it. Now we’re now the effects are coming out in a podcast. Anyway. Alright everybody. Well we appreciate all the support of everybody listening. We’ve got guys out there even winning. We should, by the way, we should throw out a, a little prize, maybe epic hat and decal or something like that. Should we do it for what? Just, just for listen listeners, we’ll do a random draw. Instagram

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Tax day giveaway.

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Tax day giveaway. I like it. Even rings day. Giveaway. Giveaway comes out tomorrow. Do that

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Tomorrow. Let’s,

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Let’s 15. Let’s

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Give a G 45 significant NG 45 pro camera

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Too. Okay. The NG 45 Pro with lockbox.

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Epic Outdoors, razor light, outdoor edge, razor light knife, decal hat and the leather patch hat. Call it a day. And how do they enter Chris to

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Enter? We’re gonna, we’re gonna do a post on this, on Instagram on tax day. So this is our tax day giveaway.

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July 15th.

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July 15th.

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So go to our Instagram epic hunts and we’re gonna have a post there about this giveaways. Follow epic hunts. Follow epic optics tag and tag two friends in the comments of the post. I already

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Follow on following us. Just, just tag two people if you’re already following us. Both. Epic optics. Epic hunts. Tag Two people and that’s it. There’s no hashtag to remember. Don’t. If you wanna put a hashtag unique one about tax day giveaway. Yeah.

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Put Epic taxes, epic Tax

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I don’t know.

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And we’re not gonna send you 10 99 for the free ka way. No.

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How’s that? And it makes,

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That’s our tax. There go.

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Go. Not gonna 10 99. You the 150 bucks for all this stuff. How’s that?

00:55:28:08 –> 00:55:30:18
Full retail Might be more with the hat decals. Everything.

00:55:31:28 –> 00:55:35:08
But it’s under 600 bucks. So I’ve been told you don’t have to do that.

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Oh right.

00:55:36:03 –> 00:55:42:26
So the deadline will be Saturday the 18th. Perfect. At midnight or at 11:59 PM 1159.

00:55:43:04 –> 00:55:47:23
’cause you’re the only one. Open that or awake that late. Unless I fell asleep at five 30.

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Five 30. 1130. Bro, it’s gonna be waiting six hours.

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That’s a perfect six.

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I know. And that’s all we need was messed up. The older we get, the less we need.

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I was messed up. I took a sleeping pill and took me three hours to fall asleep. Somehow I managed. Managed a

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Couple hours. Hey everybody. Well we appreciate y’all listening. We’re going to lunch. Everybody out there. Don’t steal. Don’t loot and get out. Scout.