EP 317: First Look at the New Swarovski NL Pure 14's!

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Hey everybody, Jason Carter, Adam Bronson, most of the Epic crew here. We've got a special guest, Kobe Croft, coming at you from Swarovski. Special guest, right Kobe? Super special. Super special. And, you know, when Kobe comes into the house, that means one thing, right? New SKUs. New cool stuff to talk about. I was going to say he needs a drink or something.

We've already talked about the happenings of the last few days, which, Logan, you better not have recorded. But we're going to dive right into this one. A lot of times we start in slow. Of course, it's the end of application season. We're going to crush that tomorrow, right, Bronson? Yep. We're going to cover that. We're super excited. App season's over. Now we're going to have some results coming out. We've got people making final plans. Just a lot of things happening. A lot of plans being made. And with that comes products. Products being purchased, used. Devin, you just sold a gun. We were waiting on you for the last 10 minutes. Sure enough, you're in there selling a rifle. Yeah. Really? Sorry. Nice. Sorry, guys. I thought you guys, I'm like, I'm good. I'm just... No. You're here. We won. Bought a 7PRC. Nice. 22-incher. Going to put a can on it. Got a Dutton tag.

Speaking of which, I think you've got a 7PRC coming. Yeah. Maybe. I like that. Within days or weeks. Maybe a week. Days. Piles of ammunition. Boxes upon boxes. Yes. Stock up at the selection. You need a lifetime... What you call a lifetime supply. It's a lifetime supply. It's usually not enough, but... No. You don't shoot coyotes with that rifle. No. But you could. You could. It'll work. At $2.50 a round. Yeah, that would work. Oh. Jason, nobody has... I don't want to know. Nobody has that figure out the top of their head. I really don't want to know. We know what it costs. I'm going to do that math here. Depends on if you buy the powder recently or back in 2012. It's not math you want to do. You want me to know what you... That's what you're paying for a round. Bull crap. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are.

Wow. That's lunch. That includes the brass. That includes the brass. Yeah, you've got to keep that. It includes the brass always. That's what they call a sunk cost. Right? Something like that. That's the best money you ever spent. All right. So let's talk about the best money we're ever going to spend, Kobe, on some new products. This is next level stuff. Sometimes you guys come out with new products that doesn't really affect the Western U.S. Sure. Right? Yeah. Like there's things that the Europeans want or... Yeah. Global brand. So we have to cater to it. Maybe it's low power stuff. Sure. A lot of the eight power stuff like that. When we're coming out with 10, 12, 14 plus type vinyls, you've got our attention. Yep. Why don't you take the floor and let's hear what you've got to say. So we have a brand new extension of our NL line. We have an NL 10 by 52 and 14 by 52.

Now, is this a 14 or is it a 14 plus? 14 point something. We kind of like to call it a plus. Yeah. For sure. Internally, we've been calling it that. Yeah. Once you name a kid, you can't start naming it something else. That's right. So the Epic, when people say 14 plus, you know they came from Epic. They came from you. Yeah. So yeah. So that's the way the math worked out, essentially. We used a lot of the platform from the existing NL binoculars to build this new binocular. And so. It seems like. I'm going to cut you off. It seems like you said about 70% of the internal workings. Right. For sure. Yep. So this is really our first product where we, from the beginning, we platformed. We built it as a platform to build new products on top of. The NL. NL. Correct. NL is the old SLC or whatever, from way back, 1953. Sure. Right, right, right. Whatever. Yeah.

Just roof, prism, binocular, but with a whole bunch of advancements. And of course, the new 52 has all of those as well. But yeah, this will, it's a little more than a 14. It's a 14.3 or 14.4 or something like that. But we couldn't round it up. We couldn't. Yeah. We couldn't. If you'd have done a 14, Bronson and I were talking, if you'd have done a 14.55 or 14.6, we could just round it up. You know, if you get a 494cc, you know, motorcycle, they call it a 500. Yeah. My truck's a 3.4. And they're lying. My truck's a 3.4, but they call it a 3.5. And they're just lying. They're just lying. Straight up. You guys call it a 14. We're not lying. But here at Epic, we'll sell you the 14 plus. So 14 by 52. It just feels better. It is spectacular. Yeah. So two new products. Yep. The 10 power with a 52 millimeter objective. Yep. What does that 52 give you on a 10?

Well, it's going to give you a bigger exit pupil, which is going to work better in low light. So it's a 5.2 millimeter exit pupil. A 10 by 42 has a 4.2 millimeter exit pupil. So you're going to get more light to your eyeball in low light situations. Field of view is roughly the same. It's a little bit bigger, but that's mostly determined by the eyepiece. How about glass quality? Glass quality is the same as existing NL. Identical. Yep. So Bronson, tell me what your initial thoughts were. You had both of them side by side. You had the 1042 and the 1052. Yeah. I don't know what it was. Obviously, it's 10 power, but maybe it's 10.1. I don't know. Because we've learned that they round down. Let's call them the 10 plus. I love this plus. So anyway, you looked at it too. We had one of Cedar City's finest road construction guys out there at about a mile and a half, two miles.

And he had Rocky boots on. We could tell at three miles. Yeah. But it not only did it feel like, it felt a little closer. I don't know how. I don't know how because it says it's a 10 power. It felt like we were looking through an 11 power. Like an 11? We both said that. Adam said it, and I looked at it, and I looked at it, and I was looking at his shoe, and I was like, that's a 10 and a half shoe, maybe 11.

Come on. And then I looked in the other bino, and I felt like a 12 shoe. Yeah, like a 12 shoe. Have you just seen spinal tap? I don't know what that was. I was going to 11. I don't know what that was, whether it was just the more light, and maybe your eye processes it better. I don't know. But yeah. But anyway, so your point is. Felt slightly superior. We're going to be at low light, or say the last hour. Sure. That's when we're. That's the magic. First and last light. That's when the magic happens. That's when everything moves. Yeah. Yeah. Then that's when we're going to see the difference. We're out there in 90 degree weather. Three in the afternoon at 90 degrees. Yeah. And we had heat waves, you know. Yeah. So it was. Not at that range we didn't, but other ranges we'll talk about in a minute we have. But very impressive for somebody who wants a 10 power. So that's the 10 power.

It's super exciting. What are we coming in? Do you have the measurements there as far as the weight and the rough pricing? Matt pricing. Yep. On the 10. 10 by 52. 10 by 52. Pricing is going to be about 34.50. Okay. And they're going to weigh about 36-ish ounces. 36 and a half ounces. Okay. And do you guys remember pound-wise, Bronson? Let's see. Divide that by what, 16? I know the 12s were about 31. Two pounds, four and a half ounces. Two pounds. Okay. Two pounds, four and a half ounces. Yeah. All right. So then let's move to this 14 plus we've anticipated for a minute. It's been super on our mind. And you've only told us just very recently when you signed up to come down here. Sure. And we're trying to plan a date to show us the product. But tell us a little bit about it. Sure. We're so excited about it. Everybody's been wanting a 15, an NL 15. Right. Right.

That's what everybody's been wanting. That's the most common question we get when we go to consumer events is when is there a higher power NL coming? So it's good to finally have it on the, you know, ready to go. So the interesting thing is, is in most of the world, our growth in our binocular sales is not in high magnification binoculars. It's mostly a U.S. product. They're usually, they like smaller binoculars and maybe even lower magnification in a lot of parts of the world. So really it's a Western U.S. too. Yeah, especially in Western U.S. Why tell? Right. Exactly. You don't want them. Exactly. So pretty much designed specifically for the kind of use that we use in sport. So we could call this the Epic 14 plus. I think we should. We could even let Swarro use that. Just use it. Perfect. I'll run that up the flagpole. Hey. See how it goes.

We'll just brand our logo right to the side of it. I like it. I like it. Just heat stamp it. And I know where we can find a brand. No, where are you?

All right. So a couple of cool things about the 14. It's intended to be used on a tripod, of course, like the SLC-15 is. So we've developed a new adapter as well. And the 14 comes out of the box with half of the adapter attached to it already. So that's with the bino side. Correct. The female side. Correct. And this adapter, for all intents and purposes, is similar to what we've done or other companies have done. Yeah, very close. And now you're just edging us out. And you're welcome. So anyway, it comes from the factory. Yep. Original equipment from the factory to be able to slap on a, let's call it an SLC adapter. Sure. It's very much like the SLC adapter. The difference is the male part is on the adapter. The female part's on the bino. So it takes a little stress off the hinge. But the exterior part's identical. Yeah. It's just the workings.

This is a proprietary 14 plus or 10 by 52 option. Yeah. That's all it is. Yeah. But in fact, starting now, current production of the 12s, of all the other NL products will come out of the box with the female part of this on it as well. So going forward, those will start to show up in the marketplace. Those that are in production in the next several months. And going backward on the 12s and 10s, any of the NL line, even the 8s, you guys would retrofit. Absolutely. Yep. If you buy the adapter, you can send your binocular to us and we will retrofit the female part to your binocular for free. For free plus shipping. Yeah. I'm not sure. The details exactly. But yeah, the install will be free. And if you buy the adapter, we'll have some kind of mechanism in place to verify all that stuff. $200. And to be clear, yeah, if you have a Swarovski SLC tripod adapter, that doesn't matter. It won't.

It's not going to work. It's not going to work. It's going to work with the 15s or the 12 piers with our stud. But it won't work with the 14s or any of the 52s. It won't work. For any of the new stuff, you're buying a new adapter. Yeah. Yeah. Unless you buy a generic adapter like we sell or whatever. Yeah, there's a bunch of them out there. This came out pretty nice though. So let's go through some of the X's and O's of the new 14 plus compared to the 12. Which everybody's going to want to know how much, quote, better, different are they than those? Sure. And then the 15 SLCs. Do you have that? Yeah. So, yeah. Let's go through the dimensions. Yeah, I do. So because you go up in magnification a little bit, you lose a little bit of field of view. But the field of view in the 14s is still enormous. So if you compare it to the 12, the 12's got a 339 foot field of view at 1,000 yards. 339.

339. Yep. The 14s have a 279 foot field of view at 1,000 yards, which is smaller, of course, but you get a little bit more magnification. The biggest difference though is if you compare it to the other stuff that's out there, like if you just compare it to the SLC 15 by 56, which is a fairly new design. We refreshed that, what, five, six years ago, something like that. It has a 234 foot field of view at 1,000 yards. So the field of view of the NLs all have a giant field of view. And that's a 56-millimeter objective too. So it goes along with that technological difference we talked about when the Pures came out. Exactly. The bigger field of view with the 42 at the time. Yep. Maybe it's the 0.6 more magnification. Maybe. I don't know. It takes a little. Or maybe those 15s, maybe they're really not 15s. I don't know. Maybe they're 15.3s. Yeah. Or maybe they're 14.7s.

But, yeah, so a huge wide field of view. So you get all the advantage of the current NL. You get that small, slim waist that you can get your hands around. Really good ergonomics. You can. Really long eye relief. And then that huge wide field of view. And usually trade field of view and eye relief. Usually you get one or the other. You don't get both. But through some Austrian magic, they've figured out how to give you both. But, yeah, so weight-wise, the 52 comes in about 36 1⁄2 ounces. The 42 is about 31 ounces. So you're paying a, what, 5 1⁄2-ounce penalty? From the 12s to the 14s. From the 12s to the 14s. But if you go to the 56 SLCs, it's 42.3 ounces. So it's a significant weight savings over those as well. It's another almost 6 ounces lighter than the 15 by 56s. These 10 by 52s and the 14 by 52s, 14 pluses, they're the same weight. Or a, I mean, within an ounce. Yep.

Within an ounce. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like the 10 by 42s to 12 by 42s. They were essentially the same weight. So do you feel like Sguaro is producing what everybody's asked for? Hope so. Yeah. We think so. It feels next level. Yeah. It's impressive to look through. I was telling you before I've had them on a tripod and looking out the back window of my house for like the last week, and I cannot walk past them without looking through them. And there's nothing to look at back there. I'm looking at birds and grass and whatever. But yeah, they're just spectacular. They're a really, the field of view gives you kind of a more immersive image. It's like, you know, we talked about it when the NL42s came out. It's almost like taking one step into the image. It's like IMAX versus regular. The same kind of thing. It's like, especially if you contrast the, compare the 1556 SLC, which is fantastic.

Yeah. And the high magnification binocular by which all others have been. They're not going away, right? They're not going away. No, they'll stay around. As long as they keep paying their way, they'll stay around. But yeah, side by side, it's apples and oranges. What I thought was amazing was the 12s and the 14 pluses, side by side. 12 by 42, 14 by 52s. Yeah, that was. It was no joke. It was more than two power. It's that phenomenon like when we used the 12 Pures next to the old 15 by 56 SLCs, you didn't really feel there was a difference. No. Wyatt did a little bit. He was probably the only one that's like, I don't, I feel like I'm giving some power. I think the crispness, the clarity, whatever you told that, immersive, that felt, that overrided what you felt like, or at least the numbers tell you you were missing in magnification to me. That's what it felt like to me.

It felt like what everybody's talked about, what they feel like they've been missing with the 12s, you know, that just a little bit extra reach. Yeah. It's there. But the clarity overrode. Yeah. Trumped. It just trumped the SLC 15. Sure. It did. The clarity on the 12 trumped the SLC 15. Yeah. For most people. Yeah. Wyatt was one of the one guy. I think, no, he liked the crispness. He just, I think he felt there. It was the magnification. He wanted the magnification. And I can relate to that. I mean, with 12s, they're freaking awesome. But sometimes, like, deer, distance, distance, you're like, just that little bit more. Little bit more. Yeah. And those 14s are going to have the best of both worlds. It's pretty awesome. They were, you know, we did a test here. Again, three in the afternoon, 90 degrees. Perfect. Plenty heat waves. But we're looking at, what, three, four miles?

Was it four miles? Yeah, it's three and a half miles, four miles. To the top of the hill. To the mountain. And it still has that same slim design as the 12. A little bigger barrel, of course, objective. I mean, it has it. It's just a little longer. The narrow. Ten more millimeter. The narrow figure, the necking down, which I like because I have it. You've got to choke it. Yeah, I choke it down. And you can pull it right to your eye. I mean, I don't. I hold them steadier that way. You can't hold a 15 that way. No. You can't. You can't. I mean. Adam would say, you can't get your mitts around it. Can't get your mitts. And I don't have a big, big mitt. Unless you've been milking for the last 20 years. Yeah, you have to have been a milker for life before they had electronic milkers. Yeah. It's not that much bigger overall. But he said, if you have gloves, you're fine. No, you're right.

It's not that much bigger until the very end. Until the very end. Yeah. That's it. The bell, the bell or whatever. The objective. It's the same design. So that's all you're going to notice. I think just holding them. They're just slightly longer. About an inch, it looks like. Maybe an inch longer. Yeah. About an inch longer is all. And, you know, the neck, I'd say, is the same size diameter. But it barrels are long. I don't feel like you're going to handhold the 14+. No. No. You're not. You can handhold the 12s. Yes. Yeah. You can get by with it. They're a little jitter. We've said that a lot. Tiny. But you're not going to. You're going to have the jitters. To me, I even felt like the 10x52 needs to go on a tripod as well. To me, it felt like the similar effect that the 12 now has. You know, you're like, oh, it's good enough to hold.

But, man, when you throw them on a tripod, it really made it that much better. The only thing that will save that 10x52, I think, is the power magnification. Yeah. When you've magnified that power, you're going to notice those little bit of shake. Yeah. You magnify your hand trimmer as well. That's right. Yeah. But it's heavier. It's got a bigger bell on the end. Yeah. Just a little bit heavier. So that 42 is just a better bino for a handheld. Right. Yeah. I think it's two different use cases. I think the 12x42 will do everything. You can carry it around. You can put it on a tripod. You can do all that. The 14x52 is more of a like the old. Put it on a tripod. Put it on a tripod. It's like the 15. It's not going to need to go on a tripod. Yeah. I thought if Saguaro ever came out with a 15, 14 plus. With a 15, it would be a $4,000 bino. Right.

So I'm just impressed that it's going to be, and I hate to say affordable. Because it's dang near what we used to pay for four-wheelers. Right. Exactly. More than my first car. But it's what we're used to. For a very top-end bino, you're talking three and a half. Well, it doesn't. $3,500. And plus or minus. There's member deals or whatever. I mean, but we're just saying for that ballpark of price, you've got the very best bino. Yeah. There is no more top-end than this. There's no more top-end. Yeah. You can't buy a better bino at a 15-power bino. No. Yeah. So anyway, it's a 12. It's an NL 12 by 42 on steroids. Yeah. That's what it is. It's the same shape, same design, slightly bigger. And clarity and color, identical. Yep. Identical clarity and color, I felt like. Maybe at crack of dark, we would notice some light gathering and whatnot. Yeah.

We'll see if Kobe leaves him with us for a week. We'll have to let it out. We should give away this first pair. Just give away myself. Kobe himself. That'll go over well. The first pair that Kobe himself from. I can do anything I want on my last day.

When should I ask that? The proprietary pair. We're trying to decide. If I gave these away, it would be today.

However, there might be a pink eye disclaimer. You might get pink eye. Traveling all over. Kobe, tell us about. You've never put a pair of binos to your face at shop. No. No, you do not. Why is that? Because that's how you get pink eye. Because of the moist eyes. Everybody has. Do you know people that have had that? I do know people. I figured. Well, look at the countries that are there walking around. I mean, the countries there. It's like three quarters of the world. Yeah. Or it can converge there. In terms of the countries they converge from. Yeah. That's my medical advice. Is don't put binoculars to your eyeballs at shop. Good point. Yeah. I'll never do it again. That's why the eye cup's screwing. I'll never be able to do it again. Dude. That and earplugs. I do not need to see beams inside the building. 50 yards. That bad. You remember sheep show. I didn't touch binos.

Because I looked like I had pink eye. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You look like a rat. I had eye surgery, and I looked terrible. We haven't heard anything from that. Well, tomorrow. Going in the morning. Early. Oh, yeah. Jason. Moving on. Rip that scab off.

How did these binos look to you, Devin? Which eye? This one? Through your good eye. They're amazing, yeah. It's awesome. They're pretty impressive. We're super excited. I think they'll do really well, and I think you guys will do great with them. Well, they're made for us. They're made for Western hunters. We got three of the six pairs sold here at the office. They're sitting around the table. How fast can we get them, Colby? What do you guys got on that? The start of delivery is going to be mid-July. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Middle of July. Awesome. Well, all right. You heard it. It's going to be a frenzy when this goes live. So, I hope you're ready. Because they're going to almost sell themselves. Yeah. It's what, you know what I mean? We should be ready. People that have used the 12s, the 10s and 12x42s, knowing what you went through today,

the very slight increases in weight and things like that, but the magnification, which is dramatic. I mean, I can't, it's not two power. I'll just put it out there. It's more. It's impressive. It doesn't even, it's not even. I mean, a 12 next to a 14 is like a 10 to a 15, what it used to be. It feels like that to me. Yeah. It's very dramatic. So, with only four to five ounces or whatever it was. Sure. I forget what that was. Yeah. From a 12 to the 14. Yeah. Five ounces. Five ounces. You know, Swarro's trendsetter. I feel like everybody's trying to catch Swarro. Yeah. On new products and releases and excitement and, you know, paving the way for what we want. Yeah. Our motto is always improving that which is good. So, anything, you know, we're always constantly innovating. But 12 wasn't that exciting until the NL12 came out. Sure. Like a 12 power bino just didn't excite anymore.

Yeah, there wasn't really that much out there. Either went from 10 to 15. Yeah. So, then you guys made 12 popular. And became our best selling binocular. Because of the clarity and color. Because the next level shape, size, handhold and handhold. And you can handhold it. Yeah. So, anyway. Well, we're going to keep, if it's okay, we're going to keep innovating. Yeah. If that's all right. Well, that's all right. Okay. That's awesome. You listen to people, what people say, and all of a sudden, poof, we have a 14+. I just want an NL18. An NL18? Jason. 17+. 17+. 17+. The epic 17+. I'll send a couple emails. We'll see what we can do. Okay. Please do. And maybe blind me on this. I want to make sure they go out.

All right. Well, pretty awesome. We appreciate you, Kobe. Thanks for all your support. Yeah, thank you. Thanks for listening to the Western Hunter. You know, the guys out here are pretty discriminating on long distance class. And they're willing to pay for it, too. Yeah. You know? Pay for great products out here. Feel like you need it. Yeah. Like, you're missing out if you don't. Yeah. So, there's going to be a place. There's still going to be a place for the 12s. Adam and I have talked about it. All of us have. Yeah. Just the chest. One by now, if I'm hiking two miles straight up on top of Mesa's and things that we do, Adam's sheep hunting and weight's a deal. And you're staying over multiple nights, maybe, and you're like, I don't want to, you know, an extra, you know. Yeah. The 12 might be the three pounds. Sure. Whatever. You know, sometimes you have room for both.

Sometimes, you know, two and a half, three pounds is two days of food. Makes a difference. That you can stay out longer. You know what I mean? So, you have to leave something. Yeah. You know, a lot of times on a backpack sheep hunt, I take my 12s. You know, I can get away with both. I can handhold them. I don't like a 15 or a 14 when you're trying to kill something at 300 to 400 yards. I don't like that. You know, and so I'd rather have the 12. It backs it up. But when I throw them on a tripod, they accomplish 95% of what I'm going to need. This 5% is worth the money, and you're going to buy a pair? Oh, absolutely. But that 12 has its place. You're not selling them. I'm not selling mine. No, because I like that ability to chest vinyl harness. If I go up north on a sheep hunt, stone or doll, I'm taking my 12s up there. I don't, you know. You don't want a vinyl quite this big.

I mean, these are definitely going to have their place. They're now the true tripod vinyl that you're going to put in your pack. Like we used to have. But, I mean, I'm not getting rid of my 12s. They're very versatile, I guess I'll just put it that way. You know, whether you're hunting mule deer, whether you're hunting sheep, handhold them. They're steady enough for me. I've gotten used to that. But when I need more, and I'm, you know, say 80% of my hunts, all of us, we day hunt, you know. And so, I can have another 2.5 pound bino or a little over 2 pound bino in my pack. It's not going to hurt my pack. It's going to be 27 pounds instead of 25. So, it's not going to affect anything. I'm going to have both there. I like it. We could talk about the 8s. That's my favorite. Adam teases me about it. Well, Jason's got into whitetail last year, and that's a totally different discussion.

And, Bronson, you're going to hunt archery deer, and you're going to wish you had 8s around your neck. But, I'll rent mine to you. I've also got 10s, and I've got EO range 10x32s, which I think are the best. I love those. For archery. Little cutesies. I like them. But they're still 10 power. Might be a little aggressive. You like the 8x42? Is that what you're talking about? So, I have an NL 8x42. I do, too. I love it. I do, too. I love it. I'm an 8-power guy, but we're weird. And remember, the 8s match your eyes, right? This whole theory we talked about last time earlier. It's got the right exit pupil. It's got the correct exit pupil. Whatever. That's what I'm talking about. Right, right, right means right. That's right. So, 8s. I have 8s, 12s. All the poor kids are using 8s. I'm going to have the 14 pluses. And we're not going to sell anything. And I can't wait, right? More gear, right?

Yeah. It's going to be fun. You've got to have them all. Yeah. I mean, right? Buy the whole set. Collect the whole set. I'm kind of excited about it. So, anyway. Fun stuff. Well, I appreciate you stopping by. For sure, you just ruined the lives of many wives and husbands out there and their relationships. Hey. Yeah, this is going to come out before Father's Day, right? Oh, what a perfect Father's Day. They're going to hear about this before that. And I know a lot of guys out there are going to say. You could be the most. If you're a wife listening, you could be the most amazing wife ever. Ever. Just give them a little coupon. And, hey, give them a link to the Epic Outdoors podcast for Father's Day. And then about a month later, you can get them in the mouth. It may improve relationships. Maybe they'll be more successful in the field to get home sooner. They'll get home sooner. Yes. Yes.

But some wives probably like their husband to be gone. Just keep him out there for two weeks. Some women just need to know how to play the game. Just play the game. I don't like this tree. We're barking out there. I don't know. I'm not either. I'm very uncomfortable. Yeah. So just as a reminder, when are we scheduling for deliveries? Mid-July. Mid-July. Yep. Okay. And if you're interested, call us here at Epic Outdoors. We'll get your name on the list. We'll get you a set set aside to start us off with this hunting season. Yep. So it'll be awesome. And we're going to stick to that. You think we're going to happen? Yep. Mid-July? Yep. Okay. We're holding you to it. Okay. All right. Super exciting. You've heard it here on the Epic Outdoors podcast. Pretty exciting. Good stuff. Devin, you got anything else? I like it. You're just thinking about that gun you got covered.

No, I'm excited about those. I was thinking I'm going to be the first one to go make the pre-order list and put my name in the top just to beat you. That's what he was doing. He wasn't buying a gun. Josh keeps a second list. We all know. There may already be one. So, Kobe, I'm sure there's new products coming out at some point down the road. Yep. Anything you can tell us about or just tell us, yeah, they're working on good stuff. Always working on new stuff. Okay. We'll have you back when you're ready to talk about the next something. But this is, we've been eager since you told this. Until yesterday. We had the best glass going until today, I guess. We still do. Yeah. We're going to. Like you said, different intended uses. Things like that. Got to have a pair. Absolutely. All right. Okay. Appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. All right, everybody. Thanks.

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