In this episode the Crew calls Jared Mauck, a hunt winner from the 2024 Summer Hunts Giveaway to ask him about his experience. He won a New Mexico antelope hunt for two with TG’s Trophy Hunts. He and a friend were able to get two awesome antelope on the first day of their hunt. We also fill you in on the details for the rest of the hunts available in the 2025 Winter Giveaway. The deadline to enter is coming up soon so don’t wait to get your name in the hat for some world class hunts! Finally the crew discusses a few new items available through Epic Arms.

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Hey everybody, Jason Carter, Adam Bronson. We got the rest of the crew kind of parts of them. It’s a Friday. We’re half staffed. Let’s call it, we got Logie. Bear at the freaking computer. Keyboard. How you doing Logan? I’m doing good. Good. John. We got you. How are you? Doing great. What’s so great? John’s always pushing us like, I don’t like to be pushed. Bron, do you like to be pushed?

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No. Why is

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John so pushy? It’s a job, man. It’s to push you to get to,

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Hey guys. There’s always a deadline. This and a deadline. Pretty

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Soon he is writing people notes and getting mad.

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Speaking of deadlines. That’s all. Why it operates under too License out. I mean it’s this deadline. That

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Deadline. Why? Why? Why do you have to give us deadlines? Why? Why do you got going? We’re

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Just coming off the deadline

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Now. What’s going on? What’s going on on your side of the office? Well,

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Just little reprieve, I guess. After Arizona deadline this last week.

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It is. We even went out for brunch the next day, didn’t we? Yeah. Like we promised. I think we probably promised what? Maybe on a hot mic. I don’t remember if we did that or not, but we did it anyway.

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Yeah.

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11 o’clock brunch. That

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Was, we did all American

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About three or 4,000 calories of breakfast. Goodness. Of lots of meat, huh? Logan, Republican.

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I did, yeah. Red breakfast. That’s what we had.

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Logan had the pigout that had every, every pork, breakfast meat and he left two, three quarters of it on his plate. Oh,

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Juice box doesn’t have much in him. No,

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I guess not. I thought I’d be able to take it, but I can’t.

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When are you gonna be a man, Adam? He left a whole side of hand.

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Adam put away like 8,000 calories in one meal. I can’t keep up.

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Well, you can’t. We planned it, didn’t we? We kind of knew. I probably had a, had a balanced breakfast. I didn’t know I

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Was supposed to fast for three days before we went there.

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I mean, you did leave an entire side of ham. It was unbelievable.

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Sausage

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Patty won’t happen again.

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Okay,

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Well good. But anyway, yeah, so we’ve had some deadlines coming, gone and we got more coming at us Course Wyatt. Some of the non-essentials, let’s call it Oregon Bear Bears

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In Utah. Barr In Oregon.

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Barr In Oregon.

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Probably Barr in New Mexico and Turkey. Crap.

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But

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Why? We’ve been talking

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About that. Well, Nevada guide draw’s coming up. How about that?

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That’s in March.

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You and I went and checked out some odds on our website. On our website. You can go to Nevada and it’s the deer rifle hunts that matter on the guide draw. That’s the only ones you can do on a guide draw. And you can do a dropdown on our website. Go see the regular odds. Go see the guide dogs. Yeah, just talk, go see the resident odds. Right.

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Go toggle back and forth. And if you, or even 50 50 on whether you’d hire a guide that might put you the OV edge. The other thing is you find out about two months earlier Yeah. Than the others instead of into

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May point. So your regular points work in the guide, draw your guide, draw. There’s no such thing as guide draw points. So if you have deer points, they work here. If you apply on the guide draw, you can’t apply in the regular draw for rifle deer for anything Deer, let’s just say. Except for there’s always these exceptions. Yeah. Except for the Silver Street

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Dream tank. Silver State, PIW and Partridge and Patriot.

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Okay. Alright. So, but looking at the odds, some of them Bronson 10 times better. It was unbelievable. And some are three times better. Yeah. And if you’re not so much, it’s, it’s at least double.

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Yeah. Even in the best units, it was like triple.

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Yeah.

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The best units in the state.

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So while the initial list of tags seems

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Meager.

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Yeah. Like there’s not that many tags in the guide draw, but just from the mouse, there’s also not that many tags in the regular draw. No. You know, with coming off the, he on the heels of a drop and they’re, they’re managing for 30 to 35 bucks per hundred dose, depending on the unit is

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Here. We can start.

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Oh, there’s Devon.

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You betcha Devin. Devon’s serving and giving in there.

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So what we’re gonna have to do is Devon’s a pretty particular guy. The mic might be a little hot or soft, the ears might be a little hot or soft. What do we got? Let’s see if this is Dude, is it perfect? Copy,

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Copy, copy. Oh,

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Perfect. Sound good?

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Is it perfect? It’s perfect.

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I’m fine.

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Come.

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I don’t know

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You beat, I mean a little

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Echoey, you know.

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There we go.

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I got a little echo. It’s got a little

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Trill in there that

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I can’t get. What’d you do to this cord? What? I didn’t do

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A thing exactly.

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A little hissing.

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What did I miss?

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Just teed up.

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Nothing. Nothing, nothing. Really. Just guide, draw Nevada guide, draw alert and talking about how good the odds are in, in almost every single scenario. March 10th, the deadline. Yeah. Yeah. March 10th. Deadline.

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Like I said, if you’re even considering a guide or you’re likely to hire him anyway, it makes complete sense. You can have better odds than you find out two months earlier that you drew.

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So this February issue, I like it. By the way, this February issue, we got Utah and New Mexico, Wyoming, sheep, moose, goat, elk and bison. Bronson, we had to break it up for the first time in epic history.

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Yeah, we did. Well it’s probably better. Those, those states have also moved all their deadlines or, or species, sorry, in Wyoming, moose, sheep, goat, bison, and moved all their deadlines to April 30th. It used to be. Yeah, February 28th for Moosh, sheep, goat, Wyatt. And then bison was what? 15th of March and then April 1st. And now it’s just all the 30th

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One, the deer in the antelope

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And it’s good, you know? Yeah. So yeah, it’s nice. So we, they weren’t quite done with their online hunt planter and identifying the units non-resident could put in for, for moose, sheep, and goat. And once they did that, we finalized it and went print. So held off, wanted it to be held off from the

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Almont. So here it is in February, and then in February we’ve normally had Oregon. We’ve kicked it to April. So with a March 15th deadline in Oregon. So,

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All right. May 15th. Yep.

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Did I say March 15th? Yeah, I’m an idiot. It’s alright. May 15th. It’s been May 15th since I was in diapers.

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And we know a lot of other stories since. Yeah.

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Come on. Come on. Everybody’s been in diapers. Of course. Mine were washable from what they say,

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Washable in the Green River. Just what happened. Colorado River. Come on.

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Really? We’re gonna go down those roads. You teed me up.

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I mean, geez.

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Okay. So there’s certain people that worked with my dad in the Division of Wildlife that say they, they like to admit that they’re dangled

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You over the Colorado over ride. We changed your

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Divers. Well, no, no you didn’t. I don’t remember that.

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So whatever. I don’t think somebody would make that up. Ugh,

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Geez.

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Anyway, I know they just getting my goat. All right, so let’s move along also within this February publication, John, we wanna talk about epic hunt giveaway. That’s this the last month. This is the last month that you can get in. That’s it. So it’s, it’s somewhat of a, of a short membership drive, but it’s also significant. We’re giving away dang near $200,000 in hunts from Yukon doll sheep to Yukon Moose, elk and Utah, New Mexico, elk, Nevada Mul, Utah, mul, New Mexico antelope. And the gear package, of course, $10,000 as a bonus. But anyway, we want to kind of go through that real quick. Is this is another opportunity to do world class hunt. Some of these obviously, you’re not gonna be able to, you know, draw a tag and a drawing like you can in Colorado for Deere or something like that. And so you’re able to get a ticket in the hat for a Yukon miss, which is rare, right? It’s kind of hard to find a, a place that you can play a, a raffle or a draw or some type of a membership drive situation like that.

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Those are a couple of studs bucks. Geez.

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Now they are,

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Geez, they’re talking New Mexico antelope prior here. That’s one of the hunts we’re giving away. We gave it away last year. Devin. We

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Logan’s throwing it up on

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The screen a lot of times. We talked to Devin about when we’re hunting, hunting something we’d want ourselves. And Devin found one of these, right?

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Devin. Devin

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Dev found

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This. Devin feeds his family on a yearly basis with these things. Huh?

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I’m plum out of that stuff.

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All plum outta

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Ann. I need another tag.

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I think as I remember the other day, Devin was begging Adam for the orx meat.

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I told you I’d take a, just a plain old hind quarter, I mean

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Shoulder, little front, front shoulder,

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Maybe a forearm send you

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Maybe just, you know, the scraps grind it up.

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I you gotta finish caping out in the head and stuff. I’m like, figure what I can come up with.

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Those are some awesome bucks. Yeah, that’s with old T Gore down there in New Mexico. So called him up. He usually has a couple openings and

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They were awesome bucks. We

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Got two spots. Well he does, if you, if you plan an events like what we’re doing with the membership drive and they, they killed a couple of incredible bucks, gave this away last go around. And that’s what we’re doing this, this year. So get your name in for these, any of these hunts by March 3rd. But I think, John, are we wanting to Yeah,

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Let’s, let’s call the,

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The hunt winner from that. Just barely got off this hunt last

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Fall. Okay. So we’re gonna talk to Jared. He, he actually went on this hunt the most recent, the most recent

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Last August. Yeah, same hunt we’re giving away now last

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Year. I remember what he won. Didn’t we call him and be like, did we ask him if he had any friends? And he’s like, yeah, I knew I had this plan. I already have a friend. I know who’s going,

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I have a friend wants, we’re

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Gonna find out to go out the rest of the story. As Paul Harvey would say,

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Is he dead? Yeah. Is he for quite some time? Man, he’s such a good dude. I listen to Paul Harvey. We grew

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Up know who Paul Harvey.

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What do

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Seven.

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We don’t know who Paul Harvey is.

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Oh, I know who he is. The rest of

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Of the story status. There’s alive

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Or

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Dead rest of the story. I was thinking of the TV show host. What’s his name?

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Oh, KUTA. Oh yeah.

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I was in a game and fish truck listening to Paul Harvey. My whole growing up. Weren’t you bro? You were too brown. Oh

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Yeah. Am seven 90 San County.

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Yeah. I mean,

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Still got the call.

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We’re a family feud guys. Steve,

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Come on Steve. You come on. You know it’s Oh, that’s blast from me. Steve Harvey.

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Steve, you would’ve been in, you would’ve been in Monticello country. I was in Moab country. You

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Might on the same stage.

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You and I were listening to the same show probably. Alright, how about that? That’s true. There’s connections everywhere. Yep.

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Just right after you outta the diapers.

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Go on. I probably listened to Paul Harvey in diapers. Probably I wore diapers until I was 10. Hey, he was

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One of the first kind of new slash talkie radio guys. John, I mean, that was probably whoever all this you all you young Gen Z or slogan. Go look him up.

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Look up Paul Harvey right now. The most famous radio voice in Yeah. Ever in history.

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Him and then then Rush Limbaugh right after. Okay, there we go. Alright,

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So

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It’s in black and white. Go ahead. Photos

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Of him. Come on Devin, you guys,

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I cannot

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Believe we were born in the early seventies or I mean, geez. Yeah, but it was all, all color. He, but he probably was earlier than that, but early seventies. He still,

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He’s legit man. Anyway, he, well he lived and died

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By very dignified radio,

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Lived and died by his voice. Radio was a big deal back then. I mean,

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Look at that President Bush. I was just say Presidential Medal of Freedom or something on his neck. What is that? I mean, you don’t get those handed out to everybody. Doug Middle War

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II veteran.

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Okay. Alright, alright. Alright. Onward and upward. Upward. Let’s call Jared. So let’s give Jared a call. Let’s talk about some antelope speed goats. Devin, we might even let you take over. This is so

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Exciting. Speed goats and the land of enchantment.

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I want to know who killed the non-typical,

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What do you mean? Look, those,

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They

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Both have inners, inner cheaters. Yeah. Yeah.

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That one’s got a That’s true. I didn’t,

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There. Hey, we got official score here. Wyatt. Are those, if they’re over an inch, are they a deduction on an antelope?

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No. You just don’t measure ’em. Good. Just ignore ’em.

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They’re

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Just, so how do you know if you had double prongs, how you know which one would count? Longest one.

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That’s, that’s a tough one. You’d probably just take a longer,

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I

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Wonder if they’ve ever made a double pro.

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I don’t

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Know that I’ve ever seen a double

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Pro. I don’t think so either. I don’t think so. It’s

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A good, good thing. They don’t, don’t. What did you deduct on that? Everything length an all four mass measurements on an antelope? Or is it like sheep where the length, length on sheep doesn’t get deducted medicine

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On

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Antelope? It doesn’t,

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Just like you’re saying right there. Just,

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But it would affect the mass under that prong right there. If that’s where the mass lane was, right? Yeah, a little bit maybe.

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I don’t know.

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It’s got some stuff.

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You mean all the bumps? Yeah. Yeah. That’s when you use a cable. So that’s why they use a cable. Why? Because you can fit right through. No, you gotta use a quarter inch steel tape on the mass measurements. Oh,

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Jeez. See,

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There’s a, there’s a

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Caveat to, there’s a good reason we got wt there.

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There’s a caveat to everything.

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Everything. Nothing’s easy, Wyatt.

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Nothing’s easy. You only use a cable on the lengths of what? Antlers. Antler game, elk and deer. Yeah. Antler game basically. Yeah. Steel tape for still tape for sheep. It is true. I mean, I just thought you were being lazy to not wanting to cable it. Geez. And do the tape.

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You’re not calling. Why?

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No, I just, I just wondered. Sometimes the cable’s out and sometimes it’s not. But there’s, I learned there’s a reason why it does it. I’m

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Gonna throw you a live line and get you outta this hole. Let’s call Jared right now. Yep. And see how they did and what they thought about this particular hunt we gave away. Here

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We go.

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That’s your headset. Evan

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Didn’t sound right, did it? No.

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Ah.

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He was like,

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It

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Was the FaceTime audio. Could you?

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Oh, I don’t,

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Hey, you there Jared?

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Yes, sir.

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Hey, Jason Carter and the Epic crew here. How are you?

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Good. How’s it going gentlemen?

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Doing good. You’re doing

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Great. Sorry I hit you with the FaceTime audio. I don’t know these, these phones are new to me. I just, I dunno. Well,

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You know that, that, that technology in old age don’t go together very well.

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No, and that’s hurts too. That hurt. I,

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I, Hey, hey. I, I, I can relate to that remark because I, I screwed up quite a bit.

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Do you know who, do you know who Paul Harvey is?

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Oh yes.

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Oh yeah. He’s one of us, bro.

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He’s he is,

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He’s one of us. You are over 50 years old, aren’t you?

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No, I’m not over 50

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Paul Harvey. Okay. Well, half the Roomer didn’t even know who he

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Was today. Some of these kids were looking at it and they’re like, 40 aren’t are you guys are mid thirties to upper thirties. They’re looking at us like, who are you? What are you talking about? I think Paul Harvey was the most famous radio voice in North America.

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This is the rest of the story. That’s right.

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Exactly. Deon thought he was, was the guy that hosted Family Feud.

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Devon’s got

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Questions. That was Steve

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Logan over here at 22 years old. Is you Googling the heck out of him. AI is spitting out answers.

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I just wanted to see if we were alive at the same time. We had a little, we had a little bit of crossover. Yeah. When did, how long ago? About nine years. He died in February 28th, 2009.

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How old was he?

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I don’t know how

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Old he was. Well, anyway, we’re off on a tour. That’s the rest of the story. But anyway, we wanna talk about this antelope punt. Let’s, that you went on Jared, like just kind of get the, the real scoop from you and what you thought of it. And, and of course, Devin over here, he loves antelope like crazy. And anyway, we’re looking at your kill photos, trying to judge one of those bucks. You guys killed an non tip.

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Got a lot of stickers on him, looks

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Like. Yeah. Yeah. That yeah. I I I heard about Devin’s love for antelope. So

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Antelope meat

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Can’t eat the horns. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about this hunt.

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No, no. We, we had a great time, you know, with, with high over there and whatnot. But yeah, the won the hunt on the Y’s, so I think it was a summer draw

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Yeah. Membership drive

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And Yep. And yeah, like, you know, con conversation with him and communication was awesome. You know, we went down there, drove down there because I was, I was in Colorado and so we, my buddy that I put picked to go with me.

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How did you pick him? Like is that’s, well, seems like Devin remembered when we called. He, he asked if you knew a friend. I think

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We asked you, do you have any friends? And you were like, yeah, I’ve got a plan for this

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Very clear pattern or plan. It seemed like

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I, I, I actually had that one planned for, for one of two people when, when I put in for it. And it was a matter of trying to decide was, is it gonna be my best man at my wedding or somebody else was at my wedding. And the guy that I picked is from Iowa. And I ultimately landed on that decision because it’s like, you know what? He doesn’t have the opportunity to come back western hunting very often. Yeah. And him and I do a lot of coyote hunting in the, in the past and stuff like that. So it’s like, well, that’ll be a good opportunity for him. ’cause the, the other guy I had, it’s like, you know, him and I hunt elk together and hunt deer together. So it was kind of like, well you’ve, you can have that opportunity anytime you want. The, the other guy from Iowa can does not. So that’s how I made that decision. And it, it wasn’t the easy decision. I, and I may have, may have jeopardized the friendship over that one when, when the other guy

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Didn’t, you know, it’s not a genuine friendship if all they want you for is antelope, it’s not genuine use you,

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But Yeah. Yeah. You know, I, I called him and let him know. And of course it was the whole deal of, he’s like, well, I gotta ask my wife. And, and about five minutes later he is, he called me back, goes, I don’t care what the wife says we’re, I’m going,

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Whoa.

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Okay. I want to go on record that I care about my wife and what she thinks. Well,

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I I I think it came with the stipulation that he had to take her on a cruise later in the year. Yeah. So they went on a, they went on a cruise here in January. So yeah, that was kinda the stipulation was, but called him and let him know. And he was excited. And we started all the paperwork and stuff with Ty and then, like I said, the, you know, hunt rolled around and we left here and, and drove down there on Friday and got the camp and just an awesome setup. You know, they’re there in the little town in Mexico where, where we stayed at and had great food and Yeah. Went out first morning. Well, a little bit backstory on the way down. I was, I kind of kind of like to joke and pull pranks and I, when I showed up and called Tide and I said, you know what’s, we’ve been driving for four hours or six hours in New Mexico. I ain’t seen an antelope one. And he, he was kind of taken back at first, but really warmed up and yeah, we went out opening morning and drew straws for who gotta shoot, shoot the first one. And I let, I let my buddy shoot and, and he missed the first one at like five 40.

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Good poke. Yeah.

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It was a good poke and, and

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Hard to range antelopes sometimes to get a good range. So hard.

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Well, and, and we had, it wasn’t ideal conditions. ’cause that weekend we went down, it was set to be hot. I mean, it was a hundred and 103 on Friday when we went down there,

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But it’s a dry

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Oh yeah, yeah,

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Yeah,

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Yeah. But no, it was, it was hot and windy the entire trip, but it was, it was still good and, and got out, I mean, left camp, we were seeing antelope immediately and I, you know, coming from Colorado and I’ve hunted Wyoming, Colorado for antelope, and I could tell immediately that we were gonna have a good hunt just ’cause the, the quality of bucks was a lot better. Yeah. And what I’m used to seeing and grew up seeing. So it was just, we just saw a lot, lot bigger bucks and a lot more of them. And, you know, after I got that first miss, we kind of drove around and there were six groups in camp total, or six people in camp total between the, the two of us or the hunt. And then it was a guy and his best friend and, and the one guy’s, two daughters. And they’d never hunted before and never shot anything. And I think they had a little side bet between the guides of who would kill the first goat. And I, and I believe the first goat was dead by nine o’clock and it was one of the girls.

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There you go.

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And and this was still, like I said, everything was on all an opening day. I mean, we kind of drove around and, and was kind of, kind of dead midday. And about three o’clock we hit, we got a phone call from another group of one of those other people and they said, Hey, he’s like, we missed a buck over here. I think you guys need to take a look at it. And, and went over there and, and saw him and it was immediately new. I was like, that’s one I wanna shoot. And we kind of trailed him for about two and a half miles and he ended up bedding in Sania and we slowly walked that way and he jumped up about 200 yards and I let the old seven RPRC bark and spoke to him and

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There you go.

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And then, oh, about, about an hour later, we were heading back to a spot, we’d seen another antelope that was on the, actually on the opposite side of the road, we could hunt. And we’re, we’re driving along and, and all of a sudden we look up and it’s like that, that goat is a hundred yards on the correct side of this road. And just

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Probably chasing your truck, probably chasing your truck

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There. There we go. And it was just a matter of, it, it, it was so fast that I remember the guy just goes shoot that son of a gun. And, and so we jump out and, and, and my buddy Brandon jumps out and puts a gun on the tripod and shot his goat and, and right there, I mean, it died 20 yards off the road. Geez. And, and because it, yeah. If it had, if it had gone another 20 yards, of course it was on the road and couldn’t shoot, but on his side of the road it was property that we couldn’t access.

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Pretty awesome. So here in an hour, you both had one, well, first day, but an hour within each other. First afternoon,

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Geez. Yep, yep. Within each other. And we did, earlier that day, we did find a goat that probably would’ve gone high ladies, maybe low nineties that we tried to get on. Wow. And never could. And he was just, he was the same way. He stuck a hundred yards inside property we could, did not have access to. And, and we tried him for a little bit and just never could get him pressured to make a move. But ultimately he ended up tagging five of six of us in camp on the, on the first day.

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Wow. Wow. So is your buck, they’re they’re totally two different looks to him. One’s kind of that non-typical one’s really heavy at the top. Is that your, which is, is your buck the one that’s heavy at the top or

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My mine’s buck that almost comes together and touches? Yeah, yeah,

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Yeah. That’s a good, that’s

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A great, he kind of, he’s got that classic heart. He’s got that classic heart shaped to him and he comes together and touches and almost heavy. Yep. And he was a little bit, a little bit shorter. He ended up, he ended up scoring about 74.

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Yeah.

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75. He looks, he definitely looked a lot bigger

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There. Yeah, he looks big

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There, but I mean, still a, a great goat and he obviously the biggest goat I’ve ever killed to date. Yeah. And, and my buddy scored 80, I wanna say 80 or 81 and five eights.

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Geez.

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That’s crazy. And then one of the other guys, the last guy to tag out, he actually, he missed that. They, they went out and hunted that big buck that was 90 and right before dark and he missed that buck at about 150 yards. And of course, you know, being can’t camp being what it is, we obviously gave him a razz in quite a bit and everything else when he got back, but they ended up finding out that his gun had lost an action screw.

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That’s a problem. There you go. Yeah.

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And so, so it was off. And so we went out, we didn’t, we didn’t go home right away. We went out Sunday and, and kind of helped do some scouting and stuff and do some looking and, and he, they got another buck Sunday morning and this was before they found out his gun was off and they shot again at about 500 yards and missed. And then we decided to hit camp and that was the buck. They sent you a picture of us, got the really wide splayed out horns.

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Yeah.

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And he, he ended up killing that buck with the guides gun at about 4 95.

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Yeah.

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But, but yeah, a great hunt. I mean, the quality was awesome. They’ve got a buck out there that they call the Ford buck. That is the first one my buddy missed. And I guess that buck has been shot at, missed 27 times.

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Come on. Whoa. It must be an older buck, huh? What did you

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Call it? Yep. The forward, forward buck forward.

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I’m thinking it was a Ford Buck Ford truck. Oh my God. Was chasing the forward. Yeah. I didn’t know how he had either. Okay. The forward buck got it

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Forward. Yep. He, he comes out, I mean he, when you look at him from the front to profile, he’s, he looks wide like the other one, but he comes out almost straight

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Gotcha.

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Parallel to his nose. Wow.

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And he’s big,

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Big, yes, he was. He not, he’d he’d be, he he’d be in that low 80 range. So Yeah. Good buck, good size, buck. Yeah.

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But yeah, just the, the, the quality of the hunt was amazing. You know, everybody we met at camp was awesome. The, the food food was awesome. We had a great time and I, hands down would do it again. I’ve already been talking with Ty about different hunts and stuff since Yeah. But just had an amazing time. I mean, that was just awesome. And, you know, made my buddy’s day and he was able to take home a really nice buck. And, and he actually, he, he called me when you guys put your, your ticket ticket sale up and he’s, he called me and he goes, I am putting the X amount of dollars in and every ticket is going into the analyst.

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That’s good. That’s what it’s about. Well, he is got until March 3rd to get everything in there. So last day to buy it’d be March 3rd. March 3rd. So it’s coming, coming at us pretty fast. But anyway. What an awesome hunt. Really glad you guys got to enjoy that. That’s just awesome. Doesn’t get better than that, you know, of course some, there’s a fine line between killing early and then enjoying the hunt, the full hunt. Right. Like getting the full hunt. But then you can’t pass bucks like those, you’re gonna pass an 81 inch or 74 looks like that. I mean, just super thick, incredible buck. I mean, just, wow. Just awesome. Super glad for you guys. How many bucks did you guys see? Like total

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Guess, guess in one

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Day?

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In, in one day easily. We probably easily looked at 15, 20 different bucks easily in just that first day. Yeah.

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Wow. And, and that and that. And we, we didn’t even hunt all their, all their country they had access to. It was just, we’d find little pockets and there’d be, you know, and there was, there was a couple smaller bucks that we looked at and, and went whatnot and decided that, you know, and we passed on ’em and I, and I know when I showed up, they were kind of asking me what kind of buck I wanted. I was like, well, you know, I’m one one, you know, I wanna try to find an 80. And as soon as I saw mine though, I was like, yeah, I don’t care what size he is. I like his character. I like the way he all comes together and almost touches like, that one’s dying. Yeah. That one’s, yeah. That one’s gonna take a dirt nap. Yeah.

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What does he have on the inside of his homes? Like cool little knobs or something?

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Stickers. Yeah. Yeah. He’s got a few stickers. They’re

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Both really cool. Yeah, they are. They’re awesome. Stickers is dead. Yeah.

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The, the only thing I will say is that choa in that country is no joke. Oh

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Yeah.

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Those and those antelope aree cho tough because that thing, well they eat

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It right? They, they’re eating it like milder do flowers

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And stuff on, I, I don’t know what they, if they’re eating it, but I mean, he would fruits hover in that thing. Jeez. And just, just, and that, and they, they, they would say it’s like, oh yeah, those, those will goat will go and rake and whatnot. I mean, he had those stickers all over when we were keeping ’em out. It’s, I feel like I spent more time pulling thorns outta my hand than I actually did skinning. Yeah.

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Wow. Pretty awesome. But yeah, that’s pretty awesome.

00:26:33:22 –> 00:26:33:28
But

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Yeah.

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How

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Many, how many coyotes did you guys see? I always laugh.

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Really? Not that many coyotes we saw, we saw a couple, we, yeah, we, we, we did talk about trying to talk one of the, ’cause one of the guides, there was a die hard Kyle Hunter. We did talk, try to talk him into taking us out on a night and doing a little calling. But yeah, we, we, we couldn’t get him quite talking to that. But it was

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Got other antelope hunters hunting out there. And you’re blowing,

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Just does something when you go out there and act like a dying rabbit. But it just does something to the other game around.

00:27:04:20 –> 00:27:05:05
Yeah. Yeah.

00:27:05:28 –> 00:27:06:05
Ede,

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I kind of like drastic y’all. It’s really hard for me. It’s like whenever I’m deer hunting or elk counting lesser something close and I see a Kyle, it always turns into Kyle Hunt.

00:27:15:15 –> 00:27:56:06
I, I’m the same way I’m getting it. And this last year especially was hunting white tail and sitting in stands and doing this and that and they, they, these guys try to get you to kill ’em. They want you to kill ’em. And they say it doesn’t affect the deer. And anyway, I was passing, passing, passing, didn’t want to, you know, ruin my own stand. But finally this one, Kyle was sitting there staring at me and he’s less than a hundred yards. And I’m like, and I was watching it and it was on a dough and the dough’s watching the Kyle. And I’m like, alright, I’m gonna shoot this dog right in front of the dough. I freaking it turned him inside out and that doe just sat there and looked and she sat there and looked and watched him. She didn’t run. No. Went back to feeding. So you went back to

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Could’ve killed

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Him all week. Could’ve killed them all week. I was so disgusted with myself and now with suppressors. Oh yeah. There’s not gonna be a coyote that gets away from now on. I’m gonna be shooting, they’re gonna be lead in the air.

00:28:08:23 –> 00:28:14:13
I, I’m, I, I’ve become one of those stomps, I’m kind of, I’m kind of one of those that if like, if you don’t have a suppressor, I’m not sure I want you hunting with me.

00:28:15:11 –> 00:28:16:01
They spoil you

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A big deal on predator hunting for, for follow up shots or second or third dog in the bunch

00:28:20:20 –> 00:28:22:25
Or whatever. Yeah. No use blowing out your ears.

00:28:23:21 –> 00:28:38:06
Yep, yep. But yeah, no, it’s, it, it was a good, it’s a great time. I mean I, you know, being in Iowa and stuff with Iowa’s laws, you know, they have to have straight wall cartridges. So my buddy called me up and he’s like, Hey, you have a gun for me. And it’s like, oh, which one do you want?

00:28:39:10 –> 00:28:40:22
Yes, yes I do. Yes,

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Yes I do. Which, which one do you want? So we, we, we did all that and, and they have, you know, we showed up on Friday and Chit Chat, those guys and Bs and we were, we were there, I think we were the first group there. And, and then they went out and shot everything, you know, make sure everybody’s all on and the rifle and show you how to shoot off a tripod and everything else. And it was just a great time and just a world of information and the, you know, the guy that I had and we, Brandon and I sat and drove with and yeah, I, I would recommend that hunt to anybody and, and I am going to put a few tickets in that one for this year as well. Awesome.

00:29:13:05 –> 00:29:15:24
What, what calibers did you settle on? Just curious.

00:29:16:21 –> 00:29:24:22
So I six, I was shooting my seven, I was shooting my seven PRC. I just, I’d actually just built it and finally got a load worked up for it. What, what drink

00:29:24:25 –> 00:29:26:00
For your Iowa one buddy?

00:29:26:09 –> 00:29:29:15
He was shooting a, he was shooting my two 60 ley improved.

00:29:29:19 –> 00:29:38:16
Okay. Oh, okay. So yeah, great time. A couple of great trophy animals with the best meat on planet Earth. Right,

00:29:38:16 –> 00:29:41:09
Devin? Yeah, it’s up there.

00:29:41:29 –> 00:29:47:00
It’s up there. Not quite like moose, but it’s up there. I mean, if you go to your wild game freezer. Yeah. Yeah.

00:29:47:02 –> 00:29:47:11
It’s,

00:29:47:11 –> 00:29:48:09
Yeah. So,

00:29:49:08 –> 00:30:09:12
Well, talking to Ty, I had, I had talked to him about the firearms and whatnot. We were discussing distances and everything else. And when he told me what some of the shots could be, I said, I said, so, so we’re far enough, that means I can bring my 300 Norma. And he kind of, he kind of balked at that one a little bit. He, he, he, he looked, he goes, he goes, do you want anything left of the antelope when we’re done?

00:30:10:04 –> 00:30:23:05
Hey, I shot one. Okay, so it’s your, my kids actually, my kids shot one with 3 38 rum and it died just the same. And it was a chest shot, it was just fine. Everything. We ate all the meat. So everything was good.

00:30:23:24 –> 00:30:32:25
Well, that’s what I told him. I said, well, if we really wanted to kill him distance, I can bring out my 3 3 8 lapu and we’ll just go from there. But yeah, he was, he was, he was like, he goes, that might be a little much.

00:30:34:13 –> 00:30:43:12
All right, well, anybody got any other questions? Nope. Sounds like a fun hunt and glad glad you guys were successful and got some awesome bucks. Yeah, great

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Pictures too. Thanks for taking good pictures and

00:30:45:13 –> 00:31:02:24
Yep. Show, well, like I said, everybody was successful and you know that the second guy, the last guy that killed, he killed late Sunday and killed that. Not really nice buck that he has that’s, that comes out and it comes really wide and it’s unfortunate they don’t score annual up under spread because that one would,

00:31:04:07 –> 00:31:16:17
Yeah. All right. Okay. Well, sounds good. Yeah, well, we’ll let you go. We sure appreciate visit with you and, and again, congratulations and just, just, awesome. So glad it turned out so well for you.

00:31:17:22 –> 00:31:21:23
Yes sir. Thank you very much and thanks for the opportunity and, and thanks to all you guys do.

00:31:21:24 –> 00:31:22:23
Alright, thank you.

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Alright, bye.

00:31:26:25 –> 00:31:33:25
How about that? That’s awesome. That’s great hunt. Great guys. Doesn’t get better than that. That’s kind of what you hope for. It ain’t

00:31:33:25 –> 00:31:34:24
Fun. Awesome. Yeah.

00:31:35:07 –> 00:31:51:19
So let’s see. Let’s talk about the, the rest of the giveaway real quick. You can get in a, you can, you can join a friend, right? Yeah. So we can refer a friend. Wait, I just had to ask. So the 90 inch or if I follow the story is still alive. Well, it’s still alive and we always have, that’s why I’m writing. We always, well Bronson, you’re over here scribing

00:31:51:19 –> 00:31:53:06
Notes. Let’s go. I’m like, let’s go. No,

00:31:53:11 –> 00:32:33:09
Let’s go. All right. Okay. So here we are. So you can, you can get your name in the hat by referring somebody and the new member would get his name in the hat. So there you go. So both of you get a ticket. If you refer somebody, get ticket in the hat and then you can purchase tickets, one for 35 for 1 25. And then there’s a graduated scale. Of course the, the more tickets you buy and the little bit cheaper per ticket it is. And if you buy the $250 or $500 package, you can get the choice of a knife or headlamp. And, and the $500 package gets you into a raffle. Four hunter’s choice. Yeah. Hunter’s choice. $10,000 to anything that you wanna put it toward as far as a, a big,

00:32:33:09 –> 00:32:39:22
Just basically introduce you to Devon and you’d have a shopping Cree, let’s do it. Devon’s done it many times. This guys, it’s kind of fun.

00:32:40:03 –> 00:32:55:03
Alright, so Bronson, you wanna start us off? We’ll just talk about these hunts a little bit. Sure. Kind of go through what we got, what we’re giving away. And, and, and to start off with, I guess just a little bit is we’re picking these hunts is if we weren we were going ourselves

00:32:55:12 –> 00:33:38:23
Well, exactly. And the, and the other thing is they’re all this year, which you can’t buy all of these scents for this year. This year we bought these a year and a half ago or two years ago in some cases. That’s what’s unique. We’re gonna be giving these away in early March, but all of them are for 2025. So, you know, testament to us working with great outfitters. People that we know, we know we gotta buy ’em in advance. But we’ve got a couple of hunts. I guess maybe we’ll kick off the first two in the Yukon. One’s a doll sheep hunt in the Yukon. It’s opening day, which is August 1st in the Yukon. Get there a few days early, get into camp, get on the mountain, be ready to go tip something over that first week of August, longest days of the year, you know, right then and all that.

00:33:38:24 –> 00:34:37:19
We tied up that hunt 10 day dollar sheet hunt their $40,000 hunt with, you know, north Curl Outfitters. So anyway, awesome hunt there. You can do a combo either whether you, you want to do a, or I shouldn’t say combo either or backpack hunt or a horseback style hunt depending on what you want. So old Rams had, a lot of members have hunted with these Mac and those guys over the years. So the other one’s also a Yukon Moose hunt. A little bit later in September we picked prime dates September 17 to 29 with doing Stone Outfitters. Jason, we’ve both been up there. Yeah, it’s awesome trip. You know, awesome trip. You know, huge area, huge concession. Got a combination of horseback areas and or lake based boat hunts on lakes, you know, big, big lakes where you get a little skip boat in a cabin and, and all that. So it kind of got a, some versatility there based on who wins and what they wanna do. So those are two awesome Canadian hunts for, for this fall. August and September.

00:34:38:09 –> 00:35:30:16
Pretty awesome. Yep. Then we’ll move in. We got a, an elk hunt here in Utah. We actually purchased this landowner tag on the southwest desert with dusty trails outfitting, coupled out with his services out there. Southwest Desert is some of our favorite country to hunt, especially mine I guess. And, and Dusty as well. I’ve known Dusty for well over 20 years. He knows it like the back of his hand. I’m not sure anybody knows that country better than he does. We guided goofy the giant 4 34 bowl years ago in 2003 and Dusty was a part of that. And so anyway, that’s already 22 years ago and so kind, kind of crazy how time flies. But anyway, landowner tag you to choose your season seven days in the ru archery course. You know, it’s taken non-residents 23 plus years or muzz loader 25 plus years. Just extremely tough to draw.

00:35:30:26 –> 00:36:23:07
And so know you can choose an early rifle or whatever season works for you. So he’s very consistent. His clients are probably a hundred percent kill, I hate to say it out loud, but probably a hundred percent kill and they’re killing let’s say three 30 to three 70 plus. But most guys are coming away with a three 50 plus bull. So it’s just one of those opportunities that just don’t come around that often. It’s hard to buy a tag of that caliber, let alone draw a tag of that caliber. So anyway, we’re, we’re proud to be given that, that that hunt away value to like 37.5. It’s, it’s just, it’s crazy what hunts are going for, especially world class hunts. So anyway, super proud of that one. And then also New Mexico elk with gram’s guide service. Just an incredible hunt down there. Southern New Mexico, you know, south central borders of Mescalero reservation.

00:36:23:07 –> 00:36:56:18
You’d be able to choose six days on a guided archery hunt or any of the five day rifle or muzzle or hunts that are available. A little bit flexible on that. And so we’ll work with the hunter as far as which tag works for you. The different tags down there in the 34, 36, 37, you have some private land and whatnot. We’ll have a little bit different options available to you. So we’ll work with the hunter food, lodging and guide service, incredible harvest rates. Again, just one of those world class hunts where you just overrun with game down there in south central New Mexico. So

00:36:58:02 –> 00:37:00:09
Who else? Devin, you wanna talk about one, turn

00:37:00:09 –> 00:37:01:16
It over. Which one? I dunno.

00:37:01:19 –> 00:37:02:12
2 31 in Nevada.

00:37:02:16 –> 00:37:03:07
2 31 Nevada.

00:37:03:08 –> 00:37:04:00
One of your faves.

00:37:04:04 –> 00:37:21:25
One of my faves. I love that place. That’s with Greg Kro a mo on Rim Outfitters includes the tag. You can choose your season archery rifle or muzzle 2025. So that’s a, that’s a fun one. I mean if you look at the numbers to draw that, it’s just Oh yeah. Crazy. Yeah the guy drives two tags.

00:37:22:07 –> 00:37:23:10
Two or three and you’re like, I

00:37:23:10 –> 00:37:23:24
Think there two on the rifle.

00:37:24:03 –> 00:37:26:27
Yeah. On the rifle. Anyways, yeah, it’s

00:37:27:03 –> 00:37:34:17
So yeah, you get to choose your season but also, I mean go with him for a while and then stay and hunt as long as you want the

00:37:34:17 –> 00:37:35:03
Next weapon or

00:37:35:09 –> 00:37:36:22
Whatever you want. Whatever you want. Go archery. Stay

00:37:36:22 –> 00:37:39:09
From essentially August 10th through the 31st of October. Yeah,

00:37:39:12 –> 00:37:54:10
Yeah. Every single day. Could not one day break. Yeah. Yeah. That one would probably, that guy needs to really consider his assets and how if you’re gonna split your assets or that you’re gonna come home to an empty house. ’cause you could sure spend some time up

00:37:54:10 –> 00:37:55:04
There. 80 something day season.

00:37:55:11 –> 00:38:00:06
This might be the most expensive free hunt you ever got. Just saying.

00:38:00:20 –> 00:38:03:19
Well it’s a seven day guided hunt too. We should add that in. Yeah. That is

00:38:03:24 –> 00:38:05:04
Fully guided. If you want

00:38:05:04 –> 00:38:07:17
Hunt 85 days, I think that’s how many days are in the season,

00:38:08:15 –> 00:38:34:12
Just saying awesome. Probably oughta get your house in order before you leave if you’re gonna spend too much time out there. Pretty, pretty awesome. One of those hunts that we would take ourselves. Course the photo and that. I think that deer went like two 15 or something. One of those kind of a, a crazy year out there that particular year. And as, as a buck they actually didn’t really even know about and just g glassed him up and had him dead in a matter of hours. Alright. Pretty awesome. Let’s see. Wyatt, you’re

00:38:34:12 –> 00:38:55:11
Up. Yeah, so this next one is going to be a, a five day hunt here in Utah with boxing Bulls outfitters. It’s a pretty cool, unique opportunity ’cause you get to start September one with a rifle. So velvet mule deer with a rifle is pretty uncommon in, in the west. Most, most that’s reserved for archery hunters there. Great private land hunt, great opportunity for, you know, great deer. So

00:38:56:19 –> 00:38:57:07
Just awesome.

00:38:57:13 –> 00:39:04:29
Yeah. And it’s a, it’s a tough spot to get a as. The rest of these are a super tough spot to get. We have to put this one far in advance to, to keep it going. Keep our foot

00:39:04:29 –> 00:39:16:05
In the door. Yeah. And what’s crazy about these kind of hunts like we talked about is just how tough of a is it? Why it to, like, if you want to, you know, grab a tag or a hunt for a 180 plus deer, how hard is that nowadays?

00:39:16:12 –> 00:39:19:05
Dang. Near impossible. I mean there’s just de I mean it stopped.

00:39:19:05 –> 00:39:20:01
Lemme question. Get those.

00:39:20:21 –> 00:39:22:07
All I want is a 180 Deon.

00:39:22:24 –> 00:39:24:06
It is very hard. Get in

00:39:24:06 –> 00:39:24:12
Line.

00:39:24:26 –> 00:39:25:21
Get in line, right?

00:39:26:02 –> 00:39:34:11
Yeah. These guys had, from what they told me, they couple they left over to from last year that made it, that they’re excited about. So they’re gonna have a good year.

00:39:35:01 –> 00:40:28:01
It is, it’s exciting. These are, these are fun hunts. This is just awesome. You know, we could line up hunt, hunt winners from all of these hunts and we should have done that a little bit better. We’re terrible prep Bronson. Oh, you and I like, we, we drag our feet to do the podcast and we get in here and what you see is just whatever we happen to drum up, you know, at that moment. So anyway, but we have hunt winners that have had great hunts. We had a hunt winner on this particular hunt that just rant and raved. Just could not say thanks enough. Greg croak 2 31 guy, didn’t even kill a buck and was just over the moon. It’s static. Had another guy last year killed a buck out there in in 2 31, you know, on one of our giveaways. Different outfitter. But just in, just have great, great experiences, you know. And so anyway, each one of these hunts have just yielded great results. What do we got next? Oh, I don’t know. We only got the envelope. We haven’t talked about that. Devin. Devin, this is only fitting for you. Should we just do a quick old run through?

00:40:28:24 –> 00:40:45:17
That’s the hunt we just talked about with those guys. They, it’s a three day hunt private land with Ty Gore down there. He is. Got a bunch of big, big ranches and I, I mean all of ’em are solid, but yeah, that’s for two people. It’s valued at $9,000 and that’d be August of 2025. It seems

00:40:45:17 –> 00:40:49:11
Like if you knew where there was a 90 entry, you’d do anything. You go, wouldn’t you? Yeah, I mean

00:40:49:20 –> 00:40:52:07
River has it, there’s some leftover carry over there.

00:40:53:15 –> 00:40:53:24
Geez.

00:40:54:02 –> 00:40:55:04
It’s pretty awesome. Well I’m

00:40:55:04 –> 00:40:57:16
Writing down stuff. Yeah. Saying let’s go. Bronson

00:40:57:20 –> 00:40:59:06
Takes the notes and Well, yeah,

00:40:59:06 –> 00:41:01:06
We’re, we’re looking at 20, 27 I guess

00:41:01:21 –> 00:41:16:03
We come in the office this morning. First thing Adam does, Jason, what? What’s our plans? Let’s make some plans. I love it. Every day we’re making new plans. I just, I wanna put these tags in our name right now. It’s, I don’t want, I wanna move from the plan stage. I’m trying to get Wyatt to commit. He’s a little, well

00:41:16:03 –> 00:41:19:03
You guys committed together in Idaho. You guys got plans there? You guys are,

00:41:19:18 –> 00:41:25:05
Oh well we got some general tags. Okay. So that’s a very backup plan. It’s a very, very Well

00:41:25:05 –> 00:41:25:24
You’re, you got

00:41:25:24 –> 00:41:36:01
A plan. Worst case scenario. Well, I mean I forget about that plan. Pretty regular. It’s a plan. I get so excited about the tag grab. Trust me. We know. And then I grabbed the tag and then I’m kind of over it after that.

00:41:37:01 –> 00:41:40:27
It’s the kill is getting the tag. It is. And it’s not even a draw. You bought it by

00:41:40:27 –> 00:41:41:06
July.

00:41:41:11 –> 00:41:43:11
I have by July. I have have so much fun getting the tag.

00:41:43:16 –> 00:41:45:29
Jason has an accordion folder with all of his tags.

00:41:45:29 –> 00:41:46:19
Literally, literally

00:41:46:29 –> 00:41:47:05
Organize them.

00:41:47:12 –> 00:42:06:27
So I have an Arizona OTC. Why? Just because of other people want it. So I think I want it. And now I have something that you can’t get that somebody else might want. It’s kind of exciting right now you got hole and then, and then I do a little Boone and Crockett search and here’s a freaking giant on an OTC archery. And then I hit my buddy and he goes, oh yeah, that was right behind my house. And by the way, there’s more of them.

00:42:07:19 –> 00:42:10:01
Wow. But the quarter filled on the 1st of January. Yeah.

00:42:10:07 –> 00:42:23:12
Yeah. First I’m not doing anything in January. Right. We got, we don’t do much here at the office of January. This is perfect. All right, so then we’ve got the epic gear package. Bronson, you and I work this over a bunch and John gives us the okay to give away the farm

00:42:23:20 –> 00:42:41:01
Pretty much. Well yeah. And we start off by giving away a fierce carbon rage rifle. You know, they’re obviously been great partners for ours here. They’re the sponsor of this podcast. But you get a rifle of your choice of caliber, you get a Hoyt RX eight boy. It might actually be a nine now ’cause remember

00:42:41:12 –> 00:42:41:25
RX nine,

00:42:41:25 –> 00:42:45:19
We’re sure if we’re gonna have one left over and we don’t. We sold them all. So you’re gonna get a nine. Yeah.

00:42:45:28 –> 00:42:46:05
You,

00:42:46:05 –> 00:42:48:00
You one that Anybody can complain about that.

00:42:48:08 –> 00:42:48:18
No. Probably,

00:42:48:25 –> 00:42:48:27
Probably

00:42:49:06 –> 00:42:51:12
Get the newest version. No. So you get what if

00:42:51:12 –> 00:42:54:04
I want a cross bow bro? You gimme a cross

00:42:54:04 –> 00:42:59:05
Bow. Well how about I keep that bow and I give you the equivalent and you go buy what you want with equivalent cash wise

00:42:59:05 –> 00:43:05:25
Equivalent. No, that’s take, I’ll take the cash. Okay. Just kidding. I actually have a hoit bow that’s probably three or four years old. Shoots freaking darts. It’s crazy.

00:43:05:28 –> 00:43:30:25
We all, we all do. Yeah. Better than we can or I can, I’m just speaking for myself. But, but then, you know, top that fierce off, we’ve got a loophole VX six four to 24 by 52 rifle scope and some SRO EO range 10 by 32. Anos size haria 23 to 70 spotting scope, awesome glass there. And then one of our tripod, ultra tripod head tripod combos. So I

00:43:30:25 –> 00:43:33:16
Mean, how about that? The absolute best tripod on planet Earth.

00:43:34:04 –> 00:43:41:27
Yep. So that’s a lot of stuff. You pretty much got. Get a rifle set up, buy all spotter, tripod, bow, you know everything you’re gonna need. So

00:43:41:27 –> 00:43:44:17
Bronson seems like we add this up to like 15 five.

00:43:44:27 –> 00:43:46:25
I was just trying to add it up in my head. It’s gotta be at

00:43:46:25 –> 00:43:48:07
Least that. It was, it was. That’s

00:43:48:07 –> 00:43:51:11
A $4,000 scope with the I piece a 3000 something dollars

00:43:52:05 –> 00:43:53:21
Carbons. Rifle. Rifle.

00:43:54:27 –> 00:43:57:28
Pretty awesome. Bows are cheap, aren’t they? Geez.

00:43:58:05 –> 00:43:59:21
This day and age, this equipment,

00:44:00:01 –> 00:44:15:27
When you go first class, it’s, it’s, you’re gonna pay for it and it’s awesome. Yeah, we’re giving it away here in this membership drive. Get your tickets in there for March by March 3rd. I’d get ’em in right now. Of course. Wyatt, are you, sometimes I don’t understand how you apply for things here at the bottom of the pile or the top of the pile.

00:44:16:10 –> 00:44:17:16
It just depends on the day.

00:44:18:17 –> 00:44:19:09
I kinda

00:44:19:09 –> 00:44:19:27
Switch it up.

00:44:20:08 –> 00:44:21:04
Drives me crazy.

00:44:21:05 –> 00:44:22:01
Keep everybody guessing.

00:44:22:18 –> 00:44:25:04
So we’re gonna put Wyatt on the spot. He didn’t know this.

00:44:25:20 –> 00:44:26:03
Really?

00:44:26:09 –> 00:44:36:17
Yeah. I want to hear a little more about his plans. Wyatt, you have a knack for choosing the best places to go on the right years. You know what I mean?

00:44:37:26 –> 00:44:40:05
I’ve got lucky. I’ll

00:44:40:05 –> 00:44:42:01
Say that. He’s scared of where this is going.

00:44:42:02 –> 00:44:45:21
Yeah. He knows the question. Where are you going this year? Where are

00:44:45:21 –> 00:44:47:17
You going and what are your plans? We’re

00:44:47:17 –> 00:45:02:27
Not gonna go there. I don’t have any plans. Let’s say it, you’ve got, if you, if you could get something that could trump your Idaho general tag and make you maybe put that on the way back burner, what would that be? What would make you Trump, Idaho

00:45:02:27 –> 00:45:08:00
General. He told me this morning, it’s one percenters. I’m like, what do you mean really? One percenters? I explain the one percenter.

00:45:08:11 –> 00:45:15:09
Yeah. That’s not even exciting. Why? Like, you’re, I’m just gonna throw my name in the hat. See what comes up, I guess is kind of, kind of my strategy for this year. I mean,

00:45:15:13 –> 00:45:19:18
And if you beat the odds of 1%, then, then that Trump sees OTCs.

00:45:19:18 –> 00:45:20:16
That’s, that’s what I’m going with.

00:45:20:20 –> 00:45:23:03
But two plus percent. No, we’re doing the OTCs.

00:45:24:11 –> 00:45:34:07
Staying with the OTCs. Geez. That’s a hard, that’s hard to get excited about. Check and draw results doing it that way. But kinda like Jason, the kill, I love the

00:45:34:07 –> 00:45:36:01
Drawn piece. I don’t know why I like the kill. You do too.

00:45:36:10 –> 00:45:54:21
I do too. I, I’m getting a little less, a little bit less. I don’t know satisfied by that. But I, but I do get sucked into that. Especially in states that don’t have points or stuff like that. New Mexico or, no, I mean I got a deer tag there. You did you I mean when didn’t even go last year

00:45:54:29 –> 00:45:55:09
I went.

00:45:55:19 –> 00:45:57:25
No I didn’t. Oh. But I, but I had one too. You did.

00:45:58:12 –> 00:46:02:12
You did. I forgot you had the best ous steer tag on planet Earth.

00:46:03:16 –> 00:46:06:12
No, I did not. I would’ve been there. Trust me.

00:46:07:21 –> 00:46:09:11
It was one of those, you might get lucky.

00:46:10:07 –> 00:46:15:11
It al it also overlapped Colorado and I ultimately decided I’m gonna go, I’m gonna go hunt mul there.

00:46:15:11 –> 00:46:19:19
So, but it gave you something to fall back on. It is in the event the world came crashing down and there was no,

00:46:19:29 –> 00:46:23:15
It’s a quasi Yeah. Over the counter tag, even though it’s not.

00:46:23:18 –> 00:46:38:00
But what I like about New Mexico and we’re covering New Mexico in this particular magazine, but what I like is we’ve killed some, some great animals, but in weird skews, weird units. Right. And then we’ve also ate tags. Right. Devin and some weird skews. Haven’t we done that? It can happen. Yeah.

00:46:39:09 –> 00:46:40:03
If you end up going

00:46:40:24 –> 00:46:56:22
At all. So we’ve had some good hunts. We went last year. Devin and I went down there, hunted deer a little bit, got our bus kicked. It was semi off year in the particular area we were at. And maybe just off in general. And we’re also always trying to make something great, but it’s still kind of, it’s the kind of state you feel like it could happen

00:46:56:22 –> 00:46:58:05
Almost anywhere. Like Yeah.

00:46:58:09 –> 00:46:58:18
Yeah.

00:46:59:16 –> 00:47:08:15
I don’t know. And you’re never giving up points and waiting periods and any of that. Just yeah, go give her heck and yeah, do didn’t like it, do something different next year. But

00:47:08:15 –> 00:47:22:19
We learned a lot and every time I go down, I don’t know you Bronson, you like to tease me about the deer tags I’ve had in Mexico, but Mexico’s one of those places sucks you in and pretty soon you find yourself in unit nine or 14 or some weird place that isn’t known for any dairy.

00:47:22:28 –> 00:47:30:06
Yeah. They kill, they kill some weird big bucks and weird places. All scattered all across New Mexico. Yep. That’s for sure. So,

00:47:30:06 –> 00:47:42:07
And then there’s a giant kil in some of these unit. Yeah. A, a unit that you’re like, oh yeah, I know I’ve, I’ve seen giants there before but I never decided to, I never wanted to go there because I’ve seen a big buck there. Makes no sense at all, I guess is my point.

00:47:42:10 –> 00:47:43:04
Yep. You know,

00:47:43:14 –> 00:47:49:22
Anyway, so that’s why I like to talk to Wyatt ’cause he has good plans and he makes the right plans on the right years.

00:47:49:22 –> 00:47:51:21
Yeah. If WT tells you to go somewhere, you should listen.

00:47:52:02 –> 00:47:52:23
You should listen

00:47:52:28 –> 00:47:53:18
Every time.

00:47:54:06 –> 00:47:55:11
If he gives you a green light

00:47:55:26 –> 00:48:03:23
Run, I want to just ask him what my green light is for the air. Just ask him. In fact, I might just let you apply me interstate or two. Oh

00:48:03:23 –> 00:48:04:21
Promise. Do that.

00:48:04:21 –> 00:48:05:03
Hand over the

00:48:05:06 –> 00:48:07:07
Usernames and passwords. Yeah. Get those. Gotta

00:48:07:07 –> 00:48:07:17
Go to Oregon

00:48:07:22 –> 00:48:09:00
Things. Oregon is not

00:48:09:07 –> 00:48:13:03
In a drought. We’ll email you some forms. How about you write it on a sticky note and I’ll take it under advisement.

00:48:15:21 –> 00:48:16:06
Exactly.

00:48:16:15 –> 00:48:20:00
Because hey, I don’t know what carte blanche on my credit card.

00:48:20:18 –> 00:49:01:17
So there’s so many options in New Mexico that we can’t even cover ’em all in print in the printed magazine. But on our website you can go find any and every single hunt they offer as far as the draw hunts. And so when you go on there, you can go look and just look at your odds, whether it be the, the resident odds, the guided odds, which would include some residents I guess if they want to do it that way. It’s not the smartest way to do it for a resident. But anyway, the guided odds. And then the non-resident, just the regular, let’s call it the DIY non-resident, but he can choose to go guided after he gets that tag. But you can go, you know, compare the odds and, and make a decision based off of that. And then you’ve gotta just really be careful of the allocation, the total tag allocation.

00:49:02:02 –> 00:49:33:21
There may only be a non-resident tag that is issued in the guide drawn and there’s no tag available in the regular non guided, non-resident drawn. So, so just be aware of that. We cover that in the Epic Outdoors publication and it’s just kind of a little tip and check that most guys know that have applied in the past, but, but it’s something to take into consideration. Anything and everything’s good. New Mexico’s fun. I like going to New Mexico, although Bronson, you traveled down there to South central New Mexico, it’s not an, it’s no joke of a jump.

00:49:33:27 –> 00:49:41:06
Oh yeah. 13 hour day. We were like an hour from Texas border down there. Yeah, yeah. Roughly. Yeah. So it’s, you know, it’s a poke,

00:49:41:16 –> 00:49:43:04
But it’s awesome. It’s kind of

00:49:43:04 –> 00:49:48:24
Got some wild, there’s lots to do down there, lot to do. And I gotta say the roads going through Arizona are the worst ever.

00:49:49:00 –> 00:49:49:27
Well, especially if you go

00:49:50:02 –> 00:49:56:03
Across the they what is up with I 40? If you guys from Flagstaff to Albuquerque. I mean, gee,

00:49:56:07 –> 00:49:59:00
But Yeah, but have you notice the Semit traffic? It’s

00:49:59:00 –> 00:50:01:16
A major, major vein. I 15 is

00:50:01:21 –> 00:50:03:07
Yeah, it it is. But

00:50:03:16 –> 00:50:07:00
You talk about the roads, you feel like you’re in the front of a sailboat on the ocean. Yeah.

00:50:07:00 –> 00:50:11:07
But yeah. Yeah. Well just I, the interstate I 40, but it’s bumper to bumper wavy,

00:50:12:08 –> 00:50:18:19
But it’s bumper to bumper. I think there’s just so much, so much traffic. I know that it just wears a road out.

00:50:18:21 –> 00:50:26:28
I 15 does get worn out like that. And it’s a pretty busy freeway compact even over, over by St. John’s where there’s not a lot of traffic. There were some bad, bad roads. Like

00:50:27:15 –> 00:50:31:04
The, the speakers fell out of the ceilings of my camp trailer. It was so bumpy.

00:50:31:11 –> 00:50:38:13
Okay, I just wanna ask you a question, Bronson me. Does it surprise you that John had speakers fall out of the ceiling of his camp trailer?

00:50:41:09 –> 00:50:44:11
I will say camp trailers are not built incredibly strong.

00:50:44:11 –> 00:50:45:10
They’re not built like an

00:50:45:11 –> 00:50:51:25
Airstream. You get ’em on a, you get ’em on a washboard road, you’re gonna find lots of screws in the floor of your trailer when you get there.

00:50:52:07 –> 00:50:59:25
I just love the stories about John and camp trailers. John, did you not, did you or did you not leave a camp trailer over the entire winter in the state of Colorado? When

00:51:00:04 –> 00:51:01:16
I did want, I

00:51:01:16 –> 00:51:03:01
Mean, I just love these stories.

00:51:03:12 –> 00:51:10:25
I paid, I I paid for to keep it at a, at a campground, but yeah. Yeah. I left it, my transmission went out.

00:51:10:27 –> 00:51:16:24
I couldn’t home. Things happen. Oh, that was on a truck. I sold you. Okay, we’re gonna end this podcast here.

00:51:17:06 –> 00:51:23:10
No, we, that’s gotta end on a high note. Like you gotta least talk about the expo and lets all the cool stuff we’re gonna bring there next

00:51:23:10 –> 00:51:30:04
Week. Let’s talk about that. And let’s also give something away. Devin, we talked about it earlier today and that’s why we’re good away. We’re really glad you’re here

00:51:30:09 –> 00:51:33:09
From listening to this podcast. Or are we gonna, in conjunction, is

00:51:33:09 –> 00:51:37:13
This because we, I think we made a very large CVA muzz order today.

00:51:37:26 –> 00:51:56:28
Yes. And yes. And I think we should give away Bronson with your blessing, John, Devin, Wyatt, if you guys all think, let’s give away one of our muzzle orders and, and they maybe, maybe juice box, maybe what they do is they tag epic muzzle in a, in a post. Right. Epic muzzle and just hashtag

00:51:57:06 –> 00:51:57:15
Yeah.

00:51:57:27 –> 00:51:58:15
Tag hashtag

00:51:58:20 –> 00:52:02:06
Gotta hashtag it. You also gotta tag us in a post. Is it a feed post or a story?

00:52:02:19 –> 00:52:04:12
Well, I mean this is why you’re here. All

00:52:04:12 –> 00:52:08:11
Right. Feed post, gotta tag epic outdoors and hashtag epic muzzle.

00:52:08:25 –> 00:52:10:12
Okay. Okay. And lemme just

00:52:10:12 –> 00:52:16:16
Go by when and how, I mean, yeah, you guys set the rules, but what are we gonna give away? Devin, you start describing, what do you think people

00:52:16:16 –> 00:52:22:04
Gonna do about Probably be like an Optima. We have thumb hole Optimas one of those. Yeah, we’ll figure it out. Optima. Yeah, we’ll talk about it. We’ll

00:52:22:04 –> 00:52:24:28
See where you are. How about that? We’ll see where the winner’s from. I like it. We’ll offer an Optima.

00:52:24:28 –> 00:52:28:04
We’ve ordered new stuff. We got northwest conversion kits.

00:52:28:16 –> 00:52:37:19
So yeah. Epic muzzle is not taken. That’s fresh. Okay, are we good? It’s fresh. I mean they got epic muzzle break and they’re taken our name

00:52:38:10 –> 00:52:41:03
Muzzle. We already said it’s a pho. Let’s just do a hunting photo.

00:52:41:15 –> 00:52:58:05
Okay. Hunting photo. Hunting photo. Yeah. All right. Alright. Epic muzzle. Devin, we’re giving it away. Okay. And then also let’s talk about that northwest conversion kit. We got a couple of new SKUs that make it to where it’s a number 11 or a musket cap. It has to be exposed to the elements, right? Yep. And so there’s a little conversion

00:52:58:05 –> 00:53:03:29
And you can put that on any, I mean if, unless it’s I think within the last 10 years, any CBA Acura,

00:53:04:12 –> 00:53:05:03
LRX rx,

00:53:05:04 –> 00:53:08:00
I think Optima. Yeah. Optima. It just spins right in, just like on

00:53:08:00 –> 00:53:12:10
Your, it spins in. And then also there’s a little replacement firing pin. Easy to do. Yeah. Right. It

00:53:12:10 –> 00:53:23:11
Comes in a little kit. We have a bunch of those. If you’re looking to hunt up there, we just ordered a bunch of muzzle breaks. So if you already currently have an Optima or a, a new Acura, you can swap out that.

00:53:23:19 –> 00:53:23:28
Yeah,

00:53:24:11 –> 00:53:27:09
That, that cap with a new break. Yeah. Side port break.

00:53:27:13 –> 00:53:41:04
What I like about these is you can buy the best Acura, like an Acura, LRX or MRX or something we’re gonna personally use. And you’re out several hundred dollars, but nowhere near a thousand. You know what I mean? Very affordable versus

00:53:41:24 –> 00:53:44:25
Rifles, which they’re expensive. But yeah, you can get into muzzle at a hundred.

00:53:45:25 –> 00:53:58:03
Even these days, even like we, we ordered a bunch of peep sites, front globe sites, the Hunter Precision type. So you can choose your vertical. You’re still gonna be under probably 900 bucks crazy with an L-R-X-M-R-X and the sites.

00:53:58:20 –> 00:54:24:22
And the sites and break a Northwestern kit or whatever. So we’re gonna have that at the expo as well as a one power Lupo mounted on there. You can kinda look at that. Of course, there’s plenty of you out there. Don’t need to see that you’ve got one, whatever. That’s great. You got a plan. But if you, if you need something, come by and visit us. We’re gonna have it on a epic gun clamp on the tripod. You can check it out. Also, we’re gonna have fierce firearm on a tripod, right? I believe. Why

00:54:24:22 –> 00:54:24:24
Not

00:54:25:08 –> 00:54:27:28
To, if you’re bringing your personal gun, then yes, we will have one there.

00:54:28:24 –> 00:54:29:22
Bronson, I’m thinking we,

00:54:29:25 –> 00:54:32:05
I thought he’d nominated himself a while back. Well,

00:54:32:05 –> 00:54:35:28
Maybe it was John. We’ll make sure we, John. I think it was John. John. Let’s take John.

00:54:35:29 –> 00:54:36:28
John. It was John. Yeah.

00:54:37:04 –> 00:54:38:06
He loves to volunteer.

00:54:38:06 –> 00:54:40:05
We’ve got plenty of ’em anyways, but yeah, we’re,

00:54:40:20 –> 00:54:46:04
We got plenty of those. We can show the, the tripods. We’ve got a couple of new surprises on the tripod

00:54:46:04 –> 00:54:46:10
Thing.

00:54:46:15 –> 00:54:49:18
One might be a little bigger and beefier and better than ever. Yeah.

00:54:49:24 –> 00:54:51:09
The clamp possibly talking

00:54:51:09 –> 00:55:13:12
About like these antelope punts or like the, or hunt. You gotta have a standup easy tripod that you don’t wanna have to, you know, pull up too much stuff. You pull outta the bed of your truck and you’re Yes. Jumping off the road 50 something feet to get legal and try to get set up on a thundering herd of orx or antelope or whatever. Your coyote, coyote, you know, something like that. Right. I like it. We got options at the expo. We come look at, we’re gonna have

00:55:13:12 –> 00:55:19:19
Options. Yep. All of it’s gonna be at the expo course. We’re gonna have optics like crazy. Yeah. Let’s talk about a few with expo deals.

00:55:20:07 –> 00:55:32:15
Yeah. We also got like, some of their new, they’re not new, but the hard to find, the hard to keep in stock. Sig kilo eight K range finders. Yeah. I don’t know how many people have those right now, but we do. And we,

00:55:32:24 –> 00:55:45:11
Well, and I and what’s funny about those, they’re so hard to get. I told you I wanna put one in every orifice of my truck. Like I wanna buy one for the, the left, the passenger door, the right door. My, it’s center console. It’s

00:55:45:11 –> 00:55:49:03
Called scarcity. It’s a scarcity. It’s like a psychological, it’s

00:55:49:03 –> 00:55:52:12
Psychological tag’s hard to get. I want the tag, but I may not even use it.

00:55:52:14 –> 00:55:55:11
Jason’s got so many, he pulls up one, puts one on each eye and

00:55:55:11 –> 00:56:05:11
Ranges. No, I don’t, but I might. It’s, I, I like the, the standalone range finer personally. And I do. You do too. Yep. Of course. Wyatt, you use an EL range, which is smart too.

00:56:05:18 –> 00:56:05:29
I have those.

00:56:06:04 –> 00:56:09:11
Devin, you use an EL range. Yep. 10 by 32. Yep. Swirl.

00:56:09:11 –> 00:56:10:13
We’ve got that. It’s awesome, right?

00:56:10:13 –> 00:56:11:19
You’ve used it a ton.

00:56:12:13 –> 00:56:14:04
Accurate. I like them in the binocular. Yeah.

00:56:14:13 –> 00:56:20:19
Got the 12. 12 by 40 twos. We’ve got 10 by 40 twos. We 12 by 40 twos. Yeah. 10 by 30 twos. Stop by and see those

00:56:21:09 –> 00:56:24:05
14 by 50 twos. I mean, good grief. What don’t we have? Spotting

00:56:24:05 –> 00:56:24:13
Scopes,

00:56:24:26 –> 00:56:27:27
Rifles stuff like crazy S zy stuff like

00:56:28:13 –> 00:56:31:19
Scopes. The new stuff. You’ve been talking, hearing us talk about the new V eights.

00:56:31:27 –> 00:56:33:16
Yeah. If you haven’t seen one of those, you should

00:56:33:16 –> 00:56:34:16
Look at one. Absolutely.

00:56:34:24 –> 00:56:36:23
V eight rifle scopes are no joke. Bronson,

00:56:37:16 –> 00:56:39:16
You killing, you’re the first

00:56:40:02 –> 00:56:41:15
Kills. Yeah, I

00:56:41:15 –> 00:56:56:24
Love it. I love the redle. Yeah, I love it. I’ve loved the, some of the les like from the V six line, but it didn’t have the, the illumination dot if you wanted that, now you’ve got that option in the V eight line with the kind of the redle combination. I like in the old V six

00:56:57:06 –> 00:57:23:13
And we’ve got the new S swirl, the Z five i, we’ve got all that. It’s gonna be in the booth too. So kind of fun. What I, I just love this. The, the expo. There’s a lot of BS that goes on and a but a lot of hunt talk, a lot of gear. Seeing all the animals that were killed in 2024. The, you know, the after hours type fun stuff. The, the, the banquet. Banquet. That’s what

00:57:23:13 –> 00:57:26:03
I was looking for is Ray Wiley Hubbard in town this time. Devin, didn’t you go

00:57:26:03 –> 00:57:27:17
To him one? No, I chose somebody else this time.

00:57:27:20 –> 00:57:33:04
Didn’t you go to him with your wife? A few, couple, two, three years ago. Yeah, in some little dive bar or somewhere downtown,

00:57:33:07 –> 00:57:33:24
You could call it that.

00:57:34:25 –> 00:57:38:17
So I think it was via, yeah, you had to have a personal invite from Ray Wiley. It’s

00:57:38:17 –> 00:57:39:27
Across the street from the Salt Palace. Yeah,

00:57:39:27 –> 00:57:48:29
It was close. But yeah, he was in town one year. I remember Devon’s a Ray Wiley fan. So, Hey Logan, did we wrap up the, the rules and the term

00:57:49:09 –> 00:57:49:28
Giving away

00:57:50:00 –> 00:57:52:27
Cut off for the muzzle loader muzzle. Say it one more time. So giving away

00:57:52:29 –> 00:58:05:10
A CVA Optima. We’ll get with you on the exact configuration of that muzzle loader. You gotta post something on your Instagram feed using hashtag epic muzzle. Tag us at epic hunts on Instagram also. And what’s

00:58:05:10 –> 00:58:05:12
The

00:58:05:12 –> 00:58:07:00
Date? Yeah, did you wanna do it through the expo

00:58:07:00 –> 00:58:08:28
Or? Well, when’s this gonna go live? Oh,

00:58:08:28 –> 00:58:09:28
Hopefully today. Tonight or

00:58:10:01 –> 00:58:15:23
Tomorrow. There you go. So let’s do it. Let’s give it away, bro. Bronson, we should do a deadline of next Monday. We’re in the office.

00:58:15:29 –> 00:58:19:06
Yeah, I was gonna say, let’s, let’s give, let’s pick the winner next Monday, but

00:58:19:22 –> 00:58:21:25
The Monday following expo after the expo.

00:58:21:27 –> 00:58:23:06
Okay, so 17th. What

00:58:23:06 –> 00:58:24:21
Is that? 17th Post

00:58:24:21 –> 00:58:26:01
It by February 17th. Do

00:58:26:01 –> 00:58:26:13
It by then.

00:58:27:06 –> 00:58:28:05
All right. So

00:58:28:24 –> 00:58:30:21
You can even be a felon witness.

00:58:31:08 –> 00:58:34:01
Hey, you know there’s also some rules.

00:58:34:06 –> 00:58:34:12
Wow.

00:58:34:24 –> 00:58:35:17
Geez guy

00:58:37:02 –> 00:58:42:18
That, that applied to point, 0.0001% of our listeners. But is the president

00:58:42:18 –> 00:58:45:27
Of the United States a felon? I don’t, that’s not even a bad word. Well, maybe

00:58:45:27 –> 00:58:47:16
Crossed my mind, anybody can win this.

00:58:47:22 –> 00:58:51:23
We can send him a muzz loader for doing our voiceover work and our on holding message. Pretty

00:58:51:23 –> 00:58:57:03
Sure he’s gonna shoot whatever he wants to and well deserved. We do owe him. All

00:58:57:03 –> 00:59:00:13
Right. We still owe him for the hold messages, so maybe we’ll just send him one.

00:59:00:25 –> 00:59:07:29
Yeah, we do owe him a little payment for that on hold. Hold messages here at Epic Or Epic, that’s for sure. Yeah.

00:59:08:01 –> 00:59:58:01
Well I just, I think we already did kinda go over fierce. We also talked about Hoyt there being great sponsors of ours. We’re gonna have a meeting with them at the expo as well, and obviously talked about some of their giveaway items that we’re gonna have in our membership drive. But also wanted to give a shout out to stealth cam. It’s a little early, but hey, anymore here come April, may. Don’t be starting to think about if you need a bunch of trail cameras, you’re gonna want to get ’em lined up before then if you’re gonna want to get the right models that you like and use. So we use stealth cam pretty much exclusively here, whether it be cellular cameras or SD card cameras. So keep us in mind if you’re shopping for those, you can check obviously the MO models out [email protected]. But keep us in mind if you want to do an order or if you’re swinging through. We do have lock boxes. We got cameras and start getting, be getting more too here and the coming months. So shout out to them.

00:59:58:21 –> 01:00:15:18
I like it. Okay, I remember what I was going talk about. I remember too what, what we order today for rifles. So, so we have epic firearms, epic arms here, epic Outdoors. We sell fairs, CVAA number of, of different firearms and whatnot. So what do we add to our little repertoire

01:00:16:14 –> 01:00:16:24
Today?

01:00:17:06 –> 01:00:36:29
A 360 buck hammer. Huh? How about that? Yeah, that’s not what I was thinking, but what were you guys talking about? Straight, pretty exciting straight wall cartridge for the weird skews that are going on here in Utah. So if you need a straight wall cartridge and you’re gonna end up with Bronson, hey, these are, these are in, these are fun things. These are just like the Northwestern kit needs and

01:00:37:19 –> 01:00:42:25
Whatever. Is Jenna gonna listen to this broadcaster? We’re being pretty clean. I don’t think she needs to, so I’m just gonna, let’s

01:00:42:25 –> 01:00:42:29
Just

01:00:42:29 –> 01:00:45:25
Slip it. Chase her. No, you’re just, you’re covering your butt.

01:00:46:06 –> 01:00:47:27
Well, I mean I ordered one for me I

01:00:47:27 –> 01:00:48:04
Thought was

01:00:48:04 –> 01:00:48:29
For you It is,

01:00:49:22 –> 01:00:51:23
Is but, but, but now it’s for anybody that might wanna

01:00:51:23 –> 01:01:17:10
Buy that because I’m so excited about it. I think there’s other people gonna be excited about it and if you’re excited about it, we’ll get you one. I was just waiting for him on the phone to say, oh yeah, you need a 360 bucks match. I was gonna say it and for some reason, fuck, I missed it. And I was like, oh, this buddy was the, I’m talking to his buddy. I’m, I should have been talking to his buddy anyway, but, but I’m, I want to know more about these straight wall cartridges because I was famous for it. And Bronson, you know that you went

01:01:17:10 –> 01:01:52:16
Out there. Well they do. And, and you have, you have multiple follow up shops. I took Kamus loader when I went there. Of course you can use a scoped, magnified scope and all that and that’s a pretty dang effective gun. But it’s a single shot out there using a straight wall. You got a magazine with whatever, three or four, you know, underneath it. So you need a follow up shot, you’re gonna want something like that. But we got some of these weird hams hunts throughout Utah or even some of these, I guess. Yeah, hams or restricted weapons, general season hunts and three or four units in the state. One that Logan might be familiar with. One that others in this room, Jason might be familiar.

01:01:52:16 –> 01:01:53:25
I’m Jo down notes of stuff I gotta buy.

01:01:53:27 –> 01:01:57:25
Exactly. You gotta list, you know, a mile long. But anyway, I mean

01:01:57:25 –> 01:02:07:05
We we’re, the restricted weapons is no joke. People are having to figure out a, a rifle that have open sites. Go find a rifle with open sight. So yeah, we

01:02:07:12 –> 01:02:20:18
Went shop show and we went, that was one thing we did. And it’s, it’s a lot tougher than you think to go out there. It’s surprising firearm manufacturers and try to find something that’s already drilled and tap doesn’t even just have ’em on there. All you need is one just tapped for ’em. That’s hard. Yeah.

01:02:21:00 –> 01:02:32:12
So anybody that needs one, you probably ought to call us or you or you’re welcome to. Hey, I love this stuff. I know, I love it. I love it. I think we ought to blow this epic gear store through the freaking roof. I love this stuff. But anyway.

01:02:32:12 –> 01:02:38:09
Well we do have t and d’s Gunsmithing here or, or JD sorry. Sorry, Jason and Devin. Sorry. Okay.

01:02:38:13 –> 01:02:38:22
Okay.

01:02:39:00 –> 01:02:40:01
J and d guns, they’re

01:02:40:01 –> 01:02:42:28
Not yet incorporated, so I don’t dare say it yet. Right, right. Devin, you have to

01:02:42:28 –> 01:02:43:12
Have a light. Hey.

01:02:43:16 –> 01:02:51:13
Hey Wyatt. Hey, that, that call I was on, but when, when this started, we, we, we got some stuff to do. We gotta a scope of fierce devvin

01:02:51:13 –> 01:02:52:07
And I Twisted

01:02:52:07 –> 01:02:52:23
Road. Do

01:02:52:23 –> 01:02:53:10
You have, do

01:02:53:12 –> 01:02:54:06
You have, have to guys have to

01:02:54:14 –> 01:02:58:23
Sell packages? So if you buy a rifle scope package, Devon and I will mount

01:02:59:06 –> 01:02:59:23
With the re and

01:02:59:23 –> 01:03:06:00
The base Devon and I’ll mount it for free. Yeah. And, and it’s no joke dude. We we’re pretty, I’m just gonna say we’re pretty dang good at it.

01:03:06:12 –> 01:03:07:09
J and d smithing

01:03:07:12 –> 01:03:09:09
This morning. We’re swapping triggers and things like

01:03:09:12 –> 01:03:10:07
It’s perfect devvin.

01:03:10:08 –> 01:03:21:05
And, and I’m grateful for that. I, I did, I did buy a couple rugers for coyotes for some projects. I’m working on. Wyatt, you got a gun. But some of these rugers come with that. I don’t even what it’s called. Just that, what do you call that?

01:03:21:27 –> 01:03:25:03
It’s called, it’s kind of an accu trigger, but that’s on a savage that

01:03:25:03 –> 01:03:29:17
Is counterintuitive. Same. A pre trigger trigger to make you more accurate. That doesn’t make sense. And

01:03:29:17 –> 01:03:31:03
You can’t get ’em under four pounds. Yeah.

01:03:31:16 –> 01:03:32:25
So anyway, Devin did

01:03:32:25 –> 01:03:33:25
Some projects. Yeah,

01:03:33:25 –> 01:03:39:25
We did. Devin did it to his last week or 10 days ago. And I quickly ordered a couple from me once we had the right

01:03:40:03 –> 01:03:47:23
And now guess what we even convinced Wyatt, you’re so quiet right now, but you gotta talk about this. Yeah. We convinced Wyatt to get a whole new set up. Yeah.

01:03:48:07 –> 01:03:52:24
Got a 22, 2 50, didn’t you? Yeah, I got a 2250. Yeah, we got, we got projects. Pete

01:03:52:27 –> 01:03:54:00
Sitting in my office

01:03:54:03 –> 01:04:00:04
Right now, again, I paved the way. I love it when people spend money after I do. ’cause it validates my own expenditures. I know that’s

01:04:00:04 –> 01:04:00:06
Right.

01:04:00:21 –> 01:04:37:06
I know. You know what I mean? You don’t wanna do everything alone. No, I, if I’m buying a CVA dude, it’s a 10 round mag or whatever it is. It’s no joke. You get a pair of coyotes, which they’re now pair pairing up pretty soon. They’re gonna be breeding pretty soon. They’re gonna be in the den. These are things that Wyatt and I are now prepared for. Right. Ready. Multiple shots get there. So anyway, if you’re, if you’re gonna buy a rifle, you’re gonna buy a scope and the stuff to go with it. We’ll, we’ll mount it and ship it to you. And you’re not gonna find a better price than here at Epic. You can’t buy it as, you can’t buy one from the factory as cheap as we sell it here at Epic Outdoors. We have to make deals.

01:04:37:13 –> 01:04:57:25
The other thing we were talking about, this is way off subject, but this morning we were talking about a lot of people call for hunts, guided hunts, things like that. They don’t know where to start. Yeah. I would tell everyone out there to go to our website, click on the guided hunts, look at the species you’re talking about. We got a whole long list of them that will give you a big, big good jumpstart on where to start and kind of the questions to ask.

01:04:58:03 –> 01:05:03:19
So right next to the login, you’ll go to guided Hunts and then just start click clicking away.

01:05:03:24 –> 01:05:06:13
Different species different. Yeah. And then just click the button and

01:05:06:13 –> 01:05:25:27
We’ll, and this is by no means everything we have, but Devin is pretty on top of keeping this up to date. If you don’t see something you want, if you want, if you see something you like, you can click email us for more info. It hits Devin. Devin gives you all the info about it. If you don’t see something you like, then call us. Like, we want to help you. That’s what we’re

01:05:25:27 –> 01:05:29:18
Here for questions. But yeah, that’s a good place to start. That’s another thing we were talking about this morning, right?

01:05:30:02 –> 01:05:43:11
Right now we have the Nevada guide draw coming up and New Mexico has a guided draw too. A lot better odds. Substantially better odds. So that’s right. If you’re thinking about an outfitter there and gonna go guided, it makes sense to apply and, and call us for outfit recommendations. We work with a lot of great outfitters.

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Yeah. We work with a lot of great outfitters like Wyatt saying on both like, just like he’s indicating the, the draw, anything and everything to do with drawing tags. We work with with outfitters in, in, I would say virtually every unit in every state here in the west. But then also tag or hunts with guaranteed tags. So Ronson,

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Do you need a, just had a question. Why do you, does Doppel regulate Gunsmithing? Like with a licensure? Do these guys need to do anything like that? We we’re gonna have, I just don’t want you guys to getting,

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We do it for free. It’s a, it’s a public service.

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There’s like a lawsuit

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Rating to happen right there.

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No it’s not. No it’s not. We got away with the Trump voice.

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We’re do you guys, you guys, you guys we’re

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Mounting a scope and

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By the way, Trump’s in office and we’re gun toting Americas. I feel safe. Is it

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Just jds smithing? What is you guys’ name? J

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Well

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Maybe, I don’t know. What is your, I like it. What is your name?

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We haven’t discussed that yet.

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It’s epic arms. Well, okay, it’s epic arms. Well shop all liability lands

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On. No, that’s kind of where I want your initials tied to the name. The liability stops there.

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I can guarantee your scope will be level.

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It’ll be level. And that gun will shoot. I promise you

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That. What’d you say earlier? This today? Plumb something like that? Or what’d you say?

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Oh yeah. Well, I mean all that happens when we’re out scope. Oh,

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Don’t get away. Our secrets. Just,

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You said a term, you said a term this morning Tor little to

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Torked to plumb. Plumb.

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You asked me what the action screws are torque to and I said tight.

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Yeah, it’s true. True’s a little bit of dnce. And he just said, I

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Can go back to that. I mean, so Jim Borden, he is no joke. The guy, he

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Wants it to the nearest 10th of an inch pound.

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No, it’s not even that. He, I asked him one day, I said, you know, ’cause because I’m an idiot kid. This is 20 years ago. And I’m like, Jim, and he, he does have incredible rifles. But anyway, and I got a couple of them, 3, 3, 300 Roman, a 3 38 Roman. Anyway, I was like, Jim, like what do you torque these down to? Like if I take the stock off, like what would I torque it down to? He goes, you don’t torque my rifles, you stop. When it stops, it just square. They’re perfect. You know? I’m like, I don’t know what he means by that. You know? And what he means is everything about it is true. Perfect. And it clicks into place when it’s tight. You know it, and it just, it kinda like a snap. It just snaps. But when you

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But when that happened, when that got to that point, you think with your tort

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Ranch it would be 40

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Foot 20, 21 and a half or whatever, whatever did that. Yeah. There is a number to that.

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There could a number where you would be safe that this isn’t gonna back out. That’s what I wanna know, because I don’t know what that feels like. Somewhere

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Between 30 inch pounds and 52

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Inch pounds. That’s right. But I, I don’t know. I don’t know what that number feels like. He does. ’cause he’s felt thousands. That’s right. Right. Like it’s his area of expertise. I

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Can tell you this, my action screws were way more loose than yours Were for the factory. Yeah.

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Really? Yeah.

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Okay. But it doesn’t matter.

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They’re tight at

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All. I mean, it’s, I mean it’s a Kyle

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Whatever yours Were looser. Yeah. Okay. Well they’re all the same now. Yeah, they’re tight. We did it tight.

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Did you, what did you type them to? Just tight called 30, 30, 40.

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It’s called Snug

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Extra tight s. Anyway, all that’s, that’s it. I, I don’t have anything else Broun, so unless you

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How minutes for two? Were we at a 52 and a half yet?

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We’re at an hour 12.

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My, my gosh. We’re 20 minutes sober. Geez. All right. We’re sorry everybody.

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Do we have a, do we have a tip or a trick to leave

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With? No. Where are we gonna go? An hour 22. Wyatt,

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You gotta a tip or a trick.

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You got nothing.

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You gotta have something Wyatt. Not me.

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Nope. Keeping it myself. Well, everybody that’s listen to this come up to white the expo and ask him to say, I need a tip or a trick. Since he’s tightlipped today. You

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Kinda like, kinda like Halloween trick

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Or treat tip or trick. Tip or trick.

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All everybody have a great weekend. Weekend. Looking

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Forward to seeing y’all travel safe.

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Yeah, travel safe, right? We got,

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We got talk to Mike.

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We got, Hey, we gotta end this a little bit better than that. We forget. Okay. Like something about Super Bowl weekend and then we’re gonna see you at the expo. Okay. And you’re gonna get your name into all these hats. He expo.com Did,

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We didn’t need to do that today,

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Did we? I think that pretty much summed

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It up right there.

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Are we good? Yeah. All

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That’s what I’ll

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Use. Alright. Have

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A great weekend. Weekend. Like it.

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Like it.

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