In this episode we give some updates on our summer scouting and running trail cameras. We also talk about some of the gear we’ve purchased and would recommend purchasing for the upcoming season. From pants to optics, now is the time to get stocked up on everything you need for the fall!

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You are listening to the Epic Outdoors Podcast, brought to you by Fierce Firearms, epic Outdoors choice for custom hunting rifles.

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Hey everybody. Jason Carter. Adam Bronson. John Peterson. Logan Logan at the keyboard.

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Yes,

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Sir. Always here.

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Always here.

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Always working.

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Always bugging you guys about a podcast. That’s good.

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Making us sound buttery, smooth.

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That’s right.

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Anyway, here we are. Another podcast coming at you from Southern Utah. Sponsored this podcast is all of our podcasts are sponsored by Fierce Rifles. Sure. Appreciate them and their sport. We shoot ’em nonstop. I’ve even got fierce rifles. I need to

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Sculpt.

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I just barely scoped ’em out. Yeah, they’re ready to shoot now. Ready

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To dope up though. Yeah.

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But anyway, pretty awesome. Haven’t had a gun of theirs that, that didn’t shoot. It’s pretty incredible. All, all of us here at the office have got ’em. I guess. I don’t know. Logan, you bought Oh yeah, you’re loaded. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess you’re not married. Got

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A carbon rage.

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You can, you can make choices.

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I killed that buck last year with my carbon rage. Oh yeah. I forgot

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About that. You get a seven mag. What’d you get? Seven? Yeah.

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PRC. Yeah. No, seven ton. Yeah. Ah. Yep. Put a suppressor on it this year. I’m pumped about that.

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Yeah. Is it in your name?

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Yes, it’s in my name. I am 21. Okay. Oh, okay.

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I would, no, that’s good. You can, you can make your own decisions. Yes.

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Yep. I’m an adult

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21 and not married.

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That’s right. I make my own decisions for real. That’s

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A little bit misleading. You’re you’re not 21.

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I’m 24. You’re over 21. It’s over 21.

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So anyway, they let you have long

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Rifles. They do.

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You can even probably buy a pistol.

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Yeah. No, I, I have bought pistol. That was my first purchase on my 20. On my 24th. First birthday I went to the pawn shop. Bought a Glock.

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You did? Yeah. I wanna

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Protect myself. That’s when he becomes a man. He

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Gotta protect himself against all the ladies on campus.

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That’s right. Just to prove I could,

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What’s a chamber dam?

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Nine nine. Yeah, I’ve, since I’ve got rid of it since it’s, I like a sig sour a little bit better. Oh yeah. Springfield Sig. Yeah. Yeah. I’m on those now.

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All right. Well anyway, we, we appreciate Fierce and their partnership with us. Of course. We sell ’em here at Epic Outdoors. If you’re looking to get into a rifle or a scope and or a scope, let us know. We can get you into something. A whole setup. Super cheap, super affordable. And it’s an incredible long range setup. My kids are using ’em. I’m using ’em. Of course. You know, we all have guns that we’ve had from 1953. I have the first custom guns I’ve ever owned. And they’re awesome too. I like ’em all. So you can’t have too many rifles

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Sometimes go through pistols with the hunts coming up. Sometimes you go through Yeah. Certain guns. Like, I wanna use that one again. Yeah. I don’t know why news. Yeah. I just see it and I’m like a memory or two pops in your head and like I’m packing that gun. Yeah.

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And with the SIG eight K, I can roll in there and just kind of scroll down. Yeah. See profile. Which profile, looking forward profiles, what I want. Oh, it’s kinda like what Logan does on swiping left or right. That’s right. You know what I mean? I’m looking through my rangefinder. Yep. I think I want that one. Choose which one you wanna spend your time with for this week. I

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Don’t know. That’d be a fun. Hey, that’d be a fun thing. We could all bring all of our guns, personal guns in here. You remember how Logan, when he draws winners for, you know, our social media drawings and stuff. You have that little will thing. You put your personal guns in there and say, Jason, you’re going antelope pin to Wyoming

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With a three 30 is Rome. Which, which one?

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And you win. And it’s a 22. Two 50.

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Okay. It better be legal. That’ll be legal, but, oh yeah.

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Let’s keep the legal parameters. But that may might be fun. I mean, I’d even throw the creedmore in there ’cause I’ve never even killed something like it. I never even hunted with the gun. But I’d throw it on the list.

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I wanna throw out a did you know, or maybe I’ll ask. I don’t know how to ask this question. Hey, but it’s on my mind. You

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Can’t hurt my feelings.

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Did you know that non-residents are not allowed to hunt sage grouse in Nevada? No, I did not know that. Yes. Google that. Add that. Google that. While you

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Add that to the list. The list. We can’t hunt sheds. We can’t trap bobcats. What else?

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Well, okay, so everybody can’t hunt sheds, but they only really go after us. Right. That law was meant for us. Okay.

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The eastern flank of Nevada.

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Yeah. But we can’t, and then we can’t trap bobcats and then we can’t

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Really, and why did this question, why did this come on your

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Mind? They’re, they’re everywhere. You’ve seen I’ve been, I’ve been out and about. We have, do you call ’em Coveys or flock flocks or do, what do you call herds? What do you call

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’em? Look it up. Logan, Che, GBT that I

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Know

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You’re good at that

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Flock. What is, oh, at one water, there would must have been 25 or 30 of ’em. They never quit jumping up. Flushing.

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And they’re thunderously loud.

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And the big ones are just giant. On,

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On, on

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Some episodes of alone.

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That’s like all they survive on. Really? This is grouse. Yeah. What, what state?

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Or, but they were, they’re usually in, they’re using arctic dink grouse. Like little tiny. Yeah, they’re little. But these are you could feed

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Yeah.

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A family. It’s unbelievable. Hey, hey. It doesn’t matter how many mouths you have to feed. These things are giant. They are. They’re giant. I mean, there’s half a lamb flying through the air. I’m just saying. And Nevada is with quarter ground beef. A whole quarter of beef flying through the air. They called a l. No, that’s, no, that’s that’s like a where ground.

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That’s where they mate and where they come to the leck.

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But, but what’s a, a flock of ’em? It’s a cove. Flock. Cove. Flock. Flock. Anyway, pretty funny. That’s funny. Pretty funny. They meet and there was little ones,

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Big ones. I don’t think they’re called to leck, but they meet at the L. But anyway.

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No, it’s saying, yeah, L is the breeding grounds. Covey is like a small flock. And then flock is a large Yeah, this was a large gathering. I mean, and then there was chucker and grouse together. I mean it was just had was like

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Game it was it extravaganza?

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Yeah. It was enjoyable. And like Sean was with me and he had a renewed vigor for wildlife. ’cause we’re usually deep in where there’s no wildlife. There’s no wildlife. Sparrows. I don’t know. Not even that. Maybe some bats and an owl. I mean, there’s nothing out there. So when you’re driving around and you’re seeing game that you could eat and you would actually want to eat, then it’s fun. It’s

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Interesting. Well, and he has a dog, so it’d be fun if you could shoot him and retrieve him and Oh, eat him and keep shooting him and

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Eat them would go wild. It’s, it is. It was wild. And it was like, he might, I don’t have time. I wanna say we saw over a hundred. Wow. In one day. Like Yeah.

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And you verified that. ’cause I wouldn’t know. I don’t put birds other than grouse

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And chuck are a little bit here in Utah.

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Unbelievable. No, you valid. You valid. You verified that we can’t

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Yeah. Google that while we’re talking. What

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Do you mean? I thought you looked it

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Up. I just want a second, second

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Opinion.

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Yeah, I mean, I, I hit chat on it, but sometimes chat’s not quite right and they say that Elon Musk’s, GPT whatever, chat. I don’t know. AI is more like accurate than chat. Yeah. I don’t know. Sometimes Elon Elon’s ed ed in me a little bit lately. So I don’t know if it’s support him, you know, but it was saying that anyway, they’re

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Just like, areas are subject to close to non-residents by the Nevada board. So I don’t know if it’s a general closure of non-resident sage house hunting or if it’s just for right now.

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John will, John will

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Jason, that’s for another day. Look into John.

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You should go back, right? Like this afternoon

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Dude,

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There go. Well they wouldn’t be open until probably September anyway, but

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I don’t want all the residents knowing about it.

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I mean, where were you? Were you

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Ca can non-residents hunt? Fuck

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Shoot grouse.

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Yeah. Fuck shoot. After shooting our hunt grouse,

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Sage used the word sage. I’m sure you can shoot. Okay, here we go. Blues and, but maybe not.

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Alright. Searching. Searching. No. Non-residents are not allowed to hunt sage grass in Nevada, according to the most recent, which was 23, 24, small game hunting regulations explicit are explicitly closed to non-resident hunters in all designated hunt units. It goes on and on.

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There is one notable exception. It says what?

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Well, the governor’s

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Governor Sheldon National Wildlife Refuge, Sage K Hunt.

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They have one there. Special

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Permit only event held on a specific weekend.

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There was so many, it was like, man. And it was, I know there’s been an initiative to save them and to protect them and to conserve them and all the good things. But anyway, Chuck, you’re telling us they’re saved I think with weather. I think with weather and, and you know, we’ve had heavy chucker. Yeah. Whatever.

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Broods, broods.

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Chuck

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Don’t need to look up that

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Truckers are everywhere. And so anyway, maybe it’s kind of the sim similar sage grouse are doing well too in certain parts. All right. Bronson,

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Take us now that we’ve gone to the up on game forecast portion of

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The podcast. Oh, it was unbelievable. It’s blowing my mind. What else

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Have you got? So you’ve been scouting like crazy John Scouting. You’ve been scouting like crazy. Logan’s been scout like crazy, crazy, crazy. Yeah, I’ve been golfing and scouting some.

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You have been. It’s good. We all do other things too. But John, yeah, I opened up my OnX to you. Yes you did. How are you doing with it? I freaking smashed it, you know. Okay. I’ve got over 50 cameras up so there’s no bucks. That’s cool. Yeah, no big bucks yet. I mean, they’re just, you can’t tell how they’re gonna finish. So I know we’ve got some shanks. You got some And some of ’em aren’t slick. Some of ’em aren’t slick. Some of ’em are. Yeah. What about you Logan?

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I have, I gotta do another oil change on my dirt bike. That’s how many trail cameras? I’ve been checking. I was just about

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To ask you about the dirt bike. You haven’t laid it down again or did you

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Haven’t laid it down since the last podcast

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I tell you. Got you are checking cameras on the dirt bike. Oh,

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It’s so nice. It’s 50 times faster than a truck. What? Yeah, I just, I can do it. Trucks. So you divide ’em up, up into sections tracks. Yeah. By about 25 mile radius. You back up in the truck?

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Yeah. Go to the new section.

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Do you know four or five? Just chuck a little. I bought one of those little QU 2000 or 2,500 packs. Throw a couple trail cameras, drill batteries, SD cards in there. Roll. It’s, it’s so fast. It’s unbelievable.

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And so your dad’s like, I see your dad’s enjoying having Logan.

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He went and bought a dirt bike. What? What I, because of, of this, on the 4th of July, I brought my, I had on the 3rd of July, I checked trail cameras with my dirt bike. So when I went home for the fourth, I had it in the back of my truck. My brothers and dad were all down and they’re riding it around, playing on it. And finally my one brother’s, like, he’s just about done with med school and it’s tough. He’s like, I, this is exactly what I need to keep my sanity. So he’s like, do you wanna ride with me tomorrow to Richfield and get a dirt bike? Who

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Said this? Austin

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Brother. My brother Austin. Who’s in med school. Yeah.

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Awesome kid.

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And yeah, and he’s, and so anyway, he decided what one he was gonna buy. And then what, what was it? It was a Kawasaki KTX two 30. So it’s the trail version, the Kawasaki version of what I bought. Oh. And then my brother Andrew is like, well if you’re getting one, I’m getting one. And he decided on a Yamaha TTR two 30. Which

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Is, nobody can get the same. No.

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Well, and then my dad’s like, well if you suckers are all gonna go ride dirt bikes together, I’m not sitting at home.

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I’m doing a TW too high.

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He almost did. He almost did. And then I told him, I said, if you’re gonna get the TW talk to these guys. And he is like, he stuck went to, we were at Jorgenson’s in Richfield and he’s looking around and the Kawasaki trail version has one that’s street legal. And he’s got a motorcycle endorsement. He

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Does.

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And so he bought the two 30.

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But you have to insure it, right? Yes.

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Yeah. Which is not, yeah. Not terrible at all. Registration’s kind of expensive, but not a car. Expensive. And so anyway, he bought the Kawasaki trail bike, but it’s street legal, so it’s got me a little different tune. It Sprocket, which would like,

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If you like art tw probably it’s street

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Legal. Yeah. And yep. So it’s, so we all bought ’em and he went and checked trail cameras on a Saturday night. Oh my. He

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Did. Did he like it?

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Yeah. I, well,

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Everybody

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Was making fun of, because I was complaining about that, that trip I did where I laid it down a lot and my butt hurt and I wasn’t in shape for it. And he is, oh, it’s not that hard. ’cause he drove it wiped him and well you

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Go,

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I only got three done and I had to go back to the truck and do the rest on outta the truck.

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Oh yeah. It’s like riding a horse. If you ride a horse once every 10 years, horse, you can’t walk after two hours. Horseman.

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Horseman. It’s their favorite thing. Yeah. Go ahead and throw a dude on a side. Come

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On green. Go jump on.

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Ah, how’d that feel? How’d that sound treat you? Oh,

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It fits good. Two hours later. You’re begging for mercy.

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I had quite a few people reach out after the last podcast and tell me that I wasn’t up in the night complaining about that dirt bike ride because it’s tough.

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Well that one’s no

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Joke.

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Yeah. Yeah. But so I’ve told you, I’ve known people to take trucks up there.

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Yeah. And I would like to meet those people.

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Okay. Well

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That was probably 25 years ago.

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It was, it

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Was. That road had some weathering and erosion.

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I was considering whether or not you could take a side by side up it. It’s bad.

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Yeah, you can. I mean, if

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You’re man enough, huh?

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Well, I mean, you

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Know, mouth guard,

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Bunch

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Of plugs.

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My side by side’s got like seven over 7,000 miles now. It’s no joke. Yeah. I mean, anyway, but whatever. Alright.

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You guys have been getting after a while, I like it. It’s the heat of the season. Yep. We’ve only got three weeks left to pull cameras down. Roughly. Plus or minus. Yeah.

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And Utah, throw shout out to stealth cam. You we’re putting those out like crazy. Yeah. And shout out. So stealth cam

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Being stealthy.

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Anybody needs one? Give us

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A holler. We got, we’re actually running, running low, aren’t we? Yeah, we’re getting down to the end. I think we had, I don’t know, a few dozen. Yeah,

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I would say like 50,

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60.

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Yeah.

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Which that’s down from Yeah. Hundreds and hundreds. Yeah. So

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I kind of wish I lived in New Mexico. There’s none of these janky laws. Oh, you go. So you can’t run a cellular camp, but you can run regular cameras year round. Yeah.

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Yeah. We learned that by saying that on a podcast.

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Oh, I know. Gave and fish hit us right away and that’s fine. We only had a couple out

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Joked about it being one.

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Just we didn’t, we didn’t, I’m just teasing.

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We, we joked about it being, you know, literally one step above Old Mexico because

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It borders it. Yeah. Yeah.

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And that you probably could. No you can’t.

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No you can’t. Yeah. So anyway, but you can

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Let SD card cameras run 365.

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Yeah. I mean that’s one of the good, good states. We’re gonna look at it like, I don’t know, like

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One of the good ones Texas,

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You know, like Wyoming. I don’t know one of the last holdouts one the last good ones. But anyway, yeah. So there you are. Scouting’s going good. Scouting’s going great. Yeah, I know my gear. It is time to buy gear. And so we’ve been buying gear, but my gear hasn’t left the office. Okay. So Adam keeps looking at my gear

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ITing up. Well

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I have, he’s got the same gear,

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75% of what he has. Same

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Here. Same here. I just

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Take it, I, I did take clean my desk an office a couple weeks

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Ago. Yeah. And I was looking, I said I haven’t had time. Yeah. I, I got a bone needs to be shot right there. I got small spotters, all kinds of stuff. And so big spotters, big whatever, you know, stuff scopes. But anyway, it’s just the time is the

00:15:17:24 –> 00:15:57:05
Season. It is. And it’s definitely picked up here. We’ve been getting a lot of calls this last, well after the fourth, I don’t know, probably. It’s just July calendar flipped. And for a lot of the earlier hunts starting August, antelope, deer, archery, deer, you know, even archery, they’re kicking off here soon. So a lot of guys are buying tripods, buying all spot and scope. Everything. We’ve, we’ve still got a lot of inventory. We make a point to stay up on that. And so if you need something and you put it off, give us a call because we can get it to you fast. And we’ve actually already, already started to get some calls. Jason. I think you got one or somebody else for people that are using your gear out there dropping, buying os and getting ’em out of alignment and then they

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Need something fast. Well, some of these guys are hardcore and just, they, they’re glass and heavy. What’s

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Happen to

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All of us. And they dropped a pair of 15. Like, Hey,

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It’s happened to me and you. Yes. I’ve had ’em tip over on the old days on the tripod. And

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You can send them back. Now they’re outta

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They send them

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And they, you’re

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A month or two out, you’re not gonna, and the hunts are coming up. So keep all that in mind. Give us a call. But if you have been putting something off, give us a call. Well, inventory is full.

00:16:22:08 –> 00:16:27:07
So also, Logan, you talked about q you grabbing a little pack. How do you like the pack? Which one?

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I love that I did a little QU order a couple weeks ago. It’s the, oh man, I wish I could remember what

00:16:33:08 –> 00:16:37:24
Called Logan. I just wanna stop you right there. Okay. Logan spends more money on gear Bros than you and

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I. Okay. And we’ve documented this many times. I, I sold him a gun earlier in the year that

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I, then I sell him a gun, a muzzle or both.

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And I try to sell him something and he goes, I’m done. I’m done, Adam, I’m done spending money. The next dirt bike, he buys a dirt bike. I remember the next week he buys a muzzle loader. I know

00:16:53:29 –> 00:16:56:29
A rifle might. I love seeing that. Leave money. And

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Now I hear about of a big q you order. I mean, look at this. What’s the total scroll down? I wanna see the total. Oh,

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I’ve ordered some stuff from q you, I did the Venture Divide 2000.

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Whoa. Venture Divide.

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I got, it’s, it’s a sweet pack. It’s, I, so I got one for my dad for Father’s Day. ’cause he’s got an archery hunt this year. He just needs to be able to throw some water and some stuff in and go. And I bought him one and I got here and I was like, oh crap, I need one too. Yeah. Because I had that dirt bike and I was like that perfect. Need

00:17:23:03 –> 00:17:23:19
You, I like

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That work. Neat. And then the Tiburon pants, the,

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The tron or no jokes?

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They are, and I, so they’re thin pants for the summer. They’re really thin. And I was a little bit cautious ordering them because with those thin pants, sometimes they just tear. So we on and

00:17:39:21 –> 00:17:41:21
Stuff, they tear. But you order those and you need ’em.

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Yes. You do need ’em. You do. But I wore ’em that day that I laid my dirt bike down like 15 times. Not even a thread is showing. Huh? So

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They’re, you need new handlebars, but your

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Pants are fine. But my pants lasted. And so job, that was, that was a testimony of,

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I live in those all summer mall.

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Mall. So why does it say welcome back? Best customer of the year? Why does it say probably, why

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Does it say that? I think I’m ranked three out of all 20,000. I mean, it’s

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Just, that’s no joke. I love it.

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I love it. I’m closing out my account before you guys can look.

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It’s good stuff.

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Yeah.

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I, I, I’ve been buying a bunch of stuff too. I, you know, Ty got home, so he grew, so he’s been, he’s been trying on his clothes and you know, he went out with like a 20, 28 waist or 29. Now he is, you know, on 32 or 34. Yeah. He filled out. So yeah, his pants don’t fit at all.

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So, and

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They’re, I like it when that happens to other people.

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Me too. Yeah. I mean, geez. But yeah, so we’ve been stocking up too. Did a big order and, you know, got it real fast. It was lucky. You know, little bit earlier. It’s another thing with QU too is since they’re consumer direct, they do is they get the heart of the hunting season. Sometimes they run outta stuff. So definitely encourage you to check them [email protected]. They’re awesome gear. No matter whether you got early season hunts, late season hunts, they got, they got it all. They’re start to finish all year long. And a lot of different practical uses for summer layering, base layer, outerwear, insulation, sleep bags, packs, everything. So

00:19:10:07 –> 00:19:12:25
We love KUK uiu.com. Alright,

00:19:13:07 –> 00:19:17:09
Speaking of dropping waist sizes, John, how many waist sizes are you down since Sunday?

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I’m a little thinner. I

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Weighed myself last night. I was actually,

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How we gonna talk about the greasy details with you guys?

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It was not time for that yet.

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That’s my bad. No, we might as well. We have,

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Let’s dive into the greasy details. That

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Was the number one request is we wanted a mid, a midweek thing. This is not mid. We’ve been, we’re about 30 hours into this thing you guys.

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My last meal was Sunday at five. Jason,

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You might want to clarify. You did not participate.

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I’ve got cameras to run, scouting to do. I misspoke. This is awkward. All I get excited and I was like, I can’t do this. I’m gonna die do this. And I have to have a good attitude. Like, I don’t, I mean, and

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You’re gonna, you might die out there

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If, if anybody else out there that doesn’t eat do they get hangry. You know what I mean? Anyway, this just wasn’t the week. Are

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You two holding up all right though? Yeah. Logan, you act like you’re John.

00:20:02:03 –> 00:20:05:25
It’s very interesting. Yeah, it is. It is weird. Without shocking Don in too much detail.

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Well, it’s just the basics.

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Well I was thinking it was like a colon cleanse, but it’s not, it’s not like that at all. So it’s, you know, that hasn’t been then

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Why the cayenne?

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So Yeah, I don’t, I don’t know, but, well,

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It’s something to think about, but like throughout the day I’m

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Very,

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You tell you just drink water and

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I’m not as hungry as I thought I’d be. I thought I’d be dying. But I think the, the cayenne syrup, lemons, lemon,

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It’s faking you out.

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It’s something and it’s like churning in my gut, gut. I’m not that hungry. Wow. Yeah. So, yeah,

00:20:37:01 –> 00:20:47:29
I struggle. I told John, I was like, I struggle around the times that I usually eat. So lunchtime and dinner time I’m struggling. And then kind of get into the mode, start working, get distracted. And you’re like, you don’t even notice

00:20:47:29 –> 00:20:55:12
It. If you notice John, even Logan, like Jason and I have just slipped outta here the last two days. Gone to lunch. Yeah. We’re not trying to make it hard on

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That. No, that’s, it’s good. Mean we’re fine if

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You wanna come visit at lunch. But to eat in front of a guy’s Yeah. Root,

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It’s kind of bad.

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No, it’s, I, I’m fine so far. I don’t, you know, it’s, it’s interesting. So I mean it’s second day is supposed to be the hardest. But yeah,

00:21:12:02 –> 00:21:12:29
So far it’s been a

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No brainer. First the concoction that you drink, just

00:21:16:04 –> 00:21:18:18
Nasty is rough. Is it worse than MiraLax?

00:21:19:09 –> 00:21:21:13
No, the MiraLax. Is it

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GBT the concoction and not just go by everybody’s word for it? Like,

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Is that a common,

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I did some research. It’s, that’s the recipe that everybody,

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It is

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Amount sugar,

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Amount of cayenne. Yeah. The amount of cayenne is the one that varies the most, but it only varies between half a teaspoon to a full teaspoon per gallon. So,

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And it’s hard to explain like how it’s just, it’s disgusting, but it’s like, it, it doesn’t really taste like strong and you just chug it, chug it, chug it back your throat, then all of a sudden your throat is on fire. What? But it’s not like spicy. It’s just weird. The burn. And then if I don’t chase it with the apex stuff, I couldn’t do it if I

00:22:01:05 –> 00:22:02:11
Didn’t have it. You gotta chase it with something.

00:22:02:13 –> 00:22:03:09
Ah, yeah. You

00:22:03:13 –> 00:22:05:16
Just to get a fruity flavor back in. Yeah.

00:22:05:22 –> 00:22:10:10
So we have to back up a little and explain to people that didn’t listen to the last podcast. You guys are having this,

00:22:10:13 –> 00:22:11:23
It was all over social. I

00:22:12:09 –> 00:22:30:18
Clans and I think somehow you guys felt compelled to tell the world that I, I am doing the five day purge. So did you No, I didn’t do it. I didn’t. I know, but you told everyone Friday. So you guys posted, I signed up for the five day clip. It’s kinda

00:22:30:18 –> 00:22:32:04
Like gonna do it. I got hit

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Up by

00:22:32:07 –> 00:22:35:18
Social media is holding you accountable. Yes. It’s kinda like having the accountability buddy.

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Got gotta have it. I,

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I knew that if I went into this with the opportunity to back out, I would back out.

00:22:41:13 –> 00:22:43:09
So you went out full, full force?

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Oh yeah. Yeah.

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With

00:22:45:00 –> 00:22:45:15
Your hand in the air.

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What about your dad? Is he in it?

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No, he thinks I’m an idiot. So.

00:22:49:20 –> 00:22:49:29
Well,

00:22:49:29 –> 00:22:52:24
Logan, you’re 24 too. You can’t have much stored in your colon.

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I don’t know this.

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Oh, he’s eight some crap. Yeah.

00:22:55:16 –> 00:23:03:15
So for background last podcast, if you, if you don’t know what we’re talking about, go listen to the last podcast. We’re doing a, a five day cleanse. The

00:23:03:15 –> 00:23:04:06
Master cleanse.

00:23:04:09 –> 00:23:25:10
Yeah. Master cleanse. We call it the Apex body cleanse and there’s links to it. And then we’ve got a special discount for Apex products on, for on our, not on our website, but just on their website. If you do AP Epic 25, you get 25% off. And Yeah,

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I noticed on our credit card statement, Jan, I went and bought a bunch. Did you? She, yeah. I’m like can you

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Do a I did too. Who

00:23:30:29 –> 00:23:32:00
Authorized those purchases?

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Yeah, I went and bought a bunch. Good. Yeah, I mean, without it I couldn’t do it. It’s just no way.

00:23:38:24 –> 00:23:53:06
But even at that, it, it’s good stuff. I, we’re drinking it on the daily now, so it’s good stuff. Yep. Alright, so well, good luck to you. Good luck week greasy buggers. Yep. Good luck. Maybe stay on your side. You know, you gotta go do something.

00:23:53:10 –> 00:23:56:15
We, we, Monday morning we drew that line of the sand very deep.

00:23:57:19 –> 00:23:59:10
Adam told me I was not allowed. Not

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Allowed. You and John have your side. You guys

00:24:01:23 –> 00:24:14:03
Looked, I would say this morning you looked a little yellow. It’s possible. Adam’s like, they don’t look, hell, they go look at ’em. And I went over there and I was like, hi guys, how are you doing? Oh, we’re doing fine. You look yellow.

00:24:14:10 –> 00:24:18:18
It mainly was the matter. I I could tell there was a little let lethargy. It’s

00:24:18:26 –> 00:24:19:05
Yeah,

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There’s a mental, that’s

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A word. There’s a mental fog that goes along

00:24:21:22 –> 00:24:21:25
The,

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Just a little bit. Yeah. I had to tell John that where his computer was, I had to show him back

00:24:27:12 –> 00:24:28:28
To his desk. John, here’s your login.

00:24:30:03 –> 00:24:54:04
Here’s a, here’s a thumb back. Not really, but well wish you the best. And I, yeah, for the record, yeah, I would’ve done it. But, and like Devon, others are, we got trips coming up here soon and I don’t wanna be re in recovery mode while I’m on an airplane somewhere. Yeah. I wouldn’t, I know Devin and Wyatt, I wouldn’t do it if I had something. They just had this pending a good break for five days. No trail cameras. Yeah. Lined up perfectly. No, nothing.

00:24:54:12 –> 00:24:56:16
You decided what you’re gonna eat when you’re, when you’re done, John.

00:24:56:28 –> 00:25:00:01
No, this is torture. Apparently you have to ease into it. So

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Like a piece of bread would be good. Yeah, applesauce would be good.

00:25:02:22 –> 00:25:05:17
You know. So that ginormous New York strip I bought and put my head What?

00:25:07:07 –> 00:25:08:27
Not first. You’re, you don’t have any,

00:25:09:01 –> 00:25:09:10
Some

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Saltines maybe.

00:25:10:13 –> 00:25:10:22
Yeah.

00:25:11:06 –> 00:25:14:16
How does a kid Logan’s age buying freaking steak strip steak?

00:25:14:21 –> 00:25:15:00
It’s

00:25:15:23 –> 00:25:16:18
Unbelievable. He has no

00:25:16:21 –> 00:25:19:21
Kids and no life. That’s right. Here we go. I mean, Logan,

00:25:20:04 –> 00:25:21:23
That’s what they call savings accounts.

00:25:21:26 –> 00:25:22:16
What I would do is

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Find, that’s for when you’re old, what

00:25:24:18 –> 00:25:29:25
You, your first thing should be dunking Graham crackers in the almond milk or something. Oh

00:25:29:26 –> 00:25:39:06
Yeah. All right. That I can handle tomato soup and a cheese grilled cheese sandwich. Oyster cracker. I love to take a grilled cheese sandwich and dip it. Tomato soup. Love it.

00:25:40:06 –> 00:25:41:19
Sorry. That’s enough food dog.

00:25:42:19 –> 00:25:44:16
Okay, nevermind. What’s your favorite food?

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I, I want a 24 ounce rib. Seasoned. Well, oh

00:25:50:13 –> 00:25:52:15
Me too thick twice baked potato

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And all the fat that’s on the outside. You eat every bit. Oh, just suck it.

00:25:57:04 –> 00:26:00:00
I like a loaded, twice baked baked potato. That’s really good.

00:26:00:06 –> 00:26:01:09
I’m deleting this whole episode.

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Grilled shrimp.

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Sweet potato

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Shish kebabs.

00:26:05:12 –> 00:26:07:24
Geez. Surf and turf. Oh

00:26:07:24 –> 00:26:10:13
Yeah. All,

00:26:10:21 –> 00:26:11:19
All guys. Well

00:26:11:19 –> 00:26:12:03
Good luck with the

00:26:12:03 –> 00:26:17:03
Cayenne. I admire you. Thank you. I admire you. Yeah. Admire you for sticking to something. I don’t think I’ve gone

00:26:17:03 –> 00:26:19:17
Over 24 hours let before without. Let’s wait. Let’s

00:26:19:17 –> 00:26:27:06
See, let’s see. Go. Yeah, you’re already 30 or something. Yeah, 30 something. I haven’t gone over. It’s not a big deal. It’s kind of cool though, just to see what it does to your body. I like it. I mean, it’s five days you’re not gonna die.

00:26:27:06 –> 00:26:45:29
They say there’s huge benefits to intermittent fasting. Yeah. And you’re doing much more than that. Yeah. So it’s a reset mentally. That’s good. All kinds of things. Yeah. It’s exciting. Good stuff. I’m, I’m way excited for You just need to go check those cameras once in a while. Don’t forget that. Because the deer aren’t gonna find themselves. You know what I mean? Alright, so,

00:26:46:02 –> 00:27:10:10
Oh, Pete, I had, I have a question on, on the cameras, just the last time I was out. And so I wanted to ask you guys, you know, sometimes you just get in your thing, you just do cameras the way that you’ve always done cameras. And I was outta water and a guy pulled up and he stood there next to his camera and we had a problem with one of our cameras. So I had to like do some maintenance and so I was there for a little

00:27:10:10 –> 00:27:11:11
Bit. You’re janking with it?

00:27:11:23 –> 00:27:12:01
Yeah.

00:27:12:05 –> 00:27:22:04
Batteries or whatever. And so he stood there for 10 minutes, maybe, you know, looking at something, whatever he had. And then he’s like, alright, I’m done. Like

00:27:22:05 –> 00:27:22:24
A viewfinder.

00:27:22:27 –> 00:27:24:29
Yeah. Like some, I don’t know, something. Probably

00:27:24:29 –> 00:27:25:03
A

00:27:25:03 –> 00:27:26:04
Viewer. Yeah. A viewer,

00:27:26:11 –> 00:27:31:05
Whatever. Well, this, this 32 GM max 32 vision Right. Has the screen on it. But

00:27:31:07 –> 00:27:37:21
My question is, I’m getting between 2000 and 8,000 photos for camera. Right. So

00:27:37:21 –> 00:27:38:21
You can’t do that at every spot.

00:27:38:22 –> 00:27:44:12
How do you check it? You can’t in in, you don’t check to two days T on, on a don’t. Yeah, you can’t, don’t. So you gotta have d What

00:27:44:12 –> 00:27:53:28
You do is you throw it, you throw it in that little card reader in your phone and you make sure it’s taking night shots. It got a picture of you walking up, it’s taking night shots and day shots. And then you can see the water

00:27:54:01 –> 00:27:55:11
And then you’d go home and look at ’em later.

00:27:55:18 –> 00:27:58:27
And then, yeah. And then you stuff it in. He change out the card. He

00:27:58:27 –> 00:28:01:09
Looked like he just put the card back in and he was like, okay,

00:28:01:09 –> 00:28:02:09
Well if he did, he probably

00:28:02:19 –> 00:28:03:17
Put on another

00:28:03:20 –> 00:28:08:24
Card, but if he didn’t, he’s got it set to 30 seconds or a minute. And he got, yeah.

00:28:08:26 –> 00:28:14:25
He missed 600 pictures. I don’t, it was just curious. Like I’ve got, I mean, some

00:28:14:25 –> 00:28:15:07
Of my cameras

00:28:15:12 –> 00:28:18:24
Storage space is an issue. Some of the sheep, you know what that many photos.

00:28:19:18 –> 00:28:20:11
Then you chill it out

00:28:20:12 –> 00:28:29:29
When the weather’s this hot in Nevada and you run ’em on sheep guzzlers, you’ll take over a thousand a day and you, you fit 12 to 15,000 pitchers on some cards depending on your resolution. Yeah.

00:28:30:19 –> 00:28:30:25
But

00:28:31:06 –> 00:28:40:12
E either that’s the, you’ll either fill ’em up or your batteries are just dead from taking too many pictures. Yeah. And so you got about 10 to 14 days, so you can’t

00:28:40:12 –> 00:28:49:05
Let, and so you’ll take a bigger card, like a 64 gig or 32 gig. Yeah. Or like Adam, like if you’re on a guzzler, a sheet guzzler and you’re short, short range, do eight meg photos.

00:28:49:08 –> 00:28:50:00
You don’t need. So

00:28:50:15 –> 00:28:51:24
16. Right. And,

00:28:51:24 –> 00:28:55:27
Or then chill it out too. The, the sheep will, we call it grab a, whatever they

00:28:56:00 –> 00:28:56:13
Play around,

00:28:56:15 –> 00:28:59:18
Stand around forever, whatever. And, and so you’ll chill it out. You’ll do one

00:28:59:24 –> 00:29:02:04
Picture, 30, 25, 30 seconds. There’s works.

00:29:02:07 –> 00:29:09:06
But I’ve got like, you know, 50 plus cameras and probably 20 extra cards. I don’t have enough to like, just Yeah.

00:29:09:06 –> 00:29:09:15
You’re

00:29:09:15 –> 00:29:11:07
Collect all the cards. Cards. And then

00:29:11:14 –> 00:29:15:17
I’ve got 20 cards in each orifice of my truck. You know what I mean? Like when you get rolling.

00:29:15:29 –> 00:29:19:10
I have an even number or two and a half times, two and a half times.

00:29:19:27 –> 00:29:30:00
But I added, you know, a lot of cameras this year. So anyway. Yeah. What I was doing was I was swapping out cards, putting in a fresh one and then, but like you said, my way to

00:29:30:00 –> 00:29:31:04
The next 1, 15, 20 that haven’t been

00:29:31:07 –> 00:29:31:27
Checked yet.

00:29:32:03 –> 00:29:37:05
Yeah, those would be checked. You would have 15 to 20 extras to work with. Yeah. You know, you would stay on top of that.

00:29:37:09 –> 00:29:48:07
Well, I’ve downloaded ’em all to my computer and then I ran outta space, like on my computer. I was like, this is serious space. So I had to pull out a hard drive and start putting ’em on the hard drive. But I mean, it’s, geez.

00:29:49:02 –> 00:29:49:11
Yeah.

00:29:49:24 –> 00:29:52:15
You know, but yeah, A lot,

00:29:52:28 –> 00:29:54:22
Lot of space. These are called first world problems.

00:29:56:15 –> 00:30:00:19
Chill ’em out. You could always chill ’em out. But, but if you do that you just, you

00:30:00:19 –> 00:30:01:24
Know, run the risk of missing something.

00:30:01:24 –> 00:30:03:00
But it’s fine. You’re missings

00:30:03:00 –> 00:30:04:13
Or having a low re or, or

00:30:04:13 –> 00:30:11:12
Having a low. No, I mean, yeah. I just, I I need to add some more cards. But it works good. It’s just, man, that’s a, that’s a

00:30:11:25 –> 00:30:12:16
Lot. Some places

00:30:12:29 –> 00:30:13:18
Could go through. Yeah.

00:30:13:18 –> 00:30:22:06
Some places have eight total deer hitting them and no horses and very little. And you can get away with a lot more there than you can. A place with cattle, horses, horses,

00:30:22:09 –> 00:30:22:19
Birds,

00:30:23:03 –> 00:30:27:27
And a bunch of deer and bats all night long. Yeah. You know, you gotta kinda,

00:30:27:27 –> 00:30:31:21
Then you’ve got scheduled out. Scheduled and you’re doing night shots. 8:00 PM day,

00:30:31:23 –> 00:30:34:11
Avoid everything in the middle of the day, you know, nine, 10:00 AM

00:30:34:13 –> 00:30:38:13
Then you’re missing that one buck comes in at 10:00 AM which it happens.

00:30:38:25 –> 00:30:47:11
Oh, on Saturday I had a little buck and two dos walk through my backyard noon. I’m like, why? Why are you up? Yeah. You know.

00:30:47:24 –> 00:31:01:22
Yeah. Yeah. Kind of crazy. Kind of interesting. Kind of fun. All right. So anyway, there you go. Everybody’s out and about doing scouting. We also have summertime things as far as gaining

00:31:01:22 –> 00:31:37:27
Points. Yeah. There’s, yep. July flipped. And that means you got some points only application periods open. Now I’m sure we’ll mention this several more times between now and the end. But we’re gonna list them out right here out of the gate right now. All these are open, they open the 1st of July, but we’ve got Montana bonus points open until September 30th. Yeah. These are for deer, elk, and antelope and sheep, moose, goat bonus points. If you did not apply for those species already, you can go get the points. Now the preference point is open, which applies to the general deer, elk combos that’s open till December 31st. Yeah.

00:31:38:02 –> 00:31:38:16
July one,

00:31:39:06 –> 00:31:55:21
December 31. They give you like five or six months to do that one. Keep in mind, that one’s a hundred bucks. Don’t go buy that tag or buy that point 20, 25 point again if you applied for a big game combo, even if you apply it and didn’t pay the preference point fee, you can’t go buy one now. Well,

00:31:55:21 –> 00:31:57:06
You one application. That’s

00:31:57:06 –> 00:32:06:27
Right. So you had to skip the, the general application altogether. Now you can buy one, but don’t go waste or spend the a hundred bucks if you don’t intend to apply in 2026. Yes. You’ll lose

00:32:06:27 –> 00:32:08:03
The But the one nice thing

00:32:08:17 –> 00:32:09:24
Gives you options. Yeah.

00:32:09:24 –> 00:32:23:06
The a hundred bucks gave gave me an option. It does. You you got to apply it does, does. You got you. And you were like, or I got to apply and I was like, oh, i’s kind of glad I had the option. ’cause my, my mentality changed from say December 15. So

00:32:23:06 –> 00:32:34:06
Maybe you wait until December 31st because by then, yes, you’re getting into 2026 mode anyway. You get a plan. But if you, you know, that’s a use or lose every year. You buy one this year, you gotta use it next year.

00:32:34:08 –> 00:32:38:01
That’s why you’re saying don’t just buy it. Is is Yeah. The following year, it’s invalid.

00:32:38:01 –> 00:32:48:03
Yeah. We’re, we’re taught, we’re always taught buy points. Buy 0.4, that’s one you mind, it’s a hundred bucks. But, but also think about it. If you know there’s no way I’m putting in for Montana, don’t, don’t go buy it this year. It’s one

00:32:48:03 –> 00:32:51:12
Of those. So you buy a point and then the following year you have to apply for a tag or,

00:32:51:20 –> 00:32:52:27
And you buy your second one at that

00:32:52:27 –> 00:33:04:15
Point and you’ll get your second one. And it, it’s good for that particular draw. 2026. So now you have two points and you’re good to go. And if you were to go with an outfitter, you now have the outfitter, you could jump to three if you want. You’ve got three, which is the max. Anyway. You’re

00:33:04:15 –> 00:33:44:06
Gonna, you’re gonna draw. So, so yep. So the bonus points, September 30th in Montana, the preference for the general December 31st. Wyoming’s also open right now, Wyoming’s a little bit differently. When you apply for the sheep and the moose, you have the option. Right. Then Jason, if you remember Yeah. Deduct 150 bucks for my refund. Keep a point or not. But the deer, elk, and antelope, it’s, it’s screwy. You apply for it, you’re unsuccessful. They don’t automatically give you a point. So even if you applied for dear elk and antelope and were unsuccessful, don’t assume you got a point. We’ve been saying this for years. You gotta go buy your dear elk and antelope points right now. Even if you applied

00:33:44:06 –> 00:33:50:01
For it. Even if you applied. That’s the one thing I think that people forget about is Well I applied already. Yeah, you did. Every

00:33:50:01 –> 00:34:19:22
Other state gives it to you. Yeah. Automatically. Yeah. Wyoming for deer, elk, and antelope doesn’t get those done by October 31st. I did mine the other day just so I could forget about ’em. Both the Montana, Wyoming. Last one I wanna cover is, is Oregon. Oregon’s not as common. These other states. Montana. Hey Montana, come on. But Montana, Wyoming, you can, you know, you have to wait till the summer to do your points. But Oregon, you can do, do your points only in the regular drop. Most

00:34:19:22 –> 00:34:22:09
People get it in the regular drop due by May 15. Yeah.

00:34:22:09 –> 00:34:27:22
But these others, two states don’t let you do your points only early. You have to wait. Oregon, you could have, so that’s due if you

00:34:28:12 –> 00:34:33:11
To Oregon didn’t apply, whatever, now you’ve got another option. That’s right. They’ll, they’ll take your money clear up until November 30th.

00:34:33:17 –> 00:34:34:12
November 30th. That’s,

00:34:34:12 –> 00:34:34:19
That’s right.

00:34:34:22 –> 00:34:45:21
Pretty cool. So get those done. Get ’em out of the way. Yeah. Prep, prepare for next year. Yeah. But also have, I’m gonna give a shout out for a few land or tags. We got Kick it off. Oh,

00:34:45:27 –> 00:34:47:01
I like it. That’s why

00:34:47:21 –> 00:34:49:10
Only got one deer tag right now. These

00:34:49:10 –> 00:34:55:21
Are opportunities similar to say going to our website. Yeah. And finding the new listings that Devin puts on there. Yep.

00:34:56:04 –> 00:35:08:22
We are getting calls from Outfitters with people. It’s getting that time of year. Call them cancellations, call them just changing plans. People have whatever issues need to bump hundred a year, a year out. Now they got an opening this year.

00:35:08:27 –> 00:35:13:23
Logie Bear gets married. That’s right. Whatever. All sudden, all of a sudden he doesn’t have choices. New bike goes up, he’s gotta sell

00:35:13:23 –> 00:35:13:27
A

00:35:13:27 –> 00:35:21:19
Motorcycle. Oh no. Gotta sell a gun to pay for the ring. Nope. Motorcycle first and last month. Rent on some wazoo place, pause it.

00:35:22:15 –> 00:35:26:09
All that type of thing. Logan reality’s gonna hit you. Sell hard when it

00:35:26:09 –> 00:35:35:22
Comes. Oh guys, I don’t know. I’ve, I’m really happy, but I’m not so happy. We will always have options even if I’m married.

00:35:37:21 –> 00:36:01:23
Well, yeah. And you’re right Jason. These landowner tags are unit wide tags. You know, we do have people on a waiting list for a lot of these tags as they come available. But at some point we get to the end of that and or people’s plans change. But as far as deer, the only deer tag we have is an oh five one Nevada deer tag. And keep in mind on Nevada deer tag, those are valid for all seasons. You an archery rifle. Muzzle loader gives you about three, three months to hunt. And

00:36:01:23 –> 00:36:03:15
It’s actually a freaking good tag. Yeah.

00:36:03:21 –> 00:36:03:28
Yep.

00:36:04:03 –> 00:36:04:12
It’s,

00:36:04:19 –> 00:36:44:07
Yep. Northern Nevada oh five one. Give us a call, give Devon a call if you’re rest in that, we do have what, some six C archery in mature bull tags in New Mexico. And a couple, looks like they’ve still got a couple of 15 muzzle loader tags for de elk. Those are all elk. 15 muzzle loader. A pair of those six C Archer, six C mature bull in New Mexico as well. Best way to get ahold is probably just call it (435) 263-0777. Probably ask for Devon. You know, he’s probably the one that, you know, if you want just to tag only, we’ll sell it to you. That way if you need an outfitter to go with the tag, he’s probably the guy you need to talk to about that. Yeah. So, but yeah, those aren’t gonna last too long.

00:36:44:21 –> 00:37:15:25
I don’t think so either. We just, and a great, great values. Yeah. You know, the muzz or tags in New Mexico are interesting. I think we, we always talk about where you can kill a big bull and, and they’re $50,000 tags in Nevada. They’re, they’re 30 really 20 to 50 plus, 20 to 80, 20 to a hundred whatever here in Utah. But New Mexico, because the iron site provision, the five day season, things like that makes it a little less valuable. Yeah. Maybe even a lot less valuable. Yeah. But you’re still hunting big poles. Yeah, you are. You know what I mean? I mean you’re hunting three

00:37:15:25 –> 00:37:23:00
50, the best bang for the buck in terms of dollar per dollar. Yeah. You can’t compete with Utah and Nevada. No.

00:37:23:00 –> 00:38:10:11
So go hunt open site. Okay. It’s fine. It’s an awesome tag. John, you’ve hunt 15. Yeah, I’ve 115. There’s elk everywhere. There’s, it’s great. And it’s one of those units, you know how, like we talked about Ely Elk units being, they’ve been good for three decades. Yeah. You know, two and a half decades your whole lives. Pretty much the whole hunting as far as I can remember, they’ve been awesome. That’s okay. Unit fifteen’s like that. I had a 15 when I was in my teenage years. Okay. Long time ago. Three and a half decades ago, whatever. Yeah. And it’s been good since then. Interesting Borders, unit 1 27 of Arizona. Just a great opportunity for guys to go down there, do it yourself. Tons of public land, tons of access. Anyone can do it. You’re not backpacking. Four wheelers side byside, which four wheelers aren’t even a thing anymore it feels like. You know what I mean? I still got one. Let’s call it side-by-sides and dirt bikes for Logan. John,

00:38:10:11 –> 00:38:10:23
Do you still

00:38:10:23 –> 00:38:13:23
Have a three wheeler and trucks? I’ve got multiple three wheelers.

00:38:14:03 –> 00:38:15:13
How many? Speaking of four wheelers.

00:38:15:19 –> 00:38:16:17
Two. Now I’ve

00:38:16:17 –> 00:38:20:18
Got two. You know, you give, I’ve got a, John ends up with an RV storage. What do you got in there, John?

00:38:21:09 –> 00:38:30:05
I, well, you know, recreational vehicles, I’ve got a really soft spot in my heart. Good point. For the 1980s. Oh, oh my gosh.

00:38:30:29 –> 00:38:32:04
They even have shocks back

00:38:32:04 –> 00:38:36:09
Then. I’ve got a, yeah, 1984. 200 X Honda.

00:38:36:19 –> 00:38:37:13
Is it Cherry? Cherry?

00:38:37:15 –> 00:38:38:11
It’s cherry. Yeah.

00:38:38:17 –> 00:38:39:24
I don’t know what year it was when the

00:38:39:24 –> 00:38:41:22
Big red came out then A big red. I’ve got a big red

00:38:41:22 –> 00:38:43:27
Cherry my grandpa bought, got reverse little cherry brand new.

00:38:44:00 –> 00:38:44:09
Okay.

00:38:44:09 –> 00:38:45:05
So, and a

00:38:45:27 –> 00:38:51:09
Aaron grew up on those and I’m like, I don’t know how many times we rode those. Yeah. Going 20 miles an hour

00:38:52:28 –> 00:38:53:05
And,

00:38:53:06 –> 00:38:55:11
And no. Never got really hurt. No. I

00:38:55:11 –> 00:38:56:21
Don’t know how. And the helmets weren’t a thing.

00:38:56:24 –> 00:38:58:07
No, no. We didn’t have helmets.

00:38:58:07 –> 00:39:09:25
Yeah. But I saw a three wheeler being ridden by the way out there. Yeah. Three peaks. And he was, I mean every rim, all three rims were janked. Everything was janked fenders.

00:39:10:01 –> 00:39:10:07
Oh.

00:39:10:21 –> 00:39:17:25
Didn’t have any. And I was just like, oh my gosh, that’s a relic. Yeah. That kid is gonna roll this thing. I mean, geez.

00:39:18:12 –> 00:39:22:07
No, I grew up on, on three wheelers. So it’s like, that’s what I did. Totally. Well,

00:39:22:07 –> 00:39:25:19
I mean, I too, but I, what I did learn is you should get rid of ’em if you own

00:39:25:19 –> 00:39:25:24
One.

00:39:26:24 –> 00:39:27:04
You did.

00:39:27:15 –> 00:39:31:12
I love it. Yeah. I mean you can drift it back in like nothing else. Oh my

00:39:31:12 –> 00:39:33:07
Gosh. Remember got,

00:39:33:13 –> 00:39:38:18
I remember you do this the eighties you do on the front plowing around, remember? So

00:39:38:18 –> 00:39:48:04
How scary. So how do you keep from the carburetor, from gumming up? Are you just running non ethanol or are you, do you have a system every six months you start it Or do you dry it out?

00:39:48:09 –> 00:39:50:29
No, my carburetor gets gummed up and then I gotta fix it. Yeah.

00:39:51:06 –> 00:39:51:24
Okay. Yeah.

00:39:52:04 –> 00:39:53:19
I, I need to be better at it. Just

00:39:53:21 –> 00:39:55:27
Dry it up. Like I think just drain it and dry

00:39:55:27 –> 00:40:02:16
It up. Yeah. I did that on the 200 x the, the other one didn’t, didn’t get done so well. So I’ve gotta work on the carburetor. Yeah.

00:40:02:24 –> 00:40:06:24
I’ve just been wondering myself. ’cause I got generators and I just dried up and stored ’em And

00:40:07:01 –> 00:40:07:29
The old champions.

00:40:08:09 –> 00:40:23:04
Yeah. Even, even old Hondas that I just don’t use a lot that I’m just, they’re more for emergency. These things weigh a guy down. Yeah. You know, the whole Ben Lily story of just stuff weighs you down, you know what I mean? And you get tired of it. You see a bird fly and you just chase after a bird and never go back home.

00:40:23:14 –> 00:40:26:15
That’s why you just need to simplify your life. Grab a beverages.

00:40:26:16 –> 00:40:27:23
You guys don’t know. I don’t dunno that story.

00:40:27:28 –> 00:40:33:03
Google, Ben, Lily. Okay. Okay. Is this a thing? Lived with the hound dogs and yada yada yada. This Google

00:40:33:03 –> 00:40:34:06
That. Is it a song or a poem?

00:40:34:10 –> 00:40:35:27
No, no. This is a a,

00:40:36:00 –> 00:40:36:04
A

00:40:36:04 –> 00:40:40:18
Dude. You just simplify your life. Drink lemon juice, cayenne, and maybe syrup and just simplify

00:40:40:28 –> 00:40:41:21
Cultural, just

00:40:41:25 –> 00:40:54:10
Simplify your life. But I look at all these little engines hanging around like all the leaf blowers or whatever you have in life. And it just like, you gotta keep that fuel fresh and it wears you out. Just thinking about it. I’m just gonna say,

00:40:54:18 –> 00:40:55:29
Oh, this guy is interesting.

00:40:56:03 –> 00:40:57:24
No, go ahead. I mean, dude, he’s got a beard.

00:40:57:27 –> 00:40:59:16
Go ahead down to his belly. Read

00:40:59:16 –> 00:41:02:09
About it. Hurry. Known for his incredible skills. Where did

00:41:02:15 –> 00:41:03:25
Bears Mountain? Jason? Dude,

00:41:03:25 –> 00:41:04:15
They have a book.

00:41:04:21 –> 00:41:05:21
Okay. Did

00:41:05:21 –> 00:41:06:13
You read it? Okay, this is,

00:41:06:22 –> 00:41:07:16
Do I ever read a book?

00:41:07:17 –> 00:41:10:25
Well I, that’s why I’m asking. I don’t think you do. So how did you learn about this guy?

00:41:11:04 –> 00:41:14:29
I just read the preface. I don’t know. Okay. I just know everybody knows Ben Lilly.

00:41:15:03 –> 00:41:15:10
I don’t,

00:41:15:11 –> 00:41:19:25
I love this. He’s famous for hunting down large numbers of grizzly cougar Black bears.

00:41:19:25 –> 00:41:21:11
Dude, he’s no joke. I mean, large

00:41:21:11 –> 00:41:21:25
Numbers.

00:41:22:14 –> 00:41:37:01
One day, one day he’s chilling out and pretty soon a bird comes, flies in and he’s like, falls the bird and never went back. That’s awesome. I mean, he gives lives out in the wild. I mean, dude, if you’re a boy, if you Huck Finn has nothing on Ben Lily.

00:41:37:18 –> 00:41:37:27
Yeah.

00:41:38:15 –> 00:41:39:03
Tom Sawyer.

00:41:39:03 –> 00:41:40:27
That’s a real dude. I can’t believe I’ve never heard of

00:41:40:27 –> 00:41:46:04
Him. Oh my gosh. Anyway, all right. I’m just saying where we at reading

00:41:46:12 –> 00:41:47:07
Material for you. Go ahead read

00:41:47:24 –> 00:41:51:04
If you like to read. I, yeah, I don’t like to read audio

00:41:51:09 –> 00:41:51:19
Books.

00:41:52:23 –> 00:41:54:24
I do the audio thing a little bit, that’s for sure.

00:41:55:03 –> 00:41:55:12
Yeah.

00:41:55:18 –> 00:42:01:07
There’s certain things you gotta read Right. Just to keep up. Right. But anyway. Yep. Alright, so where are we at now?

00:42:02:02 –> 00:42:04:07
Well, I don’t know what else Hunt. So we got hunt.

00:42:04:28 –> 00:42:33:27
We also have the hunts that we post. Evan keeps those posted that. Yeah, if you’re looking for something this year we’ve also got the opportunity set tag section coming out. There’s, you know, we had some over the counter Utah tags come out. You can buy an archery over the counter General Elk tag. We’re not saying it’s amazing. Some people would have you think that you’re gonna kill giants? You’re, you’re not necessarily, but it does give you an opportunity to go to the Hills and Hunt General, general season architect here in Utah. Yeah. What else we got, bro, that would be off the cuff.

00:42:34:06 –> 00:43:43:11
Well, so I just wanted to remind everybody, like sometimes we forget like, hey, you know, what does a membership here at Epic Outdoors do for you? And now is the time that you can, you know, really take advantage of one of our big benefits, which is you draw a tag and you can call in and get, you know, names and numbers of members who have been there, hunted that unit in the past. And so, I mean, it goes a long ways to maximizing the tag. Totally worth the membership price. Speaking of unit 15, when I hunted it a few years ago, I, I called and I, I think the first three guys I called like totally loaded me up with, with pins gave me, you know, waters everything. Like I, I was way farther ahead with their information. Yeah, yeah. It was nuts. And sometimes you don’t, you know, they, they don’t give you a lot, but sometimes it’s a tag that they’re not gonna hunt again or they’re, you know, it’s gonna be a rare draw and so they’re really free with information and helping you. So anyway. That’s good point. It is just make the most outta your tag. And I think being a member of Epic Outdoors that can, can help you a ton on that. Great

00:43:43:11 –> 00:44:01:19
Point. Yeah. If you haven’t done it already with the tag you have drawn especially, well it doesn’t matter how long ago in the spring it was, so if it was just in June here, give Wendy or Janet a call, they can put you down, email it out to you. You’ll go on that list yourself for being able to, you know, help people out in the future. That’s great resource.

00:44:01:26 –> 00:44:20:23
You know what I’ll say what I’ve learned recently, well, okay, so what I’ve always known, but what I’ve really come to appreciate is when times get hard in hunting, like say mul deer times, right. Having tough times. Right. You think outside the box, like where is there not commercialized hunting pressure where, you know what I mean? Yeah. Whereas, whereas

00:44:21:06 –> 00:44:30:24
Where could, could I get the same experience I’ve had in the past? Yes. Somehow by accident. Yeah. Or by planning. Yeah. Or just where can I put myself

00:44:30:24 –> 00:45:00:00
In in and it forces you to like this oh five one landlord tag or it forces you to do something that’s easier to draw because it’s been less desired in the past. Yeah. And you end up learning cool stuff. I, there’s some places say Deere 30 7:00 AM B in Arizona or some other areas that we’ve talked about Bronson, that wouldn’t necessarily be good at, you’d be laughed at if you said it was good, but you actually know a cute few great bucks that have come from these areas. Yeah. You know what I mean? No. So it just forces, forces you outside the box

00:45:00:03 –> 00:45:16:16
A little bit. Depending on your point situation, being a realist, you have to look at it that way a little bit in places like in Arizona that isn’t super deep in elite deer units. They have some elite ones but they’re not deep. Right. They’re not deep. Like even maybe Nevada, I can’t even call Colorado.

00:45:17:01 –> 00:45:19:00
So you, you got your, your favorite six but

00:45:19:15 –> 00:45:29:05
Units and beyond that then it’s a lot of mediocre to average. Right. Throughout the state. And, but you do have the cos option there to use your points there. But that’s what you’re saying. You’ve gotta,

00:45:30:04 –> 00:45:30:25
You start thinking,

00:45:30:28 –> 00:45:36:22
You can’t just put in for the swing, for the fence stuff your whole life and think you’re gonna hunt. Have those experiences ’cause

00:45:36:22 –> 00:46:11:29
Happen now. Now with this not gonna happen with the membership of 150 bucks be worth it just to say, well Kay BA’s the best in Arizona or Chi ba trip. You know what I mean? No, no. Everybody knows that it’s been that way for four decades. Yeah. Right. Five decades or whatever, you know. But it’s these new places and we’re constantly learning. And there’s places in Colorado that I wish I, sometimes I would think, I wish I had the guts to waste a year on ’em. But I’m looking at my years saying I don’t know how many left I, many I have left mostly ’cause I do dumb things. But you know, but we’re also getting older and so you’re like, well okay, you have to do, I want to use my Colorado year

00:46:12:04 –> 00:46:18:19
And you don’t want to on this and you don’t Yeah. You don’t wanna sit home. Right. That’s worse than going and underachieving.

00:46:19:09 –> 00:46:24:00
So there’s a couple of guys that call in and we’re like, gimme those weird places that you’re thinking

00:46:24:00 –> 00:46:25:12
Thinking about, but you haven’t there to do,

00:46:25:13 –> 00:46:59:19
You won’t do. And, and then I’ll go and learn it and report back. And so I’ve done that. Yeah, it’s been interesting. It’s been fun. Like, you know what, I think you should try this. I’ve heard this and this and this. And they’re like, okay, I’ll give it a try. But then, you know, yeah. The return for that is, I mean, you gotta be honest. Me, come back and come back and tell me how it went. You know what I mean? I mean, that’s part of it, right. And so anyway, it silence. Kinda like you, John, there’s kill a giant, give you some unexp. I really wanna know. Yeah, yeah. You know, everything you learned with your gas money and strip stripes on the side of your truck,

00:47:00:19 –> 00:47:01:12
I’m happy to give you all,

00:47:01:12 –> 00:47:42:29
All that tires and all the $14,000 worth of scouting you’ve done. But anyway, pretty, pretty fun stuff. But here, yeah, here at Epic, 150 bucks, it’s chicken feed anymore, and you’ve got research, online research tools would give you all the drawing ons, kill percentages, best units, you know, even, you know, part part of that obviously is in our e-magazine version, but then also drawing odds for all units in some of these states. All species, all big game species. Anyway, in, in the states you can find it easily tons of, you know, mapping and other things. There’s just a, there’s a plethora of stuff on there. And of course you, you can probably make that money back on one good legit purchase Yeah. At our store. Yep.

00:47:43:04 –> 00:48:01:11
And, or in some cases, not that we talk people outta stuff as a, as a, you know, calm and occurrence, but there’s sometimes we can save you that, that and hundreds more by not going down a hole that we’ve heard from too many people is not a hole. You want to go down a certain place. Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:01:11 –> 00:48:40:03
I like it. You know, Bronson put young spot a little bit, so we’ve talked about in tougher years, you go hunt antelope, sheep, goats, moose stuff, deer, stags, whatever. Right? And so you’re doing that and now I’m looking at you thinking you’re amazingly brilliant because I’m, I’m so stuck on mule deer or whatever that I can’t get out of that mode. And so I’m sp my spendable income for the hunting season is going towards stuff that I’m still trying to wish and find and doesn’t really exist. And you’ve got bigger, better, smarter plans. What are those?

00:48:40:06 –> 00:48:47:24
Well, I don’t know about smarter, but yeah, I got, I got sucked in again, I guess we just, it’s as simple as I can put,

00:48:48:03 –> 00:48:50:07
I love spending other people’s money

00:48:50:18 –> 00:48:53:05
And I had to sell, I had to sell landowner

00:48:53:05 –> 00:48:54:27
Tags, Dick. I know, I know. I love it.

00:48:55:08 –> 00:49:21:03
The deer. You know, I’m not the reason why I joke and say I’m playing a lot of golf right now and scouting a little. It’s my Utah general, and I’m not in Nevada. Like I know I have been the last two years Yeah. Crushing the place. And I’m, and I know exactly everything that’s going on and I have a little bit of time. But yeah, I got suckered in and I say that in tongue in cheek of course, because it’s not too hard to twist my arm to get me interested in a sheep hunt, but yeah.

00:49:21:15 –> 00:49:22:16
Hit the shiny lure.

00:49:22:20 –> 00:49:23:29
Yeah, I hit it, I hit it.

00:49:23:29 –> 00:49:26:05
Hard shape, shape of a sheep.

00:49:26:08 –> 00:49:36:27
Not very long ago. It was only why month or six weeks ago, I guess, whatever. So yeah, I’m, I’m down to short timer. That’s part of the reason I’m not doing this cleanse. Cleanse is a soft word for it, but we’re not, it’s

00:49:36:27 –> 00:49:38:11
A purge. It’s of epic

00:49:38:29 –> 00:49:52:28
Proportions. I’m not doing that when I’m, I’m already leaning out from training and I don’t need to go into that frail and week. Yeah, yeah. I’m going up on a big boy hunt and I need, I don’t, I need a little grease on me, you know, that’s

00:49:52:28 –> 00:49:56:01
It. Well, it’s a good time with tie. So you’re going up, we’re gonna be stone sheep

00:49:56:01 –> 00:50:20:25
On He is home. We’re gonna go up there and hunt, hunt fan and sheep and pretty awesome. See what we can bring home. So I’m kind of been, kind of been planning, had it in the back of my mind for a few years, two, three years, obviously. So did a sheep hunt with him? Oh three what? Yeah. Three years ago and yeah, you know, he’s been gone for a couple years, so Yeah, I dunno. Just kind of happened. I didn’t, again, this was a spur of the moment Bill, but opportunity filling my lab

00:50:20:28 –> 00:50:23:11
And him, meaning Ty did a sheep out with Ty.

00:50:23:12 –> 00:50:24:22
Yeah. Did one with Ty and

00:50:24:22 –> 00:50:25:07
So now, now

00:50:25:11 –> 00:50:27:12
Three years ago and back, now he’s back.

00:50:27:20 –> 00:50:27:27
Yes,

00:50:28:03 –> 00:50:33:12
Yes. It’s time. You know, it elevates it, frankly. I mean, I I don’t, you do, you do another

00:50:33:12 –> 00:50:35:22
Sheep pump for you do things with the kids, you would never Yeah.

00:50:36:03 –> 00:50:36:10
So

00:50:36:15 –> 00:50:41:29
It’s easy to justify about anything for kids. Yeah, it is. Or with kids or memories or whatevers

00:50:41:29 –> 00:50:44:04
Also easier to argue it with your wife.

00:50:44:08 –> 00:50:44:25
There’s nothing,

00:50:44:28 –> 00:50:47:17
You know, this, I, I’m spending time with the kids, you know,

00:50:48:08 –> 00:50:49:19
If let’s just say this, Becky, Becky,

00:50:49:28 –> 00:50:54:24
Becky kicks in money for the trip. Oh yeah. How much more do you need? Yeah,

00:50:54:24 –> 00:51:16:01
Exactly. There go if Ashley, Sean, Justin Colton want anything and it kind of goes in along with what I want. Yeah. I mean happen. It’s not even a sale. It’s not, I’ll be like, Sean will be like, Hey dad, let’s go do this. And I’m like, oh, you probably ought to run it by your mom if you can get it figured out. Hey mom, we’re gonna go do this really when you’re gonna be back. You know? I mean, it’s awesome. Yeah,

00:51:16:13 –> 00:51:18:01
Yeah. It is. And, and like

00:51:18:09 –> 00:51:19:29
Hearts are in the right place. Yeah. Yeah.

00:51:20:02 –> 00:51:35:28
It’s fun. It’s about good times, good memories. I’ve got, you know, Jason, John and I, we Chris, all Chris at 50. So, you know, sheet punts and things like that or you know, I don’t need to do any more thin horn hunts myself necessarily, but, but

00:51:35:28 –> 00:51:37:23
If you’re gonna do one with Ty, then now’s the time

00:51:38:03 –> 00:51:39:27
Better now than 10 years from now. Yeah.

00:51:40:08 –> 00:51:46:29
And you got me all warm and fuzzy. So if, if you’re debating whether to have a kid or not, man, get it coming. What? Yeah. What

00:51:46:29 –> 00:51:49:00
You’re talking about. People put kids, I’m kids out on the

00:51:49:00 –> 00:51:53:19
Ground talking about people that Yeah. If you’re like your like, I’m gonna wait forever. There’s nothing better. No

00:51:53:21 –> 00:51:54:15
Better, better than

00:51:54:22 –> 00:51:56:19
Hit ’em out on the ground. Yeah. Get ’em growing.

00:51:57:09 –> 00:52:01:05
I got texts from Ty this morning. He was tree by his sheep dogs on the mountain this morning.

00:52:01:07 –> 00:52:02:00
Was he? Oh dude,

00:52:02:00 –> 00:52:10:21
They’re no joke. I gave, I gave him a pin in the dark last time. I’m falling asleep because I’m going, I give him pins. He drove right to opened his door and he’s in the middle of her of sheep in the pitch black. Oh

00:52:10:21 –> 00:52:11:06
Yeah. Oh

00:52:11:06 –> 00:52:20:04
Yeah. And he gets, his stuff starts hiking and then the dogs start, start coming and they’re no joke. They’re like those, you know, and a half and foot

00:52:20:04 –> 00:52:20:27
Four footers. No

00:52:20:27 –> 00:52:28:05
Joke. And, and I, I, he stuck with it and outran ’em and got, got free. He did. Yeah. Got away from ’em. Got away from the

00:52:28:05 –> 00:52:32:13
Sheep. I’ve often wondered like, do you ever have to dump one? Like you never want to do that. No, but,

00:52:32:22 –> 00:52:40:12
But I, if it was me and that I would probably just said, I’m going to a different spot. I’m getting back in my truck and I’m moving. But I didn’t give him a plan B. This is

00:52:40:17 –> 00:52:46:06
Spot was he, was he by himself? All by himself. Oh geez. He’s a man. Those dogs scare anyway, then he

00:52:46:06 –> 00:52:55:04
Gets up down in the glassy knob and kicks a hornet’s nest and has a swarm of them falling him for 45 minutes. He did? Yeah. Right at the, right at the exact spot I told him to sit. Oh

00:52:55:09 –> 00:52:56:23
My god, does I see anything?

00:52:57:12 –> 00:52:59:01
I, nothing, nothing report.

00:52:59:06 –> 00:52:59:19
Oh, okay.

00:52:59:26 –> 00:53:01:19
He saw some deer, but nothing. Alright.

00:53:02:02 –> 00:53:05:06
Yep. Nothing was, but anyway, 35 inches worth of shanks and nothing,

00:53:05:18 –> 00:53:09:28
A lot of big wide shanks. You don’t know what they’re gonna turn out to be, but he said they were actually tipping down. Come

00:53:09:28 –> 00:53:10:03
On.

00:53:12:22 –> 00:53:12:25
I

00:53:12:25 –> 00:53:13:07
Just was

00:53:13:07 –> 00:53:14:04
Waiting for Jason

00:53:14:09 –> 00:53:14:27
To lose it.

00:53:17:15 –> 00:53:19:11
I kinda like turned so big.

00:53:19:18 –> 00:53:21:22
I don’t think he said, I don’t know how you’d hold it. Take a

00:53:21:22 –> 00:53:24:24
Picture of that marbling and little bumps and pearl bruises. The

00:53:24:24 –> 00:53:47:17
Pearls quiet talks about. No, just kidding. It’s fun times hunting with your kids and family. Yep. You know, I grew up hunting with my dad and brother and you know, just nice to have kids now that, that like to do that with, they don’t have to just ’cause you hunt doesn’t mean your kids like to hunt. But you know, most of us are lucky here us three to have our kids like to do that and nothing better. So yeah, that’s coming up here real quick.

00:53:47:23 –> 00:54:11:17
Well somewhat of a light podcast today, but does give you a basic overview of what we’ve got going on this summer. We’ve got a magazine gonna come out here shortly. If you need help on finding anything, let us know. Some people have open schedules, some people wanna fill it just a little bit more. If you have something you, you can’t utilize and you’re looking for advice, let us know. I’ve talked to guys about turning tags back, which tags to turn back, things like

00:54:11:17 –> 00:54:17:15
That. Yeah. ’cause sometimes they have happens two pretty comparable tags and they can only do one their exact same season. They

00:54:17:15 –> 00:55:37:23
Talk to a guy about Colorado and Arizona and you know, yeah. Point guarded. But Colorado, you can get your money back depending you’d want your money back or your points if you got it in the second drawer, who knows? Whatever. There’s just options. So anyway, that’s what we’re here for. 4 3 5 2 6 3 0 South South Sound. 4 3 5 2 6 3 is zero South, south sound. Epic outdoors.com Hit us up and yeah, next time John, let’s, let’s talk about, let’s, let’s call, let’s have archery season’s beginning. Yeah. Okay. Here shortly. Yeah. Generally August 10, sometimes it’s August one if it’s antelope and things like that. Let’s, let’s talk to a couple of, let’s have some archery stories. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So we’re gonna have some archery stories lined up with some dudes that hit it hard and kill gray box, great bulls, whatever it is. Maybe we’ll do a variety of archery and then move into muzzle. Move into rifle. I don’t know. Yeah, kind of mix it up a little bit. We’re gonna have weekly podcasts obviously, and we’ll kind of keep you posted on our stuff too. If you are looking for a, another long range, range option that’s somewhat out of the box. Weatherby guns be Thompson long range. He’s got a system. He introduced me to long range rifle hunting back in the day. He basically laughed at me when I had to walk one in on one of my big ones. And it’s embarrassing to talk about now because

00:55:38:01 –> 00:55:41:04
It’s a chip shock. We were all just holding over. We only had a, it

00:55:41:04 –> 00:56:08:27
Was four, like four 60 yards. I had to walk it in. How, come on. I mean, you can, you can kill a squirrel right now at four 60 yards. So anyway, Mark Thompson and Scotty Thompson, some of the best of the best to ever [email protected]. Very affordable way to get in. They use Lupo optics. You’ve got the 6 5 300 weatherby mag. They’re a fan of 2 57. Obviously. I’ve had one of their setups and the 2 57 and the 33 78 was kind of their Oh

00:56:08:27 –> 00:56:13:15
Yeah, those, those the first two that they Yeah. Started on. They’re awesome. That two 50 seven’s awesome.

00:56:13:21 –> 00:56:22:04
It is. But, and when you shoot it and it, anyway kind of 33 78, my heart, I killed chief. Well the biggest deer I’ve ever killed with that gun.

00:56:22:06 –> 00:56:34:10
Wow. Well, not a deer that’s a gun to kill everything. The 2 57 is more of a, it’s antelope, sheep and maybe, maybe deer, but antelope sheep. But it’s a fun shooting long range. Oh fast, no recoil and

00:56:34:17 –> 00:56:40:13
110 grainer. Yeah. I mean it’s, it’s fun. It makes me want one right now. Again, I I sold that one, but I mean,

00:56:40:18 –> 00:56:46:09
Find one of your kids. Hey, find one of your kids. Not you think might not want to talk. Bring it up to Janet’s. I’ll bet you can get it. It’s

00:56:46:09 –> 00:56:48:22
Food storage. Guaranteed. Ashley needs this. That’s right.

00:56:48:26 –> 00:56:49:11
It’s a great

00:56:49:12 –> 00:56:50:16
Gun. She does actually. She’s

00:56:50:16 –> 00:56:51:28
Got a birthday, isn’t she’s her birthday.

00:56:52:14 –> 00:56:53:27
When, when don’t they have birthdays?

00:56:53:27 –> 00:56:54:18
She problem is she, you

00:56:54:18 –> 00:56:56:03
Can just buy anything. She listens

00:56:56:03 –> 00:56:59:15
To this podcast. The problem, we can’t talk about it and keep it a secret.

00:57:00:00 –> 00:57:00:04
I

00:57:00:04 –> 00:57:03:03
Mean, so if you’re listening to Ashley, it’s a no go.

00:57:04:07 –> 00:57:04:22
It’s no

00:57:04:22 –> 00:57:05:29
Go. So anyway,

00:57:06:03 –> 00:57:07:15
But one of the nice things just

00:57:07:16 –> 00:57:09:27
Out the door with the scope, you’re talking $4,400

00:57:10:21 –> 00:57:12:04
With the course usually.

00:57:12:04 –> 00:57:28:00
Yeah. Yep. And that’s what kind of makes them different is you’re not, you don’t have to, you know, sync up your rangefinder with your, with your scope and dial or anything. It’s just a simple yardage. You hold on the yardage. If it’s 400 yards, you hold on the line and you shoot. So

00:57:28:04 –> 00:57:45:17
It is, that’s what I like about sim simplicity and that’s what he always touted in the heat of battle. You need simplicity. And it’s true. He taught me a lot about that. To make sure the gear is simple. Sometimes we can get carried away with, well I’m at 5,000 feet but now I’m at seven. What’s the difference? Gonna be the width of a field. Miles.

00:57:45:27 –> 00:57:46:11
That’s right.

00:57:46:11 –> 00:58:23:25
Killer. 800 yards. Okay. So don’t worry about it. And that was his point. Anyway, 1-800-584-FOUR 0 7 9 thompson long range.com. Of course they’re on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter. Twitter at t. Long range. YouTube, of course there’s a bit. Lily, I don’t even know how to tell you that. Yeah, Instagram’s the same. Thompson Long Range, Facebook, Thompson, long Range have at it. Good dudes. Scotty and Mark. Incredible hunters themselves. They, they’re in the field doing it. Good dudes. That’s the one thing I think that could separate them versus other people. Yeah. I mean they’re they’re doing it. They’re doing

00:58:23:28 –> 00:58:24:05
It.

00:58:24:05 –> 00:58:27:03
That’s, well they perfected it ’cause they are hunters. Yeah. Yeah.

00:58:27:06 –> 00:58:37:10
They’re killing coyotes. Well over a thousand yards. Yep. Awesome. I know for a fact I, Clint watched them, you know, it was kind of fun. Kind of fun. Anyway, good people.

00:58:38:05 –> 00:58:41:18
Okay, is that it? Anything else to add? Or we can be a wrap.

00:58:41:25 –> 00:58:42:19
We are good.

00:58:42:22 –> 00:58:43:03
We’re

00:58:43:03 –> 00:58:46:27
Good. You guys are probably due for another concoction. Get get, get a mixture going

00:58:46:27 –> 00:58:49:12
For day. We’ll call you guys. Gr grease mates. Adam, are

00:58:49:13 –> 00:58:50:17
You gotta a tournament this week?

00:58:51:13 –> 00:58:52:16
Oh yeah, actually I do. You playing

00:58:52:17 –> 00:58:53:03
A golf tournament?

00:58:53:11 –> 00:59:04:24
I do actually. Yep. The Utah Wall Sheet Foundation has their, I think it’s their first annual, but it’s their, like their summer social and they’re doing a golf tournament for Man Scramble Friday. So we’ll see how that goes.

00:59:05:04 –> 00:59:06:28
So do you have a team? How does that work bro?

00:59:06:28 –> 00:59:08:01
And outfitting bro and

00:59:08:01 –> 00:59:10:13
Outfit team bought a, a team. All right. Bring

00:59:10:13 –> 00:59:14:28
Home the trophy for us. Ty are going up and Kurt Kurt’s gonna play with me. Oh,

00:59:15:00 –> 00:59:15:27
Sweet. Yeah,

00:59:16:00 –> 00:59:16:06
So

00:59:16:18 –> 00:59:18:18
I love it. Yeah, I think it’s great. So

00:59:19:01 –> 00:59:20:03
Ed, ed North will be fun.

00:59:20:03 –> 00:59:21:06
It could get dicey.

00:59:21:15 –> 00:59:22:11
What does that mean?

00:59:22:17 –> 00:59:24:27
Well, I mean, who’s gonna play those? All the outfitters?

00:59:26:14 –> 00:59:26:23
Well,

00:59:27:03 –> 00:59:31:04
All the Sheep Outfitters. I know they’re gonna be Fal some smack. I don’t know.

00:59:31:25 –> 00:59:42:19
No, stay in our lane. You’re with the foursome and you’re only with your team as you play. So Yeah, it can’t, can’t get too, can’t get too, get two carried away. It’s all for fun. Raise some money for sheep and raise money.

00:59:42:19 –> 00:59:46:17
Have for she. That’ll be fun. Like it all. Everybody have a great scouting weekend. Weekend.

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Check out their brand new line of trail cameras, including the Revolver 360 degree [email protected]. Epic Outdoors is an official stealth cam dealer. Call us to order yours today at (435) 263-0777. Phone scope changed the game with their Digi scoping innovations and have remained the top phone to optic adapter on the market. Check out the incredible new Carbon Pro phone scope [email protected]. P-H-O-N-E-S-K-O-P e.com. Outdoor Edge is the knife that we all use here at Epic Outdoors. Whether it’s a replaceable blade or fixed blade, you will not be disappointed with your outdoor edge knife. Head over to outdoor edge.com and check out their brand new razor VX knife today. Epic Outdoors is proud to be an official Zeiss dealer and optics partner. When it comes to top tier quality. Zeis has been a leader in the industry for generations. If you are in the market for new optics, give us a call for unbelievable deals on Zeiss products.

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Giving you the highest quality and durability out there without breaking the bank is what makes Zeiss so good. Check out our website, epic optics.com or call us at (435) 263-0777 to find out which Zes Optic is perfect for you. Epic Outdoors is now an official CVA muzzle loader dealer. If you are in the market for a new muzzle loader, our staff can go over the different options that you should consider. CVA muzzle loaders are the go-to muzzle loader for Epic Outdoors and Crew. We’ve definitely got our favorite setups for Western big game hunting in stock. Call us today at (435) 263-0777 to find out which CVA is perfect for your next hunt.