In this episode the crew sits down with Mike McLean of Apex Next Evolution to talk about the importance of your health as a hunter. Their products are a natural alternative to popular sports supplements that give you energy, hydration and recovery, safely and effectively. We also discuss the importance of public land. A conversation sparked by the recently proposed sale of public land in Utah.
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Hey everybody. Jason Carter. Adam Bronson, John Peterson. Of course. We got Wyatt in here. How are you, Wyatt? I’m doing well. Logan Logan’s at the keyboard. That’s kind of nice. How you doing,
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Logan? I’m doing good.
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Yeah. I heard you had a rough weekend.
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I, I had a long weekend. Yeah. My hands will never be the same. Yeah.
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Well, you know when you work them Yeah. They kind of get sore.
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Really? Yeah, they do. Is that what hard work feels like?
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Well, hard labor, hard
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Physical labor. Might be the first day in my life I’ve ever experienced that. Yeah.
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I heard you’re a pretty good motorbike rider, right? Dirt
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Bike. I, I am. I probably went on the equivalent of like a double black diamond and I’m more of like a blues guy if you’re any skiers or snowboarders out there. So,
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So we took a new dirt bike and ruined it. Is that what you did?
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Yes. Yep. Had to pop a couple plastics back on my knees and look like I’ve been through it, so, yeah. But it was good. It was fun. Learn some new country, man.
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You’re a
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Man. I win a boy and I came back a band.
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That’s awesome. All right. I like it. All right. Okay. Well, we’re glad you’re here with us, Logan. Yeah, it’s
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Good to be back.
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Yeah. All right, so if you were to sell this bike on the open market, what’s it worth today?
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Oh, after all the experience it’s had, probably double at least what stories you could tell you’ve
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Had it 60 days, right?
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Probably not even. You’ve had it 60 days and went through two grand in value. Anyway, we’re proud of you, Logan. That’s awesome. That’s what scouting’s all about, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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Getting dirty.
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All right. Well, Bronson, here we are. We’re getting ready for all the hunts. We’ve been out scouting, running cameras like crazy, running low on sleep, low on energy, which now I’m sitting here staring at a bunch of it. We got Apex energy drinks and I want to call ’em energy drinks more, probably more like Was hydration.
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Yeah.
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Healthy drinks. And Mike’s here from Apex and he’s gonna get mad at me because I’m calling him an energy drink. And they do give you energy, but maybe they’re not so bad, like energy drinks, you know what I mean?
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Well, and they do have options that don’t have caffeine or whatever else. So if you’re not in the mood for pick me up, you just wanna chill, relax, and chill.
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All I know is I like to drink the stuff that has the wolf track. Well, no, they just, you can’t pronounce ’em. So, you know, it’s as good as a prenatal vitamin. That’s
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What we say.
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It grows hair and fingernails, you know what I mean? And it makes you feel good. Yeah. And anything that makes you feel as good as some of these drinks that I drink out of a can and other places can’t be that bad for you. But I’m hearing they are. John, our wives are telling us they’re bad. Of course. They lie. They lie all the time. Well, just for some background. So Jason’s wife and my wife, they’re, they were nurses and so, you know, they’re a little bit focused on healthy. Adam’s wife’s healthy, but she drinks ’em too, which, yeah. How can you hate, how hate on, how can you hate on a lady that drinks energy drinks?
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I just won a year without
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One. Did. Yeah. I’m impressed. Hey, congratulations. Well,
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It started
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From, okay, okay.
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You didn’t stop.
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Colter was
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V eight drinks. I mean, yeah, there’s some, some of those, but I mean, I haven’t had a monster literally
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Year, Sandy, you stopped in cold Turkey is haven’t had one slight stretch. But anyway,
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Yeah, I’ve had a Mountain Dew too. I mean, so
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Does, so is Wyatt,
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Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Wyatt fell off that wagon a couple. Well,
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I mean, somehow when he’s calling, crawling to his truck after what? Kidney stones? Kidney
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Stones, yeah.
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Wow.
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Yeah. Crawled to his truck and then he swore off of ’em. I don’t know how that worked. He did actually, that
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Was off water. You were drinking water long before that
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Water. Yeah, that’s why we teased him. We had, we drank them and we, we, we accused monsters of dissolving any kidney storms we might have. They’re that. And Wyatt didn’t. He was just drinking water and it got, so I caught
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Up with me. It’s a natural to think that w water’s bad for you. It’s a natural, you know, I have no water at all. I’ve never had a kidney stone. What, what do you have to say about that? I
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Got Wyatt. No reply to that. Dr. Wyatt. Yeah. I’ll tell you. You don’t want one? Yeah,
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I’ve had one in,
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Did you really have to crawl all the way back to your
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Truck? Oh, oh, from my house? Yeah. Well, to my truck, to the er. It was a,
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My, when it came out, he heard it ting on the, on the porcelain.
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Did you really? Like a
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Week later. Yeah.
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I
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Thought that was like wives tail stuff.
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No, no,
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No. I’ve heard it’s, I’ve heard it’s, no, it was painful. Worse than a man cold, that’s for sure.
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Knock on wood, I don’t want to deal with that.
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No. Keep doing whatever you’re doing, which is probably Apex, so. All right. So, so Mike, how are you?
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I’m doing great.
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Hey, welcome here to the Epic Outdoors Podcast. I
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Appreciate it. Thank you.
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Wanted to talk a little bit about what you’ve got going on. I know you’re very familiar. Great friends with Clay Hill. Yep. Over in Colorado. We know Clay deal with him. Of course. He’s killing everything big in the state. Yeah. Anything that walks he knows about. Yep. And so, anyway, good friend of ours and a great outfitter. But then he’s also diving into this company or help developing this company. Yep. I don’t know the whole situation, but I’m sure you’ll help us with that. Sure. And then you have a great relationship with Hickey, him. You also know Wyatt from way back in the day. And so we spend a little
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Time together.
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There’s quite an extensive, you know, hunting history that leads us up to this product of Apex, which, you know, hunters and trappers and anglers and everybody else is gonna want to have. And so anyway, maybe let’s start with that. We’ll just take it to wherever you want it. Yeah, you bet. You can start us off
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Att Well, first and foremost, I just want to say thank you to all of you guys. And John, thank you for being persistent and, and staying with us and getting, making this happen. So we’re super excited. This is a project that started in earnest about three years ago, but it started conceptually when I went over to hunt with Clay Hill the very first time. And I think this was back in 2016 or 2017, I can’t remember, but we were, at that point in time, I had been hunting for myself. You know, I used to get a lot of the man tags. I used to hunt elk
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Conservation
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Tags. Yeah. The conservation tags and stuff. And I think I had that seven years in a row on the man archery tag. And I was out crazy. And then in 16, the conservation tag started to go outside of my, my budget. And so I didn’t do that. And that’s how I met Wyatt. That same year, I ended up going down and hunting in Monticello with Doyle and those guys. And that same year I went out with Clay to hunt deer. And that’s where this all really started. It was Clay was drinking another company’s brand when we were driving around in his truck. And I was busting his chops about, you know, drinking product. That was what I would consider subpar and my back.
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And why, maybe why. Yeah. How did you know? Tell us a little bit about Yeah, your background TA little bit. So you, you kind of know. You bet. Yeah. What you’re talking about. Well,
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I’m originally from Idaho and I came to Utah and to go to school up at the U Okay. And when I graduated the economy back home wasn’t all that great. And so the first company that gave me a job offer was a company called New Skin, giant Direct Sales Company. And ironically, I started in their information systems, you know, department. And it was kind of an interesting deal. They were all about lotions and potions. You were talking a little minute ago about prenatal. They’re one of their, one of their number one products is prenatal, you
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Know, lot of Asian, is it Asian markets, if
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I remember right. Yeah. They were big in, in Japan, Asia and, and Korea and some other markets. But anyways, that’s where I kind of got my start. And then I left there in 2005 and I went to Young Living and I was there for a long, long time. You know, everybody now knows about essential oils, but when I went there, no one, there was no doTERRA, there was no these o other companies. And so I had the opportunity to do a little bit of everything at that company as we went through the growth, you know, curve, everything from operations to product management, training, education, sales and marketing. I, I had the opportunity to do quite a bit and it was awesome. So that’s kind of where my background came from. And I became really super passionate about natural wellness. I got really heavy when I was working at Young Living, you know, a former athlete used to play football and you know, baseball and all that stuff.
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And next thing I know, I was 250 pounds with a 40 inch waist and it was really starting to cut in on my hunting hikes. Yeah. Were now they hurt, laborious, you know? Yeah. And it was not fun. I didn’t enjoy it. And so that, it was about 2012 that I really started to take my personal health serious, even though I’d worked in the industry at that point for 12 or 13 years, I got really big and it, it was impacting my lifestyle. And so I cut out sodas, I stopped drinking soda. That was one of the first things I started to actually really pay attention to what we were doing in the industry. And that’s kind of my background. And then when I left in 2020, or excuse me, in 2012, I started my own deal and we blew that thing up and sold it to a company called Z International and
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Oil. Oil.
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It was essential oils and supplements as well. We had a couple of different supplements.
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Like a doTERRA type.
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Yeah. It was kind of similar. It,
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Yeah. Is that, I mean, is there truth? Does that stuff work? It does. I know a lot of people that wanna know if doTERRA works, which maybe it’s just that type of product. Does that type of product work
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Oh, a hundred percent.
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Helps you with headaches, help you got a cold. Rub this on this if you wanted this, rub this on this.
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I’m not telling my mom differently. Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, I’ll walk, we’ll walk in the houses. I mean, it’s like, whatever ails you here, here’s some oil. Exactly. Rub this on you. It’s
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A little chest and it’s this and it’s a, oh yeah. You know, there’s some,
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I got lavender on my bar, I got some lemon on my nose and I got, I, I don’t know, feel like I got a toothache coming on. So I got a tooth cleanser over here. What, what is this? What
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Is it? I’m sorry. I just have to laugh because
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It feels like there’s ev an oil for anything that there is. Well,
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And, and what most people don’t realize is that all modern day pharmacology, it starts with botany, it starts with the plants. And so all of those, you know, synthetics that we take now are originally derived from, you know, plants and then they go through and they, but you can’t patent, for example, wintergreen. Yeah. It’s full of methyl salicylate, which is what takes away our headaches, you know? So anyways, I could get into all of that kind of stuff with you guys, but
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I don’t mind. I mean, what elses you, John, that you want to know
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About? I, I just asked my wife. She, she tells me what to say. She good. Does she take she religious on that? Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. She religious on it, but I mean, she was a nurse as well. So it’s a little bit of mix, you know? Yeah. Of, of, of whatever’s good. And you know, when I drink,
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I feel like some people are overboard though. They have to recar their house to kind
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Stink so bad. Well, yeah. I mean, you can go overboard, but she’s not that. No,
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No,
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No. But I, are you
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Wearing an oil today? No. Of some
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Sort? No, she’s in Europe. John. Yeah. Yeah. She’s in Europe for a month. Yeah. But
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I mean, he would still call her and say, what should I take? Wyatt? Do you believe in this?
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I don’t
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Know. I’ve, I’ve never tried him. You ever, I really can’t say Tara, your skin. I can’t, he still in his thirties. He’s just coasting through life. He doesn’t need until you hit about 45. I haven’t quite hit 40 yet, so. That’s right. Just, just you’ll be looking for every edge you can get. Yeah. Anyway. Alright.
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Alright. Well that’s interesting stuff. Yeah, but that’s so it does work.
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It does work.
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And they do, and there’s science behind it all.
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Oh, lots of science.
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And so learning all of this is kind of your thing. And so when you’re looking at this other company’s ingredients, you’re like, why are you drinking that clay? Yeah, it’s garbage. Yeah. And that’s just because you know of the different substances they’re using. Yeah. Is that what it boils
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Down to? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. And so, and a lot of the supplements that you see out in the marketplace now, you know, there’s good, better, best in everything. And a lot of companies will put the best in the marketing. And so they looks cool. Branding’s on point, you know what I mean? Their story, their messaging is, you know, epic. No, no pun intended. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And it’s
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All about
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Marketing. But then they cut out really good ingredients, you know, and so they just use,
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Why would they do that? Because
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They’re more expensive, cheaper. Yeah. You know, like more, yeah. More
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Expensive and you can’t, and you can’t patent natural stuff. So it’s the synthetics that you’re talking about that you can Yeah.
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And it makes it whatever. Yeah. And it makes it cheaper. Like you can buy, like plant-based ingredients are always gonna be more expensive because the extract process takes longer. It’s more expensive. Synthetics that can be created in a lab, you know? So anyways, but that’s where a lot of this, you know, stemmed from. It was 25 years of working in and around the natural wellness industry and having the opportunity to be taught and trained. I spent a month in France with a homeopathic doctor over there learning about all these kind of things. Oh wow. And yeah, it was, it was cool, man. I’ve been able to travel all over the world and see all sorts of, you know, different modalities. Did
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You do that with another business that you were dealing with or whatever, and that led to this? Or how did you bridge that gap?
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Yeah, so when I was starting my own thing, I had the opportunity, I met this guy, his name’s Dr. Daniel Penwell. He, he was a, a MD in Europe and he was kind of considered the godfather of essential oils. And I know this is crazy. We’re on a hunting podcast
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And the guys are like, wait,
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Why are we talking about essential
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Oils? I’m one drink, you gotta go. But I’m good. I’m, now, I’m start, I’m looking into doTERRA and some oils and wondering what I need to buy. Throw something in there.
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Frankincense. Like that’s my go-to essentially. Yeah. Frankincense is my
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Really, if it was in the bio, it’s still good now. Big on it. Yeahh myrrh. I could take
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It or leave it. Frank. Frankincense,
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What does frankincense do?
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It’s the king of essential oils. Really? That’s like my nickname for it. It’s the king of essential oils. I mean, literally from migraines to aches and pains and the body to, you know, I words that I can’t use, you know, on air, like starts with a C and you know, and a lot of people, you know, struggle with, you know, stuff like that. So Yeah. But you can’t make, ’cause it’s a product claim, so I can’t do that. But frankincense is awesome. Like, it, it works. Skin issues. Yeah.
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Inflammation,
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Doesn’t it? Inflammation, yeah. Yeah. You name it. It’s, it’s a powerful thing. Wow. But anyways, I, I spent a month over in, in Valance, France with Dr. Penwell. And that’s a, that’s where a lot of my journey really, really into the products. It was partially, you know, getting healthy myself, losing weight. You know, I’ve had a size 33 inch waist now for over 12 years. Wow. You know, going from a 40 inch waist and 250 pounds. I’ve maintained my weight about 1 95. You know, I turned 50 this year and I still get after it, you know? Yeah. And a lot of that has to do with, if we want our body to respond, it’s just like, you know, feeding it. Right. Yeah. I gotta take care of it, you know what I mean? So anyways, that’s, that’s where
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A lot of the background why doesn’t understand this. He, that was it for me last year. He’s not old enough yet. That was, that was the reason last year preparing for a sheep on
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It. It was about right now it was in June. Yep. And I’m, I am not, and, and part of it’s age, we know that, but I’m like, I am not getting Well,
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The energy drinks you crash off of. Oh.
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Like you crash that and I’m just, and I drink ’em casually. I don’t drink ’em, when I say casually, I mean repetitively, casually. Like, like a, like just a drink. I don’t drink like to stay alive, like I gotta study or drive Tonight. I just, we
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Just used drinking. I’ve been driving too much. And so
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You, so I just like, I, I just gotta, I just gotta clean up, you know, clean up for that last month of training. Yeah. And then you go on a three week sheet hunt. So by then you did a, a month and now a month, and now you’re, you’re literally, there’s nothing, I never even thought about ’em after that. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, so just kind of might as well stay off ’em. So anyway,
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Good for you, but
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Good for you. But I’m still almost 52 and Yeah, you’re always looking for something, something to
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Some new youth, you know, serum fountain of oil, oil serum, frankincense. It’s time.
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I’m gonna look it
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Up. So do you sell oils anymore?
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No. No. I still use oils, but I don’t, I don’t sell ’em. Yeah. It’s, it’s become a commodity market now. You know, it’s really, unless you’re a young living or a doTERRA kind of company. Yeah. I mean they’re the, they’re the, you know, cat’s, pajamas when it comes to those. But you can get oils now at Walmart. I mean,
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Are they good? Is there a difference? No,
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There’s, yeah, it’s the
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Same thing. There’s a difference. Same thing. So spin a little spin a nickel more. Yeah.
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Yeah. It, it’s worth it. Because like, you know, young living Ordo Terry, they’re one of those, they’re, they’re plant-based, you know, they’re good. Yeah. If you get ’em
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Instead of diluted, probably like Yeah.
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They cut ’em, they fractionate ’em, they, they put synthetics. ’cause just like, for example, methyl salicylate that you get in wintergreen that we use for aches, pains, headaches, you know, different things. That’s natural aspirin, if you will. Well you can synthesize that and, you know, put it into an essential oil and that’s cheaper that, that has the fragrance of wintergreen, but it’s not the same thing. And anything that’s natural, our body naturally knows how to break it down and assimilate it, utilize it, metabolize it, and then, you know, pass it through whether, you know, processed foods. I mean, we could talk about that all day long. Same. You know, our body, we put on tons of, we trick our body. You know, a lot of the processed foods we put on weight, we don’t understand why. Well, it’s because our body doesn’t know how to deal with a lot of those
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Chemicals just for later. And we’ll deal with it later.
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Yep. So,
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So, so you’re with, with Clay ba back to that. Oh yeah. Clay, you have a lot of this history that you built up. You’re
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Hunting with clay, you’re
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Hunting with hay or or hunting with clay and hey, you start talking about this concept maybe. Yeah. And ’cause of him drinking something else. And so then where’d it go?
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And you’re all prepped. You’re, you’re educated now, right? Yeah. Like you, you’re prepped for this.
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Yeah, yeah. I’ve got a little background in it. And so we were actually, it was a awesome buck. It buck. We ended up killing, we call him George. Perfect. Beautiful. Straight four point. That’s why we called him George, George Strait. Oh yeah. I was wonder. Yeah, George, George Strait. He is, I wish I had pictures of him. He is a absolutely gorgeous buck. My first 200 inch mule deer. And anyways, we were sitting there out in the field waiting for this buck to stand up and so we could get a shot at him. And that’s when this conversation, you know, started and it was like, Hey, clay said to me, Hey, why don’t we, could we do something for ourselves? And so that started in 16 and then every year I went back for four years in a row and hunted with him. I had one of the greatest stretches I killed four, 200 inch deer in a, in a row
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With
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Clay. With clay, yeah. With clay. He’s the best. I mean, I have nothing but wonderful things to say about Clay. He’s become one of my best friends, you know, over the last almost decade. And his kids all call me Uncle Mike. So yeah, I, I feel like that’s a pretty special thing. But anyways, for every year when I went back we would just talk a little bit more, a little bit more. Well then you guys know the guys that go hunt, you know? Yeah. And Clay’s good buddies with Lorenzo. Yeah. And they kind of started talking about possibly doing their own line of supplements or whatever. And so that got me into the lab and working with my guys and we started coming up with, you know, some product concepts and different things. Lorenzo came up in the, I think it was the fall of 22. ’cause it was when we were hunting his sheep. And you guys did a big spread on, on Clay’s sheep, if I remember right. Yeah.
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Yeah. We did story.
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Yeah. I was there. There was a 27 day hunt. I think I was there 24 to 27. Wow.
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You go. Yeah. He killed one of the last good ones in there. Oh yeah.
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In that unit. I found him. And, and I will say that on air just so that everybody knows. I found, I found, I found that ram, I spent more time in the glass for somebody else’s hunt than I ever for my own. Have your own, huh? Yeah.
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If that’s all you get on a hunt, you better get some of the accolades that iss all you get. We’re gonna give them to you. Yeah, please. Congratulations.
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I’m just tea. I’m just No,
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I’m just teasing. I think it’s good though. I think it’s awesome. I like it. It’s a testament to, I I know he was, I remember it was a grind him talking about you. Oh, it was a grind, but I didn’t know you, so, you know what I mean?
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It was a grind. It was, it was probably one of the hardest things I’ve ever done. It was the emotional roller coaster of that hunt. ’cause we’d get on,
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It wasn’t a physically hard unit, it was. No, but it was just a matter of finding that specific grind. Yep.
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Well we found him and I know what happened. It was crazy. There was another guy, there were three tags, three archery tags. There was an older gentleman probably in his sixties that had a crossbow. Not a crossbow, but a recurve. Yeah. And he wasn’t much of a threat, but there was another guy, we ended up becoming really good buddies with him. And we actually ended up helping him kill his ram. But on opening morning, he got on the ram that we called sea biscuit and he boogered him. And all those rams, the entire hunt were all hanging together. And then he disappeared. Oh my. And we did not see him for 27 days. And then we had two other rams that were shooters. You know, one we called Pretty boy and, and I can’t remember what we called the other one. But anyways, we’d get on ’em, missed shots, you know, missed stocks, you know, just baking in that place.
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It’s good to know that Clay’s just a normal hunter. He’s one of us. Oh he is. So he missed the ram. That’s just,
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Well, I don’t know if he wants me to let
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All the secret out. Let’s go back and reread the story. Okay. Let’s, let’s compare the story to the verbal to divine version. I’m just glad to know he is human. Oh, he,
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I mean, sometimes I don’t know that he’s human because Yeah. He’s a good hunter. My nickname for him is snake eyes. Man, when that guy, when you see him get dialed in. Yeah. Like he is probably one of the greatest killers I’ve ever met in my entire life. That guy. He,
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He’s dialed,
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He goes like the night he ended up getting the ram, we found him like it was one of those days where we had the number two ram pretty boy. We had a shot at him and Clay was 10 yards. And I’m in the glasses watching. He’s 10 yards. And he was on a little shelf and the ram was right below him. And another ram jumped up onto where Clay was at. And it started. Yeah. And it just blew everything up. And I mean, and that was that day we, we put some miles on and he was just discouraged. He’s like, ah, we’ve got three more days. Let’s just go back to the lodge. We’ll call it a night. And I was like, no, we’re not going back to the lodge. We’re gonna go. And I drove all the way to the north end of the unit, clear.
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We hadn’t even been up any of these roads. And I’m not kidding you, this is how this went down. It was the craziest thing. I don’t know if you’ve ever had a moment like this. I drove up, turned around, I pulled my binoculars up like this and I looked out the window and there was a spot in between two bushes about 800 yards away. And there’s a lone ram all by himself. If I had have stopped 10 yards farther, I wouldn’t have seen it if I would’ve stopped a little bit shorter. And I called Clay on the radio and we were able to get a stock on him right there. Clay got within about 60 and was about ready to let the arrow fly and the Ram winded him and took off. We hauled all the way down. And I’m not kidding you, clay ran a mile and a half straight uphill and cut this ram off. And I drove and got to another glassing spot and there were these big rollers. And he was kind of just all by himself that Ram walked out of this little draw 30 yards from Clay and he whacked him. It was one of the craziest things. And then, you know, by the time we recovered him, it was dark. And it was one of the most epic things after like, no pun intended. It was,
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It was just awesome.
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It was epic and it was persistence and it was, you know, just the grind, you know? Yeah. It was awesome. One of the greatest things I’ve ever done. Maybe on top of some of my own hunts and everything. It was just to be a part of that and with the sheep, you know, it’s a just a different, different experience. Yeah. Unique. Yeah. Unique. Beautiful Ram. Anyways. No, but clay through that, the whole thing, man. And I know I got a little sidetracked there. I get excited talking about that hunt. ’cause it was literally one of the greatest things that I’ve ever been part of. But Lorenzo was up there and at that time they were thinking about doing something. And so I had formulated a whole bunch of these, these drinks and everything at that time and, and they decided ultimately, Hey, you know, we’re gonna stay in our lane. This isn’t necessarily our our deal. And so we had all this stuff done and Clay and I just were talking and he’s like, dude, let’s just do this for ourselves. And so we did, and I don’t know if you guys know Chad Frt and Cornerstone, you know, he’s big up at the expo and everything. And anyways, and so yeah, me, clay and Chad Frt and we went
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All
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In. All in. And so, and Apex has, how long ago?
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20, 21
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Or 22? This would, we launched officially in at the Western Hunting Expo in 23.
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Okay. Wow.
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So yeah. We’re only just a little over two years old. So. Nice. Yeah.
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And how’s it going?
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It’s going good. It’s actually going really good. You know, the first little, you know, anytime you’re new, everybody, like you were talking about, everybody’s got their go-to, you know, everybody’s got a brand that they like to wear their t-shirt or their hat and, you know,
00:24:32:22 –> 00:24:37:23
Groupies. Yeah. People like to be part of a successful team one way or another. Yeah. Or a company or whatever. Yeah,
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A hundred percent. And so that first year, you know, we had pretty good adoption and then we had the kind of a sophomore slump, if you will. But this year we are, we found a, yeah, we, we we’re catching some wind in our sails right now. And you know, I excited about this opportunity, you know, to really get in front of the hunting world. Yeah. Because this is obviously one of my passions. It’s Clay’s passion, you know, this is what we love to do and support, you know, our fellow, you know, hunters, anglers.
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So the natural question you, you’re getting all through the expo, all through anything and everything you’re doing is, what’s the difference between you and other popular hunting supplement companies? Yeah. So what would be the difference? And we all know who they are, don’t have to mention ’em, but what would be the difference between you and them? Yeah.
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That probably went into your formulation from the get go. I would imagine that answer, wanting to answer that
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Question. Yeah. Well, and just really simply, the, one of the biggest things is that, and then you guys see it in almost any kind of product that we use, you know, you see it, whether it’s a daily vitamin supplement, oh, it’s a thousand percent of this and it’s, you know, whatever, you know, a lot of companies, you know, they’re trying to juice you with a ton of caffeine, you know, for the energy. Well, caffeine’s cheap. It’s, it’s synthetic. That’s why we get headaches. That’s why we have like withdrawals, withdrawal, different things. And so one of the things that we focused on from the very beginning is what can our body use at any given time? Meaning what can it metabolize? And then secondarily is, you know, let’s use ingredients that are clean, they’re natural so that they can be metabolized. And then the third thing is let’s innovate and use instead of caffeine, for example, let’s, let’s come up with some other alternatives for our energy source. And you know, the three products that we launched with, we have Conquer, which is our energy, which I’m drinking a little peach, mango right here. Okay. But you’ll notice, you know, like this is a peach mango and the color is kind of an opaque color. Yeah. There’s not, we don’t put any artificial colors or es
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I’ve got kind the same colors. Adam, let’s see. And I’ve got what Quench, I
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Think no red number 40 in there,
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Huh? No, no. Red number 40. That’s one of the, the first things that people always say like, Hey, you’re strawberry watermelon, why is this not red? Or your tiger’s blood? Why is it not? Like, you know? Yeah. But those things are all linked to neurological issues. And so they’re dyes. Yeah. They’re dyes non
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Natural. So colors your thing. It’s what’s in it. It’s
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What’s in it and it’s
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Really helping you.
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Yeah. And so our, our energy drink,
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While’s the only one that’s not drinking anything.
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I haven’t opened one up yet. Yet. How do you
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Feel? Come on.
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I tried out this week, a few different
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Flavors. I would like quiet to have the energy. This we’re, here’s
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The energies are right, the
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Energy conquer. I have tried a few of ’em this week. I mean, they’re good. They’re all great tasting. They, they’re good in the past with other energy drinks, things like that. Or other, I guess supplement companies have had a hard time picking through flavors to one I like,
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I’m gonna drink my way to a 200.
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Yeah. It seems like this one, I haven’t had a hard time.
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It’s
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Gonna work. Hundred percent bud. A hundred percent guaranteed.
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200
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Right here for everybody listening. Guaranteed you drink a, a little
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Quench like Jason right there, money back. Where are your money back? Call Mike. Okay. So yeah, I
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Don’t be refunding all these tags.
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Yeah, exactly. So nobody talks about tags, just the drink itself. Okay.
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But no. And so if you look at our energy drink, it’s the synergy effect of the different ingredients that we’re using. And there’s very little caffeine in there. And we use, and it’s a plant-based caffeine from green tea extract.
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So you still like the caffeine as long as it’s moderated in moderation and natural.
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Yeah. And so, like you’ll notice in our energy drink it’s 120 milligrams, but when you’re using caffeine, plant-based caffeine as a energy source, so you’re really only getting an effective serving of about 80 milligrams. Oh. Because your body won’t use about 40 or you know, about 30%, whether
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It be synthetic. Is that different when you use
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Synthetic? No. Is it a higher percentage? Yeah. Synthetic is, it’ll punch you percent. Yeah. And so that’s why most energy drinks are two 40 or above 1 60, 2 40. Yeah. It’s crazy. Yeah. And that’s why you get this.
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Yeah.
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And, and then you get this so
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You crash hard. Oh
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Yeah. I mean we’ve all had it. I mean, I’m guilty. Listen, as, as nuts as I am about all this stuff, I’ve, I’ve drank my fair share five hours.
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I had my crash about an hour ago. You pull
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Up your gas station,
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You’re trying to stay alive driving home now. Now I’m on this stuff trying to get rejuvenated. Yeah.
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So anyways, we have very little caffeine in there and it’s plant-based and it’s natural. But the biggest differentiator in there is that we use what I call a hero ingredient. And in that one it’s our Elevate tp. And so we partnered with a company called Future Ceuticals. And what they do is they specialize in plant-based ingredients and then they study research. And what they’ve proven, there’s clinicals on this. And so we can actually talk about it, is what they’ve proven is that with the ingredients that are in a TP, that will trigger your body’s ability to create its own energy naturally at the mitochondrial level of using the A TP process. And so instead of getting this, you get like this a little bump, and then you hit altitude and you just cruise and then you kind of glide down. Okay. You don’t get the Yeah.
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The heavy up and up
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And the heavy down and the heavy up and down and, and like you were mentioning our flavors, I’m really proud of ’em. That’s probably the number one feedback that we get from people. Yeah. Is they taste good. All of our products taste good. And that was a huge thing, you know, for us is that, you know, if it’s not palatable, people aren’t gonna drink it
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If you can’t get past it. Why do people like Red Bulls? They’re
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Disgusted. I,
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And you know, they sell a lot of it.
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They do, they
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Sell, but I think it’s, they were the first one on the block. They were number one marketing,
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Kind
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Of like hunting forums. When you’re number, when you’re the first one, you just, you’re kind of the only one. Yeah. I guess it felt like Red Bull. I mean go drink yourself a wa a Diet Red Bull.
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Oh, they’re gross man.
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They’re disgust.
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I nothing, the reason why I drink a once in a while is ’cause I know I can’t have more than one and I’m gonna drink it slow. And they’re little and they do keep you awake just because they’re so disgusting.
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And they’re eight ounces, they’re, they’re small.
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Okay. I’m only my body a little bit. Oh shoot. I dunno. But they’re disgusting, you know?
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So that’s specific to your conquer lines that you were just talking about that that blend. Yep. Natural caffeine plus that. And then you have other stuff. Yep. That is more just for hydration or whatever else. Right. Just performance and recovery or whatever else. What do you,
00:31:14:10 –> 00:31:25:21
So when you’re coming out with these products, did you even look at what the other companies were doing? Or were you just saying, what do we want? I know what these ingredients will do that let’s mix and match ’em until we get the right formula.
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Well it was, it was kind of a combination, you know, being an avid outdoorsman myself and I hunt and fish and I actually, ironically I guide for clay. Yeah. This will be my sixth season guiding deer and elk, you know, antelope, whatever, you know, for clay this fall. And you know, being outdoors for 90 straight days, you know, you know, I, I care about what I’m putting in my body. Yeah. And that same with my
00:31:48:21 –> 00:31:52:07
Clients. It’s hard to be on the road or outside of your house all the time to eat healthy.
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It’s, we’re pretty lucky over there because we have a phenomenal cook that takes very good care of us. And so we’re able to avoid the gas station burritos and, you know, all that kind of stuff. And it’s hard
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To avoid those wine. It is,
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Yes.
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It
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Is hard. I mean, if you’re up there in Idaho doing a deer hunt, what are you eating each, each and every day?
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Whatever you can find.
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Exactly. Exactly. That’s my point. Before they a corn dog that spent on there 14 hours spinning. Yeah. They they look good at that point. Yeah.
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But anyways, and so it’s a kind of a combination. Some of it is, I just know what I wanted and I know what clay, you know, he, he’s obviously outside, you know, been doing hill guides and outfitters now for what, going on close to 10 years. Yeah. And he knows what he needs and wants from his body. And then, then we did look at other, you know, competition and you know, one of the biggest things we wanted to do is differentiate ourselves. And so like our energy drink, it’s clean, it’s natural. We have a hero ingredient in there that nobody else has. It’s licensed to us, you know, hero
00:32:52:15 –> 00:32:56:04
Ingredient. What, like what, what would constitute a hero ingredient?
00:32:56:12 –> 00:33:02:07
Like for example, in the conquer energy drink that a TP, that’s our hero ingredient because
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Which is a do all, let’s call it frankincense of it’s the frank, it is the frankincense of energy drinks. There we go. Now I’m tracking because I don’t know what this I, tp attp, I don’t, I don’t know what all that is. NAACP is, you can tell me whatever. And I would just nod my head. Yeah. I don’t know. I’m outta my realm. Right. Bronson, do we know anything? No, we know nothing. Take
00:33:21:05 –> 00:33:21:13
Mike.
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Well, we gotta, I mean that’s why people drink what they drink. They don’t know. They don’t know. They don’t know. Yeah. And education is such, it’s a cool name of a company, whatever it is. Let’s say company A, B, CI like the name people every I know why it’s, it’s drinking it. Yeah. Why? It’s a good guy. I think I’ll drink it. Yeah. Oh, I like it. You know what I mean? Like you don’t know what you don’t know a hundred percent. You went to France, I didn’t like, you know, I’m just trusting. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so and so anyway, so that, that is, you got your hero ingredient. That is our hero. Is that in all of them or is that only in this one? It’s
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Only in this one. But each product has has its own hero has its own hero ingredient. And so like when we look at our quench, the one that you’re drinking right there, the strawberry watermelon. And we have that in strawberry watermelon and mandarin orange. And so hydration, obviously you guys know what a big deal that is right now everybody and their dog has got a, a hydration drink that’s going out there. And that’s where you really see a lot of, oh, we’ve got X number of milligrams of sodium and you know, or potassium, magnesium, whatever. And they’re, they’re juicing. They’re even adding other like daily vitamin supplements to a hydration drink and different things. And going back to what our body can utilize at any given time, like giving it extra sodium for example, doesn’t necessarily mean I’m gonna hydrate faster or hydrate quicker. You hit like a a point where diminishing return point. Yeah. Yeah. Diminishing return. And so it’ll just flush,
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Flush it out like a vitamin B. Exactly. Just flushes after it. Vitamin C you just only
00:34:47:12 –> 00:34:51:24
2000 milligrams of vitamin C to start your day. Yeah. Won’t never get sick. Well your body doesn’t
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Need it. Can’t even utilize it. And so we’ve figured, you know, it’s a three, three one ratio we call it. And that’s your, you know, sodium, magnesium, potassium, those are the base electrolytes that you need on a daily basis and and per serving, it’s about 120 milligrams of sodium. That’s what our body can utilize. But the hero ingredient that nobody else has and nobody else is doing it, is we have a ingredient called S seven that’s a vasodilator. And what that does, you know, vasodilation, it opens you up, it’s gonna move, you know, all of those, you know, once it assimilates through the gut and into the bloodstream now hydrated, it’s, you’re hydrating faster. You’re staying hydrated longer. But the biggest thing, there’s secondary and tertiary benefits that come with it. So if I am, you know, opening everything up, I’m moving oxygen around. Yeah. The more oxygen I’m moving around. Yeah. You’re hiking on that sheep hook recovery. Yeah. And now you’re able
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To do more my muscles and be more efficient and
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Be more efficient and you’re functioning better. But then the secondary or tertiary benefit is more oxygenation. The more oxygen we have to our brain. That’s the greatest energy drink in the entire world is straight oxygen. You know, I don’t know if you guys have ever done that, but it is insane how alive and awake that you, you
00:36:01:15 –> 00:36:05:16
Feel just all these cans in like, oh yeah. Horses warehouse and stuff now just cans of it, cans
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Of oxygen. Is
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It bad for you? Like if I just do that day in and day out, is that bad for you?
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No, not really. I mean, it’s just oxygen. I don’t know that I would, it
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Seems like you don’t wanna mess with
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What the air have you seen smoke mother
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Nature? Smoke, smoke, whatever. We’re
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Smokes in our air right now,
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So Yeah, I get that mean. Geez, I get that. I’m going back, but it just feels like
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I’m about ready to go back to COVID.
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Gimme a shot of oxygen straight. Just doesn’t feel healthy to me. I mean, but
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You like,
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Have you ever watched in the NFL? Oh yeah. NBA or whatever they’ve always
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Got, but they’re always linemen when they’re going to Denver to play at 5,000 feet. The lineman from Jacksonville and he, he, he runs, he, he gets a, a strip sack and he’s trying to run 10 yards and he needs oxygen. I mean that’s, I always laugh, don’t you John? I mean it’s always kind of comical. Yeah. But,
00:36:47:08 –> 00:36:53:07
But they do things for their body and they only need to last 10 years and then after that they’re, they’re out to pasture.
00:36:53:16 –> 00:37:13:22
But yeah, same principle though. And it’s for people with emphysema or you know, you get into places where they coal miners on and they have to fight that the rest of their life, their lungs have been damaged. Yeah. So you need a higher percentage of oxygen than air has, you know, naturally. So same type of thing. I guess in certain ways this is just trying to maximize, you know, that that
00:37:14:04 –> 00:37:17:05
Transport just seems like you shouldn’t be messing with God.
00:37:19:09 –> 00:37:22:15
If that was the case, have a doctor saying I’ll be diet 32.
00:37:22:21 –> 00:37:26:07
I’m just saying like pure oxygen shots just don’t feel it’s an,
00:37:26:18 –> 00:37:32:03
It’s an inha. It’s not like it’s, I mean they do blood dope. I mean ask Lance Armstrong, it works
00:37:32:03 –> 00:37:34:22
Well. Got that stuff works for the bikers, the injections and all
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These, they blood mock re auction today, your blood, they, they went the port of France like 15,000 times in a row.
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I know this, that pure water doesn’t work. Ask why
00:37:46:10 –> 00:37:50:04
It is true. They don’t have that in, you know, your sweat, what you lose in sweat.
00:37:50:21 –> 00:37:53:23
I don’t know that it was pure water or the excess of creatine at that point.
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Oh
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This isn’t Wyatt’s a bachelor days.
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Bodybuilding days, younger
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Years. Yeah. You were shred.
00:38:00:29 –> 00:38:01:24
I heard you were shredded.
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That’s ALD story. I don’t know that it’s true. That’s just arch about stories.
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Brick what his house.
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A brick building. Yes. He said you were me. He said you were something else. But that, that’s maybe how you trace that to it later down the line.
00:38:16:18 –> 00:38:20:18
So each one of these have has its own hero. So let’s just say here, we’ve got a recovery
00:38:20:18 –> 00:38:21:10
Now we’ve got a recovery set,
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Quench, I don’t know what would be the difference between quench
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And recovery. Yeah. Four of ’em are 3 3, 3
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Products right
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Now. Okay. Conquer. We’re getting cranking. Conquer
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Energy.
00:38:30:01 –> 00:38:30:29
Yep. Energetic. We’re
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Gonna do something. Let’s maybe touch on the key points. Every one of ’em real quick while we’re kind of on it,
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We know the difference. I like that. So this, the conquer, this is our natural energy drink and the hero ingredient.
00:38:41:25 –> 00:38:45:01
So at 8:00 AM when I, when we’re gonna crank out a heavy office day.
00:38:45:01 –> 00:38:45:07
Yeah.
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We’re gonna drink, conquer.
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I drink this every bro every day. This is the first thing. I drink it every morning. You do. And
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No matter if you’re working out or not, like this is just to get you started. Okay.
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Every day. Just like, so the reason why the, the, that little backstory on Conquer, for example, I coached baseball for a very long time in the valley up there in, in Utah Valley. And I, it drove me crazy when I would see these kids that were, at that time my son was like 10 or whatever, and kids are coming into the dugout, you know, with a rockstar or a bull monster or red bull bull Bull, whatever. They, and they’re 10-year-old. The bodies are a hundred years.
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1918
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Pounds or less. Yeah. Terrible. And so I was like, man, I want to develop something that’s safe for kids that’s, you know, good for us. And so that’s, that’s, you know, my, all my kids, they’re all athletes. My daughter played, you know, soccer at Eastern Utah and my son actually we have a call tomorrow night with team USA baseball. So Nice. Yeah. My son is 15, just won the state championship five. A state championship here as a freshman was a starting second basement. Nice. Nice. And so this is designed not only for, as a pre-workout, I use it before I go to the gym, but I drink this as my morning elixir instead of having like a cup of coffee or a monster or a rockstar like a lot of people do or chugging that diet Mountain Dew that you were talking about or whatever, you know, everybody has their go-to, you know. Yeah. But this isn’t an, a clean alternative that will give you that same little pick me up in the morning. But it’ll also give you a little help in the gym. It’s got beta alanine, it’s got some niacin in there that’ll help open you up as well. There’s a little,
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There’s too much of it makes you flush, right? Like it’s, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean red and flush and get hot.
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Oh yeah. You get a, you get
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A, people are doing niacin for like high cholesterol and
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Things like that. Yeah. Niacin. If you
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Burn
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A sensation, yeah, you’ll get it. Your hands will turn red, your nose, your ears, you know, you’ll get a little blotchy skin. Yeah. It only lasts if that does ever happen, you have to consume a fair amount. That’s a lot for that to happen. But the niacin, we put it in there just ’cause if you shotgun one of these, you’ll notice that you’ll get just like someone going like this. And that’s kind of to let you know, hey, that’s the precursor to the a TP kicking in. You know, just like, hey, what this is actually happening. There’s something, you know, physiological that’s happening in the body right now. You, so
00:41:08:22 –> 00:41:12:21
You name it. Who, who named that L of a TP or whatever is that,
00:41:12:25 –> 00:42:01:10
Oh, that’s a no, the the scientist. That’s just the company that that we licensed the product from. They came up with that because they, it, what it does is it triggers the a TP process. I see in our cells. That’s the, that’s how they name it. Yeah. That’s the pump house. That’s the energy. Every cell in our body has an a TP process that it goes through. And so rather than, you know, know utilizing something like, you know, caffeine or other stimulants to tax your, you know, that tax, your adrenal glands and stuff like that, you know, this is something that’s natural. It’s starting at a cellular level and it’s just helping your body pick itself up. And it takes about 30 minutes for it to kick in. And it’s not one of those wacky in the face kind of pick me up. So it’s like you just all of a sudden realize, man, I don’t feel heavy right now, or I don’t my, I don’t feel tired or you feel good, you know, I feel good or I feel like I need to get off my butt and go do something. True
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Story though, when I, I drank this the other morning when it showed up for the first time I walked up there, remember I walked up, we guys were looking at that elk in the butt. Somebody brought an elk and we were out there gawing and I walked up behind Devon giving him a little kind of fake kidney shot. I mean I just
00:42:15:01 –> 00:42:16:05
Feel good. You were ready.
00:42:16:08 –> 00:42:17:29
Well I was, I was ready. I was kind. You’re
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Gonna scrap. Yeah. Yeah.
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Devon spun around. ’cause it’s not in my nature to do that. He’s like, what do you, what do you want? Keep your
00:42:23:25 –> 00:42:31:16
Hands to yourself buddy sake. Don’t look at me that way, dad. So along with what, why it was talking about on the different categories to talk about quench, what does that do for
00:42:31:16 –> 00:43:11:16
You? So the quench is your hydration drink. That’s your go-to. And the hero ingredient in that is the S seven and that’s the vasodilator. It’s gonna open you up, helps you, you know, hydrate, stay hydrated and, and then oxygenation both the muscles as well as the brain. And that’s where you get that mental clarity. Like for example, when I’m sitting in, at the, you know, office and I’m, I actually, this is a little secret inside baseball right here, but I’ll take like the mandarin orange and I’ll mix it with the peach mango. Oh, cocktail. And I’ll do it, yeah. A little cocktail. So then I get vasodilation, I get the hydration, but I also get that LA tp, that little pick me up.
00:43:11:27 –> 00:43:16:00
So I thought you weren’t supposed to mix drugs, Jason. Well, the best part,
00:43:16:00 –> 00:43:16:29
These are just plants, man.
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It’s like, it’s like a free cocktail. There’s a lot. Cocaine comes from plants. Wait, wait, wait. So there’s no cocaine in any of this, just to be very clear. I’m just saying plants are aggressive too. Well they can be for sure. Wait, so what was that cocktail? Which, what were you mixing?
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So I’d like to take the mandarin, orange quench quench, and then I take the peach mango, peach
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Mango conquer
00:43:41:27 –> 00:43:44:00
The con conquer. And I mix those two together. You
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Throw that on a 16,
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That like recovery.
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I do like in one of my shaker bottles, we have some bigger shaker bottles, bigger shaker, you know, a little about 24 ounce. Yeah. So I’ll mix those two in there and, and then I’ll do the same thing with the, the strawberry watermelon and then the, I’ll do this a little, the tigers concoction right there as well. Tiger. Yeah. Okay. So but then, and then the last one is the recovery. And that’s kind of an unsung hero. These are our two, these are our two best,
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Best sellers.
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Sellers are the quench and the hydration. But the recovery’s kind of an unsung hero. And it’s something that most people kind of take for granted. That’s all, all of the branch chain amino acids that our body needs for repair and replenish every day. So whether you go to the gym and you work out, or you’re hunting or hiking or whatever, we’ve all felt that fatigue in our legs or you know, our back when you’re packing out or whatever. Well that’s just the muscles being tired. And then we build up lactic acid. And so that has all our branch chain aminos. But the hero ingredient there is called Vita Cherry. And what that does is it’s, once again, it’s plant-based. It comes from the Monterey cherry. And what it does, it helps to eliminate the lactic acid outta the muscle tissue. And then it’s also a natural anti-inflammatory. And I cannot tell you the number of stories of, you know, some of the hunters that come and hunt with us in the fall. You know, they’re guys that are now at the end of their sojourn, so to speak. And they’re trying to get as much in as, as they possibly can. I don’t know what age it’s supposed to
00:45:08:12 –> 00:45:09:17
Be. Well, I hope it’s a long
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Ways off. Me too. I hope it’s a long ways off. But I gotta tell you like, we’ll give those to those guys and they’ll feel alive. I’m sleeping good, I’m sleeping better. Like my muscles don’t hurt, my knees don’t hurt, my joints aren’t, you know, killing me. And so that’s kind of the unsung hero. And that’s something that we can go to on a daily basis. Like if you have
00:45:33:11 –> 00:45:36:03
A headache, does it have like glucosamine and chondroitin in it? No.
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No.
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Come on. I mean, those are good for joints, right?
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They’re very good collagen’s. The best thing though for it, is it? Oh yeah. That’s another product that we’re
00:45:43:16 –> 00:45:43:23
Working on.
00:45:43:25 –> 00:45:58:03
Are, are you Yeah, we’re working on a, a liquid marine based collagen Yeah. Product that we’ll put out because collagen gets pitched and most of it, I mean we’re all, you know, married or have daughters or moms or whatever, nails and hair type stuff, nails, hair, skin. Right. And I didn’t
00:45:58:03 –> 00:45:58:16
Have enough of that.
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But the reality is
00:46:00:18 –> 00:46:04:25
You need more prenatal. You do. It grows hair.
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It does, it
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Does grow hair. It does grow hair Too late. Too late. And nails foic closer. I get tired of clipping my nails.
00:46:12:26 –> 00:47:01:05
But anyways. And so, yeah, we are working on a, a collagen product. We’ve already got the formula done. We’re just trying to get to that right place with these before we bring out and introduce another product. But it’ll be big in the hunting industry because what most people don’t understand is that men, we need it as much or if not more than even women. And it’s not for the cosmetic reasons that women like to take it, but 70% of all the protein in our body is actually a collagen based protein. It’s the sinu, it’s the, you know, muscle tissue. I mean, everything that keeps us together is based in collagen. Wow. And so I, I take 15 to 20 grams of marine collagen every single solitary day. Really? Yeah. Every day. Every day. And I do it religiously. And I, I can’t wait for us to get to a place where we can bring it out to everybody. ’cause it’s
00:47:01:05 –> 00:47:02:03
Something where can I buy that
00:47:03:10 –> 00:47:03:13
Medicine?
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Just buy it out there. You’re ready? Just some kind of a natural herbal
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Store or something. Yeah. I’ll tell you.
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And I know we can look at the back of these. And re real quick, does the, does the recovery have a lot of what’s in the quench plus that recovery stuff? Or is it semi different or totally different? Completely different. All
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Three, they’re, they’re, they’re completely different. All three of ’em. Yeah. All three of ’em are completely different. No carryover really. No, not a lot of carry over. That’s
00:47:27:00 –> 00:47:35:23
Why mix and, yeah. Gotcha. You gotta buy each and every SKU for a different time of day. Different fire. Have a hard day at the office. You’re, you need a, you need a recovery. You’re
00:47:35:24 –> 00:47:37:22
Chilling in round camp in the middle of the day. Don’t want to take
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When the draws come out. Why? It’s so, it’s just sucking down the recovery
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Every,
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Every night.
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Been chasing chase
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Around how grandpa lived to be 90 on eggs and bacon. You know what I mean? I don’t know. I think it’s all the synthetics that he’s never had.
00:47:53:01 –> 00:47:55:11
Probably it was from the farm. Oh,
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I, I could go, literally, I could do a dissertation on this.
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No.
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Biblical times. Hundreds of years. Every morning.
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Frankincense.
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Frankincense.
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Honestly, you go back to doing what’s natural.
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I eat, I ate.
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If, if you can grow it or kill it, you, it’s good for you.
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A hundred percent. I ate a half a pound of sausage every single day. Every day. And three eggs for breakfast every day. Protein. Protein. Protein.
00:48:17:26 –> 00:48:21:13
Yo. All right. Everything. Oh yeah. All the cholesterol cholesterol’s
00:48:21:13 –> 00:48:25:03
Good for not did you knows. 1970. This is a true, this is
00:48:25:03 –> 00:48:30:19
A true story. Well, there’s, they used to say that was bad for you and salt was bad for you. Yeah. Now we’re drink, we’re trying to put salt into our body.
00:48:30:19 –> 00:48:40:11
Everything. You know, and like, the crazy thing is, is 1970, a healthy cholesterol level was three 40. Now they’re trying to get it down to like 180 under
00:48:40:11 –> 00:48:42:06
2, 1 99. You’re on the brink.
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And, and right here, you know what our brain, our brain is
00:48:45:07 –> 00:48:46:00
Full of cholesterol
00:48:46:04 –> 00:49:01:11
Is, that’s all it is. Fat. Fat. It’s all the cholesterol fats. And so when we start stripping out all of the cholesterol and low cholesterol, you’re tripping your brain. We’re, we’re stripping everything. And since 1970, the rates of Alzheimer’s disease and everything has skyrocketed. And so
00:49:01:14 –> 00:49:02:11
What’s caused that?
00:49:03:03 –> 00:49:04:04
Not from
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Eat
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More bacon.
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A hundred percent. Eat eggs every
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Day. Eggs and bacon.
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I love it. Morning, every day. Lunch,
00:49:11:07 –> 00:49:16:09
Dinner. My son eats six eggs every single day. And he’d eat 12 if I’d let him. The
00:49:16:09 –> 00:49:17:19
Price of eggs, that’s a lot of money.
00:49:18:04 –> 00:49:19:01
Oh, I don’t know. I’ve got,
00:49:19:21 –> 00:49:20:15
Well, I’ve got birds
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Lay hands.
00:49:21:22 –> 00:49:29:04
I got birds of a variety of birds. But it makes you feel like you’re doing something kinda like this would do for Wyatt. Probably have less, less stones.
00:49:29:19 –> 00:49:31:01
They’re busting your chops. Yeah.
00:49:31:26 –> 00:49:32:16
I’m used to it. Water’s
00:49:32:16 –> 00:49:41:23
Boring. Water’s boring. Yeah. I’m wondering, so can you tell us, since you’re into all this, can you tell us about bottled water versus, is there bad bottled water? Good bottled water?
00:49:42:12 –> 00:49:44:06
No. I mean, the biggest thing with bottled water,
00:49:44:06 –> 00:49:45:24
Other than taste like you’re drinking arrowhead right there.
00:49:45:27 –> 00:49:51:15
Yeah. Yeah. But it’s his flavor in Arrowhead. Devon even drinks this with flavor. Yeah. Even though he admits it tastes
00:49:51:15 –> 00:49:56:00
Like, do you know anything? Like if you studied bottled water? Yeah. Plastic. So all of these things that we’re talking about. Yeah.
00:49:56:00 –> 00:50:00:10
The biggest thing is just don’t ever drink it if you leave ’em out in the truck. Yeah. That’s the biggest thing.
00:50:00:10 –> 00:50:00:29
Which is all the time.
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All the time. Right. And you know, when it gets that goofy flavor when it’s been sitting in the back of
00:50:05:12 –> 00:50:06:17
The truck means you’ve got plastics in
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The water now. Yeah. It’s been leaching at that point. ’cause once it gets hot and then it cools and then it gets hot. And so that’s the biggest thing. But water’s water, I mean, most of these things don’t come from artesian wells or anything. Yeah.
00:50:16:10 –> 00:50:16:21
They’re not
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Pure, you
00:50:17:09 –> 00:50:18:21
Know, it’s totally pure, you
00:50:18:21 –> 00:50:21:10
Know what they call it. So like the,
00:50:22:02 –> 00:50:24:15
How my well water is at the house, like out the
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Property. Oh, come on. This is Utah right here. Central Utah. You guys good? Oh yeah. Yeah. Some of the best water in
00:50:29:22 –> 00:50:40:05
World. 500 feet deep. It’s gotta be healthy, doesn’t it? Oh yeah. So do you have any words of wisdom besides this, just wor healthy words of wisdom to people in the world that are listening healthy besides to buy your product?
00:50:41:05 –> 00:50:42:24
Well, first you gotta, yeah, but no, I’m just teasing.
00:50:44:13 –> 00:50:44:28
Healthy
00:50:45:00 –> 00:50:46:19
Words of wisdom for
00:50:46:25 –> 00:50:57:13
Well, somebody that’s studied like you have and done all of these things and been around all these people and know all the ingredients. Like, I mean, you’ve gotta know just general, everyday life. Yeah.
00:50:57:29 –> 00:51:09:01
When it comes to that particular vein, the biggest thing is that keep it natural. You know, I wasn’t joking around. I literally eat a half a pound of sausage every morning. It’s, I mean, they,
00:51:09:16 –> 00:51:13:25
Not all sausage is created equal. That’s only two little, so you’re just down to Walmart buying sausage? Yeah,
00:51:13:25 –> 00:51:16:11
Just I go down to Walmart and get the Jimmy Dean that. What
00:51:16:11 –> 00:51:18:05
About the grease? You pour it off? Oh
00:51:18:05 –> 00:51:19:28
No. Cook the eggs in them. You’re eating.
00:51:19:28 –> 00:51:21:06
Come on. Do you? Oh yeah. That
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Fat,
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That’s animal fat. It’s good. That’s fat. Fat. Hell yeah.
00:51:24:27 –> 00:51:27:11
Any carbohydrates, fat, stay away from the white carbs.
00:51:27:11 –> 00:51:31:15
Well, I try to stay away from processed carbohydrates. I mean, it’s hard, you know, and everything. You’re,
00:51:31:15 –> 00:51:32:22
You gonna have toast with some eggs, aren’t you?
00:51:32:28 –> 00:52:09:13
Oh yeah. Every once in a while I’ll have some toast, but I like English muffins. I’m an English muffin kind of guy. But you know, the biggest thing is just be natural. You know, everything close to, they’ve been telling us for really since the seventies and eighties, you know, low fat foods, no fats are good. Your body needs fats. Your body can’t even digest or process some foods without having fat. You know, we have to, some of the vitamins and minerals cannot be assimilated into the body without having fats. And so my biggest word of advice to everybody is, you know, whatever mainstream has been telling you to do for the last 30 years, do the opposite. Do the opposite. Opposite. Yeah.
00:52:09:15 –> 00:52:09:27
It has
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Been, do the opposite and see what happens. You know? Yeah.
00:52:13:06 –> 00:52:30:27
I got a question for y’all. This is kinda along those lines. And I got, I’ve been abused by this, by extended family for most of my life, but I think there was nothing wrong with it. So when you were a kid, when your parents would fry up bacon and you’d have a freaking whole pan of grease, my parents would save it in like a
00:52:31:01 –> 00:52:32:12
Tin can. Well, they’d save it and it turned hard.
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Yeah. And put it in and then they would use it. Cook with that for everything. Yeah. Did they do that? Yes. And then be told, ah, you better stop that. It’s gonna kill you. Whatever.
00:52:40:05 –> 00:52:41:12
C clog up all that clog
00:52:41:12 –> 00:52:52:15
You and kill you. Right. True. But it’s just fat. It’s just fat is all it’s, yeah. Yeah. Right. And we all, and now it’s kind of coming back in place. People using that you can buy, buy hand milk, buy that tallow instead of Crisco, which is,
00:52:53:04 –> 00:53:10:21
I hand milk the jersey cow before even, and then go to school unshared it smelling like cow. Disgusting. But nevertheless, hand milked this jersey. And then it would have like this much cream on the top. Oh. Oh, that’s good. Tough. And then you’d make, and it is. And, and we always, you know, kind of look back on it and say, oh,
00:53:10:21 –> 00:53:12:01
That’ll clog your artery. Get rid of that.
00:53:12:01 –> 00:53:16:04
Depending on which decade you’re talking about. That was really bad for you. Or really good
00:53:16:04 –> 00:53:17:21
For you. Oh man, I’m, I’m a fan.
00:53:17:21 –> 00:53:18:03
That’s a connector,
00:53:18:03 –> 00:53:21:15
Man. I’m a fan. That’s, that’s that stuff right there. Yeah. Yeah. Like,
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It’s like drinking cream. I’m not talking about drinking the cream. I’m talking, talking just the milk part. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah.
00:53:28:16 –> 00:53:29:13
Anyway, thinking
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About going
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Back, it hit my mind because it’s natural, but it was just told need don’t do type of stuff. And now, I mean people that you can buy it in the store now. Beef tallow and, and yeah. Pork tallow just to cook with the same thing.
00:53:41:23 –> 00:53:43:01
Tell so good. You know, tall,
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So good for you. Just pure fat to, you know, render down a little bit.
00:53:46:13 –> 00:53:54:00
W if I buy a cow, will you make milk? Hey, these hands didn’t come around and they were only built when I was a little kid.
00:53:54:29 –> 00:53:55:07
I don’t
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Know that I’m cut out for milking cows.
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Yeah. I watched my grandpa enough and that was, that was good. I did get too close. That tail can give you a nasty whip.
00:54:02:27 –> 00:54:05:23
Oh, tell freaking flies. Anyway. Disgusting.
00:54:06:07 –> 00:54:13:06
This is all it, this is all good. Good talking. Especially for guys. Did you, you said you hit 50 this year. Does that mean you hit it or you’re about to hit
00:54:13:06 –> 00:54:16:24
It? I’m about to hit it. Well, in December, I’ll turn 50 in December. So, no, that
00:54:16:24 –> 00:54:17:15
Makes four of us.
00:54:17:15 –> 00:54:18:13
Good luck with that. So
00:54:18:13 –> 00:54:27:01
Talking about other, other, just, you know, things in general and health wise, do you know like what helps with cramps the most in your opinion?
00:54:27:13 –> 00:54:28:12
Hydration mustard.
00:54:28:20 –> 00:54:29:27
Just the hydration.
00:54:30:04 –> 00:55:05:05
Quench. Yeah. Que yeah. That’d be quench, you know, when you’re out, especially those early season hunts and stuff. Yeah. Even what, you know, most guys, they’re out there drinking, they have their soda pop or they have their coffee or whatever. A lot of those things are diuretics. Yeah. And so they’re gonna move a lot of those minerals and everything outta your body through urine. And you’re not drinking enough of the electrolytes. And so you don’t realize, holy smokes man, why are my calves, you know, on this hike? Why? You know, so yeah. You, you gotta stay hydrated even when it’s cold outside. But early season, man, you those right there, when we are in our early season archery hunts, I drink probably six of those a day.
00:55:05:14 –> 00:55:07:27
Is there a lemon? You think that’s good versus better? Not if
00:55:07:27 –> 00:55:09:28
You’re, if you’re working and you’re not, if you’re sweating your guts out.
00:55:10:03 –> 00:55:10:24
Yeah. If you’re working and
00:55:10:24 –> 00:55:12:03
You’re moving it through your system, does
00:55:12:03 –> 00:55:15:29
The FDA have to approve any of this stuff? So how does this, how’s the FDA work, the
00:55:16:00 –> 00:55:43:12
FDA, how that whole, you know, situation works. They don’t regulate, you know, natural supplements. They would like to and we don’t want ’em to, because then we wouldn’t be able to bring you a electrolyte drink. You’d have to go get a prescription. Right. ’cause the pharmaceutical industry would love to shut down. Sure. All supplements. And so, but one of the things that we do to ensure quality is that our manufacturer is an FDA approved manufacturing facility facility. And so we actually have that on our bags. Okay. And
00:55:43:12 –> 00:55:57:07
So, because there’s some that are not F FDA a, well, most all of ’em are. All of ’em. Maybe. Yeah. They’re, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can just sell it. You would think if you could ingest it commercially from a Yeah. That it would be regulated to some degree, but there’s not. It’s
00:55:57:07 –> 00:56:33:07
Not. No. We spend a, a fair amount of, of money, like our manufacturer’s not the cheapest by any stretch of the means. And it’s because they have all of their credentials. Licensing and credentials. Yeah, credentials. That’s a great way to say it. Monitoring. Yeah. You know, certificates. So the manufacturing facility is NSF certified, which that’s the most stringent certification board. It’s like an ISO standard only on, on steroids. And so they can be, you know, audited at any given time. And to have that, it costs tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars for a manufacturer to go through all of the various levels to get NSF certification. Oh, I can only imagine.
00:56:33:19 –> 00:56:34:25
Go government. Yeah.
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It’s a, it’s a big deal. And so that’s how we ensure quality. It’s starts with, you know, who we partner with. And so our manufacturer, it’s a Utah based manufacturer. In fact, we call that where I live up in Utah County, we call it Vida Valley because there’s more manufacturers there than anywhere else in the rest of the country combined, you know, so it’s pretty crazy. And not all of ’em are created equal. So you gotta make sure you’re dancing with the right dance partner.
00:56:59:26 –> 00:57:00:28
Yeah. Interesting.
00:57:01:23 –> 00:57:15:17
Okay. I got another one. Yeah. But, so I knew I had a problem with Monster when I drink it and my kidneys hurt. Oh yeah. Like immediately what? So what, you’ve never told us this. I know. I haven’t told you that, John, you’re one of our business partner. We can’t lose you. Yeah, I know. And he’s been to ever told us,
00:57:15:28 –> 00:57:17:17
All I know is he goes to the doctor a lot.
00:57:18:27 –> 00:57:20:01
No. And, and I’ve cut back,
00:57:20:03 –> 00:57:22:12
I’ve been thinking about cut back nsurance for
00:57:22:12 –> 00:57:35:07
Jobs, so cut back, back substantially. So that’s one of the reasons that, that spurred on this and trying to find something that was more healthy is, ’cause you know, if I get two in a row, then it, it immediately starts hurting. I
00:57:35:07 –> 00:57:42:07
Heard other popular companies are just cheap garbage. You know what I mean? And so I just haven’t been a huge fan, you know?
00:57:42:08 –> 00:58:01:18
Yeah. Well, and a lot of those things, I mean, when you’re putting all those chemicals that are all synthetic into our body, think about it. I like, I use a metaphor of, you know, if I have a Mac over here and I have a Windows PC over here, and I’m trying to run, I dunno if you guys have ever tried to use Excel, for example, on a Mac, it sucks. Like, you know, it was built, how
00:58:01:18 –> 00:58:03:05
About this Macs suck period.
00:58:03:09 –> 00:58:07:10
We’re, I’m with you. Old school’s a people guy. I’m a PC guy myself.
00:58:07:10 –> 00:58:16:29
Let’s, we were teach, and John taught Logan how to use the, when were, when we were using the mouse properly and this and that, and John reprogrammed it for you and all this, once
00:58:16:29 –> 00:58:20:05
You go back, you never go back. Well, it’s because you,
00:58:20:18 –> 00:58:21:28
It’s because you’re too embarrassed
00:58:22:12 –> 00:58:22:18
To
00:58:22:18 –> 00:58:26:03
Admit that they suck so bad. You spent two grand on it. They’re,
00:58:26:03 –> 00:58:29:12
It’s, it’s just like having your phone as a computer and you using an Apple
00:58:29:12 –> 00:58:32:17
Phone. I’m using an Apple phone who doesn’t Mostly for airdrop,
00:58:32:23 –> 00:58:34:21
Because they’re better. You’re half Mac then
00:58:35:04 –> 00:58:38:21
I do use an Apple phone. I’m not a PC guy. But anyways, like, to answer your
00:58:38:27 –> 00:58:39:28
Question anyway, like,
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So when you have, you know, two programs that they don’t understand each other, they don’t function properly. Yeah. And that’s what happens when we’re constantly inundating our body with synthetics. Our body’s just trying to metabolize, it’s trying to figure out how that code works. Whoa. And it’s like, this doesn’t
00:58:55:11 –> 00:58:57:01
Work. Somebody threw something down the drain right here.
00:58:57:18 –> 00:58:57:27
So your
00:58:57:27 –> 00:59:57:24
Kidneys are working extra hard to process, to process everything. And it’s just like, I’m confused. I don’t know what to do. And so that’s why, you know, and I don’t want to bash on other people’s products and stuff, you know, everybody has their own purpose, mission, whatever they’re trying to do. But what we’re passionate about is providing a high quality product to communities that we love. We’re active in like the ranch rodeo world. We sponsor the WSTR, the World Series of team roping. You know, we’re, we’re obviously avid hunters, outdoorsmen, and these are the communities that we run in. And we don’t need to be all things for everybody, but we do wanna make sure the communities that are near and dear to us, the, we’re providing a product that, you know, can help people really in the, that’s where the name Apex comes from, is that, you know, what is life? It is a series of peaks and valleys or apexes and valleys. And so you hit this one and you come down, what’s our next hunt? What’s our next milestone on top? And what it, I always tell people this, you know, how many cars have you had in your life?
00:59:58:13 –> 00:59:58:29
Yeah. A lot.
00:59:59:01 –> 01:00:02:01
Have you had a lot of cars? But how many bodies have you had in your life? Yeah,
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Just
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One. Just one. You get one body. Yeah. You know, we only, and this is, you know, not to get all, but we had, this is our temple touch know, it’s true. But it’s our temple. And if, if you’re listening and you’re a hunter and you know, you happen to be 50, 60, 70, you’ve been saving 25 points for that mule deer hunt in Colorado or whatever, well guess what? You got one body start taking care of it, you know? And I, I don’t know about you guys. I have a lot of, I I’m gonna be 50, but I have a lot of life I wanna live and I want to do it
01:00:32:12 –> 01:00:52:28
To, I’ve left two, I’ve lived two or three lives in one already. That’s what I feel. I’m, I’m good. Yeah. If I was stopped tomorrow, I’m kind of like, eh, I mean, I kind of want, I got a lot. I want to do top four or five bucks to go to certain family members. I mean, I’ve already listed that out. Guy gonna, I wore, Hey, you got a lot left. Money don’t,
01:00:52:28 –> 01:00:53:12
Don’t talk
01:00:53:16 –> 01:01:21:15
Like that. Hey, cut that foot outta the grave. If you guys even knew, I mean, I’ve lived a lot. No, dude, it’s three in the morning. Four. I mean, running cameras, like, I’m sick of it. You, you, you stopped. I’m actually tired of life right now. That’s right. Go golfing at five 30. It’s little. Trying, trying to find bucks. If you tried to find a 200 energy 20 inch deer in the last four years. Yeah, I have. It’s impossible. Yeah, I have. Yeah. But I’m still trying. And then at some point I’m like, you know what, these antelope look really good. They look great. That’s the only pictures I have to share right now.
01:01:22:04 –> 01:01:22:27
Antelope bug.
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Big ones. I mean, it’s sad when we got a good buddy that walks in and says, I saw a big buffalo. I mean, that’s all you got to talk about Buffalo and antelope. I’m sat Jason up with a therapy appointment. Yeah. Get Paul. And that’s the other somebody called, that’s the other problem with the latter days. Are we, everybody’s got a therapist on tap. I don’t know. There you go. Going back to no therapy and nothing but eggs and bacon. Eggs and bacon and no water. Doesn’t work for Wyatt. So it’s not gonna work for me. So we’re gonna do this conquer, we’re gonna do whatever. Quench recovery. I’m in a recovery mode though. I am. Are I’m wipe Well, that’ll be good. You’re, you might need this first No. To get started tomorrow. Okay. Tomorrow.
01:02:04:03 –> 01:02:21:01
All right. That is one thing I will tell you. ’cause this is subtle. If you’re planning on going to bed, probably don’t drink that an hour or two before. Yeah. ’cause that the life, the shelf life on this, once it’s in the system, you’re gonna, you’re gonna go for about four to five hours, depending on how hard
01:02:21:12 –> 01:02:24:22
I did notice that last week. I know. I think we all did those. Yeah.
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Try middle. We’ve been drinking.
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We’ve been drinking usually in the mid to late morning. Early, early, mid morning.
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It’s impressive. Not gonna lie. Yeah.
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Well, drinking, it’s been a labor of love. It’s, it’s something that we’re certainly passionate about. I wish Clay could have been here, you know, with us. You know, he’s, he’s pretty busy over in Colorado getting ready for all the activities that we were gonna be. Oh yeah.
01:02:44:25 –> 01:02:47:04
And he is building fans and he does a lot of everything cow.
01:02:47:07 –> 01:03:01:05
Oh man. He just bought a bunch of cows too. I mean, he’s, yeah. You know, he’s the quintessential family man now, you know, when I met him, he just, his wife was pregnant with their first kid and now they got three. And so like, it’s fun to kind of watch, bring
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Him over here to Utah.
01:03:02:10 –> 01:03:02:16
I know.
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He’s just getting started. That’s a fourth of what’ll end up with
01:03:06:24 –> 01:03:09:16
I know. Next thing you know, he’ll have 12. Yeah.
01:03:10:13 –> 01:03:23:15
Well, so, all right. So how do people, how do people buy it? Is it on shelf anywhere? I see we’ve got some barcodes and things that obviously, I don’t know if that’s, it’s available places like that. Health food stores, things like that. Or are you just doing direct on
01:03:23:15 –> 01:03:47:22
The website? It’s direct to consumer right now. Yeah. We’re working with, you know, a company right now that’s helping us get into some of the big box retailers and different things. But as a, this is one of the things that I’m learning is it doesn’t necessarily matter about the quality of your product or different things. Getting into retail is, that’s a whole nother network Yeah. That I’m working on getting into right now. Yeah. And so hopefully here in the next year,
01:03:47:22 –> 01:03:49:18
Cut your profits in half. You might not want ’em. Yeah.
01:03:49:28 –> 01:04:04:18
Actually, well, until you, and also until you sell your product to enough and get the word of mouth free, you know, crazy people aren’t gonna impulsively throw that in there as much if they never heard from, if it’s brand new. So you’re still working on that phase of it, that word of mouth and partly what, what we’re doing day.
01:04:04:18 –> 01:04:10:00
Throw some camo, let’s throw some camo on this packaging and Oh, I mean, you know, rights fishing lore, Hey.
01:04:10:11 –> 01:04:13:29
Yeah. Right. It might lead a LT rope on there. Yeah. Oh
01:04:13:29 –> 01:04:14:01
Yeah.
01:04:14:12 –> 01:04:20:23
I don’t know. I mean, it’s for everybody, Jason. Yeah, it’s for housewives too. If they want it. They, they work out. They’ve their own, they do yoga and
01:04:20:24 –> 01:04:21:22
They got their own thing.
01:04:21:27 –> 01:04:24:22
Well they, they, they don’t know what they’re missing maybe, you
01:04:24:22 –> 01:04:46:27
Know? Well, that is one thing. The brand as it sits currently is pretty masculine, you know? Yeah. And so a lot of the women kind of look at it and be like, oh. But the interesting thing is, like up at the expo, it is so interesting at our booth, it’s always the ladies that will come over and they ask really, really good questions. They, well,
01:04:46:27 –> 01:04:47:25
They’re into health and
01:04:47:25 –> 01:04:52:15
They’re more, they’re more health conscious. Yeah. They’re more about, what am I putting in my body guys? Like, guys
01:04:52:15 –> 01:04:58:24
Are, guys are burning the candle at both ends and like Wyatt’s doing, going to Maverick for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
01:05:01:04 –> 01:05:02:01
I don’t know, it’s that bad.
01:05:04:08 –> 01:05:05:06
It’s not that bad.
01:05:05:19 –> 01:05:37:09
But they do ask good questions. Yeah. And, and so one of the things is we continue to evolve as a company. We’re gonna try to open that up a little bit. So it doesn’t seem, not that we want to alienate or go against, you know, our foundation, but it’s for everybody. But it is for everybody. It’s for kids. Like my littles, they, they drink the quench. And my youngest is 12 and she’s been drinking that stuff before soccer games and after soccer games. My son, who’s now, you know, 15, or I guess he just turned 16, he, he drinks it. I mean, it’s,
01:05:37:17 –> 01:05:37:29
It’s good.
01:05:38:08 –> 01:05:44:06
But I don’t think as far as your, your labeling and all that, I don’t think it’s, I wouldn’t label this too masculine. No, I don’t say it that way.
01:05:44:12 –> 01:05:49:06
If you look at everybody in the industry, they’re, they’re all masculine. I mean, there’s the energy drink,
01:05:49:18 –> 01:06:00:23
They kind are, but this is not, I don’t, this doesn’t wreak of that. You don’t have some re it out dude on the front or any, I mean it’s so Yeah. You, you’re looking at avenues for it. But I, anyway, I don’t think it’s
01:06:01:08 –> 01:06:02:13
No, but right now doesn’t
01:06:02:13 –> 01:06:04:04
Seem too rugged to me. No,
01:06:04:13 –> 01:06:42:09
Honestly. And I mean, it, it’s a, it’s kind of a cool packaging. The x and, and we like that. And like I said, we’ve got a few other products that are, you know, either just wrapping up development and getting ready to be staged, you know, for launch. We get through the rest of this year, we’re gonna, you know, run with these bad dogs. Right now we’re, like I said at the beginning, we are starting to catch little wind and partnerships like this certainly help. Which we great. We, we appreciate immensely. Yeah. You know, considering, you know, your followers and your clients, they’re our clients. They’re, yeah. They’re the community that we’re, they are, that we’re a part of as well. And so we’re excited about that. And
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Everybody’s drinking something. That was my point to begin with. Yeah. Everybody, everybody. Everybody. Yep. Rarely do you find a water only guy. And when you do kidney stones well,
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And that’s the
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Problem. And then you find yourself belly crawling
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To your truck. To your truck driving yourself home. Yeah. That’s
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A bad choice. Losing
01:06:59:14 –> 01:07:00:21
Your, going to the hospital.
01:07:01:19 –> 01:07:05:13
That’s a bad. Did they use the ultrasound on you to break that thing up? Or did it just pass? It was
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All natural. Wasn’t what they just said. Sit and wait. They
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Gave me some kind of medication to, to help expand things and
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Oh really? Yeah.
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Dilation. I,
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I dunno, what was
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Vaso dilation? What was that? Did it work?
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This was a part I’ve never heard. Yeah, Michael, go ahead.
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I laid in bed for pain with pain for a few days. Geez. Before it finally busted loose. It’s
01:07:29:10 –> 01:07:30:29
Unbelievable. Was ugh, it’s unbelievable.
01:07:31:12 –> 01:07:42:13
My brother, he had that happen and he, he said he leaned like both hands on the wall by the toilet and just was like, please, please, please. And he, he said the same thing. He was like, think.
01:07:42:20 –> 01:07:43:22
Yep, that’s exactly,
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And it was like the biggest relief afterwards.
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Instantly.
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It’s
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Instantly hundred percent better.
01:07:48:03 –> 01:07:48:12
Have
01:07:48:12 –> 01:07:55:00
You had ’em too? Yeah. Yeah, I had it. You have? Yeah. So tell about, I went on an Alaska fishing trip and I took, oh, I
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Remember that
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Took advertisers. I,
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I remember this
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You about, and I was the close back in the day. Back in the day I was, I I was, yeah. And I was dying. It was like the pain is intense. Seems like your
01:08:05:15 –> 01:08:07:01
Boss is like, you’re going no matter
01:08:07:01 –> 01:08:13:11
What. Intense. Yeah. So at, at like 4:00 AM I went to the emergency room and weren’t
01:08:13:11 –> 01:08:14:12
You on a boat or is that before
01:08:14:12 –> 01:08:45:17
You No, no. On the boat. No. Was right before I, we were supposed to fly out the next day. And so at 4:00 AM I went into the emergency room and they put the morphine in. It was the best thing ever. It was like, I could just feel it warm, like going over my body. And I was like, okay. A little bit of relief. But it was intense. And then anyway, they, they gave me the same thing to open things up and it was, it was immediate. Like I passed it within like two hours and, and it was, as soon as it was out instantly better. You felt totally
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Normal. I’m help. ’cause I would’ve stayed home just saying, well there’s nothing you can do until it works its way out. No, I think if it’s six then I got on the plane meters are under. You’re okay. You gotta pass it on your own. Seven. I think it’s more like three or something. I think it’s very smaller. Well I thought they used lasers on seven plus.
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No. And then, and then it’s also the shape of it. Like there’s some that are like little spike balls. Well
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They all are right? Like, well
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Some of them are more rounded and, and they pass a little bit easier. And aren’t you
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Supposed to drink?
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Well it could be smaller but more spiky and I didn’t drink any
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Lemon juice. Jason. That’s a problem. Jason, where do you get your medicinal information? I talk
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To people
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Just, just like this guy right here. He had, Mike and I, we were focused on what, and I’m learning
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Actually
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That retaining You’re on, am I on point? Lemon, lemon, lemon juice. Yeah. Hey, I know a lot from having, being a guy that’s 50, you, you’re haven’t had any of these problems. You are one of the only two guys in this office that has chat GBT on your computer. And my phone too comes in handy. It’s wrong. Once in a while I have to correct them. That’s right. Yeah. It’s wrong. We know that. Alright, well this is awesome. So you got some hunts lined up this year?
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My biggest hunt that I’m doing this year is just to help my son get a good deer over Colorado. Nice. And then we’re gonna try to get him a, a elk with his bow. Nice.
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So Awesome.
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You know, I I kind of, that’s
01:10:03:23 –> 01:10:08:01
Exactly what I did with my son last year. Oh really? Elk with his bow deer in Colorado.
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Yep. So my son, he’s been pretty spoiled. I gotta be honest with you ’cause I’ve been able to, he’s been able to hunt 68 and down over that country. Yeah. Oh yeah. And I’ve had a rule for him though. He can’t, we kill all the goofy deer, like older deer that just, we don’t want in the, and this year though, he’s like, dad, I, I wanna
01:10:26:12 –> 01:10:28:10
Throw, wanna shoot what I wanna shoot. You know,
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Like he killed a, his first one over there when he was 12, he killed a, about a 27, 28 inch wide two by three. That was just heavy with big eye guards. Just, just a, I mean, you know, we killed good deer. But this year he is like, dad, I want a four point i I no more of these
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Like goofy like
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No management about and you know, Cody. And so he’s been going with me since he was just little and, and then he’s, he’s shooting his bow now. And so we’re gonna try to get him a bow or a bull with his bow. With his bow, you know, so that’s that’s awesome. We took him to, he and I went to Canada last year and I got a moose with my bull or a bow and then he got a bear and a wolf. Wow. It was, yeah, it was it was pretty epic. It was, it was awesome. Yeah. We went up there and, and, and so I’m kind of putting my personal hunting things on. I on the hold until I, my son gets, gets
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Done what knows happens. That’s
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What happens. Then I’ll go pursue some of my other things here and the neck years to come. But you only get those years when they’re teenagers and stuff like that for, so your
01:11:29:05 –> 01:11:35:23
Priorities are straight. That’s awesome. So, alright, well how, if I wanted some of this, what website do I go to?
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It’s checker feed. I,
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Evolution do com. Apex next evolution.com. Epic 25. Logan, are you good? We’re good. Are you gonna buy some of this stuff?
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I, I’ve been crushing it. I used it, that recovery the other day when I was in a little bit of pain on the motor.
01:12:36:25 –> 01:12:37:07
Really?
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It,
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It helped a lot actually. I took, I drank it before I went to bed and I woke up and
01:12:40:22 –> 01:12:49:13
That’s like a placebo thing. It’s just a mental thing. No, Jason, you can’t say that he’s impressionable
01:12:51:28 –> 01:12:56:00
Wants to just mock him because when you’re 24, like you shouldn’t even hurt.
01:12:56:07 –> 01:12:57:01
Yeah, you shouldn’t even
01:12:57:02 –> 01:12:58:16
That is a valid point. That is a
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Valid point. What I wanna do is how do we get kids Logan’s age to think straight? We need that clarity, the mind clarity version. You know what I mean?
01:13:06:15 –> 01:13:12:03
I’m thinking straight after about the 15th, lay down to that dirt bike. I was ready for something to help me with the pain.
01:13:12:28 –> 01:13:14:05
You were calling it day, hadn’t
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I? What did you say? What’s clarity? Oh,
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I was gonna say the quench bud. That’ll, you know, give,
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You’re using Conquer in the morning, right? Yep.
01:13:20:14 –> 01:13:22:17
Every morning I drink. Literally.
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Does that help you with clarity of mind too? Gets going. COVID fog,
01:13:25:27 –> 01:13:26:27
Get you going. I don’t
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Know about COVID fog. It’s a
01:13:27:25 –> 01:13:31:28
COVID fog. Where do you get your milk? Look it up him. And it’s a problem.
01:13:32:16 –> 01:13:32:27
COVID
01:13:32:27 –> 01:13:33:04
Fog.
01:13:33:04 –> 01:13:36:21
It’s a real deal. It’s a real thing. It’s a real thing. What would help a guy with COVID fog?
01:13:37:11 –> 01:13:37:22
Jesus.
01:13:38:09 –> 01:13:38:24
Well I
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Eggs and bacon about that. Prayer
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And bacon prayer.
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Eggs and
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Bacon
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Slicing avocado.
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No, just actually a detox probably is what you really need to do. Like a good good detox. Detox. Yeah.
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What would that consist of? It’s all
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Two hours for 15 days where you
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72 hour fast, you
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Burn every, you know, extra and
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Outta glac your water. Yeah.
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But yeah, like there’s like a three day, five day and then there’s like the master cleanse or whatever, which is a detoxing 10 day. And if you’ve ever, if you’ve never done it, it’s actually really Oh, it’s incredible. Done
01:14:13:22 –> 01:14:18:13
It ly Let’s say we do a de detox. What website or company would you go through?
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I wouldn’t, you don’t need to. You, you
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Just, no Uhuh, what do you do?
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So like, when I’ve done it, all you need is lemons and maple syrup and cayenne pepper. And you’d take those three things and you mix it into water and it’s the only thing you take. Now when I’ve, the last one I did, which was last year when I did it, I do take my, these products ’cause they’re just liquid. I don’t take but it, I did a 10 day master cleanse and it’s incredible. The first 72 hours are a little tough and then you get into,
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You get no hard food, no solids, no
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No food.
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10 days.
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10 days. All you do is drink maple syrup, cayenne pepper and lemon juice and water. Geez.
01:14:56:24 –> 01:14:57:12
That’s a hard
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Pass. You know?
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Could you
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Imagine? No, it’s amazing how good you feel when you’re done. And it’s amazing when you’re eliminating that’s a plight wave of saying going number two,
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Easy on the cayenne.
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And it’s, it’s actually super interesting to see that even in the day 10, you’re still having solid out solids that are coming out. Come
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On.
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A hundred percent. Remember the John Wayne story?
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We need to do that. Yes. Tell that, tell that story. The guy was worried he was gonna end up with 27 pounds of closer species,
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Closer
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To 40 whatever. Is that what we have? Yeah.
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About, about all of us. I bet. Sitting right here, right now, I probably got 10 pounds of just stuff that’s inside me that’s been there for however long. It’s called muco plaque. It builds up on all of our, our
01:15:41:03 –> 01:15:43:12
Intestine, intestine, colon, everything.
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And it just stays in there. And unless you cleanse and you do something that will help to remove or eliminate that stuff you can use like cilium husk. That’s another way to do it. But the master cleanse that goes through there and it just helps to flake that stuff off and it’s incredible what comes out. It doesn’t even look like a bowel movement. It’s, it’s insane.
01:16:01:11 –> 01:16:03:13
We’re getting to the deep guys. This is
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Interesting stuff. This deep. Yeah, this is good. This is interesting. You wait, people are gonna do this. I, I man, who else is in? I’m
01:16:08:24 –> 01:16:09:24
Doing no like start with
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A guy three days’ young. I’ve got guys, I’ve got guys that have been doing
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One of these old have never done a cleanse. You’ve got some shows built up. Literally
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Logan was sitting there. ’cause you’ve heard about that then obviously before, huh? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. ’cause if you just do those, that’s it. And it’s amazing how much better you’ll feel. Your skin will clear up. I mean all sorts of different, you know, benefits from it.
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I feel like it’s like doing a cleanse on your radiator. You know how your radiator inside has all those buildups of just stuff. Yeah. And they don’t work A radiator’s less
01:16:40:16 –> 01:16:41:12
Efficient. Your hot water heater.
01:16:41:15 –> 01:16:42:06
I feel like you’re doing the
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Same thing all but cleansing your pipes precipitate that are cling up your water heater and you can’t
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That same thing or or Yeah. Hot water heater with all this good use
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Of words participants like or what would precipitates Yeah. Yeah. Well
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Just say it. My close. Who knew that
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A hunting conversation
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Could get,
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So my my closest thing to this is like when I’ve done backpack sheet hunts, because you have such a, such a net calorie deficiency when you’re on those Oh yeah. For 10 or 15 days. That’s the closest I’ve ever come
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To You do come back feeling better.
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You feel like amazing. Yeah. Even if you go there and you’re not a hundred percent where you should be, but you, you crush it for 10, 15 straight days. ’cause you’re eating, you know, freeze dried and all that. Yeah. And there’s, that’s not a great diet necessarily, but I mean, it’s what you gotta eat
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Plugs you off a little
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Bit. But I mean, but just the net, the the net reduction, your body burns so much fat and just crap. Oh
01:17:34:17 –> 01:17:35:17
Wow. You come back 10 feel
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Bad. There’s question and you just feel the very, when you come back, there’s no
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Question.
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Like you feel the best. And, and I’m going again this year, so like August 10th I’ll be back before the rest of my hunt’s gonna be. It’s always anyway
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Set sets you up for a good fall.
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It does. It, it, I notice it and it’s, it’s the closest thing I’ve come to this other while
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You’re gone. I’m than be looking at 1 65 bucks
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Other than MiraLax
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Wish and I was looking for two tens or twenties. Oh
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Shoot. Yeah. Other than the real, you
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Know, my point is you’re not missing anything down here in the lower 48. Where
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Is it? No, I’m not. I’m going to 26th of July to the 10th. So there’s not even a hunt going
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On. Well, I mean plus or minus tree antelope somewhere.
01:18:10:17 –> 01:18:12:05
Well, okay, I’m not counting that
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Right. Why we got some plans. Yeah. Our start a little bit later. Oh, I forgot
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A little bit later. Not
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Much though. The 14th
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If I want, I had a chance to go with you guys.
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We’re gonna make good on it just because these guys didn’t do it. Why? It’s very calculated on what he decides to do hunting wise where he decides to spend his time. Right. And he came back from Idaho saying we’re gonna do this unlimited archery, antelope
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Saw some
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It’s next level, whatever. And so him and I are the only ones that did it. We did it the last application day. And because you don’t have to buy the tag. So you still
01:18:42:11 –> 01:18:44:01
Not committed. Have you actually spent the money?
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No, we’re totally committed Awesome public land that Mike Lee didn’t get to sell.
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Oh, thank goodness. Right?
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Yeah. I’m so tired of so tired of ha feeling like somebody wanted to do such a thing and sell public land. It’s just is disgusting. It’s defensive.
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It’s, I would like to know like really what was behind, like who, who are the develop
01:19:02:19 –> 01:19:04:28
Are the big man we all that we all support.
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Yeah. I think maybe even, yeah,
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Like, I would like to know because selling off public land, I mean that’s one of the only things that differentiates us from the rest of the world. You know, that we have 12,
01:19:15:04 –> 01:19:29:15
How much private land do you have access to? I mean, you might have a few friends and you obviously have a partner that deals in private. But just think about it. I mean, if you do that, what, where, what are your options? Is living here in the west, what are your options? I mean, that’s what we have. That’s
01:19:29:15 –> 01:19:30:01
What we’ve
01:19:30:13 –> 01:19:38:01
Grew up. You can’t afford it. You can’t afford to go buy any. Yeah. You know, it’s not like, like Kansas white tail country. You probably find some hundred acres
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Somewhat affordable. You got a place to hunt.
01:19:39:21 –> 01:20:02:18
You don’t have that here. Hundred acres does nothing for you. It maybe get you started on a road. Yeah. I mean, it’s nothing. Yeah. And so yeah, it’s, it’s, it would change everybody’s way of life. Fishermen, hunters, outdoor enthusiasts, ranchers. This would bring together the hikers and granola crunching community with the hunting community. We all didn lose on this one. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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Well it was kind of cool to see, you know, the different organizations like you were talking about the crunchies and the hunters and the rancher. Everybody did come together to really put some pressure on ’em. And I just get worried that they’re gonna try to sneak it in. I just, I
01:20:14:13 –> 01:20:18:00
Just wanna know what’s going on. Yeah. There’s more going behind the scenes that we don’t, we don’t know. Yeah,
01:20:18:06 –> 01:20:18:21
There he is.
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I wanna know the real there. Real,
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But but, but Mike took it on the chin for this one and the he deserved it. He, he, he. And hopefully he doesn’t recover. Yeah. That’s the way I feel.
01:20:28:02 –> 01:20:29:12
Well, I hope so too. He totally
01:20:29:17 –> 01:20:30:17
Weighed the flag for
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It because some of the things they’ve done with, you know, ’cause like, I, I look at this, I love to fly fish. That’s one of my favorite things. And what they’ve done out west over the last 15 years or so, you know, with trespass laws and where the water area fly water marks, high water marks and entry points. Yes. And it, I mean, it’s ridiculous. And those rivers are all of our rivers, you know what I mean? And so, you know, guys want to run you out of there. And now this is like akin to doing that, what they did with the waterways. That’s right. Now they’re trying to do it with land and who’s gonna buy up these giant swaths of land and then lock all of us out.
01:21:02:10 –> 01:21:36:11
Yeah. We’re we’re dealing with corner jumping. There’s just been so much, we feels like we fought so many fights in the last two or three years. Yeah. You know what I mean? Trapping, dealing with ca you know, California and, and predators and all of the things. It just, you know, then we’re dealing with wolves in Colorado. It’s just the fights are never ending. Yeah. And then you heap this one on and this big beautiful bill that everybody, we, we all want to support Trump and everything that he’s doing, he’s done an amazing job in many aspects. But then something like this comes up and you’re just like, man, dude, you’re forcing us to rise up against Yeah.
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We don’t want to do that. We
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Don’t wanna do that. You know what I mean? So,
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But we also don’t wanna lose our public lands and some of the things that are, that’s
01:21:42:12 –> 01:21:44:13
The only thing to live for in our industry. It’s all we got’s
01:21:44:13 –> 01:21:59:25
All we got. Well, and even if it’s not in our industry, I mean, who doesn’t want to be able to, even if you just live, go for a picnic, if you’re just John Q Citizen Exactly. That wants to take their, you know, family on a picnic on a Sunday motor afternoon. Go for a motor bike ride. Yeah. Go for a bike ride on. Some are more difficult than others
01:22:00:02 –> 01:22:03:12
On a rough, rough place that deserves to be closed down. But it’s not. But
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It’s not. I mean, Logan, how much property do you own? I own zero property. So just imagine if there’s no public land to ride on, would you buy a bike? It’s ridiculous. I mean, would you even buy a bike? No. Wouldn’t buy a bike. No. You’d live in Salt Lake. It’d be really hard to go hunting western big game without any public land. Yeah, it’s hard. It’s not an option, is it? It’s not. No.
01:22:20:15 –> 01:22:45:19
Well, one of the things that I, and I might be a little bit of a conspiracy theorist on this, but you know, since I’ve known Clay, I actually got into the cow business. And so I work with his family down in Swatch and I have my own cows now. And the more that I learn about that industry, and then you look at the opposite side that’s working against us. And right now, if it wasn’t for public lands, like the BLM and National Forest, you know, those permit
01:22:45:19 –> 01:22:47:00
Having an affordable AUMs and things like
01:22:47:00 –> 01:22:55:00
That. We couldn’t run cows during the summertime ’cause you can’t, can’t afford it. Where we grow the grass to feed ’em in the wintertime. Yeah. We can’t keep ’em on there. You gotta grow
01:22:55:00 –> 01:22:55:21
The hay in the summer.
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You gotta grow hay in the summer. And so if you, if they took up all that and then privatized it, now we don’t have access to that land. And you know, they’re trying to get us to eat bugs and they’re trying to like get rid of all the, have you seen all the stuff that they’re trying to do?
01:23:09:13 –> 01:23:09:27
Synthetic beef.
01:23:10:11 –> 01:23:12:05
Synthetic beef and fake fake chicken.
01:23:12:09 –> 01:23:13:07
It’s like a veggie burger.
01:23:13:07 –> 01:23:22:22
There’s no, there’s a certain person of great power who’s invented synthetic beef and his next mission is to buy up all public range land so that you can’t have free range cows. You have to buy a synthetic beef. Yep.
01:23:22:26 –> 01:23:24:01
Who, what, who are we talking about?
01:23:24:01 –> 01:23:24:18
Bill Gates.
01:23:24:18 –> 01:23:25:22
Yep. William. Really? Yeah.
01:23:25:27 –> 01:23:26:27
That’s happening. Yeah.
01:23:27:03 –> 01:23:28:05
That’s a real thing. Yeah.
01:23:28:12 –> 01:23:29:22
Wow. Yeah, they invented fake meat.
01:23:29:22 –> 01:23:32:06
So they want us to eat veggie burgers the rest of our lives.
01:23:32:12 –> 01:23:40:23
It’s, it’s technically protein based meat. Like, it, it tastes like red meat. It looks like red meat, but it’s not real. And it’s synthesized in a lab and yeah, you’re crap.
01:23:40:25 –> 01:23:41:07
Really?
01:23:41:09 –> 01:23:45:01
Who knows? It’s brand new. So who knows what it do to your body. But that’s a real thing. Wow.
01:23:45:09 –> 01:23:59:19
Like if you go and you look like Bill Gates privately, he’s one of the largest landowners privately, and all the land that he is buying is all farmland, ranch land, everything. And he does nothing with it. He’s not doing anything with it. Doesn’t, and that’s
01:23:59:19 –> 01:24:00:27
To force his next agenda.
01:24:01:00 –> 01:24:33:25
Yeah. And insects actually are the basis of that synthesized. Oh, I didn’t know that. Okay. They’re, they’re using insects and different things as their protein source. And I mean, think about this. This is, this isn’t conspiracy theory. This is actually happening. And so my thought is, is that whoever the power brokers that be or whatever, I mean, you think of all the different angles, whether it’s getting rid of beef out in public land, if it’s the anti-hunting groups that don’t want us to have it on there. If it’s the, Hey, keep the little guy down, don’t give him an opportunity. You know what I mean? So, I don’t know.
01:24:34:00 –> 01:24:41:17
I used to be, I was an anti conspiracy theory type guy. And then Jeff, John, my brother-in-law is heavy in a conspiracy theory. And
01:24:41:17 –> 01:24:42:01
He’s right,
01:24:42:24 –> 01:24:46:01
He’s right almost all the time. I I’m telling you, I believe in all
01:24:46:05 –> 01:24:53:16
Conspiracy theories. This is when we need Devon in here a while. That guy Archibald’s got a few of his own, the Wolverines and Red do he takes
01:24:53:24 –> 01:24:55:07
Guy. He takes it a little extreme.
01:24:55:12 –> 01:24:58:06
He, he, yeah. He, he that’s
01:24:58:06 –> 01:25:00:18
One of the greatest movies from back in the day though. The original one.
01:25:00:19 –> 01:25:02:24
It is the og It is, but I mean,
01:25:03:07 –> 01:25:10:13
All right. I’m good. I’m buying some of this stuff. I’m gonna use it. Never drinking another monster. Never ever a diet Red Bull ever.
01:25:11:22 –> 01:25:18:25
That’s, I’d rather drink a one ounce shot of, you know, cold medicine, which is about the worst thing
01:25:19:04 –> 01:25:20:11
I can do. NyQuil’s disgusting.
01:25:20:13 –> 01:25:28:03
My wife mocks me. ’cause I, I can’t do it. I have to buy the gel caps ’cause that stuff, but I’d rather do that than pound a red bull di Red Bull.
01:25:28:03 –> 01:25:29:15
Yeah. They’re so gross. They are
01:25:29:18 –> 01:25:33:04
So disgusting. But anyway, they taste good work on this. Good work. Thanks
01:25:33:06 –> 01:25:33:22
Mike. That’s
01:25:33:22 –> 01:25:46:21
Awesome. Yeah, it was great to visit. It was great to visit about the other, all all, all things in life. All things that pertain to men’s health, prenatals, stuff like that. We should make a prenatal for men. This is for you to do.
01:25:47:10 –> 01:25:49:22
Jay said you redefined the name. Yeah. We’re
01:25:49:22 –> 01:25:54:03
Gonna redefine it. But it needs, but it pre baby, everybody has respect for a prenatal, well
01:25:54:07 –> 01:25:59:17
Prenatal build babies. Well some dudes think they can have babies this day. Age you might change the name. Okay.
01:25:59:25 –> 01:26:05:17
But I just wanna be taken care of like that. Like, you know what I mean? So I take stuff that makes me awesome.
01:26:06:06 –> 01:26:08:00
Type it into chat GBT and see what
01:26:08:00 –> 01:26:09:06
They would call it. Let’s do it. Can’t call.
01:26:09:23 –> 01:26:10:19
I figure we’ll figure that one out.
01:26:10:22 –> 01:26:12:29
I I don’t want Clay be a part of this. I want me and you.
01:26:13:07 –> 01:26:13:16
Okay.
01:26:13:16 –> 01:26:14:27
Alright. Me and you to be part.
01:26:14:27 –> 01:26:15:16
Sorry, clay. You,
01:26:15:16 –> 01:26:22:15
You and him can have the beef. You can have some of this apex stuff. This next faction we chondroitin, coosa and prenatals.
01:26:23:14 –> 01:26:25:00
Caning, glucosamine. Yeah, those are good.
01:26:25:06 –> 01:26:30:25
No joke, right? Yep. Yep. Those are good. And people already know their household names. Let’s just repackage it, rebound it, put some camo on it,
01:26:31:00 –> 01:26:32:12
Put some camo on it. We’ll definitely
01:26:32:14 –> 01:26:35:13
Do that. Sell it to John. He’s hurts all the time. Are
01:26:35:13 –> 01:26:35:29
You hurting John?
01:26:36:06 –> 01:26:40:03
No, just, but since I, I’ve stopped the monster and cut way,
01:26:40:05 –> 01:26:42:24
Way back. You have not, you have whole cases in your
01:26:42:24 –> 01:26:44:25
Fridge. No, no, I don’t. No. I’ve I’ve
01:26:45:04 –> 01:26:49:17
On your side. Last, last month. No, don’t those appeared mysteriously We don’t but we don’t touch
01:26:49:22 –> 01:26:57:01
’em. No. Anyway, but I mean, I, I might have, okay, let, let’s go down from at least do we have like,
01:26:57:14 –> 01:26:58:17
We’re weaning you guys off of,
01:26:59:07 –> 01:26:59:21
It’s sort of
01:27:00:04 –> 01:27:05:28
Two to three a day, especially in the, in the spring. I had two a day and Yeah. And, and it is not good, but
01:27:06:12 –> 01:27:06:18
We
01:27:06:18 –> 01:27:08:24
Running cameras, but now I might have two a week.
01:27:09:07 –> 01:27:10:15
Yeah. Maybe’s
01:27:10:25 –> 01:27:20:09
Do I need to set up, speaking of running cameras, like if we’re gonna really wean you guys off, we gotta like put some cameras up in here. I told you I needed to go to the bathroom. I just wanted to check out the break room.
01:27:20:12 –> 01:27:35:04
Walmart delivers. Okay. Walmart delivers and these guys unload this poor guy’s car and it is weighted down with cans and cans and cans of stuff. Yeah, yeah. You know, diet Cokes, Cokes. But I every flavor of everything, little bit of water. Yeah.
01:27:35:24 –> 01:27:50:11
But since, I mean, we’ve been working on this deal and, and getting together since probably February. Yeah. And, and so just healthier Yeah. Since then, like yeah. I’ve substantially improved in the, in post
01:27:50:15 –> 01:27:51:03
Self awareness.
01:27:51:09 –> 01:27:51:18
Yeah.
01:27:51:21 –> 01:28:11:04
Well if you will, if I may, and I hope I don’t overstep, but you know, having a modicum of wisdom in the way that we do things, you know, and we’re here in Utah, you know, I so listen, I don’t expect, like I’ll, I’ll have a Coke I’m drinking or a Coke when I go out to have a Mexican, you know, of course
01:28:11:13 –> 01:28:13:05
Or something. I mean that’s
01:28:13:05 –> 01:28:15:07
What it belong. Coke and Mexican food belong
01:28:15:11 –> 01:28:33:09
Together. Yeah. Street tacos and a and a ice cold. Coca-Cola are like one of the greatest things they go together. Like a hand and a glove. Yes. Yeah. And so, you know, just having moderation, moderation and, and just knowing that hey look every once in a while to do something, that’s one thing. It’s when we do things six pack
01:28:33:17 –> 01:28:33:24
A day,
01:28:33:24 –> 01:28:35:22
Just to routinely do it, pound them outta
01:28:35:22 –> 01:28:37:06
Fridge. That’s just, that’s
01:28:37:07 –> 01:28:37:23
Feel guilty.
01:28:38:04 –> 01:29:09:04
That’s where you’re gonna have that, you know, those kidney issues and just not feeling good. Your lower back. It’s not even just your kidneys, it’s your whole lower back everything. And it’s just because your body’s going, wait, I don’t know. But if you do things in moderation and you have a, you know, a Coke or a diet Coke or whatever your deal is, you know, fine. That, that’s fine. But just in the main like start your day with something other than a synthetic, you know, like drink this, you know, and have, have this instead of your Diet Coke or whatever, your monster or whatever. And then well,
01:29:09:04 –> 01:29:17:23
And I’m wondering if that’ll affect your diet throughout the day too. They say Diet Coke, then all of a sudden you crave carbs the rest of the day. You know what I mean? Because Diet Coke does that. Hey, tell me wrong, you’re
01:29:17:25 –> 01:29:30:07
Actually, you’re actually, here’s the crazy thing. Am I wrong? No, you, this is the crazy thing. No one, my mom, she ever listens to this. I hope she doesn’t, but she is like a diet Coke. She drinks six, seven cans a day. Right. It
01:29:30:07 –> 01:29:32:00
Makes you feel good. There’s no calories and
01:29:32:03 –> 01:30:01:07
Oh yeah, Mike, there’s no, yes, but there’s aspartame is the sweetener. That is a neuro blocker. What that does is it tricks your body into thinking. So when then you eat other foods. So, okay, now I’m having this, you know, ice cream or bonbon or whatever. Right. Or even just a meal. Good. Yeah. It’s tricking your body doesn’t know that the drink that you just drank now, the food you’re eating, so it holds onto the fat. I quit drinking. My thing was Diet Mountain Dew. I was a DMD sucker. I drank Diet Mountain Dew. That
01:30:01:07 –> 01:30:02:01
Was, I like diet Coke.
01:30:02:12 –> 01:30:04:07
Diets pretty heavy. Diet Coke is okay.
01:30:04:12 –> 01:30:07:23
I mean, you’re 105 degrees in Nevada. It’s dust. Dusty cold. Whatcha are you gonna
01:30:08:08 –> 01:30:09:24
Ice cold Diet Coke, right? Oh,
01:30:10:06 –> 01:30:11:00
Crisp Don a choice. This
01:30:11:04 –> 01:30:15:01
On the back end. I’m with you. I mean, look, you’re getting me all excited now. I’m a diet
01:30:15:01 –> 01:30:17:19
Coke. I’ve, I’ve got of especially the first four ounces
01:30:17:19 –> 01:30:20:12
Especially, they make more every day and they’re in the fridge. But,
01:30:20:25 –> 01:30:58:04
But that’s the thing is I quit drinking Diet Mountain Dew. I lost 10 pounds in like two weeks just from, and I was drinking Diet, diet Mountain Dew zero calories. But it’s the aspartame and some of the other chemicals that they put in there. It tricks your body and so it hold when you eat other things, okay. That are fattening or that are, you know, heavy, then your body holds onto those calories and stores. ’em, like our bodies are the most complex intelligence, you know, organism ever. It’s like insane. They like, we think, okay, this is what’s running it. No, we actually, our gut is really what runs our body. It’s, it is insane. Like it’s anyway to
01:30:58:04 –> 01:30:59:07
Do this 10 day No, absolutely.
01:30:59:15 –> 01:31:00:17
Huh. This 10 day clean, hey,
01:31:00:17 –> 01:31:14:22
I’ll do it with you and we can all be accountable accountability partners. And you’ll feel great going into the hunts. Like, this is right now is the best time. Let’s, let’s get it through the 4th of July weekend. Oh. Because we all know we’re gonna barbecue. We’re gonna eat like a bunch of gluttons this weekend. We
01:31:14:22 –> 01:31:20:13
Can’t prep for this. July 5th. We start, wait, what’s Monday? Let’s July 7th. Is that
01:31:20:13 –> 01:31:29:03
Monday? Yeah, that’s Monday, right? Yep. Yeah. ’cause Friday’s the fourth, right? Yeah. So let’s get through this. Let’s all go eat and then eat, drink, and be mery as they say. And then
01:31:29:28 –> 01:31:32:00
Cleans. Then we start the cleanse. Am I, are you in?
01:31:32:27 –> 01:31:49:19
I don’t know that I can commit to this yet. Well, let’s start with a five day, if you can’t do the 10 day, but I mean, if you’re gonna do it, go. Yeah. Because at five days, that’s literally when you’ve, the first 72 hours, there’s always tough. Like that hard. It, it’s hard. ’cause your, your gut’s going. This, your body is first, you know, is you
01:31:49:19 –> 01:31:56:12
Got the hunger, pain, your body is finally, Hey, feed me, feed me, feed me. And hasn’t switched to the, I’m gonna start tapping in all my fat and everything
01:31:56:12 –> 01:32:05:06
Else. Yeah. You get into ke ketosis and then now you start eating your, you know, your body’s consuming that your body’s eating itself. Yeah. Yeah. You’re, you’re consuming your own fat cells and everything. If I
01:32:05:06 –> 01:32:11:24
Eat, if I do that before I go on a sheet hunt in three weeks, I’m gonna, I’m gonna die up there. I need some, like, I need some insulation.
01:32:11:24 –> 01:32:12:24
You’re gonna lose fat off your
01:32:12:24 –> 01:32:16:16
Brain. Oh, I know. I don’t need to lose. So I, I can’t. Okay. For that reason, I’m out.
01:32:16:25 –> 01:32:17:28
All right. I’m
01:32:17:28 –> 01:32:18:23
In. You sound like
01:32:19:16 –> 01:32:21:27
Shark. Yeah, shark. I’m in John. John,
01:32:22:16 –> 01:32:29:00
I’m in. I’m totally in five days. Five days. Let’s do the five days. And if it, if I hit day five, five through Friday, I’m gonna get excited about it. I’m gonna keep going. Yeah. I’m gonna keep going too.
01:32:29:03 –> 01:32:31:17
I’m gonna take those days off work. ’cause I don’t wanna work around you guys.
01:32:32:01 –> 01:32:50:03
So here’s a little cheat code to give you a cheat code. So, and then we will like start a group chat and we’ll like, we’ll stay and so we’ll go Monday the seventh through Friday the 12th. Right. Okay. And then Saturday, depending on how we all feel, go for it. Yeah. But here’s a little cheat coat. Sunflower seeds. Sunflower. So that’s not,
01:32:50:15 –> 01:32:51:29
I, I’ve been living on sun. I
01:32:51:29 –> 01:32:55:18
Don’t eat ’em, but I’ll put ’em in in, oh, I just put ’em in my check.
01:32:55:21 –> 01:32:56:05
You sodium
01:32:56:08 –> 01:32:58:29
Them out. Yeah. And it’s just sodium that you’re getting the
01:32:58:29 –> 01:33:00:03
Salt. So if you crack and eat ’em, that’s cheating.
01:33:00:12 –> 01:33:05:04
That’s cheating. If you, if you crack and eat them. But that’s the cheat code. A guy taught me this, you know, and your
01:33:05:12 –> 01:33:06:13
Ago your body feels like it’s eating
01:33:06:13 –> 01:33:08:25
Something. Yeah. ’cause you’re crunching on something that is Oh, you’re
01:33:08:25 –> 01:33:09:24
Chewing them. You gotta actually, well,
01:33:09:24 –> 01:33:12:19
You like, I’ll crunch ’em and then I’ll just, you know it with
01:33:12:19 –> 01:33:12:27
The seed
01:33:13:03 –> 01:33:18:12
And I spit the seed out at the same time. Everything. All right. But that way you feel like you’re doing something. ’cause that’s the hardest
01:33:18:12 –> 01:33:20:17
Man. You gets see salt or something outta that too, maybe. I don’t
01:33:20:17 –> 01:33:44:09
Know. Yeah, you get a little salt. But the biggest thing is that you’ll notice day two, day three, your body’s so used to chewing and like, you know, we eat, you know, it’s a big part of it. And that’s the thing that you’ll notice. And so having bubble gum or gum or whatever, and then sunflower seeds. But just don’t eat the seed. Just, you know, spit it out. Spit it out. But that, that was, that was a cheat code that guy taught me. Helped.
01:33:44:09 –> 01:33:44:25
Helped you get
01:33:44:25 –> 01:33:45:07
Through. Yeah.
01:33:45:10 –> 01:33:57:23
Why? I feel like, isn’t that what you might be going to lake power, so you might not have to witness. I feel like I should commit Archibald to this though. I feel like, well, they don’t, they once you’re, wait, he’s not here. What are they doing? Their big, like spartan race. Oh, it’s, it’s later
01:33:57:23 –> 01:34:00:09
The month. He’s good. Is he doing the one that’s the 13th through the
01:34:00:21 –> 01:34:03:28
Yeah, they can’t do that. Right. A week before that. The family fine. No, come on.
01:34:04:02 –> 01:34:04:13
It’s not
01:34:04:13 –> 01:34:04:23
The time.
01:34:05:01 –> 01:34:07:10
I’ve done lots of Spartan races. He’ll be fine.
01:34:08:11 –> 01:34:12:12
I think it’s that Saturday. You’d be get past that weekend and do it race Saturday.
01:34:12:17 –> 01:34:23:03
He’s out. He’ll be good. He’s out. So, so wait, I need some more specifics to do it. So maybe well, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll email recipe. So the recipe I’ll email you for how much of the cayenne and that to put together.
01:34:23:06 –> 01:34:24:24
I’ll tell you how much trying to use John.
01:34:27:00 –> 01:34:27:09
Yeah,
01:34:28:06 –> 01:34:28:17
Sure. You
01:34:29:19 –> 01:34:30:21
A tablespoon per
01:34:30:21 –> 01:34:48:13
Bottle of water for John. Just start us a group chat. So I need all that. Yeah. So, and we’ll, if you supply that for us, we’ll have Logan post it on our Instagram. And then anybody who wants to do the cleanse with us, they tag, you know, and say that they’re in as well. So can we, but we can drink this Apex stuff.
01:34:48:14 –> 01:34:50:28
Yeah. I’ll, I’m gonna drink the Apex stuff. Yeah, because that’s,
01:34:50:28 –> 01:34:51:07
That’s
01:34:51:07 –> 01:34:52:09
Gonna save me. That’s all good stuff.
01:34:52:19 –> 01:34:53:17
Is there calories on this?
01:34:53:25 –> 01:34:55:16
No, there’s like five calories. That’s
01:34:55:18 –> 01:34:55:24
Oh,
01:34:56:01 –> 01:34:57:13
And there’d be water in lemon water.
01:34:57:21 –> 01:34:59:19
I think there’s five, five calories and bubble gum. Yeah.
01:34:59:28 –> 01:35:01:03
10 sugar. There would be,
01:35:01:06 –> 01:35:04:17
Yeah, there is, there’s calorie just like chewing a bubble issues or
01:35:04:17 –> 01:35:07:00
Something. Take your extra and all that. The
01:35:08:08 –> 01:35:12:10
But no, I will drink this. This is the one sheet that we can, we can all have. Of course it
01:35:12:10 –> 01:35:14:01
Is yours. Well, you have to drink something. I
01:35:14:01 –> 01:35:16:05
Mean this the machine running. Running.
01:35:16:09 –> 01:35:18:27
We’re gonna call this the Apex body cleanse. Uhoh.
01:35:19:00 –> 01:35:28:28
And we’re gonna do it. Yeah, there we go. Yeah. I like it. All right. So, okay. I’ll email you all the specifics. You know the lemons, the cayenne and the maple syrup. Yes. So specific.
01:35:28:28 –> 01:35:29:17
I’m, we’re gonna
01:35:29:17 –> 01:35:43:10
Have large and small and that have never seen normalcy since we were babies. Hey, that, let’s call it the cake that’s on the outside edge. I’m just watching it disappear. Flake off this. You guys are
01:35:43:10 –> 01:35:44:15
Gonna be in disgust. Have you done it,
01:35:44:15 –> 01:35:48:00
Logan? I haven’t done it. No. Yeah, done. It’s gonna be great. I’ve, I’ve done two months of carnivore. He kid,
01:35:48:00 –> 01:35:50:22
That’s the close. The, he’s still got clean intestines because
01:35:50:22 –> 01:35:58:13
I’m not perfect at carnivore, but I try to eat like a pretty carnivorous, you know, diet. Just lots of meat, lots of proteins.
01:35:58:13 –> 01:36:02:10
It’s good. The best I ever felt was that two months I did it. I just, it’s expensive. It
01:36:02:10 –> 01:36:02:13
Is.
01:36:02:23 –> 01:36:03:23
It’s way too expensive. You
01:36:03:23 –> 01:36:12:03
Need an elk that you just put in the freezer. A load wild game. You can’t be out of meat and then do that and then go buy red meat.
01:36:12:20 –> 01:36:14:19
Bye man. I’ll go, I’ll go all 10 days on this.
01:36:14:29 –> 01:36:20:18
What what about, what about Carrizo? That’s probably pretty cheap. Chorizo, chorizo meat.
01:36:20:21 –> 01:36:23:03
You might as well eat a cup of cayenne and let’s
01:36:23:03 –> 01:36:25:15
Call it pretty cheap, cheap way to go for a college chip.
01:36:25:15 –> 01:36:28:03
Add some cinnamon right to it too. Geez. Chorizo.
01:36:28:03 –> 01:36:30:12
That’s the cheapest meat known to man. Spam. Hey,
01:36:30:15 –> 01:36:35:17
On your third day, Ooh, I don’t know. On your third day of straight ground beef for dinner and tuna for lunch. It, it gets rough.
01:36:35:27 –> 01:36:36:21
Tuna fish is pretty.
01:36:37:03 –> 01:36:38:07
I love tuna fish. I don’t since
01:36:38:18 –> 01:36:38:24
Day.
01:36:38:29 –> 01:36:40:10
I love tuna. Straight can of tuna.
01:36:40:12 –> 01:36:42:29
Since trail camera season started, I’ve lost eight pounds.
01:36:43:19 –> 01:36:46:06
Just, well, and having your wife has gone for
01:36:46:06 –> 01:36:59:00
A month. My wife’s, yeah. My wife’s like really, really good cook. But Sean’s been on own. Yeah. They were asking me, what do you eat? You know, when you run trail cameras? I’m like, I just buy a thing of lunch meat. And I just eat that. And apples and meat.
01:36:59:04 –> 01:36:59:17
Cheese.
01:36:59:20 –> 01:37:02:17
Cheese, lunch meat. Apples and bananas. Mine’s
01:37:02:17 –> 01:37:06:13
Kipper snacks. You guys ever eat kipper snacks or smoked oysters? That’s my smoke
01:37:06:13 –> 01:37:09:18
Oysters. That’s for backpacking. I mean, it’s, there’s nothing,
01:37:10:06 –> 01:37:11:15
Oh, I don’t eat kipper snacks.
01:37:11:18 –> 01:37:16:17
But go eat one at home today for it does nothing for you. They’re disgusting. Yeah, but when you’re out in the hills, there’s nothing.
01:37:16:18 –> 01:37:18:29
Oh, they are. I might grew up gross. I literally,
01:37:19:08 –> 01:37:20:00
You eat a kipper
01:37:20:07 –> 01:37:26:29
Day, I’ll eat a kipper snack. Not every day, but I’ll eat a kipper snack a week At least I buy, I buy ’em in the case at the grocery store. Really? Oh, I love ’em.
01:37:26:29 –> 01:37:30:06
You have the kinds of tomato sauce. ’cause when I was in BC once on a stone sheet,
01:37:30:12 –> 01:37:30:18
Yes.
01:37:30:21 –> 01:37:43:01
They gave us 10 cans of those in our food. They had, we had one a day and by day four or five, all I could could think about was what time of day am I going to eat that? I know today. ’cause that was the, it was like a ribeye. It was the tomato
01:37:43:04 –> 01:37:46:11
Sauce. But when you start out, they’re kind of disgusting. But by the end of it,
01:37:47:00 –> 01:37:48:04
After you’ve been there a while, and
01:37:48:04 –> 01:37:49:10
Then when you come home, go have one.
01:37:49:25 –> 01:37:50:09
I haven’t had one
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Since. Yeah, no.
01:37:52:03 –> 01:37:56:21
Oh, I love ’em. They’re 18 to, I think 18 or 20 grams of protein too. Like
01:37:56:21 –> 01:38:05:23
When you’re eating what I oil in there, A lot of energy. Not is, is You got the skeleton in there too. You know what I mean? Like, it’s kind of disgusting. Like, I like an oyster.
01:38:06:10 –> 01:38:11:07
Oh, I love oysters. I love oysters. Oh, so we’re doing this. They cleanse.
01:38:11:07 –> 01:38:13:25
We’re gonna start at Monday, the, the seventh certainty.
01:38:13:27 –> 01:38:14:07
And Jason,
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You’re in. Yeah, I’m in. All in. Yeah. Done. I’m in.
01:38:17:19 –> 01:38:21:11
How many days did you say I’m, how did you commit to Dave Jason? Five. Five.
01:38:21:12 –> 01:38:22:18
But I’d like to do 10. Yeah,
01:38:22:19 –> 01:38:23:23
I committed to five. We’ll
01:38:23:23 –> 01:38:29:23
See how this goes. I like mine intestine. It’s, I’m gonna say the light of day, but I want, they’re going, they’re gonna, they need to breathe, dude.
01:38:32:12 –> 01:38:32:27
Just go
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Do think about it. Next time you have your colonoscopy.
01:38:35:16 –> 01:38:36:21
What? You just
01:38:36:21 –> 01:38:37:17
Get the router going,
01:38:37:20 –> 01:38:39:11
Man. Had a colonoscopy. I know,
01:38:39:11 –> 01:38:40:27
But you did. That was four years ago.
01:38:40:29 –> 01:38:44:16
Yeah, though they’re gonna be shocked. Oh, they’re gonna say, here, drink this stuff and I’m gonna be like
01:38:45:05 –> 01:38:46:03
M scheduled. Yeah.
01:38:46:03 –> 01:38:51:27
We had to do our, we did ours. They said 45, the old new 50 and it, yeah. We’re, what do we have to do ours again? Next
01:38:51:27 –> 01:38:53:05
Year? Yeah, next year. Anyway.
01:38:53:05 –> 01:38:54:05
Yeah. I’m having my first
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And it was not as bad when they, they put you out. It was not as bad as everybody ever
01:38:58:18 –> 01:39:01:18
Complain. It’s just the worst part is the, the mi is before
01:39:02:07 –> 01:39:04:12
Terrible. What did they give you? Like a barium milkshake or something
01:39:05:06 –> 01:39:08:18
Nasty. You can put it in whatever liquid you want. Like I chose, it was fine.
01:39:08:18 –> 01:39:09:23
It was just like the dairy, dairy
01:39:10:04 –> 01:39:19:18
Gatorade drink. That is not fine. Like the problem is I take half as much as they tell you take half as much because truthfully, you don’t need it. You’re, you’re empty. You’re empty. And your body, I,
01:39:20:15 –> 01:39:23:17
I’m gonna drink the whole thing out because the people helping. You deserve to have a clean,
01:39:24:13 –> 01:39:33:06
So yes, that, but ask my wife. I got fevered. How should that fever you? Six hours. Hours. Give fever. I, I had a fever for four hours. Maybe
01:39:33:08 –> 01:39:34:13
You contracted something.
01:39:34:20 –> 01:39:41:29
No, I’m talking ax from that process. Yeah. I’m not talking after the procedure. I’m talking just the purging.
01:39:42:17 –> 01:39:45:15
This is disgust. That was a violent, this is a disgusting subject. Yeah.
01:39:45:25 –> 01:39:47:27
I don’t know how we got on it, but that’s a violent process.
01:39:47:27 –> 01:39:51:10
Other then I think we could have a colonoscopy on day 10. Let’s do this for day 10.
01:39:52:05 –> 01:39:52:13
Have
01:39:52:15 –> 01:39:53:03
You’ll be clean.
01:39:53:20 –> 01:39:57:21
We’ll be clean. And then any problems that they find, I might next year Real real.
01:39:57:22 –> 01:39:58:23
Maybe next year. Yeah.
01:39:58:26 –> 01:39:59:21
Yeah. You’ll be clean.
01:40:00:20 –> 01:40:00:29
This
01:40:00:29 –> 01:40:01:05
Is gonna
01:40:01:05 –> 01:40:02:19
Be fun. You’re gonna say, yeah, you got,
01:40:04:00 –> 01:40:10:15
I wanna be found dead out in Nevada because I’m a hundred, a hundred degree trail camera and I haven’t ate anything for five days. You know what I’m saying?
01:40:10:23 –> 01:40:11:23
Well, just don’t just plan
01:40:11:23 –> 01:40:12:21
Around. I don’t wanna die, Mike.
01:40:13:03 –> 01:40:16:03
I don’t want, I don’t want you to die either. And I would feel really bad if
01:40:16:03 –> 01:40:17:12
That. So we need to stay hydrated,
01:40:17:15 –> 01:40:18:21
I guess. Oh, you gotta stay hydrated.
01:40:18:21 –> 01:40:23:23
That’s all. Yeah. Well that’s not cheating. Yeah. This isn’t a fast. Yeah, this is not,
01:40:24:15 –> 01:40:24:28
It seems
01:40:25:06 –> 01:40:26:28
Fast. Oh, you’re drinking fast. All you want
01:40:27:00 –> 01:40:34:10
Fast. We’re you talking want Yeah, that’s fasting. When I go in for a fast. No, I’m talking this when I fast for, for a blood test. I know this. Not that I can drink water.
01:40:34:19 –> 01:40:36:00
Yeah, you can drink water. Yeah. Yeah.
01:40:36:00 –> 01:40:37:18
Well, I’m talking about have religious fast.
01:40:37:28 –> 01:40:39:23
Yes. That’s what I think you’re going after I
01:40:40:00 –> 01:40:47:11
Not doing that. Yeah, you’re not gonna die of of dehydration. You’re not going out for five days without liquid. Right. So you’re gonna be fine. Okay. No,
01:40:47:16 –> 01:40:49:18
No. How long can a human go without food?
01:40:49:19 –> 01:40:50:28
34, 37 days.
01:40:50:28 –> 01:40:52:28
Oh, you can go a long, you can go a long time.
01:40:53:03 –> 01:40:54:27
Your body concentration camp people,
01:40:55:15 –> 01:40:57:01
It’s water that you can’t go without.
01:40:57:12 –> 01:41:00:11
Okay. We’re in. We’re in. Okay. Okay. Wyatt, you’re in.
01:41:01:23 –> 01:41:02:21
I am not in Wyatt.
01:41:02:29 –> 01:41:04:25
I think you need to, I get hangry. So if anyone,
01:41:05:03 –> 01:41:07:12
There’s strength in numbers and Wyatt
01:41:07:12 –> 01:41:10:19
I think is going on to vacation that week with this family. And that’s not the time to be angry.
01:41:10:28 –> 01:41:11:27
Strength in numbers. Not
01:41:11:27 –> 01:41:12:01
Going to
01:41:12:27 –> 01:41:14:01
Ultimate Beach bod by the end of this.
01:41:14:27 –> 01:41:18:21
Are we ready for pals is what you’re saying? Oh, you’ll lose some weight. You’ll, you’ll lose some weight.
01:41:19:00 –> 01:41:19:28
10 pounds. I’ll bet.
01:41:20:17 –> 01:41:21:07
Yeah, you’ll probably,
01:41:21:09 –> 01:41:22:00
I’ll bet you lose
01:41:22:00 –> 01:41:25:04
10 pounds. At least 10. Yeah. At least. If not, maybe even a little bit more. And it’s
01:41:25:04 –> 01:41:27:12
Stuff you don’t want. Plus you’ll, you’ll lose some fat.
01:41:27:19 –> 01:41:29:05
Yeah, you’ll lose some fat because your
01:41:30:04 –> 01:41:31:11
Bowels. But then time.
01:41:31:26 –> 01:41:33:16
Okay. But like the last time I, I
01:41:33:16 –> 01:41:36:19
Wanna start it tomorrow. You got,
01:41:36:19 –> 01:41:39:06
What do you got this week? You got fourth.
01:41:39:18 –> 01:41:39:28
We got
01:41:39:28 –> 01:41:43:22
Family burger, barbecue, hot Dogs, watermelon.
01:41:44:03 –> 01:41:47:25
The 4th of July. I mean, and you’re an American. If you’re on a, if you’re fasting, you got problems.
01:41:48:19 –> 01:41:48:28
Like
01:41:49:03 –> 01:41:49:23
That’s why this
01:41:49:23 –> 01:41:50:07
Starts after.
01:41:50:19 –> 01:41:52:11
Yeah. We gotta start Monday afterwards.
01:41:52:11 –> 01:41:54:29
What? Good luck Or Devin, good luck cleaning up all
01:41:54:29 –> 01:42:02:28
This. Let’s go back to, let’s go back to this website. We’re gonna have to order some of this, John. Oh yeah. Apex. Apex Next. Evolution. evolution.com. Okay. Type
01:42:03:05 –> 01:42:03:13
What?
01:42:03:25 –> 01:42:05:07
Recover Epic 25 or just
01:42:05:14 –> 01:42:09:18
Epic 25 at the is the pro checkout. Yep. And you’ll get 25% off. That’s
01:42:09:18 –> 01:42:10:15
Awesome. That’s a great deal.
01:42:10:20 –> 01:42:14:00
So yeah, we appreciate you guys, the community, so thank you. Yeah,
01:42:14:08 –> 01:42:14:21
Thanks
01:42:14:23 –> 01:42:18:27
A lot, Mike. All right. Well it’s been fun. We appreciate it. We’ve learned a lot. Yeah. Right.
01:42:19:09 –> 01:42:19:21
We have.
01:42:20:01 –> 01:42:26:25
Yep. Dug into some person lives, right? Wyatt, Logan, we got personal. Logan’s gotta learn how to ride. Ride a dirt bike a little better.
01:42:27:03 –> 01:42:27:27
I do. I need to get better.
01:42:28:29 –> 01:42:29:07
Okay.
01:42:29:14 –> 01:42:31:09
Hey, we all gotta get better at something, right? That’s right.
01:42:31:12 –> 01:42:32:17
Thank goodness for helmets. Good
01:42:32:17 –> 01:42:36:07
Thing you’re not perfect. Yeah, that’s right. All right. Okay. There you go. All right everybody.
01:42:36:17 –> 01:42:37:00
Thank you.
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