Reports from the early hunting seasons have started to come in and the Epic Outdoors Crew talks about the state of elk hunting across the West. We also get the story on Devin Archibald’s New Mexico archery bull that he harvested just last week. We also call Paul Marshall and talk with him about his successful Nevada muzzleloader Mule deer hunt.
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Hey everybody. Jason Carter, Adam Bronson, and some of the epic outdoors crew here in southern Utah. I got everybody in the office somewhat here on a Monday. Right? We got Devin. How you doing Devin?
I’m great.
Got a bull in the cooler. Yeah, we’re gonna talk about that, huh? Yeah. Yeah.
He is bringing in the
Cooler. Delivered it. It’s always a good feeling
When they’re in the
Cooler. Yeah, it’s awesome. In the
Cooler and ivory’s in the salt.
Thanks to Ashley. Yeah.
For beating me
In the wee hours of the
Night. She cuts me out meat. She cuts me. Except for she won’t cut ours. We had to do our own. She’s the one that knows, has all the knowledge. What? How you doing? I’m doing
Good. So yeah.
Hunts are moving along.
Yeah. In full swing.
Yeah. Do
You say you’re, you’re moving along. What’d you say?
He’s hobbling.
Hobbling along today.
Damnit. Ouch. Sorry. Geez. Oh, would you like to define that a little bit while Well, we take a tumble for the worst.
I’ll be back. I’ll be back. Don’t worry. What is that? What did I miss?
Oh, there’s another story I guess might come up.
It’s not much of a story. I mean, I don’t, tea kettles and stuff. The muscle or something in my leg and it’s been bothering me. Really? Yeah. Back quad or hammi. Which side? It’s on the left side. Interior part of my upper thigh. All the groin. Groin. I don’t, it’s probably lower than a groin I would imagine. But I don’t know. Maybe it runs all the way down there. I don’t care. I
Don’t Well, will you chat GPT with a, where does the groin stop and start?
Okay, let, let’s not, if it’s halfway between the knee and the hip socket and below that it’s, no, its, we should get you doing
Some stretches in here. We,
I probably should be maybe a ThighMaster. When’s
The last time you stretched
A ThighMaster? Why? It’s over there. It’s been a while doing ThighMaster
Gym.
Oh, oh
Five. Yeah.
Oh boy. Here
We go. What do we got?
Lower abdomen meets the upper inner thigh.
That’s the groin in your lower abdomen, huh? Yeah.
That’s nowhere mean we’re down, but more by the knee. Okay.
Oh really? Yeah.
And so it’s a inner quad muscle maybe, huh? Yeah. Inter
Inner. Did it have something to do with sleeping in the back of your truck or is it more because of hiking? It
Could have done both. I don’t know. Or your curl did a fair share of both this week.
You know what helps older guys? Pillow between their knees. Is that
What it is?
You might try that this next go around Wyatt, when you get old. Simple that Adam and I, Adam and I have got some go-to little hints to help you. I’ve never slept
That way in my life.
Wt they make these really long pregnancy pillows. You can
Just, yeah, they’re
Long and big body pillow and just, yeah, cuddle up with it. My canvas cutter.
Hey, laugh if you want. Might be, might help you get the best night’s sleep you’ve ever had.
It might, maybe, I’ll
Consider it. Double pad, regular pad. And then also you canvas cutter
Pad. Probably can use a little thicker pad too. I mean that
Four inch memory foam on the bed of the truck. I mean
It gets old
Cold blue steel. Yeah, no
Doubt about it. So anyway. Logan, how are you doing?
Doing good.
Good. Helped your dad, Logan. You got,
You got bloody over the weekend.
Yep. Yep. Dad killed the buck. It was awesome. And now we’re on elk. So did
You ever get tired of helping your dad?
Yes. It would be nice to have the help reciprocate back at times. Yeah, but I think we’re getting there. I told him, are you, I told him he is not allowed to draw a tag next year. So we’ll see how that goes. Yeah. But no, it’s been fun. It’s been an awesome year. I learned a lot.
Yeah. Yeah.
Place. I’ve never been really So kick my butt for a long time. Did
The gas money ever run out?
No. No. You know what? It’s crazy.
Was an unlimited fund there.
It it was, yeah. He just basically gave me car launch on a gas card and Wow. Said, go find me a deer. Wow. It was great. That’s good. I haven’t paid for gas in months.
Yeah. Did you pay, how about mileage? Did he reimburse you for mileage? He
Hasn’t. I’m hoping that I get somes.
He got the best of you. He triple per diem going off. That sounds like a good dad deal. Hope
If you kept a little yellow pad with all the days now.
Yeah, that’s right. Somebody owes you some money.
I’ll get it out of them one way or another.
That’s good stuff. All right, so where are we at today guys? We’re gonna, we gotta talk about some things. Bronson, what do you, what should we be talking about? I
Don’t know. Hunt’s on, we’ll get some stories in a minute, but maybe just a quick overview. What’s going on, Wyatt, in the application world as far as Arizona, I guess opened up for turkeys and IES and bison. Bison, yep. So that’s, that’s up and going. Is there any like pheasant and sandhill crane lumped into that or any weird stuff? Jason?
I would know about that. Swan. We do apply. I about Arizona,
But Sandy crane
And on this go around.
I don’t think this will go around the
Next one. No.
Okay. Well, or the, I say that couple from now. Yeah. Previous one. Kinda interesting. You’re applying for turkeys in September for next, next April May. Well that’s
A big deal. It’s a lot of points associated. Maybe I’ll apply for Sandhill Crane. You should really Guy like you. Orx hunter.
Hey, when does that start? December next week. Oh, I thought you had October.
These are the things that Adam and I have been talking about. Wow. The state of the nation address with deer, elk, things like that. Why not? Why not do weird stuff?
Weird stuff.
Like what you’re talking about. You know what I mean? Cranes and orx. Yeah. What else? That’s right. I mean bears. I’m out Lions. Yeah. There’s a lot
I could be in.
I There was a lot of ’em. Yeah. Yeah.
Cut Lion track out in sheep country this last weekend. Same canon we killed around. Yeah.
That’s
Crazy. It’s fresh. Hot.
Wow. Yeah.
Probably jumped it. It was probably trying to snack on a lamb
Right there. Well, in sheep or so dumb. They’d be like, what’s that? I walk up
Anyway.
Just rub, rub nose, rub noses. Make a
Little noise. One
Of ’em could wipe out a whole hundred. A hundred. There’s like one water source within five miles. Any direction. So it’s like, yeah. Not too hard to lay in the weeds.
It’s gonna eat what it wants. Yeah. Pretty awesome. But there’s a lot going on out there. We actually had a guy stop in, a member stop in and killed a great bull.
Yeah.
Up on the penguin. Really cool. Heavy sucker. Just awesome. But anyway, the elk hunts are going crazy. We’re seeing, I mean it’s, what do
You mean by going crazy? Well,
Just meaning like
They’re in full swing.
Full swing in Allstate. Like where’s their state doesn’t have an,
We could left word off. Crazy. Just said the outcomes are going on.
They’re going on, but are a little bit
Not like crazy.
It seems a little bit tough, right? That’s what what? What do you What what?
Go ahead. I mean if, okay, go ahead. Let’s just, let’s
Does better
Seen where we at. Does anybody felt like the lack of jubilation, exuberating, you know, pitchers, all that seems, there was a few good
Bulls in Utah, but it was kind of tough, eh?
Yeah. It kinda seemed like the rut was off to a kind of a slower start. Well,
Yeah, they killed some, the, the biggest bulls were killed the first week of the archery when, you know, hunting a Mike deer basically. Yeah. And then it’s been pretty tough since. Yeah. I don’t know how it been in New Mexico. We’ll get that update here in a minute from,
We got a Wyoming update too. How’d that go, Devin?
He’s not done yet. That’s a 30 day
Season. Still messing with the, yeah.
Letting
It, letting pondering, letting
The rut rip. Still
Pondering 14 hour drive.
Yes. It’s no joke.
You got those same types of pondering.
It’s makes a man outta you. It’s, yeah. How bad do you want it?
Or when you decide to leave and then you, you 10 hours in, you’re like 10. Should I have left? Yes. And then
You should. Maybe
I shouldn’t, but yes. I, I should have.
You should always ask me. ’cause the answer’s always yes. You’re doing a good thing. If I’d have had
Service, I need starlink or something.
Starlink is no joke. Anybody out there that doesn’t have it go, go get it.
Oh, Jason, he’s a distributor now.
Yeah. I’ve just been it
Off. You get, you’ll get it your first month. Free. What is it? Why that we get, oh, I,
I don’t know. I had text message saying, you get the first month free if you refer a friend, kind of
Refer.
Oh, no wonder. Everybody’s been trying to get me to do it. It’s
Kinda like our membership drive.
Yeah. Refer a friend,
Get in free ticket.
Get in. That’s right. By the way, we’re running it.
Why? It’s really been pushed me to get starlink. That makes sense. Well I just
Want talk to you. I want an update. I mean, Archibald wants
To stay in touch with you actually got some voicemails from
Wyatt Arch. Yeah. Which is rare.
Which is rare. And I was, made
Me happy. But arch balls over there, like I don’t have very good service. And I’m thinking you need starlink guy.
Yeah, I would. I would be in my tent and all of a sudden my phone, I just boom, boom, boom. I’d get service and then nothing for hours.
That’s crazy.
I like little updates outta arch. He just likes to go dark. It’s kind of hard.
Get in touch with, it was good last week hitting, hitting Wyatt and getting response knowing he was in the boonies and he was still replying.
But you had a lot of service.
I did. I did have service where I was did, I did turn it on at time. So did you?
Yeah. Yeah. Pretty awesome. Anyway, so this mobile star link that goes in your truck.
Yeah.
It’s awesome. Pretty incredible works
While you’re driving around.
Do you guys have the adapter that goes on the top that you just pop it into No,
No dash. I just throw it on the dash. Just
Throw it on the dash. Oh.
If you got a sunroof, you can just slide the sunroof slider and shove it in there and close it up. It’s better. So what you have, yeah. It’s better than any amount they come up with.
Well,
No rattle, no nothing.
Logan told me to get it and I’m not gonna give him credit for why. I got it. I
Have Bluetooth on my truck,
My other friend’s credit. Anybody
Else credit me? No,
It sucks.
You do see ’em a lot more once you know what to look for. I mean, it seems like a lot of people are running them.
Yeah, a lot of hunters and stuff. Nonstop service, being able to talk and anyway, again, another one of those things that kill deer, kill sheep, kill elk. You know what I mean? Immediate responses, visits.
Video. Video clip,
Video clips. I sent Bronson video clips
Of what? Jason stuff.
Janice sheep stuff. I mean, you know. That’s right. Yeah. It’s nice to be able to know you are, yeah. Wherever you are. We’re like, what do you think? Yeah.
Now I know if I call Wyatt and he doesn’t answer that.
Oh he’s, he’s, that’s a choice. Straight up screening your
Car. Yeah, he’s swiping by. But
He answered he, he answered. He’s like, hello?
That
I was out on a ridge glassing.
Yeah, it’s kind.
So you didn’t even need it then. I didn’t even need it. It was back of your truck and you’re up. It was. It’s always in
The truck. So you can’t say, oh, I imagine
You have like a backpack battery.
If you had a horse. Solar
Panels.
Solar. I thought
Wyatt does not like to miss much.
Not that dedicated to it.
You thought? Yeah, I was gonna say, you thought Wyatt was on top of stuff before.
Geez. We ain’t missing anything. No, he’s good at it. That’s why
I, I’ve thrown out a couple things I saw over the weekend. I’m surprised why it said he didn’t see it. That shocked me.
Yeah.
That shocked me about certain this or that, that got killed here or there. And surprised me. Yeah. It’s pretty, pretty dialed. You don’t tell Wyatt new news very often. No.
It’s
Pretty good in the hunting world. No, you don’t. It’s
He’s, he’s good at what he does. I think sometimes he’s staying on top of some
Stuff. I think sometimes he just pretends he doesn’t know. It’ll make you feel good about showing him info. Maybe gets a different angle from you than he’s heard in reality. But I don’t think it’s ever surprising him.
Anyway, so let’s see. All right, so what are we gonna, what are we gonna talk about? We do have some hunts we’re giving away. Pretty awesome. Yeah. An awesome lineup of hunts.
Yeah. That deadline. Well what third? Yeah. Third or fourth. November 3rd.
November 3rd. An odd day. Yeah,
I think it’s a Monday. It’s just, we usually
Very short time.
We usually do that while we’re here in the office. ’cause we realize we’ve done ’em in the past years ago on a Saturday or Sunday. And realize if somebody’s got problems with the internet or Yeah. Where they’re at. Pick up, give a call.
Yep. We’re giving a Yukon doll Sheep hunt away. And Nevada Mule Deer hunt. Flat rock Outfitters includes landowner tag as well as a couple of Utah antelope tags. Just awesome. Little bit, little lineup of hunts. We’re gonna do it somewhat on a regular basis anyway. One ticket for 30 bucks, five for 1 25, 10 for two 50 and 30 for 500. Go to epic outdoors.com to get in. Again. Very short application period. Extremely short. All these hunts take place in 2026. Just kind of a a bonus fall giveaway.
Some fun to do.
Yeah. Pretty awesome.
Simple as that. Yeah. Back to that Arizona thing, what we joked around, what’s the deadline? October 7th, right? Seventh. Yes. Seventh for
The
Bison, heavy Turkey, whatever, whatnot. So anyway, other than that, I mean, what
Were you looking up there?
There’s still some points. The best
Halina, we don’t have
Have Halina unit rankings on our Epic website. Course not. And I think that that’s travesty and I’m just trying to apply
That. Logan, why don’t you take that on and report back to us and tell us what you think the top, do
You want me to be the official Epic halina consultant? Yeah.
All, all the calls we
Ever get. I think your dad and I went down there and it
Snowed. You were there too. And yeah, Colton too. Don’t
You think all the calls we ever get here, we should send to Logan. Yeah.
For
Helina.
Yeah. Tell me what unit to put in for and I’ll, I’ll take all the calls after I’m experienced.
Okay. I’ll get with there.
With, get with us after. Okay. Because there’s, they’re now accepted by Boone Crockett and it’s a big deal. Which unit you want. You actually
Begs the question, Wyatt, as an official score, have you been sent an official score sheet yet? And, and know what the minimums are. I for Pope and Young or BNC saw that they come out with some information on it. I can’t remember if there was a score sheet included. Is it
Copy a length
And width? Length, width, lines and bears. Are they gonna measure the tusks too and add those? No, it’s just a length and width right there. They’ve actually, Logan’s got it pulled up there. 14 and five Sixteenths is both the awards and all time. It looks like five sixteenths giant yeahs. It’s gotta be over, over a
Quarter awards all time because there’s no precedent set.
So it’s gotta be over a quarter. Like where did that you measure all schools in sixteenths. I know, but like, you don’t have a, a minimum at a five 16th. It’s like a round number most of the time. Like Mountain goats 50. Yeah, it’s not 49. And I feel like 13 16th. 14 and a half. Or a quarter. Or a quarter. Well it’s a one 16th over a quarter. Right? Well we’re
There’s definitely experts in out there. And that’s not us
Obviously. I mean that’s just an interesting why Name another one that is such an odd number. Greatest life. I know we measure them without the lower job, but name one that an official entry in the book is on a really odd five 16 like that. I I believe Kos I think that’d be Lions and Bears. Lions 15 Bear 21. I think there’s, they’re round. Are they all round? Well, bear Poppen Young’s 18 on a Bear. I think BNCs 21 Lion is 15. They might be a very specific size that,
Geez. For a consistent size. Adam, how do you know all this? Like what
Adam Cougar? Your awards is gonna be changed too, right there. You just had it pulled up there. It’s just as, just like you said Jason, there’s a lot of exciting halina enthusiast that put their, that that that a quarter wasn’t good enough. It needed to be a Fi five 16.
Is that 14 and eight? 16. So 14 and a half. Is that, I can’t
Tell what that
Is. It’s not, that’s a half, at least
Five 16th. That looks like an eight. They’re stingy with the mountain line ones. Yeah, they’re, they don’t want you to see ’em. You’re in the wrong Cougar and Jaguar.
All right. Well anyway, just seems like most of ’em like mule deer one 90 and two 30. What? Yeah. What else? I mean Elk two 60 and 3 75 right?
Well I think it should be one 90 and an eighth. You know how many one 90 evens are in there? How does that happen? Go ahead. Go ahead Bronson. What do you say? Two 30 evens.
Lot of, a lot of stuff gets
A lot of manipulating on the, on the back end. No, it doesn’t happen. Come on.
Possibly there’s no 180 1, 1 90 can imagine
That. Imagine I’d still be happy if I kill a 2 29 and seven eights. But
Yeah, let me kill one of them right now. It’s hard right now. Oh yeah.
You ever measured a 2 29 and seven?
I’ve measured some that have barely missed the book. Yeah. Have you? Yeah.
You feel like a Hillel?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don’t you?
It doesn’t make you feel very good, I guess.
No, they’re not often to buy you dinner. Have to
Have to break the news to ’em. Yeah. We missed it by three eight of an inch. But nothing. I
Do have to, especially when they thought they killed a 2 38 bucks.
Yeah, that’s happened too before.
It should. It should’ve been well within the book. Wyatt, how’d this get beat down? They’re
Already, they’re already taking, you know, glamor shots with their belt buckle that they won.
Yes. It was silver. Know what I mean? Turn to turn to bronze anyway. To silver. Turn to bronze. Alright, moving right along. So let’s, let’s talk about the elk.
Yeah. Devin.
Devin. Devin, you smashed a bull. We’re gonna get straight up to it. Yeah. Not, not on an easy year. Like overall
You had a second season right? Set.
15th to the 24th set.
Set us. I started the 17th
For the New Mexico report. Yeah.
So I, I applied with one of our outfitters in the guide draw. Got lucky.
Okay. I think
I had three point half percent odds
Or something. Is there anybody that gets luckier than Devon?
Devon, draw some
Tags.
I’m serious.
You gotta apply it. It’s not like the best year
First you serve. I mean, they stopped the whole, they did the whole resident, non-resident thing because of you.
I stayed up all
Night and Wyatt.
That’s what you said. Maybe me.
You got one.
Maybe me.
We hit it hard. Archery. You can’t, I got an archery. You can’t call that luck when Wyatt’s waking up at 3:00 AM I’m staying up all night. We hit it hard, man. You guys were,
Were you in your twenties that year? No. Still? No.
I’ve been in my twenties in a, oh, come on. Well that’s
Good. How old are you? That’s
Been four or five years ago. Have
To, I’m gonna be 37.
Do I have to go to your Facebook profile? You will not be
47. I’m gonna be 37.
Okay. I’m like, do I need to go look up your birthday and your Facebook profile?
The fact that you even thought that I’m
Yeah, I’m concerned.
37.
Hey, I got called 50 twice in Alaska. So That’s right.
What By who? Yeah.
So who was that guy? By who? Yeah. I remember that.
Was that offensive? Was it by one of the locals?
It kind of was offensive a
Little bit. He was offended. It was, what did they
Say was
The bio local
Stewed on it for a while. Why Anchorage? Why would
You care what they
Say? Did they call you 50 year? Hey, 50-year-old or just, Hey, old timer. What’d they call you? No.
Well no. It was like I was
Sitting there at the dinner table and my kid sent me a snap. I, my wife sent me a Snapchat of my kid. Okay. And I was looking at it and she looked over at my phone. It says, what’d she say? You have Snapchat. What are you like 50.
Oh, and she’s your waitress?
No, she was the other guy. So we, we’d met up with a group of people in traveling Alaska that who worked for the outfit we were with up there. Okay. So
Just a friend of a friend.
A friend of a friend kind of deal. And he had his wife and kids at dinner with us. And I was just,
You don’t think much of her anymore.
Wow. You have Snapchat? What are you like 50? Are you
Like 50?
That is funny.
Yeah, it was.
It hurt.
Yeah. And by the way, I have starlink too. Do you got that? Dude,
It’s,
It stung a bit. Wow.
Yeah.
So
Ouch. She knows how to really hurt a guy. Yeah.
Kneecap stuff right there.
Yeah. So I had to come home. Trim, trim the beard up a bit, you know, get a little bit shorter. Closer to the face. Did
You
Yeah. Try to look a little bit younger. Do a
Little comb in brown.
I
Didn’t, didn’t go that far. No. Just for man.
All right.
Well where, how’d we get on that subject? But anyway, yeah.
So there you are. Your 37-year-old, old young, strapping
Man. Start New Mexico. New Mexico. New Mexico.
Three, 3%
Percent. Three and a half or something percent chance does this happen? It’s not even that good of a, it’s not like a talk. No, I know. It was my third choice. Well,
We, we
Preached that. I was excited. Yeah, yeah. Preach
That. But you take 15 other units other than that. Oh yeah, for sure. That, for that was just one to go. Yeah.
Yeah. But yeah, so I started, I I didn’t hunt the first two days ’cause I thought I was gonna be somewhere else, which didn’t end up panning out. And so yeah, I went down on the 17th and I killed Saturday.
It’s pretty crazy. The 20th. But it was so, it was a fast kill. Like on paper you’d be like, great, great hunt. It was, it was a great hunt.
Yeah. So me and my, my dad went with me. He was, he wanted to go on another elk hunt with me. And I called him. I said, there’s really not, I don’t think I’m gonna be here more than another day. And he was pretty, he was ready. He’s been ready to go. So we, we went down there. We’re setting up camp and you know when the guy draw, you can’t hunt without a guide. Yeah. At least for your and my guy show
Legally.
Legally. Yeah. So my guy was showing up that night or early in the morning to hunt the next day. And this we’re setting up camp and this bull is cranking right down the draw from camp. And we’re just like, this is gonna be incredible torture. Sure. We pick a random place to camp. Like we don’t, we’ve never been there. We don’t really know. Anyways, that was the only bull we heard for the next 48 hours. I think we might have heard one squeak the next afternoon or the next morning. But yeah, it was pretty slow. Got tough
For a
Little bit. It was tough. And I hunted Thursday morning in this, in this spot. And then I heard one bull bugle three times. I mean that’s, that’s all you got. Yeah, that’s all I had. Yeah. And then I went back Friday ’cause I wanted to be closer to where that bull was at in the dark. And me and my dad go in there and it was just dead quiet on fire. They were cranking. How
Does this happen overnight? Generally it takes a cold snap or
It, it was supposed to rain on Friday. They, when I looked at the weather and it was kind of cloudy, but it didn’t,
Temperature didn’t
Change. They felt something though. It was something with the weather,
The barometric pressure or something they felt.
So I think I drew, I drew back on one bull, let him go. And I, I didn’t, I mean three others within 40 yards. I didn’t kill just bulls. Yeah. Six points. Just, just little five or six points.
Five. Yeah. And it’s not like you’re being like extremely picky. ’cause it’s a, it’s a tough year. B you’re not, yeah.
You don’t go here to, you’re not kill a I mean we,
You’re not, you’re not holding out for a three 70 bull. No,
No. I’m not passing bulls expecting to kill a giant.
But, but, but any of the units, you could kill a three 50 bull or something like that. Yeah, it could not. You know.
Yeah. My brothers found one the morning I killed. They were further away and it was probably three 40 kind of Really? Wow. Dumber than crap side of the road. You could have killed it. Yeah. Is that the day you killed? Yeah.
Are you like, duh,
I like the boy I killed. I’m good with it. Yes.
Cool.
Really cool.
So through that it Friday. So what happens? So I get sucked into this nasty, you know how elk do that? They’re just crazy. And you like,
We’re going down in there
Nasty. It’s an easy go down. And
I’m like, I’m gonna go 50 yards maybe I’ll see him and he is cranking again. I’m like, ah, just to that tree. Next thing you know, you’re in the bottom. Yeah, yeah. You know. And anyways, chase bulls till 11, 11 30 noon. Wow. Wow. It was, it was fun. Those
Days go quick. They’re
Not. They
Do, man. What? So how’d the routine go? Were you calling? What were you doing? A lot of people don’t, like, I don’t just like slip if they’re talking, they want to just get between,
I called in like there was bulls alone that were moving and I was cutting ’em off. And if I felt like they were gonna get past me, I’d cow call. And I called one in that way. But for the most part I was just silent. Yeah. They, they were doing all the talking and I didn’t need to let ’em know I was even there. But the wind was just, that was one of those days too. Friday was every ti didn’t matter what I did, the wind was bad. Oh. Hate. Like I left bulls. ’cause the wind go over here and it’s going up the, the total opposite way. Like I, all the time you went, I could not beat the wind that day. Yeah. Out. Which just, it was just weird.
Did you stay in that canyon all day and hunt that night?
No, I had there till like noon. They, they moved, got kind of windy and they all shut up and I could hear, I thought I heard another hunter down there just out there late, you know. So I got out and then little PVC pipe sound. Trying think that night. What’d we do that night?
Ate dinner.
Oh. I went to another spot that some that Eric, the guy, the, the guide. Yeah. Saw a big bull. Did he? Yeah, he, and it was with another bull. So I, I hunted, I, I saw three bulls together and he saw three bulls together that same morning. They were still together, but kind of talking. Yeah. He had, he had a pair of ’em that went into some pines. And so I sat in there and nothing.
This is like the 19th September.
Yeah, that was the 19th. Next morning go back to the same spot hunt on Friday and hear one bull go over there. And he was just a five point, but he had like 10 cows let him go kind of. He was, I had him at like 70 yards, just saw him and like, oh, let’s keep going, you know, go to the next one. And the next one was probably, I don’t know, 500 yards away. And we, we actually like, kind of booed past him for the wind. And Eric was with me and we, we circled, as soon as we got that wind right, he was about to go off this rim. And he cow called and he just fired back. Just growl or just, you know, just how, just, it’s exactly what you want.
So he’s probably alone when
He’s coming. So I put you in there. Yeah. I get, I know he is gonna probably go this way to the wind wall, but I had a lane to my left and right. And sure enough dude come through this big snag, lose his head back. And all I saw was like, he’s a good looking bull. Like he’s heavy. You know what I mean? I didn’t see he had a little, what’d you, you didn’t The cheaters two. All of his cheaters. I didn’t see a
Cheater and a, a weird beam devil. It’s like six inch.
It didn’t matter. And he came, he came through and I arranged this tree and just, it was just classic man. Drew, drew while he went behind the tree. As soon as he came out the other side, I stopped him. And what
Was it, what was it? Yards like
37 yards flop. Double long. Just, I actually hit him in the heart. You did?
Wow. Arm pitted.
Well the funny thing is, is so I shoot and I was like, ah, well
Was he perfectly
Outside? Half his half his body was like covered by some oak leaves or something. Oak leaves. And I remember thinking like, just put it on. ’cause your arc, you know it’s an arc. Yeah. And it just tucked right in there. But I was like, ah, it might have been low. ’cause I, I couldn’t see where when it hit, you know, ’cause the leaves, you heard it? Oh yeah, I saw it. And then I saw he, I saw him snap it off when he turned it about he, he snapped off like eight inches. But go over there and you know, you, we wait a little while and then I walk like 10, 20 yards and it’s just like one spec here, one spec
There. Like, oh geez.
And I’m like, like it’s, I don’t know, it felt good, but you doubt yourself, you know? So I, I probably went 50 yards, maybe 60 yards on his, his track on track. Found a shade spot, sat down for 45 minutes. I stand
Up. Was he alone or was he there with you? Yeah. Your dad too
Or? Yeah, we were texting him, telling him to head our way, you know what I mean? And satellite text. By the way, I didn’t even need starlink. Yeah. Forgot the game bags. But anyways, sat there for 45 minutes. I stand up, I go look at the track, I look over and he’s laying there dead. He didn’t even go a hundred yards. Oh wow. Didn’t go hundred. It was awesome. He was that close to falling off in the absolute abyss of a like rolling type canyon. But yeah, it was fun. Just a classic call in a bull smash. I don’t know, like arm pit. I’ve had that happen. But I, I passed him like on on really good units, really good tags that I was really picky and yeah. I went home without a bull. Yeah. Or sick of that. The one bull I killed like stalked him like a deer. Just, yeah. You know what I mean? He was betted snuck in there when he stood up. I shot him. Just not a classic. Just like you would see on tv. Yeah. Slam dunk. But it was fun. I had a lot of fun. That’s awesome. Yeah. Old sucker size teeth. I showed you a picture. Yeah.
Yeah. The first picture I got was the upper jaw of an elk’s roof of his
Mouth. And
They’re disgusting.
They are. It’s kind of, usually there’s grass. I just usually
To send that as the first picture.
So thought that would would come together. Oh, that was
The first, you say there was water everywhere And it probably created
Everywhere. Everywhere.
Feed everywhere
Been raining. You mean little
Different than summer? Yeah, this is hike. We were at 9,000 feet. Mm. Yeah. But it was also puddles.
Late summer rains. I don’t know what it was like in, yeah, it looked June, but
Awesome experience. You’d do it again.
I would do it again. Yeah. Just some fun, fun elk hunt.
That’s the thing about New Mexico is you’re never burning points trying to get X out of your points. You know, I gotta milk all the trophy potential outta my points or it was a waste of 10, 15, 20 plus years. It’s never that. That’s
Right. Yeah.
If you’re hungry, you’re hungrier for hungrier for a tag. I mean it’s hard to say three and a half percent. You got real aggressive. That’s still a pretty tough odds. But, but you know what I mean?
I could be wrong, but I thought that’s what it was in my mind. But I’ll have to look it up.
Whatever it was, it wasn’t 10%.
Yeah.
And you know what’s crazy? The thing I really liked, I saw two hunters the entire time.
That’s what gives
Where they hunt elk or deer? No,
I saw two other hunters. They were elk deer. Well yeah, no, they were hunting elk.
But that country’s giant.
I didn’t see one camp with hunters in it that I was like, for sure. Those are hunters. They were mostly just families and people camping or whatever.
It’s a popular place to
Just go. I mean the, the the where I went, I was walking down a road, it wasn’t even closed. There hadn’t been a, a truck on it or anything for weeks.
It wasn’t even a closed road.
Nope. Wide open forest service main road. And you, I just walk it and call bulls. And
That’s why they call it the land of Enchanter.
It was cool. I don’t know.
Were you in the right unit? Did
That ever crush your mind? I might’ve just been lucky or like
Somebody. You’re Matt. Either The season’s not on my
Counters off. Oh, my dad said straight up. He’s like, Devin, are you sure this hunt’s going on? ’cause there’s nobody here. I’m like, you’re right. But yes, it’s the same every year. 15th and 24th. Yeah, it was fun. Pretty cool. All my brothers were there. They came the next day. So it was fun to have two of my brothers there and my dad did
Cut him up. They came the next day?
No, they were there the day before. Oh, okay. They were there. That’s what I meant. Yeah. Okay. They were
Just, did you cut him up right then and quarter quarter him out or drive to him or
What? You have a hard pack. Four pack.
We just quarter him and here he go. We brother. And they’d walk to the truck about 200 yards. A hundred.
Oh man. That’s
Awesome. But I’m telling you there are
Some of, there’s a lot of
That. If he would’ve, if he, he would’ve had a little bit more life. We’d have been there a long time. Yeah.
He had made up some hurry up. Lucky downhill and lucky died.
Back up. Perfect
Spot. Did you take some pictures, like in a backpack where you were packing him out? You know, try to be cool? Social media stuff? No.
No. I didn’t even film anything actually. I didn’t have anything. Yeah. I was just there running and gunning out there
Was too, too scarred about some of those GoPro videos he took last of the last out cut.
Some things you don’t need to relive, you know?
Yeah. What happened on those
Drawn back in a bull? Just drawn back on a bull like five times. Not getting a shot. Yeah.
Cows blowing you
Well too. Video tells the truth.
And GoPro audio. GoPro audio is something
Picks up everything picks up
Well on yourself and the
Animal. You’ve done it. Oh, you have a kill shot. Trust
Me. Trust me. I know. It sounds like you’re, and then
You’re, you know, you never know if you’ve forgot to hit stop recording and you’re taking a leak in the bushes and Logan gets the video and it’s pretty, pretty soon. It
Warn
Me it’s on the dark web. No time.
I’m sorry, but I had to go.
Yeah. Anyway. I thought I hit stop.
Oh, funny stuff.
That’s cool. Any
Other questions? Any other details we need to know from old Devon? It’s a
Good poke down there. It doesn’t matter where you go, but it’s
Fun when you bring some home. You got anything?
I think he told a good story right
There.
You’re still working on some hunts, right? Yeah. So am I We’re all, we’re all out and about. Yeah.
It’s the heat of it right now. Yeah.
We’ll talk about Janet. Give
Us two, two and a half weeks. We,
Yeah. Janet killed a desert sheep. That was kind of a highlight for the year. We just kind of letting that settle for a minute. Pretty, pretty awesome. It’s fun to go do those kind of hunts.
Well, yeah. It’s
It’s so fun. They’re
So rare. That’s the reason I wish I’d starling. ’cause like then you get service later and everybody’s already seen. You’re kind of feel like you missed out on the party.
Yeah. It’s so fun.
That was
Fun to see. But let’s, I think we should dial up your old man, Logan. Yeah. He’s always good for a good story. You can try
It. Get something out of him. Let’s
See if we can, yeah. Killed a deer. Logan Nevada. And that’s rare right now. Yeah. Killing a deer in Nevada’s. Kind of rare it
Was grind,
But maybe, oh, Paul, give us some words of encouragement. Give us some counseling.
Don’t say that word. He’ll put us on the clock. Bill us.
Hello.
Hey,
We need some counseling.
Dude. You’re not the only one.
What do you charge per hour?
I don’t charge nearly enough.
Okay.
Does it come with like a money back guarantee if you don’t fix my life?
Oh no. It just keeps you coming back for more. It’s kinda like hunting. You go out and you, you do okay, but you just got that gut feeling that you just gotta do more. Yes.
That’s what you guys are good at. Shrinks are good at just not, if we could just have a few more sessions, we’ll get you squared away. Right.
You gimme two more months. Right buddy. Two days a week, two more months.
We’ll have you thinking like a normal red-blooded American.
That’s, it depends on what time of year though, because sometimes during the year you just need to have some days off. So
Do you ever convert these Democrats over to Republicans or anything like that? Paul? There’s
See, see now that’s, that’s an area that I just rarely carry. I don’t, I don’t talk in
Very often. Don’t politic. You don’t talk politics,
Don’t talk politics, don’t talk religion. It’s kinda like, because dating, you know, it’s that sort
Of stuff. Yeah. If you got ’em to switch over, they’d probably quit coming and they’d be, their lives would be better.
And that’s probably true. That is probably absolutely true.
Less revenue,
Right? Yeah.
I really,
There’s a high chance of a one and done. If you get into the dem in the counseling session, that’s your only check you’re ever getting from them. That one session. You’re not, you’re not, they’re not coming back.
None of you reveal what you really think.
Yeah, I I’ve done some one and dones before.
Have you?
Yeah.
Yeah. Geez.
Well, all right. Truth, Hey, the truth sometimes just hurts. Right?
But, but the, the truth also is most people are more complicated than that. But it’s, yeah, that’s okay.
Do you ever tell ’em, tell ’em the truth.
It’s kinda
Like, do you ever cut to the chase and really give it to the
Well you got it. I mean, that’s,
Yeah. I’m honestly, I’m kind of famous for that.
Are you?
Yeah.
Well, that’s good. A little dose of reality.
Yeah. I I I just say it like it is and people get mad and they either come back or they don’t. But, so look,
Brought you, you brought this on yourself and counseling ain’t gonna help you.
Right. Right. Make some changes.
All right. All all right. Just teasing. Making light of you. You’re a good shrink. You’re a good shrink.
Well, we’ll see.
Hey, tell us a deer story. Like it’s rare to kill a deer in Nevada. Hey,
I heard, I heard he killed the first white, he killed the first white tail ever killed in Nevada. I, I saw a picture today. You know things. It’s
True. I I mean it was a mule deer, but it pretty much looked like a white tail.
It’s wild. Yeah.
Pretty cool. Heavy sucker. It’s,
Yeah, it’s a cool deer. It it is.
So,
So, I I, well it was a grind. I’m telling you what we, we camped a long ways from where we were hunting. Yeah. We were driving like 65 miles from camp to hunt.
What? No wonder. Yeah. Logan, you now Logan told us he had a blank check with a gas card. Now we know. Now we know why. He was just Yeah. Circling the unit twice a day.
Right. We did too. And we, we’d leave camp at like 5:00 AM and get back at 10:00 PM most days.
But he was staying in Utah.
It
Is.
What’s that? That you were camped in Utah. You there
Could have Did I?
There you go. You are back on Bluetooth.
I’m back. Yeah.
You were camped in Utah. In all fairness. You were driving willingly driving.
Yeah. It was wi it was a willing thing. Yeah. I’d do it. I’d, I’d do it different if I had to do over again, but Yep. I drove that far on purpose.
Daily.
Yeah. Daily.
Yeah.
Let me correct something here. He sat in the passenger seat and slept from about five to 6:00 AM and Logan drove and was on his second monster by the time we got to the actual deer spot.
Wow. Hey, you
Know when you get old, that’s what you have to do. Yeah,
Well you do. Yeah.
Logan, I mean, that’s what you do to spend priceless time with your dad.
Highly favored in the will.
Oh, I’ll know all broken down truck. That’s what you’re gonna get. See
We have that discussion too, because, you know, all my kids, they, they can’t say anything good about my, my new truck. They are always just dissing on it. So,
Which is what a Chevy, what is it? The, is it a 1500 ZR two?
Yeah. Yeah. It’s
With the six two gas or, and I can’t believe the gas mileage you’re getting. What, what are
What are you dissing on Logan?
I, I had never dissed on it before. I love it.
Oh, okay. He’s lying. He’s,
He wants the truck at his wheel all the while. That’s exactly right. All the while Logan had to get his fixed. Right. Recently I
Had to have a Ford. I had to have a Ford towed back to town. It’s okay. It happens sometimes. You have six plugs go out all at once and you just gotta get ’em fixed.
Oh, wasn’t it coiled? Was it coil? Yeah. Yeah.
So one of Logan’s buddies was with us and I, I mean, I just told him he’s in line for the truck because all my, my boys were like not in line for it. ’cause they can’t say anything good about it.
Yeah. There you go.
He’s giving away stuff to free to people who don’t even relate to us. If
You’re gonna, you’re gonna die tomorrow. Paul, you got some life in I know
He’s not even blood. I
Know
You, you’re fine. Fortune
Favors the patrol. Yeah,
I’m good.
Good. Healthy guy. Got a few a got a few ailments here and there. But you’re, you’re
Getting I got a battery. I got a battery that runs my heart, but it’s
Fine. Yeah, you were dealing with a pacemaker and 14 other things. Yeah, you’re fine. You’re fine.
If, if I go into AFib again, we’re just gonna hook the jumper cables to geez my, my chest and get me out back on track.
That’s what they do anyway. Geez.
Remotely. Right. Can’t they do it from Elon Musk system or something?
They could, they could with, they can put a pacemaker in that does that. But mine doesn’t.
Geez. So anyway, I’m conver I conversing you with quite regularly on starlink. That’s the one thing is you guys call at weird hours of the night when you’re driving. I mean, they’re driving for hours and they’re like wanting to talk. And I’ve started, they’re trying to stay away. They’re stay away. Started away. So I can’t, I can’t screen your call and feel good about it, you know? I know.
We were just checking on you. We wanted to see how you were doing.
Well, we were good. Okay. It’s true.
Just make it, sure.
So anyway, you drew this tag, regular draw. Yep. Odds were way against you. You get the tag. Kind of a tough year. But you guys scouted a lot. John scouted a lot.
Yep. We grinded it out. We ran a bunch of cameras. We didn’t really find a deer in scouting that we wanted to shoot. And so the first day we were driving along and well, we, we went and looked in this one area and anyway, we didn’t find anything. And so we drove down to this other area and spent the rest of the day there. And on the way home we’re going down this graded road and two big old bucks run across the road in front of us.
I think you, and I think you called me within a minute of that.
I I think you’re right. Huh? And it was in, I mean, it was a flat,
But you, but you guys don’t take very good video. That was just gonna say, I don’t know, can’t see anything. Logan, will you, did you take that
Video with my youthful eyes? I could see everything I needed to.
Well, you had your mind playing it back while you’re watching video. You actually had seen it. I,
I’ve seen it. It’s like, okay, use your imagination. Here’s some video. And it was like, it some
Kickers in every direction.
I’ve seen a tree and I think I see a deer. I’m not sure.
Anyway, but regardless, that’s where you’re gonna start focusing time. Right.
So all of a sudden we’re like, okay, now we have a spot to hunt, but we don’t know how to hunt it. And ’cause there’s, there’s no vantage points. You can’t climb on a hill and glass when you’ve got cedar trees and sagebrush everywhere. So there was about 50 yards of visible landscape on the side of each road. And so the next morning we went there and we saw some more deer. Couple of nice bucks. Not the same deer we saw the night before. And we figured out there was a little loop that we could take, we could drive down the graded road, go up this two tracker and, and then go back and forth. And we did that like 12 times a day. I
Sounds, sounds like a tactic. Wyatt coined to slow rolling the pines. This,
What did I say?
Definitely slow rolling the pines. Yeah.
We were definitely slow rolling the
Pines. Minville style. Minville style.
The thing of it is, is Logan, he, his slow and my slow are very different. Yeah,
Well you’ve got it perfected. No, these young kids don’t know how to
Do it. He’s gotten, he’s gotten weak and scared in his old age. And I know how to get places.
Well it’s probably just cussing you because that zero two can’t, doesn’t have a cruise control that sets at two and a half miles an hour. Yeah.
You’ve got, it’s 25 i or 25 plus.
That one will go down to 15.
It will,
Yeah. 15 wouldn’t let go any lower.
Alright.
So the hail descent control doesn’t work on flat ground.
Geez.
So
So you’re just, anyway,
So we keep doing that and we see some deer and we can’t get a shot and we see some deer and we can’t get a shot. ’cause it’s like you see ’em and they take one step and they disappear for days. But
If you walk in, they’re on foot, they’re blowing everywhere and you’re gonna,
And yeah. You can’t, it’s like walking on gravel.
Yep. You
Did track the two big ones to
Their water. I did. Yeah. The next day. Yeah, the next day after the two big ones I did, I got on the tracks and I tracked them right to their water, which is, we didn’t know about that. And wow. If we kept hunting it and we’d see, we had this one group of deer, there were four bucks and one of them, it looks like a white tail also. It’s a giant three point and it is a cool deer. It’s got like eight or nine inch eye guards and just what? And low, you know. And so anyway, we didn’t, we just kept passing, passing and passing. Finally, I don’t know what day it was. We saw two, two bucks and both of them were shooters. And so they came out and stood at 130 yards. And I missed,
Wow.
That’s it just about killed me. And
That’s an open sight state. So I’m, I am not even Yep. That’s very doable for even
Anybody. I just flat missed and we come to find out that my Williams peep had accidentally got turned a little and Yep. And it was off. So I recited, got things back on track and anyway, we went back to hunting.
Okay.
And so we, we making the loops around there and we come across these deer. This was Saturday morning and this was a buck we’d never seen before. And so Lane and Logan are trying to look through the, the binoculars at this deer. And I got out and I think they would’ve tied me in the truck if they could have, but they couldn’t. So,
And I’ll let you know. And he’s telling us that to judge for him when he gets out, we’re in charge of judging because you’ve, well, when Paul gets out, stuff’s dying. Yeah.
When he in charge,
When he in charge of making the shooter, don’t shoot call.
So when his feet, feet all gotta hit the ground. I think there’s five
Legit long times on that. We had, we had the discussion about trigger words that you don’t say that will get the trigger pulled as soon as the Well, because the day before, like split beams, the day before when he’d missed, I was with him when that deer came out. And I’m looking and I’m like, ah. I’m like, I think he’s a good buck and he’s got cheaters. Boom. And I’m like, Kate, cheaters is a trigger word. We don’t say cheaters until we’re sure of what it is.
And it
Turns out, come to find out five points is also a trigger word. And we found that out that if he a that’s a good little five pointer right there.
He’s a cool, he got a cool extra.
He could pick it up from there.
What about eight inch eye guards? I heard that a minute ago. That,
That, that’s a trigger. We started driving past that three point and he’s getting outta the truck and I just took off
Eight inch eye guard.
It was
A sweet buck. It was, yeah. It was awesome. It’s a big three point. Is it with
Nine inch eye
Guards? I don’t know about that, but it’s big.
At least big eye guard. Six or seven.
Yeah.
Like, have you seen that bucket in my office? That three by four in my office.
I’ll have to come look after. Very
Similar.
I’ve got one of my office with about five Devon jurors About five, five and a half. Five. Yeah. They’re, they look, they look
Three points this year are trophy bucks on any year, on normal year. Like the drought creates big all fours, three down to three bucks point. Great eye guards. Yeah, it does. Right. Yeah. And real potential. Maybe a couple of nubs where the four used come out or what? Yeah, something.
Pearl
Pearling gets this tough.
It does. This is a tough year. So anyway. Right, right.
So I’m out, I’m outta the truck and I hear a five inch. He’s got a, he’s got an inline five or something. I don’t know what he said. He’s got five points on one side. Well that was it. That’s all I needed to hear. Boom. And I threw up the gun free hand and dumped him right there. And he dropped and it was over that fast.
That’s this one. That’s the buck. Okay. I didn’t know where there already, that’s this buck.
We were there faster than any of us expected to be. This was like what? 80 yard shot? 50 off. Oh, 60
50. Probably 50, 60.
Top pin. Well there it was. Yeah. So Logan, you were there. Was one of your other boys there, Paul? No. Just you that
Day? Nope, just Logan. Logan. One of my buddies. Lane and one of Logan’s buddies McCoy.
Gotcha. Pretty
Awesome.
So
Pretty fun. Yep.
It was awesome. We, we had a good time.
It was worth it. You’d do it again?
Of course.
Oh, oh, you absolutely do it again. Shoot
Bucks. That’s awesome, man. That’s awesome. Yep. Love it. All right. Now how’s the elk hunt look overall, what do you think about Well, elk hunting
The elk, the elk hunt is tough. I have one bull that I’m hunting and we haven’t been able to turn him up. Okay. When I’ve been there, we sent Logan’s buddy McCoy out there one day just to check and he drove right on him a hundred yards and took an hour’s worth of video of him. Jesus.
And anyway, we’re, we’re hunting in an area where I think there are 25 total elk. Yeah. And probably a, I don’t even know, maybe a 10, 10 mile radius. Who knows? Yeah. Yeah. So the elker and they, and the rut is poor. The rut is very, very slow. And with the drought, I’m a little worried the cows aren’t gonna cycle or they’re not gonna si cycle normally. Yeah. And so we’re, we’re just, I don’t know, tomorrow we’re gonna hit it again and we’ve got till we got like eight days left, so we’re gonna go, go to town, try to turn that bull up every day and get him killed.
Yeah. Geez. So you’ve had a month, month and a half. It must be nice, I mean, you said,
Well, you know,
You’ve been out for how long you’ve worked, how much?
Well, I worked today,
Probably some problems that need fix in the world.
The last day that I worked September, it’s September, what? 22nd today.
Second you worked today? The last day I worked before today was September 9th.
Geez.
I don’t have to be back to work till October 6th. But I will get back before then.
Jeez. Sign me off.
So
There’s gonna be some dims that need your help. Can you
Imagine going to talk Jason like, Hey, I got problems. You know
It buddy.
Yeah, you do. Yes you do.
Yes you do. Son.
Starts with your politics,
So Yeah. We’ll, we’ll get, we’ll get things going.
Alright. Wow. I love it. I love it. You
Guys are just fun. Hopefully we’ll have you on here in a few days or a week.
Fun to visit with Logan.
Make sure you get the bigger game bags in this next time. Oh yeah, for the Elk. Don’t
Worry. I’ll take care of it. What I like.
Wait, that was Devin. Nevermind.
What I like is just that you guys are out to having a good time, you know what I mean? Like what hunting’s really supposed to be about, not about score and every, everything else. And of course drought, drought, years are hard, but man, and you and you guys have killed your fresh share of giants anyway, so whatever. Nobody cares. Right, right.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I’m just teasing you. Yeah. I’m just teasing you.
I, I care a little. I
Know we do. So
It’s
Okay. Pretty darn fun to bring in Nevada buck back, back to Utah where he belongs, right, Wyatt?
That’s right, that’s right.
It’s kind of fun. Devin brought a New Mexico bowl back to Utah where he belongs to. Right?
I had a boy, Devin. Yes,
Sir.
Isn’t that awesome? Yeah. Might even bring a Wyoming bull back to Utah where he put him, where he belongs.
Cowboy state Bull might come
On. Might as well, right?
Don’t, no, they all belong in Utah.
That’s right.
All right. Hey,
Just to give you a heads up so you can clear your schedule. I’m applying for any legal weapon halina here in February, so,
Okay, you got it. He’s
Looking for a dual a
He’s saying that you owe him some time. Look,
It’s gonna miss the expo ’cause he is gonna be hunting javelinas. Well,
I got stuff to do and I’m thinking you’re needing, you’re needing Logan’s gas card. That’s what I’m thinking. Yeah,
I think so. I mean, turnabout’s fair play. You go to Arizona, Logan, give him a gas card.
He could sit in the passenger seat. He all that’s fair Does
Fair is fair.
Well, anyway, pretty fun. I just wanna see you eat that thing. That’s what I want to see.
Well, that heavy hopefully. Yeah, you do have to eat ’em, Paula, you can’t, like, they’re game animal. They make good bacon or
I know. I know. We’ll figure
It out. They make, they make you eat the lions. Okay. People have lost hunting privileges over wanting waste wildlife on a lion. Oh.
We’ll put enough onions and garlic in it that we can make it taste good.
Yeah. I don’t think you can make it taste good. I don’t, I don’t
Think so
Either. I don’t, I don’t think it makes good summer sausage jerky or any of it.
I, I heard that you can make antelope taste good, although I’ve never figured that one
Out. Yeah. I don’t ask Devin. Oh,
Antelope or the ease. Devon, that’s cake. And compared to I’ll
The secret, I’ll share the secret to the, with the world. Kill him fast. Put him on ice within a half hour.
That’s what we did. And we’re gonna find out.
You’re gonna find
Out Sean’s, we killed him fast. Put him on ice.
Haven’t had him yet. Huh?
Janet. Well,
I
Remember you text us,
We had to talk to Jan about Antelope meat, what she really thinks. Same with Becky. I mean, jeez, first, her first animal
She ever
Shot was antelope.
Really?
I just figured, all right, she’s gonna stick this hunting. Thing’s gonna stick. I might as well do antelope. But you draw it quickest. Yes. And it would, yeah, she’ll tell the story. Same story.
I mean, you can’t hardly get Janet to eat elk. She’s a beef girl, you know what I mean? Straight up ranch girl. And anyway, pretty fun. Yeah, moose is good. She’ll eat moose and she’ll eat elk. She ain’t much for deer. Yeah. All right, Kate. Well, Paul, are you good it back? How’s that? I’m good. Keep that starlink going. Hey, tell me when do you go from the $50 plan to $150 plan? Like how much talking can do? Or do you download too much or
What’s the deal? It’s only movies that’s gonna hurt you about it.
We’ve been, we’ve, so my, I think my allotted plans started September 2nd and I have a 50 gig plan, and I think it was about September 9th when we hit, no, wait, not September 9th. It would’ve been like the 14th where we hit the 50 gig plan. How do you know
When hit it? Did they email you and say you were out
12 days?
I don’t know. You can, you
Can four people day. I didn’t
Let it get that far. So you can go on and choose overage and so now I’m on a dollar a gig.
Geez, that
Sounds for every gigabyte over 50. Really? Yeah. But what kills you is he streams football games at the trailer at night. Okay.
That’ll get you I was gonna say,
And without it. Without it, you’re probably lucky to use 10 a day between two, two of you
10. We, we were averaging about five.
Could you get in your account and see how much you’ve used? Yeah,
I think I used, I’m gonna
Go, I’m looking right now.
How many gigs do you use in a day, Wyatt? Okay.
I’ve used
Two in my last billing period. Two. Two,
That’s it. Gigs outta the 50. Yeah.
Huh? I’m on the 10 plan and
It’s, was that a full 30 days? What? Okay,
Let’s see.
I’m looking at mine.
Yeah. What?
In 20 days? How do you know mine? So, since September 2nd, I have used 97 gigabytes since, since September 2nd.
Geez.
Yeah. I, I use a total of three gigs
In my whole building period. How do I go here? Where do I go? Here,
Go to your account guy. Account here. Subscription. Oh, no. Oh,
I gotta keep, I gotta keep him logged in
Doing something. There you go. So I click, mine has a
Subscription right here.
Yep. Subscriptions.
You there, Paul?
Daddy usage?
He’s gone.
18. 18 since See it Paul, September 2nd. That’s not bad. I’m doing good.
Hang up on him.
Did we hang up on him? Yeah,
We probably did. He,
Well, Logan, you get him back when that bull’s on the ground. Yep. We’ll
Have a story. Get a live start.
We better, we better just say goodbye so we’re not rude.
Hello. Logan
Accidentally hung up on you. He’s running the
Keyboard accidentally on purpose. I
Know he, he’s tired of hearing my voice.
I’ve used 18 since September 2nd.
Yeah. So I,
But that’s like
FaceTiming my kid, kid. You’re not watching, you’re not watching football games and stuff. No. Why? You’re not watching any.
That’s a waste of
Moneys. You don’t check your, your fantasy league and all that.
That’s a straight face waste of money. I’m just,
I
FaceTiming my kids.
I’ll be watching the Ryder Cup this weekend.
All right. There
You go.
Alright. All right, Paul, why don’t you hit us up when you got something on the ground again. You
There Logan? You hung up on him again. Oh, yep. Oh,
There he is. I hit the wrong button. Yeah, I’ll let you know.
Sounds good. Call. Talk to you later. Good luck,
Kate. Talk to you later. See
You. Bye. Alright. Pretty fun stuff. Always a good time. Yeah,
Good.
Always a good time.
What? Geez.
I did have an epic pack out for.
It looks, it looks big. What is
It? It’s not that big, but dude,
Show me. Throw that picture up. Throw that. Use that picture, Kevin,
For Do we have your permission?
Podcast to be
Podcast announcement?
What do you mean?
When, when we know this podcast is live. When Logan pushes go on this. Use
That as
A picture. Use that on the Instagram post.
Yeah.
Yeah. There’s better pictures, but,
Well, I know just to that
Do we have rights to your image? It’s gonna cost us an army. How much it’s
Gonna cost us.
Didn’t even sign on the
Ax. You signed something here that gives us,
You’re just saying that because I didn’t let you use the video from the last podcast.
What video was
It that he getting attacked by the wasp it yard.
That was some funny stuff. Logan didn’t even ask
Because you didn’t show Jana the video yet.
I haven’t, I
Well, it’s not, she says she’s got to see it and I’m like, yeah,
You do have
To see it. I was in a desperate could there situation. I was running,
Put
The shirt off the doorbell camera. I mean, come on
Front back throwing. Yeah.
Alright, so anyway, overall Elk. Elk hunt’s been tough. Deer hunt’s been a little bit tough depending on where you’re at. What’s next
For you? You, Jason Antelope.
I don’t know. Antelope. Maybe
Deer, maybe
An, I don’t know. Yeah, I’ve got a deer too. I mean, but I, geez.
Couple of kids don’t want, they don’t, they
Kids, women and children. Got stuff going everywhere.
Well, what’s next? Deer or antelope?
I don’t
Know. Next week let’s have some report. Okay. Tell
Us about, I don’t know,
Bring back some death and destruction.
Probably back. I could go do antelope anytime. I’m just waiting for Sean. That’s what really matters.
Letting
Him figure out his work schedule window. Yep. Figuring out his
Work. Letting let him drive up while you’d sleep in the passenger side.
That’s what kids, before, you know what’s funny? You know what’s funny? I’m the opposite. Yeah. I ain’t letting him drive.
I was gonna say, can’t even
Imagine you. I never even, it doesn’t happen. Yeah. I will drive. I will drive and, and be hitting the rumble strips tired and I will not let them kids drive. And the minute he gets in there, it’s not like I do it, although it’s just fine. He does a great job. He knows what he’s doing. I just, I’m just at that guy. Is it, do, do I strike you as that guy?
Absolutely.
Yes. Bronson, would you let Ty Drive?
Yeah, but I don’t know. We don’t
Do you Lett drive? Like if you go somewhere
When we go to dinner.
Really? Yeah. She
Drives you to dinner? Because
When I go to dinner, my, my mentally I, we don’t have to hit the stoplight just Right. We don’t have to pass the cars just right. Like
There’s no point in drafting.
No, but when we’re going to do something, when it’s like a, like I need to drive
When you’re in charge of what you’re going to do.
Yeah. Like if we need to make it to St. George on time before the store closes, like, I need to drive and, and, and she’s great. She’s great. There’s nothing wrong with her driving. But then when we go to dinner, I like to be driven. It’s
So weird around town. Becky drives all the time and most of the time,
Yeah.
When she’ll also get carsick. We travel, like if I go to Monticello or somewhere and I’m driving down the San Rafael Windy and I leave the cruise at 84 degree or 84 miles an hour, she gets car sick. Yeah. Well, there’s a lot of times she drives
When we’re unload the boat. Like I unload the boat, I go around, get in the boat, like, you know what I mean? Go back and she’ll park the truck. But like, you know, I’m just want things way out on ’em, you know? Anyway. All right. All right. Let’s call it a date. We we’re, we got a lot going on. We’re killing animals. We’ve already, I bet, killed some other
Animals. I bet since seven days we got five or five or six animals to report on. It’ll be fun.
Huh? It’s a good time. Next six
To seven
Days. It need be a little less picky.
I feel like I don’t
Pressure on what’s going on in your household. Well, you’ve got a tag
Picky deer tag and elk tag. I’ve got a deer tag
I need to get out and hunt. I’ve got for on my own personal tags, but we’ve been hunting nonstop.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Anyway, just it feels like, yeah, this next two weeks, we’ll just call it maybe seven days was pushing up. In two weeks, there’ll be a lot of, lot of storytelling. Yep. Pretty. Logan, you’ve even got a tag opening up this week if you really want go after it. Yeah.
Yeah. I don’t have time to hunt for myself, but yeah, I do have a tag.
Well, if you go hunt for yourself, you have to use your own gas card on that hunt versus go hunt with your dad.
These are all things that come, like, come into your mind. It’s true.
But if, if I wait, if I wait until he’s killed and then he comes and hunts with me, now
He, he’s got the same
Time. But if, but if you have his gas card, you just fill up a Fiverr every time you use his gas card. Well,
There’s always
Overages. And then you stash the Yeah, the gas can, heres,
He calls them overage.
You
Rounding up. If it’s a 36 gallon tank, you round up to
40. I see. Save the four. Okay.
Wow.
Wow. Geez, man. Are you honest in all your dealings?
I am. Yes.
All right. We’re calling it a day everybody. Good luck out there. We’d love to hear from you again. You can submit your photos and stories. Submit at, excuse me, photos. [email protected]. I wanna say submit, but yeah, it’s not, not a thing.
And if you hunted with one of the outfitters we recommended to you or helped you with that up, please hit us up.
Hear from you. I’ve also got a few late stragglers that want a couple of hunts. Devin, you’re helping a few guys. Yeah. Before you take off again, of course we’re all dealing with that. If you need optics, give us a holler as well. We can definitely help you. We’re checking in selling optics like it’s our freaking job out in the field and working with the gals here at the office. We appreciate them. Of course. Do a great job here while we’re out in the field. So anyway, off we go. Good luck, everybody.
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